"I Saw HIS Hand" - Proof of Greg's NDE

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From the time that they pronounced me that was

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a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then

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they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I

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could see people screaming and crying But I didn't

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realize that was actually my physical body because

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I was somewhere else The only thing that I could

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feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace

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there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was

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greeted by people I had known in the past I'm

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back home again. Incredibly safe and felt at

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home. Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody.

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Oh my gosh, we're doing something different today.

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It seems like I say that all the time. Hey Greg,

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over in Tokyo, say hello to everybody. Hello

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everybody from Tokyo, Japan here. It's been really

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interesting coming all the way over here. You

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know, I've had like six earthquakes since I've

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been here. Yeah, it's a crazy place there. There's

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some big things going on in the world right now

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as you probably well know in regards to all this

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Not only both not only the earthquakes and thank

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God that Japan's very prepared for earthquakes

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Because what was it Venezuela that wasn't really

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well prepared? Yeah, and when you see things

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like this in some parts of Asia and and yeah

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and Venezuela and Thousands of people die. It's

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it's horrible and tragic Hey before we get into

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it. Let me just give a a little bit of background

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and then I'm gonna have you do some kind of summary

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and and some some pre -work here for everybody

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but Greg was on the show a year ago and I don't

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very often have people back but he was one of

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our most popular episodes especially on YouTube

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I think I don't know 150 ,000 views or something

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like that and over 800 comments which means people

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were into it there's always controversy you know

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love hate but wow a lot more love than hate on

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this one anyway greg wanted to come back and

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we're thrilled to have him back and we're going

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to be talking about some new things today from

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greg we're not just rehashing the old stuff but

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we are going to do one thing and that is for

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those who aren't familiar with greg's story i

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have asked him to take i don't know maybe 10

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minutes or so kind of bringing us up to speed,

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Greg, on what your NDE experience was. And it's

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so deep that people that want to hear more can

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go back to the episode from a year ago. I believe

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it's number 531. We'll put a link down in the

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show notes because a lot of people are going

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to hear you for the first time and want to go

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back and get the whole hour plus version. So

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with that, Is there any way that you can summarize

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your experience before we jump into the new stuff?

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Yeah, I think a very quick summary is just the

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whole journey to the other side, which was basically

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first, there was like a lot of darkness, almost

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like as I walked through the valley, the shadow

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of death, you know, there was this whole darkness,

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a lot of reflecting with the difficulties that

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we all go through life, then encountering an

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angel. And what some might call the Holy Spirit,

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which is actually what I personally believe it

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was, I was greeted by the angel that ultimately

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looks at your heart, which is interesting because

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if you notice in scripture, it says, God judges

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the heart, right? He doesn't judge your beliefs.

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He doesn't even judge all these things. It's

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your heart. And I learned firsthand with being

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in front of her that... how naked I was in front

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of her, meaning not with clothing, obviously,

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but naked in regards to your heart was very much

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exposed. And that was something that I really

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learned through experience that was awkward.

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It was just very strange. You felt very vulnerable

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and you saw a lot of things about yourself that

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you didn't even know about yourself in your own

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heart. And then there was a choice whether she

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was going to take me to the next place, which

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she did. And then this gets interesting because

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she took my hand and we went into the star, we

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went into the sun. And the reason that's interesting

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is because if you read in Psalms, I was surprised

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to find out how the sun is mentioned as what

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they called the bridal chamber, you know, kind

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of where you merge with the Holy Spirit, which

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is actually what I experienced. I merged with

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the Holy Spirit and we were traveling the stars,

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which is more, you know, I think I had mentioned

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also this in the story about this book that is

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a very strange book that talks about the same

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exact thing and Then we travel the stars and

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eventually we we ended up in this almost like

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there's a council Call it almost like the council

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of God. I I'm sorry to interrupt I just want

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to interject one thing on this angel that you're

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talking about right now I went back and relistened

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to our interview and I almost felt like you were

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describing a female deity even more than you

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were an angel. Do you feel strongly like this

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was an angel or could it have been more than

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that? Some people have thought that it was like,

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you know, some people say the Virgin Mary. It

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was a female being of light. I think what people

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miss, and there's a lot of updates about all

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this, like when Jesus got baptized, for example,

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and the Holy Spirit came down, the Holy Spirit

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was depicted as a white dove, right? And when

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a man and a woman get married, The woman dresses

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in all white and the man dresses in black, right?

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Typically, that's your typical, the suit and

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she wears the white dress. And what I kind of

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learned was, and if you look, there was a gentleman

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that reached out to me who is a Bible scholar.

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And so he was shedding light on a lot of things

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that I experienced that I didn't totally understand

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where he was kind of saying things like, did

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you realize that the Holy Spirit is depicted

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as female in the scriptures? When you look at

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the original language, whether it's Aramaic and

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you know, Hebrew and even Greek. She was definitely

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female. I call her an angel of light, but she

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was really just, she was a being of light and

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what was emanating off of her very strongly,

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which was basically like emotions. It's weird

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to say that she was emanating emotions, but you

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could feel the peace. You could feel the extreme

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levels of love. You could, you could feel the

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infinite patience, just infinite patience. and

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all these beautiful qualities and one of the

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big ones was very motherly. So it was almost

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like she was the mother of, I don't know, she

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just felt very motherly. And that's the way that

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she felt. So yeah, it was definitely female.

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And is it an angel per se? I don't know. I mean,

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I call it, honestly, I call it for the sake of

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argument because people get so, like we were

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talking actually about how people get so into

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their beliefs. so I always feel like I gotta

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be so I hate to be that cautious but I wish I

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could speak more freely but you can speak more

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freely I don't want you to be cautious it's okay

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and and the only reason I bring that up is because

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as I was re -listening to how you were describing

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this being that was just sort of my impression

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of what you were trying to say but were maybe

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afraid to say because that that would be difficult

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for a lot of people to hear but if you're not

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sure that's okay too Being of light is fine.

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Yeah, it was definitely a female being of light.

