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Welcome to Round Trip Death everybody and to this special bonus edition where we're going to pick up where we left off on our interview with Yvonne Sneedon.
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And you know what? Let's jump right in.
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From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes.
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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped and I could see people screaming and crying but I didn't realise that was actually my physical body because I was somewhere else.
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The only thing that I could feel if you could imagine absolute love and peace there wasn't anything else to be felt.
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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.
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I'm back home again.
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Incredibly safe and felt at home.
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Okay, I am ready.
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I kind of set you up there.
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Just as a little bit of review in the earlier episode we were talking about Yvonne's second near-death experience which was this amazing, amazing experience.
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And for our listeners if you haven't heard it yet I recommend you go listen to that first and then come back to this even though it sounds backwards.
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But we're now going to talk about your first near-death experience.
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And these bonus episodes are where we talk about things that are a little bit sometimes out of the ordinary not the classic NDE's but can be other types of related experiences.
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And this is going to be a whole ton of fun.
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So Yvonne, how far before your second NDE was your first one?
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You mentioned it was kind of brought on by similar medical situations.
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Yes, yes, Eric.
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And thank you again for having me for the second NDE.
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So the first one happened about two to three weeks prior to my second one.
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My first one was because of arrhythmia and I had taken that medication and as I said, accidental overdose.
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So the first time was a similar situation.
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I was afraid of having the severe arrhythmia episode that you feel like you're going to die.
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And so I wanted a peaceful night.
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So I took the medication which later on anesthesiast Eduke told me that this medication created a hard stop.
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For the second one, for the first one, she said it was probably sleep apnea and that I had probably stopped breathing for four minutes.
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And then I was gone and that's what was explanation when I went to the doctor.
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Wow, that's a long time.
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So this isn't a medication that you take preemptively.
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This is something you only take when you're having a bad episode.
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Well, you know that now.
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Yeah, I thought that it was going to just regulate, but actually it was just for when I had an episode.
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So anyway, so that night again, I take them for the first time actually, I take the medication.
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And then I remember putting my head on the bed and then suddenly I see my body lifeless on the bed.
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And at the end of the feet of my bed, at the end of the bed, I see two beings of light, two male energy, male beings of light.
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They both were about 12, 13 feet high.
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They had also they had long white robes.
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They had blondish, whiteish hair, short, a little bit wavy.
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And they looked identical as if they were cloned from each other.
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They looked totally identical.
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And they were both there with a long rope, tall, kind of thin, thin, tall and very handsome, very beautiful beings.
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And they emanated a lot of majesty and power and strength.
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And they were just looking at me there.
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And then when I noticed them, telepathically, they told me,
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Yvonne, it's time to go.
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Leaving, Earth is over.
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It's time to go.
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Did you wonder go where?
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No, because, you know, once you're outside of your body,
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everything seems normal.
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You have you are questioning anything.
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It's like everything that's happening is completely normal.
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And so for me, I was like, OK, I was like, yeah, OK.
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And these two beings, you didn't recognize them?
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You didn't get any feeling as to who they were?
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They were more of to me looking very divine, like like celestial soldier or something or escort.
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You know, there were guides, escort beings.
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They felt very powerful.
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I didn't feel like, oh, that overwhelming compassion or empathy.
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But it was more like power, divinely powerful, like soldiers, like, you know,
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more divine, the loving ones.
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And so it didn't make sense that I wanted to go with them
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because my daughter was sleeping in the next room.
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But I have to say, and I have hurt my daughter when I was sharing that experience.
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So I have to clarify that when we are outside of our body and moving to the next life,
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it's almost like everything that happened to you on earth, you have an amnesia, your amnesia.
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Suddenly, you don't remember at all what just happened.
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You are experiencing the moment, the present moment.
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And all your attention is on the present moment, 100%.
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So you're not even thinking of what just you left.
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You don't, it's like a curtain closed, you know, because I have to say that I knew I was going to die.
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And I felt my energy had left and I felt it was just like, you know, when you were diving for 10 years
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and then suddenly you see, you think, oh, I don't want to dive anymore.
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I want to ski.
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And then you just left that that's how I felt. I'm not interested in earth anymore.
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That's I'm done. I'm moving on.
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I didn't even have suicidal thoughts.
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But now that they were telling me it's time to go, I didn't remember anything.
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It was just like in the present moment, them telling me that.
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And for me, feeling that that's the thing I have to do.
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That's really what I need to do.
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It makes total sense.
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That's how my mind was.
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And they said telepathically, but it's time to go.
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And the interesting thing, Eric, is that behind them, as they were telling me that telepathically,
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I could see behind them there was a spaceship.
