A Message For US As a Species - Crystal's NDE

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From the time that they pronounced me that was

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a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then

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they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I

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could see people screaming and crying But I didn't

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realize that was actually my physical body because

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I was somewhere else The only thing that I could

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feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace

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there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was

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greeted by people I had known in the past I'm

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back home again. Incredibly safe and felt at

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home. Welcome. Welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.

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We have a beautiful guest today, Crystal Cassidy,

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coming to us from San Francisco. My old stomping

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grounds. What's it like out there today? It's

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beautiful. It's like 72. Got a sunny day. Can't

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complain. Believe it or not Utah is the same

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today. Oh wow Yeah, lucky us Of course, we don't

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have any humidity. We don't have an ocean sitting

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there or anything else, but I'll keep my jealousy

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to myself Hey before we jump in to talking about

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your near -death experience and all kinds of

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other things Crystal just give us a little background

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on you. Who's crystal? Who's crystal? So that's

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a question I sit with often. So for me there's

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really kind of two sides to my coin that I've

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tried to unite in a lot of ways. I grew up studying

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martial arts and at the age of 12 and it was

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a long love affair with that warriors yoga and

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meditation was a part of that practice and that

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training. And so it really led me to a deeper

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understanding of the mastery of the body and

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also of the mind. And so I was quite a martial

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arts nerd in a lot of ways. I was also a science

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nerd. So I studied biochem in college, worked

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in pharmaceutical development and eventually

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in cancer research and genomics, a diagnostic

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specifically. And so a very kind of analytical

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side to me as well. and grew up in Canada, the

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States. That's kind of the long story short.

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As I meditated more and got deeper into that

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in my 20s, I had the Kundalini awakening before

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a near -death experience. Everything started

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to change for me in about 2011, 2012. And you

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have a cat named after a telescope. I do. I have

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a British shorthair cat. with those wild yellow

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eyes and his name's Hubble after the telescope

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and he's quite a guide and teacher of mine actually

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and also a menace. I wanted to see him but you

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made him disappear a little bit too fast. I did.

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He likes to get very active right when we hit

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record. He loves it. Of course, of course. Everything

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wants to hold us up in our progress here. Well,

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I know very little about your experience. So

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this is going to be interesting hearing it for

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the first time here Why don't you just give us

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an idea? This was what back in 2020? 2020 you

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can guess what was going on at the time I would

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say my near -death experience or if you want

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to call it a severe illness out of body However,

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you want to label it has some unique elements

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to it. So I'll just preface it with with that

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do with it what you will. So for me, I started

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having premonitions of my experience before it

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happened, which I didn't really realize what

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that was until in retrospect. But I was in a

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meditation teacher training in that January,

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and I started to to see something coming. I saw

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Death destruction. It wasn't my usual meditation

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experience and so I was I was pretty thrown off

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about it to To the point to where I'm not a painter

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really the visual artist of any kind But I started

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to paint it because it really just struck me

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in such a way I could feel something coming in

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and I also worked in biotech So I started to

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hear rumors of a virus moving around the globe

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And I already knew deep in my bones that it was

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going to be a part of my experience. And so as

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I got sick, and as soon as I started feeling

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sick, I cried. I had a breakdown on my bed because

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I knew it was karmic. I could feel that. I knew

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it was going to be difficult. I could feel that

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as well. And so I was almost grieving before

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anything had happened, which was a very odd experience.

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And I haven't really had that since. I got sicker

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and sicker and luckily had some amazing friends

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in the medical field. So I kind of got some heads

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up that when you start getting cytokine storms

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and what those are is when your immune system

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starts to attack your body along with the virus.

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So it starts to compound on itself. And so when

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I felt in my lungs, this heat, It's like internal

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heat, like you're cooking from the inside. And

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then a coldness, and then a stiffness, like bricks

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were being laid in your lungs. I knew I was in

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trouble at that point. And if you remember back

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in March of 2020, that nobody really knew much.

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We didn't know whether ibuprofen was gonna help

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or hurt you. And so in that context, I ended

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up in the hospital. I had to go into quarantine.