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And in my personal opinion, after a lot of self

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-reflection and even going back and meditating

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on it because meditating back on the NDE has

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been very helpful because we miss things because

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my brain wasn't allowed to really be there. I

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knew that when I was there, I wasn't functioning

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from my brain. I was functioning from like the

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soul. It's almost like most of the things I remember,

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have you ever noticed that you remember things

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by heart sometimes? Like a song, you know the

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song by heart, but you don't really like know

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it in your head. So it's kind of reliving and

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going back, you know, back in there. And I never

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have dreams about it. And literally just two

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nights ago, I had a dream about that journey

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again, almost like it's been trying to speak

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to me ever since it happened. Well, we remember

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the things that we feel much more than we remember

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specific words. So I think that's what you're

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talking about here and that would make sense

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Because of that's how our human brains function,

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you know when you meet someone for the first

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time Let's talk about love at first sight, right?

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It's not oh, I remember she said hello nice ring

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or whatever. No, it was how someone felt immediately

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and That's what I keep getting from you. I'm

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sorry to keep interjecting, but I want you to

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let it all out. I don't want you to hold back.

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I don't care if these things are controversial.

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So just a light on us. Yeah. So like I said,

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I personally think it was the Holy Spirit and

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her light was very interesting too, because her

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light exposed everything. And when I say exposed

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everything, it exposed everything in your soul.

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And it allowed me on a personal level, to see

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a lot about myself that maybe I don't normally

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see or even just the average person in general.

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So that was a really big quote unquote revelation

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for me at that moment. And then of course you

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feel pretty low. It's pretty humbling to see

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yourself that way because you don't feel like,

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well, I didn't, I didn't feel like fantastic.

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Like I'm the best guy in the world or anything.

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You know, it was very humbling to see all your

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faults. It didn't feel like she was judging me

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though. It almost felt like God wrote the law

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on our hearts or on us somehow. And she just

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shed that light so in a way we could see all

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the things. And then that's why you reach that

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whole repentance here. You're not repenting because

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somebody else is chastising you. You're repenting

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because you're seeing the truth upon yourself.

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And she was just shedding that light. That was

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the first experience. Then we travel the stars.

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And it was a lot like the movie. It's funny.

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I stumbled upon the movie. Have you seen a movie

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called Contact? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Why

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is that interesting, by the way? I'm curious

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now because there's something interesting about

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this too, from my end. I just thought it was

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a cool movie and it's been years since I've seen

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it. Were there beings with like lit up all over?

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I'm trying to remember. Because the main thing

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that I remember from that movie is the final

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scene with the beach and weren't there like two

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or three moons or something? And it was beautiful.

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That was the whole reason I brought it up is

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because when she was traveling that's what it

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was literally like it was like you would go through

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the star and the star was like a door or a portal

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of sorts or a gate and then you'd go through

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at these crazy high speeds and it was just like

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the movie contact the way you were moving and

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you could see the cosmos but you were going so

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fast and so it was extremely similar to that

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movie and when she would arrive somewhere I remember

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that this, it was so identical. It almost makes

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me think that somebody must have experienced

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these things that I went through too. So you

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travel at immense speed and then everything just

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stops boom and gets really, really just instantly

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silent. We did a lot of that traveling through

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the stars until we arrived to the council and

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the council was the one that had, they knew who

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I was. They were like, we've been waiting for

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you. It was this whole, it even felt like a.

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Dinner or like a supper which was really really

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strange that it felt that way and then they had

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a lot of visions for me and talking to me and

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that kind of stuff and then they're the ones

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who actually opened up the door that ultimately

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led to God and One of the things that I had reflected

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on it was one of one of the comments one of your

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viewers Which is why this is always so helpful,

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you know when we all reflect with each other

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when I went into the Almighty the Almighty look

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like He looked like a giant river, but extremely

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massive, just absolutely huge. And of course

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he moved like the river, kind of like the wind,

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but ultimately without thinking about it, I walked

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into him and it was like a baptism, I guess.

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You know, I guess I didn't really think about

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it a ton, but I literally walked into him as

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if I was walking into a river and I ironically

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self -baptized, I guess I laid down in him and

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something happened since then. I mean, since

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we've spoken since the last time, there are a

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lot of things that have happened and continuous

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information because he was, you know, this is

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kind of, I don't know if this is controversial,

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but you have the being of light, right? This,

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this just absolute beauty, which is what I think

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most people with NDs describe, you know, the

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light and all, and all the feeling of love and

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all these beautiful things. But when I was with

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God, it was quite different. It wasn't all rainbows

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and unicorns and just bright light. He let me

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know a lot of things, but one, it's the source

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of everything. So everything is born of him,

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including the Holy Spirit, it seems, which was

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almost like his heart, I guess, his heart of

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hearts, who knows? And there was so much information.

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The level of information that was flowing through

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him is unfathomable. One of the stranger things

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that I shared with a friend of mine was even

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the knowledge of the pyramids. as crazy as and

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as weird as that sounds like for example just

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the pyramid of Giza that information as far as

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the structure of it how they built it like all

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these all this information flowed by me in probably

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one second or less maybe nanoseconds and there

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was so much information and which is overwhelming

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because i can't explain to you how to build the

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pyramid of Giza in one second that's i can't

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do that and So it was too much for my brain to

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comprehend. So I either had to surrender or try

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to grab just one little tiny piece. And I chose

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the latter. I chose surrendering. I just chose

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to lay in him and the information was flowing

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through me. And he rarely spoke, but he spoke

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for a moment. He said, everything that was flowing

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through him felt like an answer to a question,

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but it was only answers. I quickly realized answers

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make no sense if there's no question. If I tell

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you the answer is red, you're like, well, what

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does red mean? Or 0 .256, what does that mean?

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Right? It doesn't mean anything without a question.

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And then he spoke, because I felt confusion about

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just massive amount of information flowing through

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me, which I didn't realize, by the way, Eric,

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till later, that information was being, it's

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in me. It was being almost like downloaded, almost

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like an IV drip. It's been dripping. Ever since

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and so that's why it's it's compiled into I literally

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have a book inside of me that I've never written

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because I don't consider myself a writer, but

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there's a lot of information that's been shared

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and of course I've been questioning for a long

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time whether I should share a lot of it and To

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be quite honest your viewer inspired me to do

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it. She's that whoever made that comment that

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said look You got to go to the other side and

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be baptized in God. This is kind of something

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that we should actually What's the word I'm looking

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for? I mean, obviously be grateful for, but potentially

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like you got the opportunity to come back. You

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should talk about this. You should share what's

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been shown to you, but I'm not going to lie to

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you, Eric, as you and I were talking before,

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some of it might be very controversial. And so

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that's why, you know, I don't like, I don't think

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anybody likes hate. You know, you don't want

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people hating on you. And, and you know, you

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mentioned the other show that we did, and it

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was actually quite beautiful for the most part.