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Wait a minute.
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OK.
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I've talked to people that have gone through through portals and seen the light and, you know,
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all that kind of stuff.
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You're talking about a spaceship.
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I can't wait to hear this.
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Keep going.
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Yeah, it took me actually to tell you the truth, frankly, in 2008.
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So when I said when I shared my first my NDE the first time, it was 2012 to IONs.
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But it took me until last year to there to share this NDE.
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And the because of that element.
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I didn't there, I thought people will think I'm totally insane.
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Yeah.
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They will never believe me.
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So but last year was interviewed and it slipped out of my mouth and I said, OK, too late.
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I'm uncovered.
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Yeah, it's out of the bag.
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OK, this is this is fascinating.
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And just to remind people, this is a safe non-judgmental space here.
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OK.
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Other people can make whatever other conclusions they want to.
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I really and all serious want to hear about this.
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OK.
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And it may be that we can also interpret this in kind of different ways too.
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So you see this spaceship.
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Keep going.
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Sorry for interrupting, by the way.
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Couldn't help myself.
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I love that you're interacting.
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Actually, no, please do.
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And for the listener, I work in IET, which is a very grounded industry.
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It's nothing woo-woo.
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I sound minded.
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I'm leading engineers and operation managers.
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So I have a very, a very grounded job.
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So it's not that I'm, you know, that one person that is imagining things.
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Well, and if I thought that you had any kind of mental health issues or something like
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that, this interview wouldn't be out there.
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Oh, I appreciate that.
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Thank you.
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That's my nice way of saying, I don't think you're crazy.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
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So yeah, so there they are telling me it's time to go.
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And behind them is that spaceship.
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So the spaceship was, imagine a, it was, imagine an oval plate, an oval plate.
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It was pearly white, very beautiful.
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And it was open.
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Imagine, you know, a seashell open.
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So the top was open.
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Oh, it wasn't like a flying saucer that we think of.
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It was like a flying saucer, but not, it was, you know, as if I'm French and I have a heart,
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I'm explaining that right now, but imagine that you put two plates, one on top of it.
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Yeah, one upside down.
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Yeah.
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And then, okay.
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So it was like a big flying saucer.
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Like a big flying saucer, absolutely.
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And it was white, pearly white.
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And it was, the top was open, facing me.
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And so they said, Yvonne, it's time to go.
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And I said, yes, like, yeah, that's what I'm doing.
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I'm used to what's happening.
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It's totally making sense.
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And so I, they, I went in between both of them.
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And we proceeded towards that spaceship.
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And as we arrived in front of the spaceship, we entered the spaceship.
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And there were three seats, one of the being or celestial escort or celestial, you know,
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soldier, I don't know how to call him.
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They never introduced themselves.
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So set onto my left, I sat in the middle.
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There were three seats.
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I sat in the middle.
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And then to my right was the other one.
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So we sat there.
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The top of the saucer closed.
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The being, the celestial being to my right, angelic being or I don't know, they never
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told me who they were to the right with his left hand pulled a handle.
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And when he did that, we crossed, we left, we left, we crossed the entire universe in
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one second.
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When I say one second, it's literally one second.
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And I can, we, and I can still feel what it feels to be in space.
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It's a very different feeling than being in this atmosphere.
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We really, we really, it was like one second, we just crossed the entire, just like in the
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science fiction movie, when you see that, you know, they go into.
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I like the hyperdrive and all the stars go shooting by.
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Yeah.
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And you know, I wasn't expecting anything like that because I was raised in my faith.
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Anything that was spaceship or extra everything like that was from the devil.
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So to me, that experience, I cannot have imagined that in my mind or anything because it was
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not in my, in my, in my heart drive.
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In my brain, hard drive.
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And so, so we arrived, we, we crossed the entire universe and I see us kind of land.
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I don't know what happened between the moment we land, but I'm instantly inside an extremely
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illuminated space.
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It's indoor and there are about 20 to 25 beings of light waiting for me.
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They were so happy to see me arriving.
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They were excited.
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They said, she's here, she's here, she's here.
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And they said, she is back.
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Did you recognize any of them?
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Did you know who they were?
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I totally knew them, but I didn't recognize them.
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If that makes sense.
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I knew them.
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I knew them.
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I knew that they were my family.
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I knew that they were my creed, my tribe.
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I was home.
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They were part of my tribe.
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I knew them.
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I knew I was familiar with them, but I didn't say, oh, it was John or Mark or Angie or, you
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know, or Miriam.
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So I did, but I knew I was home.
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I knew I was home.