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I had to say goodbye to my husband, which is

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still to this day, the hardest thing I've ever

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had to do. And I was by myself in this experience,

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which was incredibly isolating. I could no longer

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rely on my analytical mind to crack the code

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and figure out the right course of action, nor

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could anyone around me either. So truly dancing

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with the unknown and Prior to this, I have had

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already have had out of body experiences. So

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as I got sicker, it's almost like your energy

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starts to come up in out. And so I was having

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these kind of in and out experiences of the body,

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because it was very painful and difficult to

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be in the body at that point. I was also and

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I can talk more about this as on the other side

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of it I was starting to perceive what I call

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a past life or you want to call it a simultaneous

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timeline and it was of a man in medieval times

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maybe and there was a war going on that he'd

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gone to war and I got a ton just really a high

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degree of detail about this lifetime that I was

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popping into for some reason. He had been injured

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in the war this was the first scene that I had

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seen in January was this scene of him at war.

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And there was also a pandemic at the time in

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that timeline. And he had gone home to his family

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and everybody had perished unfortunately from

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the virus in that timeline. And for some reason

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to this day, I don't fully understand what I

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was experiencing now was affecting that and maybe

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vice versa. And so I would see kind of in and

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out of body like I'm looking down well it's like

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a 360 degree view but on his lifetime and I can

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come back to kind of how that resolves but it's

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very trippy you can also feel death nearby for

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those of you who've had these experiences you

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may know what I'm talking about it's a very somewhat

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surprising feeling of experiencing death and

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I'm talking about the energy of death and I could

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feel it I knew it was in my space and it's like

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an old friend showing up at your door unexpectedly

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there's a very weird familiarity and if you think

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about it it makes sense that we have that familiarity

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I knew that I had a choice I also knew that that

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choice wasn't just from my conscious mind there

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was something I was becoming aware of behind

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me I call it the higher self and there's more

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communication starting to happen. I could also,

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when I was out of the body, more clearly perceive

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that this was a stepping off point in this lifetime,

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that it was an exit point. I had decided to stay,

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that I wasn't done yet. So I can bring you to

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this moment where I was in the hospital, I was

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in an incredible amount of pain. my nervous system

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was was failing. I couldn't walk anymore. I had

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a moment where I experienced surrender on a deeper

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level than I had ever experienced it before and

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it wasn't really a giving up. It was like a giving

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over and I fell back into life. Everything happened

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in an instant and it's really hard to describe

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but I do my best here and as that happened There

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was a call that came from beyond me, but it was

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also me, my higher self, and it was a call for

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support and help. It almost seemed like because

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I got out of my own way, I let go of the resistance

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to what I was experiencing, allowed that surrender,

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allowed that call for help to go out, and there

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was an instantaneous response. I call that response

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loving intelligence. It felt like to me because

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I was very connected and continue to be now to

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the yogic ascended masters. So it feels like

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to me there was some tie in there with Yogananda

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and I'm feeling a little twinkle there. So I

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think that's confirmation. But that intelligence

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showed up and started to work on my energy body.

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And so, in my energy body outside of the body

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I could feel my first center you want to call

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it the root center light up and then the space

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between my eyes what would be between my eyes

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and then the heart space so it was like one two

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three bing bing bing and when that happened I

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landed back in my body and just sat in this surprisingly

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no pain and just basked in this kind of blissful

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receiving state for who knows how long eventually

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their pain returned but I I knew I knew at that

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point that there was help available and that

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I wasn't having to rely on my my own analytical

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mind to to save myself that I could give it over

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and that was from there a long journey of healing

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about a year to be able to do most normal things

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again And I had other experiences across time

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and space, but that's a pretty good introduction.

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Okay. Well, I appreciate all that background.

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I'm just madly kind of writing down questions

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that I want you to fill in some blanks for me.

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But I think the first one is sort of an overall,

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where do we go with this kind of thing? Because

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a lot of people that come on the show will talk

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about Oh, I felt God's love or I felt like I

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was in heaven or some of those kinds of things.

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And you explained your experience very different

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than that. And this is a, by the way, this is

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a safe place where we're not saying one's right

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and one's wrong. Everybody is different and everybody's

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experience is different. So I appreciate hearing

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about yours and the differences that it has in

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a lot of what we hear here. With all of that

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said, let me get to a couple of things. You mentioned

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you had had some out -of -body experiences prior

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to this. Would you say this one was unique in

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some way? It was very different because of health

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-wise where you were at and what was going on

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with your body? Yeah, there are mechanics to

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it that are similar. Like I had already experienced

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in 2015 the oneness experience that you're talking

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about that people come out and outside of the

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body of the time space reality and experience

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that knowing of oneness, not just the belief

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of it. So I had already touched that in 2015.