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Most people made very positive comments and which

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was really nice and kind of encourages you to

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say hey should I come out of my shell more should

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I share some of these things because some of

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these things like like we said you know some

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of them can be controversial and so laying in

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him when he spoke you know the Almighty said

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there are no questions here only answers and

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that was one thing that he said and it was I

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find it funny reflecting back on it because that's

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what it was it was just all these answers And

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it would take a lot of self -reflection to figure

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out the questions. And I think that the right

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thing sometimes is when you're seeking as a scripture,

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say, right, seek and you shall find, sometimes

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the most important thing is finding the right

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questions. And then you seek out the answer,

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you know, for that deeper understanding. And

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so that's kind of the story in a nutshell. Though,

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actually, though I did come back, I guess that's

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the other part of the story. And I did come back

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and I learned something also because I came back

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and with God there was some form of sound. You

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could call it a frequency if you want, but it

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was like a sound within a sound within a sound.

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It was multiple sounds that interjected that

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really created him. And I didn't understand until

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again these things took so much time to kind

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of re -download. Do you remember in the scripture

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at the beginning how it says in the beginning

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was the word and the word was with God? And the

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word was God. First John, I believe. Well, in

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the very beginning, I thought it was, if I remember

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correctly, I thought it was Genesis. Well, Genesis

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talks about about that very thing. It's also

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in in John one. Sorry, not first John John one

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in the beginning was the word and the word was

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with God and the word was God. There you go.

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And yes, that's also related to Genesis as well.

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And that's exactly what I came to realize that

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It wasn't a word. I think when you look at the

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original writings and you talk about the logos

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and what that word means, because it's confusing

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to us. See, the problem is when you experience

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something like being on the other side and then

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you hear certain words. When I hear a word, I

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don't know about you, but I think of a word.

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I think of one word. In the beginning was the

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word. But what I realized is the beginning was

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sound. There was a sound. God is like this strange

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sound. And interestingly enough, when we were

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talking about the things that I actually saw

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on the other side, I've never heard that or read

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it in any book that described the other side

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accurately, which is maybe controversial, too,

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because I know a lot of people have claimed to

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have their NDEs. I've never heard one NDE describe

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what I saw. So I felt kind of alone in it, right?

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Like, OK, this is interesting. And then I found

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it in this book. This book is like all these

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stories and things that Jesus said that I've

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never heard of before. But he described it. with

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perfection. And then he literally described in

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the beginning was a sound. He called it sound.

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He didn't call it word. So this was actually,

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I hate to say this, but this is way more accurate.

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The things that Jesus was saying in this book.

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So this book began to be very interesting to

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me. I'm like, this is a book that people have

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said terrible things about. And all I know about

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it is from the research that I did is this man

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claims that his father was a famous translator.

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and that this famous translator had access to

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hidden archives from the Vatican. So he claims

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that this is stuff from the Vatican. I don't

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really care so much about that. If the information

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is accurate, if it looks like everything I experienced

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on the other side, I just went with that, with

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personal experience. So that was something that

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was interesting to me. Yeah. And I'll just interject.

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We're not doing an infomercial for this book,

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certainly. In fact, I haven't even read it, but...

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You and I are both seekers of truth. And when

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we find things wherever we find it, if it rings

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true, then great, we've learned something new.

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And this is a place where you learn some new

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things. And that's, I think that's why you've

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brought it up multiple times. Should we move

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on from here? Let's talk about, I'm just backing

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up on everything tonight. So I apologize listeners,

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but I have found that people don't always remember

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everything from their NDE immediately. Some people

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don't remember their NDE at all immediately and

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it comes to them oh like Vinnie Tolman hit him

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three days later all of a sudden all of it came

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flooding back and some people it takes longer

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and there's everything in between but one thing

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of note here And I think this is kind of where

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we're going with Greg, is even if you remember

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all of it immediately, it can take a long, long

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time to process. And as you're processing this

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over days, months, years, decades, you can learn

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new things from it. That doesn't mean that these

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things aren't real or true. It's okay that some

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of these things take time. Especially since we

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don't have like an NDE therapist to go to to

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help you immediately within a couple of days

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understand everything. So everybody's on their

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own journey to really learn and figure these

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things out from themselves. So I think that's

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where we're going today is I don't know if there's

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our new things that you remember. If so, tell

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me. And if not, we'll jump into just new things

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that you have learned from it. Yeah, there was

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one part that I had forgotten was I got to see

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as strange as this sounds, too. I got to see

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the hand of what I think was God. I mean, I'm

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being cautious again, but his hand was like super

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big. I mean, super huge, so big that Earth felt

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like it would probably be less than a grain of

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sand on your finger on your thumb. And that was

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one part that I hadn't remembered. And when it

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came back to me, I was like, oh, that's right.

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I remember his hand being really, really big.

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I don't know why he showed it the way he showed

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it. And it was ironic to me that a lot of the

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stuff that's bringing back memories is stuff

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that I'm seeing here in Japan. It's shocking

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to me because I think that the whole story, not

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just of my NDE, but even stuff in scripture and

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the whole bit. I didn't realize, some people

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have made some interesting discoveries, not just

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in Japan, but in China, that completely relates

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to the scriptures, by the way. And it's within

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their symbols. There's something very deep within

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even the scriptures that we don't know about,

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even in Asia, including the council that I saw.

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I think I might have mentioned that one before,

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that I saw it in Japan. I saw it on some painting

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and I was like... Where did that come from because

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that's what I saw it's almost like there's bits

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and pieces scattered everywhere So I found that

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kind of kind of odd and interesting and and how

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biblical stories are within symbols in Chinese

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characters and Japanese characters if anybody

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has not heard about this it's quite new and it's

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very strange because we have the proof we can

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literally look at them and it took a guy to Kind

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of decipher them and see them not to mention.