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I knew it's very unique because I, it, it felt like I was waking up from a nightmare
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and the nightmare was my life, was earth and I was like, I was, oh my God, I am so excited.
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I'm so relieved that what I was experiencing on earth is not really me.
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I was so relieved.
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It's just like anyone who has a nightmare and wake up and say, oh my God, I'm so happy
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that it wasn't a reality.
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That's exactly how I felt.
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I felt that earth was many planets away, very far in the cosmos.
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And I was there for something that I knew I had to do, but that was not my home.
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That here was home with all my older beings out there.
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That's what I knew.
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So those beings were there waiting for me and I'm excited.
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I feel like I'm finally home.
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And they are so excited that they, just like when you have a birthday party and everybody's
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around you and celebrating you all and you're the, the, the point of joy.
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And that's how I felt.
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I was a point of their joy.
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They were so happy to see me.
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They were so happy.
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And I was happy to see them too.
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And we were hugging and embracing and, and, and then we sat on, everything in that place
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was made of light.
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The ground was light.
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There were some type of furniture, but they were made of solid light and not just a random
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light.
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Everything was divine light.
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Was God's light.
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Everything was God's light was divine.
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That was, it was everywhere.
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Divinity was everywhere.
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We didn't have to even question it.
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It was everywhere.
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And those beings that were waiting for me were also made, were made of light inside.
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There was no bone.
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No, no.
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Everything was also, they were made of light.
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So they were emanating light all around them as well.
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So we all set together.
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For some reason they didn't have white robes, those beings.
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They were just normal outfit, but everything was made of light.
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And we sat on a subtype of sofa.
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Everything is light, solid light.
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They are hugging me.
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They're asking me to catch up what I'm doing on earth and they are all wanting to serve
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me.
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Do you want this?
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And I have to say that because that's how we treat one another in the world of light.
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The other person is the most important person, not us.
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It's the opposite of earth.
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On earth it's all about me, me, me and the society's pushing it so that we forget about
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everyone around us, but we just want to be so, so satisfied.
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And the society is just brainwashing everyone and there's anxiety if we are not recognized.
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But in the other world, the total happiness is to make the other one happy and to serve
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the other one.
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And everyone is like that with each other.
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So they were trying to give me, how are you?
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Are you making me comfortable?
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And we were catching up.
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I was home.
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I was like, I was finally home.
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I was so happy.
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I said, oh my God, I'm so happy I'm home.
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And but after a while like that, another being, a female being came towards me, took me outside
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of the group.
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I think she was more senior, more advanced.
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And she actually put her two hands on my cheek on both sides of my cheeks.
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And then she said, your experience on planet earth is such a difficult one.
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I said, yeah, it's horrible.
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I said, yeah, it's difficult.
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It's so difficult.
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I said, it's really hard.
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And she said, but you have to go back.
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You cannot stay.
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You have to go back.
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You'll come back later.
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You have to go back.
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And you have to go back now because that container, which is your body there, if you don't go
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back now, it's not going to be able to welcome you back in.
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So you have to go back.
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And when she said that those two beings, those two divine escort soldiers were back to drive
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me to drive me back there, I have to tell you something that I forgot to tell you is
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that those two beings when we came from earth, when we crossed the entire universe to go
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to that home that I'm talking about, I could feel each time I was with them, whether to
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go there and come back, I could feel that those two angels or angelic beings or soldiers
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were so powerful that nothing, nothing, nothing in the entire cosmos could ever happen to
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me.
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I was ultra protected.
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They were so divine, powerfully made that if there were other rays, other planets, other,
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I don't know, well, nothing could ever touch me.
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They were that powerful.
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And so when she said, you have to go back, those two beings were there.
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And the same way we came, I went in between them, we entered the spaceship, it closed,
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and the same way in one second, we crossed and we came back to earth.
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Again, I felt my spirit coming back inside my body.
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All right.
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Here come a hundred questions.
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I'm sorry, were you finished?
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I just want to say that that's when I knew that I existed before in the faith I had before
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my Andy, we were created here.
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We never existed before.
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But the fact that they said you're back, you're back, made me think, okay, so I existed before
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I was on earth.
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And that's something I had to say.
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That totally makes sense.
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Okay, you've had time to think about all of this.
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So I want your opinion on some of it, if you have figured it out.
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And my first one is, why do you think you needed to be in some kind of spaceship?
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Couldn't they have just transported you without?
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That's a big question because I've been talking about that with my sister.
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As I said, my sister in Brussels also had a near-death experience because she had something,
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a tumor.
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And for her, she was welcomed by one being of life.
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But he took her through the cosmos without any spaceship.
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And she saw all the stars and everything.