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So that was familiar to me, still experience

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that in this state of just being deeply, deeply

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seen, connected, understood, held, loved. in

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a deeply profound way that you then bring back

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with you to the best of your abilities. But I

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would say the difference at that point was that,

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how to put it, was that there was a, you could

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call it almost a more complete separation from

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the body in a way that I hadn't experienced before

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because of The the the illness and the physical

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pressures and that took a lot of energetic work

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to more fully bring my My consciousness all the

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way back down into the body which was which was

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quite the challenge in the time after that I

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didn't experience that before You're kind of

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pop out and pop back in this was different in

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that way. Yeah, you also mentioned what you called

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the energy of death Tell me what that is or what

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it feels like and how that affected this Yeah,

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it's It's something that I think probably people

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have felt in similar experiences and do Experience

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when we all ultimately make the transition and

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it's undeniable. There's something very prominent

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about the energy very certain very Familiar which

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is what struck me the most I was not expecting

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that like oh, I've been here before I've experienced

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this transition. This is probably the one of

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the more familiar things in an incarnation to

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experience that felt not ominous or threatening

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just It's really hard to describe but you just

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you know it when you meet it. I hope that helps

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I Try not to ask easy questions Love it. I love

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it. You also talked about Sounded like you were

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sort of popping in and out from memories of a

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past life. You talked about the soldier Yeah,

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and I've heard a lot about past life regressions

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most people have and some of that kind of thing

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I don't know that I've ever had anyone in describing

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their NDE, talking about popping in and out of

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past lives. Am I describing it right? Is that

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how you look at it? Yeah, it is. And I haven't

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heard of any either, at least to this point,

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but it was fascinating. And I would get glimpses

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at different points in that lifetime. And I did.

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I saw him very bitter. I saw him like a lost

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soul after being injured in the war and then

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coming back to having lost his entire family,

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he never recovered. The interesting thing about

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it is that as I went more through my experience,

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and especially once I started to get into the

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healing after it, and I was going real deep into

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my spiritual work, I was having to really excavate

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all of these patterns. You know, I was an athlete,

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so I was used to my body doing... Pretty much

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what I set my mind to do and then I couldn't

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go to the bathroom by myself So it was incredibly

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humbling and it required a deep dive into my

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own work and so as I was doing that his life

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started to change which I find fascinating and

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The last time I saw I saw him and I haven't seen

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him since it's probably about six months after

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the more intense part of the experience. And

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I was seeing him from above and I was looking

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down on this green field. And it was him and

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his new family. He had found community. He'd

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become kind of like a guide for the children

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of that community. And he looked up at me and

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he saw me and I still get chills. And for some

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reason, something was balanced between those

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timelines. So do you feel like that was you the

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he was you? Mm -hmm. Yeah, I knew that to be

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true I just wanted it I just want to clarify

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and make sure and do you feel like the things

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that you were doing as far as your healing and

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especially the spiritual work you're talking

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about Do you think that affected him back then?

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I think so. Yeah, that was that was what I was

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Receiving from the experience. Yeah Okay I'm

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I'm picturing a few of our listeners right now

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with their minds just Exploding going. Oh, come

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on. I don't get that. I don't my pastor doesn't

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teach that and that's just fine. I Love it. Okay.

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Okay. I've got more questions for you You talked

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about this intelligence that was responding to

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you. Tell me a little bit more about that What

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do you make of that? It's an all pervasive intelligence

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all -pervasive meaning, there are no parts of

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yourself that are not seen, understood, and acknowledged.

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You know, when we're talking and when most of

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us are in relationship in this realm, you're

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perceiving only a component, small component

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of who that being really is. And this intelligence

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goes through everything, can perceive all of

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it. and is completely non -judgmental, completely

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loving. It's not an emotional love. It is a remembrance

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of the connection of everything being acknowledged

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in you and through you. That's the best way that

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I can try to explain it. Can emotion be part

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of that? It is. It's not that it's not emotional,

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it's that an emotion lives a lot more in the

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physical form than it does in the beyond physical

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forms. You still have experience and emotion

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to a degree, but it's not quite the same as being

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in the physical body. It feels like the feeling

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of it is pure acceptance. There isn't a mental

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processing. it's just in in immediate knowing