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This is very important work I really wish people

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have a hard time finding this one. It's really

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hard a guy named Rob Robert Moll no, not Robert

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Malone Robert Edward grant Have you heard of

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this guy at all Eric? No, so another one where

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he found these things written inside the pyramids

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and they also depict Very interesting things

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within scripture including what I saw the most

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beautiful image of the tree of life and certain

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things that happened to me when I was on the

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other side that are written inside the pyramid

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of Giza. I don't know if you find that odd. How

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is that possible? And it seems to me that they

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were definitely traveling the stars and they

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knew how. And so that's why there's all these,

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it's all scattered and there's pieces everywhere.

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And like I said, more memories, you know, coming

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forth little by little. Yeah, it's interesting.

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Especially that some things that relate to Christianity

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would be in Asia where there's very little Christianity

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going on. So I wonder what the history of some

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of those are. Where did they come from? Do you

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have any idea? Well, my own personal opinion

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is that I think that the stories that we hear

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are possibly older than we realize. Like, for

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example, the Great Flood, you know, Noah. I think

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these stories go back quite a bit farther. I

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found super fun. Like I said, these particular

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these guys from China see him have to discover

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this within their characters. And they started

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sharing basically Christianity in China because

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of it, which is all very, very interesting. And

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they have what I've come to realize. And this

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triggers people for some reason. But there's

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certain words that are used in Asia that I've

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come to realize are basically the same thing,

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but a different word is used in Christianity.

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So people get triggered because it sounds like

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a different word. And then people start arguing

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and I'm thinking to myself, when I really look

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at it, we're talking about the same thing, guys.

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You know what I mean? Yeah. Do you have an example?

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Well, let me think. I'm trying to think of one

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that's not as controversial as the one that I

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did here. I can tell you, well, like the Holy

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Spirit and that light they have a name for her

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in in china and they call her guanyin so it's

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a little bit of a what does that mean is there

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a direct translation of some kind well guanyin

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is her name okay i think they call her like a

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bodhisattva so that's why that would probably

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get controversial you know but yet when you really

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learn a lot about her i look everywhere for truth

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eric you know i i think god is so big that there

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can potentially be truth all over the place.

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And so that's one that I encountered, but I encountered,

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this was a really, really funny one. Remember

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the story in the Bible about don't throw pearls

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before swine? So I found that story both in Japan

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and in China. The same exact thing basically,

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but kind of sometimes worded a little differently.

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And I found the story. This was really wild.

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I found a story, have you ever heard of, this

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is embarrassing almost, but have you ever heard

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of the Monkey King story before? Well, I don't

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think so. You probably haven't. I didn't know

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much about it either. And this is what I mean

00:26:24.460 --> 00:26:28.339
about through my NDE, there's like, it's almost

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like when I spent time with God, he put up like

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a really strong magnet in me. And when I feel

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when he wants me to do certain things, like really

00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:39.819
strongly. And I went to go look into this Monkey

00:26:39.819 --> 00:26:42.369
King story because It kept being pulling to me

00:26:42.369 --> 00:26:43.750
and I thought this sounds ridiculous. That's

00:26:43.750 --> 00:26:45.190
what I thought. I thought this sounds ridiculous.

00:26:45.369 --> 00:26:48.549
A monkey king? And it turns out that it's a very

00:26:48.549 --> 00:26:52.509
old, ancient story. And I found like the oldest

00:26:52.509 --> 00:26:54.150
version that I could find because they made it

00:26:54.150 --> 00:26:56.009
into modern -day movies. And when I went into

00:26:56.009 --> 00:26:58.390
the older versions, I was surprised how much

00:26:58.390 --> 00:27:00.930
of it is very similar to the Bible. And some

00:27:00.930 --> 00:27:03.829
of the stuff that's kind of in the Bible, for

00:27:03.829 --> 00:27:06.289
example, remember in the Bible, it says, and

00:27:06.289 --> 00:27:08.609
the voice of God is like the sound of many waters.

00:27:09.630 --> 00:27:11.609
So that's like a Bible verse that I don't know

00:27:11.609 --> 00:27:14.190
if a lot of people understand. But that's what

00:27:14.190 --> 00:27:17.990
I encountered in my NDE was how the water and

00:27:17.990 --> 00:27:20.309
the sound of the water seemed to open up certain

00:27:20.309 --> 00:27:23.069
things. And in the beginning of that movie, there

00:27:23.069 --> 00:27:26.750
depicts the water creating a sound. And the sound

00:27:26.750 --> 00:27:29.490
that they were trying to play in the movie, interestingly

00:27:29.490 --> 00:27:32.390
enough, was like the sound of the voice of God.

00:27:32.750 --> 00:27:35.589
So I was kind of tripping out by that. I'm watching

00:27:35.589 --> 00:27:39.109
this thinking this is crazy to me. And then of

00:27:39.109 --> 00:27:41.730
course, there's a very long story, but I brought

00:27:41.730 --> 00:27:45.769
it up because of the pig. So the pig in this

00:27:45.769 --> 00:27:50.109
Asia story used to be like a high spiritual or

00:27:50.109 --> 00:27:53.369
angelic being in heaven that was cast down, kind

00:27:53.369 --> 00:27:55.710
of like when Lucifer was cast down from heaven

00:27:55.710 --> 00:27:59.250
kind of thing. And he was cast down and the pig

00:27:59.250 --> 00:28:02.369
is part of this whole story and how it involves

00:28:02.369 --> 00:28:06.150
pearls. And he's basically is a demon at this

00:28:06.150 --> 00:28:08.349
point. And do you remember how in the Bible,

00:28:08.390 --> 00:28:10.829
I think it was Jesus who cast out these demons

00:28:10.829 --> 00:28:12.569
and put them into pigs. Do you remember that

00:28:12.569 --> 00:28:16.849
story? Yeah. 2000 swine. And then they ran down

00:28:16.849 --> 00:28:20.250
a hill and drowned in the sea. Yeah. I wonder,

00:28:21.029 --> 00:28:24.029
I'm no Bible scholar either, but I wonder this.