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And my two sisters had also, can you believe that we are three?
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My two sisters had near-death experiences.
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It's unheard of.
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And when I shared mine to my older sister, she said, oh, I had also two.
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She said, when she gave birth to her twins, and then when she choked because she had a
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bone of some meat blocked on her throat, I mean, it's horrible.
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So the three of us, the one me, me, the one in the middle, is the one who was taken through
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space without spaceship.
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I don't know why that element was added for me.
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I have absolutely, I've always thought of that.
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Maybe because I'm not very daring.
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I'm not somebody who is going to do all kind of daring things.
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And I just like my comfort and things well done.
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I'm very daring emotionally, but not physically.
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So I don't know.
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Maybe they wanted to make me feel comfortable.
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I have no idea, Eric.
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I'm not going to lie or create a story.
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No, that's okay.
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I just wonder what you thought of it.
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The two beings.
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And I like your term guides.
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Would you also call them angels?
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When I had my NDE, I called them angels because they had the white robe, they had their blondish
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hair.
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So I called them, but I didn't have any wings.
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But I call them, now I say angelic beings, beings of light, light beings, angelic beings,
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some people say guides.
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Well and who's to say angels have to have wings?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Isn't that kind of a man-made thing anyway?
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Not necessarily because when I was with Jesus, that's why I called them angels because the
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children angels and the women angels, they had wings.
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The beings I met in this near that experience, they were human beings like us, but we made
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of light and those two beings had no wings.
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So I think in that world, you have all kinds of beings.
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You have angels, you have humans, you have all kinds of beings.
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We would be surprised when we go there of all the different people we meet.
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Maybe they needed the spaceship because they didn't have wings.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't think they could just fly like that probably.
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Back to the NDE that we talked about previously.
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You just mentioned the children angels.
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Let's get back to that for one second.
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I know I'm jumping all over the place, but I found that fascinating and beautiful.
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Why do you think they were children versus most angels that I hear about or people in
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the spirit realm appear as adults, young adults?
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Well, you can have, and I have been at ION since 2013 and I've heard other stories.
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But necessarily, you have world, there's an angelic population in heaven or in the light.
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We are human beings, but there's the angelic world.
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And when I say go back to your mothers, it was not their mothers necessarily probably
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a flesh like we have, probably the ones raising them were called mothers.
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Raising them spiritually?
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Yes.
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Not the physical body, okay.
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But they probably were probably going to go to the state stature of adult.
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Listen, when my sister had her NDE, she went back and she saw not angels, but she saw children
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spirits in a spiritual school.
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And when they saw her, they ran into her and said, yeah, she's back, she's back like me.
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But then when she went to them, she realized that she was their teacher in the spirit world
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and she had accepted to come as a human to learn life so that she could teach them more.
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Because there is a whole population in the light, beings of light, spirits that never
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came to earth or other dimension.
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They stayed in the world of light and we can bring back to those beings what we have learned
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because when you're constantly in a world of light with God and you have love and joy,
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you don't know what betrayal means or what hunger means or distress.
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All those aspects are the opposite of God's love.
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And when we learn all that, we learn even more the dimension of unconditional love.
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One thing I want to say about that, Eric, my first IAEns ever was in Scottsdale, Arizona
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in 2013.
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I had never done any interviews ever.
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I was unknown.
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It was my very first time going to something to meet other people like me.
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And I met a woman.
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We went to dinner with other people who were there at the dinner and she was from Europe
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and she was from the Netherlands so we connected immediately and from Belgium, the Netherlands,
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we are neighbouring countries.
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And she looked at me and she said, and I had never met her.
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Nobody knew my story.
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She said, I've met you in the Crystal City.
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You were with children angels.
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So you see what I mean?
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Yeah, you just blew my mind.
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That's cool.
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That's really cool.
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I think we stayed friends until now because she saw me there and I don't have that memory
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because remember, I was walking towards the city of light, but then suddenly I was in
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the Black Velvete space talking to Jesus.
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So I must have gone there but my memory was blocked.
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Like many experiences, we have a lot of memories blocked.
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And some of those things come out later.
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You've had quite a few years to process them.
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Okay, all right, here's the next question in the spirit realm.
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Flue in a flying saucer.
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And I don't want that to sound silly.
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I'm not making fun or anything, but has that affected what you think about with things
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going on here?
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The reality or non-reality of UFOs here and ETs here and people that are abducted here
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and things like that.
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What is your belief in those things?
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Did your spiritual experience affect your beliefs at all?
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Yes, actually after that experience, I started to Google Spaceship Alien because I wanted
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to have an answer and it was not in my own group that I could have that because we didn't
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believe in all that.