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everything happens all at once like that movie

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everywhere everything all at once and so it's

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really difficult sometimes for even me and my

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human crystal to wrap my mind around it because

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it's not bound by space and time okay so now

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let me ask you this part you're a scientist right

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scholastically and and in your career How does

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the analytical scientific side come into some

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kind of harmony with this side? Or are they at

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some kind of disharmony or dissonance? I don't

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think so anymore. I think that it's really starting

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to intertwine, especially right now, in a whole

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new way. I see really the worlds of science and

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what we call spirituality beyond the body experience

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starting to unite in really exciting ways. And

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I've been lucky enough to talk with some of the

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top minds right now in consciousness research,

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like MIT's Dr. Donald Hoffman. We're starting

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to understand that space time breaks down. We

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know this for a fact, that when you get to a

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small enough scale, high enough mass that the

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that space -time as we know it is not foundational

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and So theories on the science side that we're

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applying that are within space -time to try and

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explain reality are always going to come up against

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a problem and so now what we're starting to do

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in the science world is look beyond space -time

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and starting to realize that if you read Stephen

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Hawking's last book he finally lands on the idea

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that we live in an emergent universe. And that

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all lines up with my own experiences of beyond

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body consciousness. And so I think that the old

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worlds and the Newtonian kind of orientation

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served us for a couple hundred years. but it's

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starting to reach its limits. It doesn't mean

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that gravity is not gravity. It doesn't mean

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that, you know, I'm not in this body right here

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right now and you're in yours where you are.

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But there is a broader component to reality that

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we can then start to become aware of. I think

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it's going to become more harmonious in the years

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to come. So do you think science is going to

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adopt a lot of this or vice versa? Who's going

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to give? Who's going to come to the middle? I

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think both, you know, religion and a lot of spiritual

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traditions are right in many ways that humans

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are not limited to just this flesh. And then

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maybe the dogma kind of stops us. We don't have

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the rigor to evolve those teachings. evolve as

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we do our understanding of the universe. And

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then science, you know, has gotten a lot of things

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right and propelled us forward in a lot of ways.

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And then also been limited by the orientation

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to materialism as the one and only foundation.

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And so I think I don't think it's one or the

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other. I think that it's both together have components.

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And I think the people who are really making

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progress. are the scientists that are speaking

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with spiritual leaders and the spiritual leaders

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that are speaking with scientists. I have a lot

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of near -death experiencers tell me that one

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of the things they learned during their experience

00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:31.059
was all about quantum mechanics and physics.

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Now they didn't remember a lot of it when they

00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.220
came back here, but they had a general understanding

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and then they could pick up a book. about string

00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:43.079
theory or something else in quantum physics and

00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:46.039
immediately fully understand it. Like it just

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all the memories flowed back of all this understanding.

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I don't know that I have a question there but

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what do you think of that? I think it makes a

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lot of sense when you expand into those other

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realms of intelligence you can know things in

00:24:04.980 --> 00:24:08.720
a more multi -dimensional way. And it also makes

00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:11.720
sense to me that it can be difficult to then

00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.440
bring back that knowledge into this realm because

00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:17.819
then you're working with the analytical mind,

00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.420
which is a receiver of consciousness. That makes

00:24:20.420 --> 00:24:22.619
sense to me because there's been a lot of times

00:24:22.619 --> 00:24:24.980
when I've gone out and then I come back and I'm

00:24:24.980 --> 00:24:28.940
like, oh my gosh, how do I translate what I encountered

00:24:28.940 --> 00:24:32.440
or what I knew back down into the language of

00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:35.900
this realm? And so it makes sense to me that

00:24:35.900 --> 00:24:40.420
if they then find this language in a book or

00:24:40.420 --> 00:24:44.000
some other component that enables them to bring

00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.480
that knowledge into this realm in a way that

00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:51.000
is congruent, that makes a lot of sense to me.