00:28:24.170 --> 00:28:26.849
Back in those days, we're talking a couple thousand

00:28:26.849 --> 00:28:30.849
years ago and beyond, the world was a bigger

00:28:30.849 --> 00:28:33.430
place. In other words, it wasn't as easy to travel,

00:28:33.450 --> 00:28:37.269
but there was travel. the Middle East area that

00:28:37.269 --> 00:28:42.369
we refer to as as where Jesus was and the Apostles

00:28:42.369 --> 00:28:45.170
and we know that they also traveled into areas

00:28:45.170 --> 00:28:49.089
we would now call Europe Asia's basically right

00:28:49.089 --> 00:28:51.990
next door there's no reason why there couldn't

00:28:51.990 --> 00:28:56.650
have been travel back and forth and some of these

00:28:56.650 --> 00:29:01.430
sayings like not casting your pearls before swine

00:29:01.430 --> 00:29:06.670
I don't know maybe that originated in Asia or

00:29:06.670 --> 00:29:09.430
maybe it went the other way around we don't know

00:29:09.430 --> 00:29:12.670
and frankly just because Jesus said it doesn't

00:29:12.670 --> 00:29:15.490
mean he's the very first human being to ever

00:29:15.490 --> 00:29:19.390
say it now that may be controversial it shouldn't

00:29:19.390 --> 00:29:23.329
be okay so please give that one a rest if people

00:29:23.329 --> 00:29:25.750
are worried about that one I have a question

00:29:25.750 --> 00:29:28.369
okay so you mentioned you remembered seeing the

00:29:28.369 --> 00:29:30.450
hand of God which you didn't talk about before

00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:35.220
I want to understand how seeing that hand, this

00:29:35.220 --> 00:29:40.140
gigantic hand relates to how you felt like you

00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:43.680
saw him as more of a rushing river. How does

00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.660
a river have a hand? How does that work? That's

00:29:46.660 --> 00:29:49.559
something that I reflected on too, because yes,

00:29:49.819 --> 00:29:53.140
he's this massive river of different colors and

00:29:53.140 --> 00:29:55.039
light and all these different things and mostly

00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:59.380
information and extremely deep wisdom. And then

00:29:59.380 --> 00:30:04.200
all of a sudden, remember when I in the NDE that

00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:06.640
I actually was able to come back which was kind

00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:09.059
of shocking because my whole experience felt

00:30:09.059 --> 00:30:11.200
like you ain't never coming back and I don't

00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.619
know what changed to be honest I have no idea

00:30:13.619 --> 00:30:17.319
what changed to to bring me back unless it was

00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:21.000
the baptism in God itself because throughout

00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:24.579
the journey I noticed that I kept feeling like

00:30:24.579 --> 00:30:27.440
I was leaving more and more In fact, one of the

00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:29.079
parts that I remembered in the journey that I'd

00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:32.019
also forgotten about that has to do with the

00:30:32.019 --> 00:30:37.079
hand thing is I was leaving my body. I felt a

00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.059
tug and I noticed that I had almost like a string

00:30:41.059 --> 00:30:44.440
attached to me or I was tethered is what it felt

00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:46.619
like. And it seemed to be tethered to my abdomen,

00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:49.200
which I find interesting because we have our

00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:50.980
belly button. And when we were babies, we had

00:30:50.980 --> 00:30:54.559
the umbilical cord and I was tethered to my physical

00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.200
body, you know, on planet Earth. because I was

00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.700
actually able to see her. I noticed that through

00:31:00.700 --> 00:31:04.500
that attachment to my body, I could feel my attachments

00:31:04.500 --> 00:31:07.259
to everybody that I loved and cared about. So

00:31:07.259 --> 00:31:09.839
I felt all my attachments to like my parents

00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.819
and, you know, friends and family. Basically,

00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:15.420
you felt for whatever reason, just a lot of love.

00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:17.900
But I didn't I didn't I had forgotten kind of

00:31:17.900 --> 00:31:21.319
about the string and that tether and that I had

00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:25.599
to release it and in a way release them. I don't

00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:27.240
know if you've ever heard that in some people's

00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:29.599
NDS, maybe that is one thing maybe I can relate

00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.740
with others, is that you have to release the

00:31:32.740 --> 00:31:34.539
people that you love and care about. Because

00:31:34.539 --> 00:31:37.299
if you hold on too much, it could potentially

00:31:37.299 --> 00:31:40.140
cause certain things, issues. And then of course,

00:31:40.339 --> 00:31:42.700
once I went away, when I got the chance to be

00:31:42.700 --> 00:31:45.759
in God, if that was why I got the chance to return,

00:31:46.660 --> 00:31:49.359
when I returned, ironically, that's when I saw

00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.140
his hand. I didn't see his hand until I returned.

00:31:52.500 --> 00:31:56.240
And I began to open my eyes which is another

00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.039
part that I realized about the story was, we

00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.000
appear to have a whole different set of eyes

00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.759
that we're unaware of. I call them our light

00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.900
eyes. And we have ears too. And it's interesting,

00:32:07.980 --> 00:32:09.819
again, I'm not trying to refer to this book a

00:32:09.819 --> 00:32:12.259
lot, and I have no interest in trying to promote

00:32:12.259 --> 00:32:14.180
it either. And by the way, look, they always

00:32:14.180 --> 00:32:15.920
wanted to sell it for $1, by the way. So they

00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.500
weren't, all the money was just to print more

00:32:18.500 --> 00:32:20.339
books. The guy never wanted to make a profit.

00:32:20.380 --> 00:32:22.859
He released it on his death bed, because he knew

00:32:22.859 --> 00:32:25.279
how controversial it would be. but one of the

00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:27.440
interesting things that he writes in here in

00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.299
regards to the eyes of light and well it's not

00:32:30.299 --> 00:32:32.900
him writing it's he's translating Jesus's words

00:32:32.900 --> 00:32:35.799
we do have this whole other set of eyes and Jesus

00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:39.000
talks about it in this book and he describes

00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.940
exactly what I experienced so I came back to

00:32:41.940 --> 00:32:44.700
quote unquote earth but I was able to open up

00:32:44.700 --> 00:32:47.200
these other eyes and I was able to open up these

00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:50.539
other ears and then I saw what the scriptures

00:32:50.539 --> 00:32:54.660
called the kingdom of of God I saw a kingdom

00:32:54.660 --> 00:32:57.700
that I couldn't see before and it's right here.