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So I started to be very interested in seeing planets and different places to just understand
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my experience.
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I had a few more, but it's going to be for another, a few more spaceship situations and
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planet situations after that.
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BMH Adwater, who is a very renowned writer, I met with her and she's doing a new book,
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new research on near-death experiences that have an element of extraterrestrial in their
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and E or spaceship and she admitted that after all those years that she also had one
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element of that, but she never dared to share it either because it's always so ridiculed.
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So it could happen that some people that had near-death experience after their and E would
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have element of other world situation.
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That was the case for me.
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I did have another experience, another spaceship.
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So for me, I started to think of that's what I think now, but I don't have the truth in
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things.
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I do believe that there is a physical world with different planets and yes, different
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life form on different planets because it wouldn't make sense that we have millions of galaxies
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and suddenly just for us earth human to be alive.
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That's actually very self-centered.
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Very arrogant attitude.
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Yes.
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It does make sense that if there are other planets, other galaxies, other that there
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is life there.
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So that makes sense.
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And I have a French YouTube channel on NDEs and I interviewed a lady who she's now 85
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years old.
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She had an ND when she was giving birth in her early 30s.
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She doesn't speak any English.
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She doesn't know anything about alien or extraterrestrial, nothing.
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And there's very little literature in French on that topic anyway.
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So when she was, she had her near that experienced dying from giving birth.
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She had lost all her blood.
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And it's a French interview that I have done from her.
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And she said that she was in a spaceship too.
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And then there was that being with a white long robe also.
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And that one being told her, told her that she was from Venus and that they'd been helping
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people on earth for centuries to grow into that unconditional love state and become more
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loving beings that can connect directly with God because we were in a very, we are not
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a very advanced planet.
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Let's put it that way.
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So yeah, I do believe there are other beings.
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But I do believe there's two different things, the planets and the universe and the aliens
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and the extraterrestrial.
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And when you die, when you go to the other world, the world of light, the world of God,
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the world of where we come from.
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So that's two different worlds.
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Because a physical world, people are still alive.
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All those beings are still alive like we are alive here.
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And then at some point, die and go back to the center of all creation, which is God.
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That's what I believe.
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But I may be wrong.
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I mean, that's what I'm thinking.
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Well, I asked your opinion and I appreciate your opinion.
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Can you expound on that any?
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Where do you think we came from?
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What I do believe is, and that's a belief I have after having many friends that didn't
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have any of that experience when they were alive, but remember who they were before coming
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to Earth, the pre-birth memories.
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So when I talk to them and also when I read some of the books, we come from that world
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of lights where we were in the center of creation with Creator, with Father.
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Everyone is a spirit, a soul.
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And then we make our journey towards either Earth or other dimensions, other worlds, other
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planets, to experience what we want to experience on this Earth.
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I have a very dear friend.
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She had a pre-birth memory.
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She remembered choosing the planet, choosing how she was going to look like, and also what
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religion she would have for what she wanted to learn on Earth.
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And that was big.
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So I do believe we are souls and we are amazing beings, amazing spirit of light.
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We are royalty.
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And we come on a journey to help and to learn and to help as well, I think, when we can
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give love.
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And that's the only reason I do those interviews.
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It's not out of an ego thing, I want to be on an interview.
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It's more like, because I want to spread love, I want to spread awakening that we can give
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love to others, that our first purpose is to love and be loved.
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And we can expand that every day in our life.
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We can do, we can give, we can look at somebody and smile, we can open a door, we can help
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somebody in need.
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If somebody tells you a problem, you can be there and hold the space with them and listen
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and encourage.
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That's a big purpose.
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Everyone is always, oh, what is my purpose on Earth?
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What's my mission?
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It's very easy.
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The first mission is to love ourselves and love others and conditionally the best way
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we can.
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And that's a huge mission.
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I think we're here to, and the people that have had any experience of spiritual awakening
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or are in a religion, and I don't want to criticize any religion because everyone in
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a way, deep down, is trying to connect with Creator or God or Source or God.
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We are trying to connect to that ultimate love and goodness of life.
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And because there's all, everyone is thinking we are in the truth, you have the truth, I
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have the truth.
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I mean, sometimes it just makes my heart spin because everyone is just depending their own
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spirituality, like the truth.
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And we are all, as long as you connect with God's love, you're in the right direction.
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And everything else will know when we go there.
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So, beautifully said.
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Yvonne, thank you so much for being with me today.
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Oh, it was a pleasure, Eric.
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It was a real pleasure.
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Thank you for inviting me.
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Thanks again for listening and sharing this podcast.
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