00:24:51.460 --> 00:24:54.640
And I've experienced that in places. You kind

00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:57.420
of have a deep recognition of what truth is,

00:24:57.700 --> 00:24:59.839
at least for you at the time. That makes a lot

00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:03.119
of sense to me. And it's not easy to put all

00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.319
this stuff into words. So maybe studying some

00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:10.559
of this science helps them do it because they

00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:13.640
kind of have this feeling of remembrance and

00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:15.579
then they're trying to figure out how to explain

00:25:15.579 --> 00:25:18.759
it. What did you mean by you landed back in your

00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.519
body? This is one of my things that I think is

00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:25.440
really entertaining is the adjectives that people

00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.180
use about coming back into their body. Tell me

00:25:28.180 --> 00:25:30.769
about landed. It's a good question. Nobody's

00:25:30.769 --> 00:25:33.430
asked me that before. Did you realize you said

00:25:33.430 --> 00:25:38.130
that, used that word? I, yeah, yeah. I used it

00:25:38.130 --> 00:25:41.990
in another experience too, that maybe I'll share,

00:25:42.390 --> 00:25:44.390
that kind of explains what I'm talking about.

00:25:45.069 --> 00:25:47.789
So when I, years later, this was probably about

00:25:47.789 --> 00:25:51.869
a year ago, year and a half, I did a three hour,

00:25:51.990 --> 00:25:55.910
four hour meditation and got swept up in gratitude

00:25:55.910 --> 00:25:59.869
and love like a wave. and I say that I landed

00:25:59.869 --> 00:26:04.150
on this fire escape in my old apartment when

00:26:04.150 --> 00:26:06.609
I was recovering and I had finally been able

00:26:06.609 --> 00:26:09.269
to walk and sit down in a chair and look up at

00:26:09.269 --> 00:26:12.230
the sky and I had a moment of profound presence

00:26:12.230 --> 00:26:14.589
and knew I was going to be okay and I always

00:26:14.589 --> 00:26:17.210
wondered about that moment and then I realized

00:26:17.210 --> 00:26:21.869
it was me from the future really and I landed

00:26:21.869 --> 00:26:25.750
in my astral body on that fire escape and there's

00:26:25.750 --> 00:26:29.480
a transmission that happened between Myself recovering

00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:34.700
years ago and me having done all this this work

00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:39.440
to to recover and awaken Find my purpose and

00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:42.859
so it's it's yeah. I wonder why I use that word

00:26:42.859 --> 00:26:46.640
It's like a landing in space and time. So when

00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:50.859
you go beyond space and time You're in that realm.

00:26:50.859 --> 00:26:53.740
I think it it feels like that's the best word

00:26:53.740 --> 00:26:56.880
to describe it when you're then back in the space

00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:01.619
time Context it's like, you know the ship comes

00:27:01.619 --> 00:27:05.180
in and you're you're getting off the The plank

00:27:05.180 --> 00:27:08.420
there or whatever when you land in a new back

00:27:08.420 --> 00:27:12.180
into a new area on the space -time Continuum

00:27:12.180 --> 00:27:16.200
and so I think that's why I use it Okay, it's

00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:20.079
amazing how many different ways People can describe

00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.819
what I'm just gonna call spiritual experiences.

00:27:22.940 --> 00:27:26.799
Okay, and that's a very broad term take that

00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:29.940
however you want. One of the questions I have

00:27:29.940 --> 00:27:33.559
for you is and especially for people of faith

00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:38.380
who maybe have lost a loved one or they're facing

00:27:38.380 --> 00:27:41.599
something in their life which we may refer to

00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.920
as a tragedy or end of life, what insights do

00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.000
you have for them that may help them feel more

00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.039
comfortable with all of this? Take away some

00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.599
of the fear that naturally as people we tend

00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:59.279
to have when we think about death I get this

00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.480
question a lot and I think it's one that as a

00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:06.720
culture we don't sit with and really confront

00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:11.359
have conversations around and Initiate ourselves

00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.720
into it's understandable that there is a lot

00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.039
of fear a lot of confusion and ultimately I say

00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:20.660
this a lot to I don't want people to necessarily

00:28:20.660 --> 00:28:25.740
take my word for it. My kind of purpose now or

00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:29.059
mission is to give people tools that they can

00:28:29.059 --> 00:28:32.500
experience consciousness as the wholeness that

00:28:32.500 --> 00:28:35.799
they are on their own and find the answer these

00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:39.180
questions for themselves. We all have a different

00:28:39.180 --> 00:28:42.539
orientation or lens to perceive our experience

00:28:42.539 --> 00:28:45.019
with and ultimately that's going to be the most

00:28:45.019 --> 00:28:48.660
profound technology that you can start to access.