00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:02.240
The crazy part is it's here on earth. And ironically,

00:33:02.259 --> 00:33:05.180
it's in nature. I'm sure you know even from reading

00:33:05.180 --> 00:33:07.059
the scriptures that what would Jesus do when

00:33:07.059 --> 00:33:09.099
he wanted to be close to God? He would go out

00:33:09.099 --> 00:33:11.640
alone into the wilderness, right? That's what

00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:14.359
he would do, which is what I was. I was out alone

00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:16.759
in the wilderness. And when I opened my eyes,

00:33:17.140 --> 00:33:20.220
everything looked so different and it was so

00:33:20.220 --> 00:33:23.109
beautiful. that I could see him in like everything.

00:33:23.769 --> 00:33:27.170
I could see him in the leaves, the wind itself,

00:33:27.309 --> 00:33:29.470
the light, the rocks, the river, because that's

00:33:29.470 --> 00:33:33.609
where I was. And that's when, as you know from

00:33:33.609 --> 00:33:35.970
the previous story, obviously my brother eventually

00:33:35.970 --> 00:33:38.950
came over. He saw me. He thought I was dead.

00:33:39.390 --> 00:33:42.210
He saw me on the rock for like three, four hours

00:33:42.210 --> 00:33:44.410
or something like that, he said. And I wasn't

00:33:44.410 --> 00:33:46.670
moving for all that time. He was worried about

00:33:46.670 --> 00:33:50.309
me. But eventually when he came over, And then

00:33:50.309 --> 00:33:53.230
God showed up. Which is another thing I didn't

00:33:53.230 --> 00:33:55.690
think about, Eric, that a couple people mentioned.

00:33:55.769 --> 00:33:58.690
They said, do you realize having a witness is

00:33:58.690 --> 00:34:00.690
something that Jesus spoke about in the scriptures?

00:34:01.609 --> 00:34:03.589
So they pointed out to me the fact that this

00:34:03.589 --> 00:34:06.049
is a very big deal. I'm not somebody just saying,

00:34:06.150 --> 00:34:09.409
oh, I saw God and I was all by myself. There

00:34:09.409 --> 00:34:12.449
was a witness there. We both. experiences. And

00:34:12.449 --> 00:34:14.349
by the way, we're both willing to take lie detector

00:34:14.349 --> 00:34:17.309
tests, you know, if this really ends up going

00:34:17.309 --> 00:34:19.329
farther because there's a lot of information

00:34:19.329 --> 00:34:22.670
and to bring and even since we spoke, as you

00:34:22.670 --> 00:34:24.610
know, we were talking even offline about a lot

00:34:24.610 --> 00:34:27.070
of the things that I mean, unrolling like a scroll

00:34:27.070 --> 00:34:30.630
of information. And so my brother was there and

00:34:30.630 --> 00:34:33.309
we both experienced them and spend time with

00:34:33.309 --> 00:34:36.429
them. And that's when we saw the hand. So it

00:34:36.429 --> 00:34:38.090
wasn't just me that saw it, by the way, my brother

00:34:38.090 --> 00:34:41.380
saw it too. And I don't understand why we would

00:34:41.380 --> 00:34:44.460
see his hand and it was above earth like it was

00:34:44.460 --> 00:34:48.500
above us and it was um massive it was so big

00:34:48.500 --> 00:34:51.219
and so it's strange that it would take the form

00:34:51.219 --> 00:34:54.460
of a hand but then again if you think about water

00:34:54.460 --> 00:34:57.940
water can take any shape or form really i mean

00:34:57.940 --> 00:34:59.719
we're primarily made of water and we're made

00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:03.760
in god's image and we have this hand i was just

00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:07.019
gonna say that we are primarily water aren't

00:35:07.019 --> 00:35:11.630
we yeah Boy, gee, all of a sudden the song, he's

00:35:11.630 --> 00:35:13.969
got the whole world in his hand comes to mind.

00:35:14.110 --> 00:35:16.170
Go ahead and sing it, Greg. I'm not going to.

00:35:16.690 --> 00:35:18.449
You know, it's funny that you say that, you know,

00:35:18.489 --> 00:35:21.690
he's got the whole world in his hand. It's funny.

00:35:21.889 --> 00:35:24.849
I was invited to a radio show that I did recently.

00:35:25.150 --> 00:35:28.889
It was a Christian radio show. And the guy says

00:35:28.889 --> 00:35:31.929
that he receives messages through songs. And

00:35:31.929 --> 00:35:33.469
I believe it. You know, it's funny. You just

00:35:33.469 --> 00:35:36.170
got that one. And I feel like I don't know why

00:35:36.170 --> 00:35:38.929
I feel like God works through through music in

00:35:38.929 --> 00:35:41.650
positive ways. Music can speak to all of us.

00:35:42.210 --> 00:35:45.329
And why? Well, there is a frequency and a sound,

00:35:45.510 --> 00:35:48.409
right? And a rhythm in these songs. And sometimes

00:35:48.409 --> 00:35:51.269
they allow things to penetrate our heart in a

00:35:51.269 --> 00:35:52.929
different way than if somebody just said it.

00:35:53.170 --> 00:35:55.210
They can just say, I love you. Or if the lyrics

00:35:55.210 --> 00:35:58.349
say it just right, you feel it. Music makes you

00:35:58.349 --> 00:36:01.190
cry sometimes and makes you emotional. It goes

00:36:01.190 --> 00:36:03.530
back to what I said earlier. It's not just the

00:36:03.530 --> 00:36:05.809
words. It's the feeling that you remember the

00:36:05.809 --> 00:36:08.780
most. And the feeling can help you understand

00:36:08.780 --> 00:36:11.860
the words more, too. That's a beautiful point,

00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.719
Eric. I completely agree. I was just saying that

00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.679
the guy from that show, if anybody wants to look

00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:20.239
at his name is Trapper Jack, but that guy said

00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.519
that he receives all this stuff in music and

00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.840
he receives certain songs before the show we

00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.639
did and he didn't even know who I was. And the

00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.059
songs. We're saying some very interesting things

00:36:31.059 --> 00:36:33.239
that lined up with the story, too. We were all

00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.260
blown away by it. It's funny that you mentioned

00:36:35.260 --> 00:36:37.340
that one, too. Very cool. All right. What are

00:36:37.340 --> 00:36:39.599
some of the other things that you either remember

00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:43.219
or have learned since we last spoke? Well, I

00:36:43.219 --> 00:36:46.019
think the biggest ones, like I was saying, one

00:36:46.019 --> 00:36:49.659
is that the sound aspect of it, the fact that

00:36:49.659 --> 00:36:53.500
I feel like a lot of the stuff that has began

00:36:53.500 --> 00:36:56.599
to be shown to me, I was a little surprised.

00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:00.409
And you and I talked about this. How the scriptures

00:37:00.409 --> 00:37:04.050
are coming into play and how these scriptural

00:37:04.050 --> 00:37:06.730
I I think the thing I can say is I think that

00:37:06.730 --> 00:37:09.590
we can learn more and what I mean learn more

00:37:09.590 --> 00:37:13.429
is Honestly trying to understand Jesus more and

00:37:13.429 --> 00:37:17.250
understand things that he tried to leave for

00:37:17.250 --> 00:37:20.869
us that Potentially take time. I don't know if

00:37:20.869 --> 00:37:22.510
you did you ever notice a Bible verse. There's

00:37:22.510 --> 00:37:25.710
a Bible verse that says something like Interpretation

00:37:25.710 --> 00:37:28.760
of the scriptures is not up to man interpretation

00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:32.159
of scriptures is up to God and I started noticing

00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.179
even for myself because again I'm not a Bible

00:37:34.179 --> 00:37:37.300
scholar and I was talking to a Bible scholar

00:37:37.300 --> 00:37:39.659
actually that reached out to me we've been talking

00:37:39.659 --> 00:37:42.659
a lot because sometimes things are revealed to

00:37:42.659 --> 00:37:45.460
me and brought to me and then it's really good

00:37:45.460 --> 00:37:47.239
to reflect with somebody who can go back and

00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.599
look at the Aramaic the Hebrew and the Greek

00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:52.059
I think from what I'm seeing is that the scriptures

00:37:52.059 --> 00:37:54.079
really appear to be really multi -dimensional

00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:56.539
there is a lot more to learn. Sometimes it's

00:37:56.539 --> 00:37:59.019
not as two -dimensional as we'd like to make

00:37:59.019 --> 00:38:01.840
it out to be in my opinion. Yeah and you mentioned

00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:05.320
those languages and that goes also back to translations.

00:38:05.980 --> 00:38:08.539
Is everything in the Bible translated perfectly

00:38:08.539 --> 00:38:12.380
into English that we understand in the 21st century?

00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:17.800
You know maybe not. The nice thing is there are

00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:21.119
various translations out there right now. From

00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:23.800
someone who grew up with King James version.

00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:27.739
There's also other versions now that can clarify

00:38:27.739 --> 00:38:31.000
some things a little bit more So we have to be

00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:35.860
careful about some little Details because a translated

00:38:35.860 --> 00:38:39.659
word off just a little bit can change a meeting

00:38:39.659 --> 00:38:44.360
greatly and To me it just goes back to how do

00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.440
we know the truth? Things like the Bible read

00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:49.500
the book of Mark. It's right in there the Holy

00:38:49.500 --> 00:38:52.780
Spirit That's how we do it. That's the teacher.

00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:56.239
And that helps us know what's true and not. And

00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:59.659
I promised you I didn't want to go down a whole

00:38:59.659 --> 00:39:02.719
Bible path today. So I'm the one that keeps getting

00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:06.159
off into it. It's not you. But I think these

00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:09.880
things are super interesting. And I have also

00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:13.719
found with talking to so many experiencers over

00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:17.440
the years is that I think some of the things

00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:21.179
that people see in their NDEs, and this may or

00:39:21.179 --> 00:39:26.139
may not apply to you, are symbolic. A river of

00:39:26.139 --> 00:39:30.199
water may be symbolic. Does God actually look

00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:33.579
like a river? I don't know, but the symbolism

00:39:33.579 --> 00:39:36.900
of that is very strong. And there are lots of

00:39:36.900 --> 00:39:39.760
things in scripture Jesus taught in parables.

00:39:40.139 --> 00:39:43.000
for this very reason. He didn't lay everything

00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:47.760
out as specifically A, B, C, D, and he even explained

00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.619
why. Right? So the unrighteous people wouldn't

00:39:51.619 --> 00:39:54.159
really understand it. It's okay. And you know,

00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.619
it's funny about that comment too is I never

00:39:56.619 --> 00:39:59.300
expected to fall in love with water. You know,

00:39:59.300 --> 00:40:01.039
I think a lot of people take water for granted.

00:40:01.099 --> 00:40:03.780
You wash your hands, you take a shower, you don't

00:40:03.780 --> 00:40:06.360
think much of it. Since that experience, I've...

00:40:06.300 --> 00:40:09.880
highly fallen in love with water and even utilized

00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.079
it. I had a lot of medical problems and learned

00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:14.599
so much about water. It's one of the reasons

00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.480
I'm here in Japan. The Japanese are masterful

00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:20.820
when it comes to water. I actually ran into a

00:40:20.820 --> 00:40:23.980
guy who happens to know a scientist who's studying

00:40:23.980 --> 00:40:25.840
it, which is a really great connection for me

00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:29.500
because these are the things how water can affect

00:40:29.500 --> 00:40:32.869
us. in our health, even going down the Christian

00:40:32.869 --> 00:40:34.349
path, you know, like the most, there's a really

00:40:34.349 --> 00:40:36.110
interesting story here in Japan about a woman

00:40:36.110 --> 00:40:39.230
who was really sick and she drank the water from

00:40:39.230 --> 00:40:41.750
Lourdes, remember Lourdes, France? Oh, you don't

00:40:41.750 --> 00:40:44.210
know Lourdes? Wow, so you're, if anybody hasn't

00:40:44.210 --> 00:40:45.690
heard about this, you really should look into

00:40:45.690 --> 00:40:48.610
this. Tell me the name of it again. Lourdes,

00:40:48.710 --> 00:40:50.789
France, or some people call it Lourdes, France,

00:40:51.010 --> 00:40:54.210
depending on the pronunciation. Okay, thank you.