00:28:49.049 --> 00:28:51.950
That that's also part of my answer to this question

00:28:51.950 --> 00:28:55.190
because you don't have to wait for one of these

00:28:55.190 --> 00:29:00.710
severe experiences to Understand the beyond body

00:29:00.710 --> 00:29:03.910
beyond space -time experience if you dedicate

00:29:03.910 --> 00:29:08.269
yourself meditation is my tool for opening the

00:29:08.269 --> 00:29:11.789
aperture of mind and You can die before you die.

00:29:11.789 --> 00:29:16.730
So to say you start to orient to the ego or the

00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:19.740
personality like human crystal here in a new

00:29:19.740 --> 00:29:22.579
ways. And it starts to serve you rather than

00:29:22.579 --> 00:29:25.359
you being victim to it. And so there's a lot

00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:28.180
of empowerment that can come from doing the work

00:29:28.180 --> 00:29:30.660
of consciousness. If you want to call that spiritual

00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:34.839
or you can also call it that. And so I think

00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.500
the best way to deal with that fear is to go

00:29:37.500 --> 00:29:41.200
into it and to ask what, what is that fear around?

00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.450
Is it i'm afraid to lose my sense of self and

00:29:45.450 --> 00:29:47.490
then the question is what is a sense of self

00:29:47.490 --> 00:29:50.049
who am i and you inevitably go down down down

00:29:50.049 --> 00:29:53.130
into that infinite onion that's the invitation

00:29:53.130 --> 00:29:56.230
i think and then once you start to experience

00:29:56.230 --> 00:29:59.890
yourself beyond the physical you know that you're

00:29:59.890 --> 00:30:03.650
an infinite player in this universe you start

00:30:03.650 --> 00:30:06.529
to perceive it not just from a standpoint of

00:30:06.529 --> 00:30:09.569
belief but from a standpoint of direct experience

00:30:10.009 --> 00:30:14.829
then the fear around death just dissolves because

00:30:14.829 --> 00:30:18.089
you understand what death is, which is only a

00:30:18.089 --> 00:30:20.809
transition and so many spiritual traditions talk

00:30:20.809 --> 00:30:25.230
about that. A transition from what to what? Transition

00:30:25.230 --> 00:30:28.609
from one space -time to no space -time and then

00:30:28.609 --> 00:30:32.109
from there wherever you want for infinity. Okay,

00:30:32.410 --> 00:30:34.369
all right. I know a lot of people are going to

00:30:34.369 --> 00:30:37.109
be interested in some of these tools that you

00:30:37.109 --> 00:30:42.079
talked about. Your website is soul, sorry, soulpodapp

00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.539
.com. In case I didn't pronounce it well enough,

00:30:45.579 --> 00:30:47.559
it'll be in the show notes. You can just click

00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:50.740
on it. I love to leave people with some kind

00:30:50.740 --> 00:30:53.819
of a message of hope. And you've just done some

00:30:53.819 --> 00:30:57.019
of that already. But if there's a way that you

00:30:57.019 --> 00:31:01.140
can quantify that in a way that people of all

00:31:01.140 --> 00:31:04.339
kinds of cultures, beliefs, and everything can

00:31:04.339 --> 00:31:06.859
relate to, I'd love you to finish with that.

00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.619
I think the message for us as a species right

00:31:11.619 --> 00:31:16.180
now, from my vantage point, that we're all here

00:31:16.180 --> 00:31:20.700
for a very powerful reason, and that we as species,

00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:23.960
as humanity, are much more powerful than we are

00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:29.460
aware of. And so I see this time, this age, as

00:31:29.460 --> 00:31:32.880
an opportunity to realize that power in each

00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.599
individual, that that lies with you. and that

00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:41.700
you are infinitely capable and all these things

00:31:41.700 --> 00:31:44.799
that you're inspired by that you see in others

00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:49.140
or in your own imagination is accessible. And

00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:52.099
to start to really view ourselves as these powerful

00:31:52.099 --> 00:31:56.960
beings and creators to also experience that knowing

00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.000
of connectivity with all of us will start to

00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.559
make more harmonious decisions. as individuals

00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.859
and together. And then I'm very optimistic for

00:32:07.859 --> 00:32:10.980
the future in that context. All right. Thanks

00:32:10.980 --> 00:32:14.279
a lot, Crystal. Good talking to you. So good.

00:32:14.460 --> 00:32:17.819
Thank you, Eric. Thanks again for listening and

00:32:17.819 --> 00:32:20.140
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