00:40:54.489 --> 00:40:57.230
I have heard of that. I just misheard you the

00:40:57.230 --> 00:40:59.920
first time. You know, these connections from

00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:02.460
thousands of miles away aren't perfect. Okay,

00:41:02.460 --> 00:41:05.320
go ahead. So this has been a really strange thing

00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:07.579
that happened, you know, in regards to the NDE

00:41:07.579 --> 00:41:11.420
also and water is that there was this woman,

00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.119
they might call her an apparition. Some people

00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.920
think it was the Virgin Mary, you know, this

00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:19.260
woman of light kind of like what appeared to

00:41:19.260 --> 00:41:21.840
me too. She appeared in Lourdes, France in front

00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.019
of children, some children, right? And it was

00:41:25.019 --> 00:41:28.610
supposed to be these healing waters. And ironically,

00:41:29.690 --> 00:41:33.030
there's a man in Japan that had a child that

00:41:33.030 --> 00:41:37.469
was born sick and he developed with through Japanese

00:41:37.469 --> 00:41:41.570
technology, a device. And it's the device I use

00:41:41.570 --> 00:41:43.650
to overcome my medical issues, I think you know.

00:41:44.329 --> 00:41:46.349
But he developed this device and he named it

00:41:46.349 --> 00:41:49.489
the Lord's Hydrofix is what he called it. The

00:41:49.489 --> 00:41:53.210
website is called Holy Hydrogen. But he developed

00:41:53.210 --> 00:41:56.769
this device mimicking the water of Lourdes, France,

00:41:56.969 --> 00:41:58.630
because they discovered that that water has,

00:41:58.630 --> 00:42:01.269
you know, special properties to it. So he builds

00:42:01.269 --> 00:42:03.170
this device and then of course his daughter,

00:42:03.309 --> 00:42:05.289
who was supposed to die like by the age of three

00:42:05.289 --> 00:42:07.769
or something, she's still alive and she's like

00:42:07.769 --> 00:42:09.710
18 years old now. She's an absolute miracle.

00:42:09.969 --> 00:42:12.269
Nobody with the severity of her medical issues

00:42:12.269 --> 00:42:14.110
has ever lived that long. She's the only person

00:42:14.110 --> 00:42:17.289
in the history, you know, of mankind right now,

00:42:17.309 --> 00:42:20.909
which is very phenomenal. But the key point is

00:42:20.909 --> 00:42:23.309
because Jesus taught so much about love right

00:42:23.309 --> 00:42:25.550
remember when he was asked like what's the most

00:42:25.550 --> 00:42:28.230
important teaching of all your teachings if You

00:42:28.230 --> 00:42:30.170
can narrow it down in like one sentence. He said

00:42:30.170 --> 00:42:33.949
love one another as I have loved you Yeah, and

00:42:33.949 --> 00:42:36.829
love God and love your neighbor Yeah, and love

00:42:36.829 --> 00:42:39.210
seems to be obviously this very key component

00:42:39.210 --> 00:42:42.659
and so this man from what I learned later because

00:42:42.659 --> 00:42:44.840
I was so grateful for his device because of what

00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:46.980
it's done for me. It saved my life because I'm

00:42:46.980 --> 00:42:48.460
not even supposed to be alive right now either.

00:42:48.619 --> 00:42:52.539
I had because of the NDE, which I OD'd, if people

00:42:52.539 --> 00:42:55.380
remember the story, I had taken a very large

00:42:55.380 --> 00:42:57.260
amount of pharmaceuticals that I shouldn't have

00:42:57.260 --> 00:43:00.679
taken and it damaged my body, damaged my heart

00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:03.159
and this guy's little device. So that's how I

00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:05.260
found out. I dug into it and I found I didn't

00:43:05.260 --> 00:43:06.860
know the story. I didn't know that this guy had

00:43:06.860 --> 00:43:10.019
created it. And then I stumbled upon the story

00:43:10.019 --> 00:43:14.139
of this woman. who was saved by Lord's water

00:43:14.139 --> 00:43:18.119
in Japan and she became Catholic. And she became

00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:21.260
a huge proponent of Christianity in Japan. In

00:43:21.260 --> 00:43:23.079
fact, she just finally passed away. This has

00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:25.340
been a very long story that's been going on for

00:43:25.340 --> 00:43:27.900
decades. And she just passed away like a year

00:43:27.900 --> 00:43:30.500
or two ago. And I recently, I didn't even know

00:43:30.500 --> 00:43:33.280
her story either. And I watched her story and

00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:35.400
it was absolutely phenomenal. And how this all

00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:39.360
relates to Lord's and water and even France,

00:43:39.420 --> 00:43:43.199
which is a source of the Lord's spring. Right.

00:43:43.739 --> 00:43:46.139
Supposed to be an apparition of the Virgin Mary,

00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.619
if I remember right. So people pilgrim from all

00:43:49.619 --> 00:43:52.699
over the world for healing at this fountain.

00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.280
And see, that's the thing, Eric, right? They

00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.840
say it's the Virgin Mary, right? It was a woman

00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:01.099
made of light. And in the end, it's probably

00:44:01.099 --> 00:44:03.760
all the same thing, but we're all just trying

00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:06.179
to come up with words. We say it in different

00:44:06.179 --> 00:44:10.360
ways. Here's something that That you can be thinking

00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:12.719
about over the next year and report back to me

00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:16.000
next time and that is the relationship between

00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.519
a few different things You've talked about the

00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.519
sound that God in this council. We're making

00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:26.340
We've talked about music. You've talked about

00:44:26.340 --> 00:44:29.219
the a little bit about the frequency of sound

00:44:29.219 --> 00:44:31.320
I don't know if you use the term frequency or

00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:35.320
not and a lot of people tell me after their NDEs

00:44:35.710 --> 00:44:39.389
they relate to quantum physics, which a lot of

00:44:39.389 --> 00:44:41.869
that has to do with frequency and vibration and

00:44:41.869 --> 00:44:44.329
things like that. I've been trying to figure

00:44:44.329 --> 00:44:47.809
out how to put all of this together. So as soon

00:44:47.809 --> 00:44:50.329
as somebody can do that and tie it up in a little

00:44:50.329 --> 00:44:54.349
bow in one paragraph, I'm all ears. Well, I think

00:44:54.349 --> 00:44:57.210
I already can. This is what's interesting because

00:44:57.210 --> 00:44:59.550
this has been the culmination of what's been

00:44:59.550 --> 00:45:01.809
happening after my NDE is explaining what you

00:45:01.809 --> 00:45:05.719
just asked. So everything has a frequency. everything

00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.519
has a vibration. What's unique about this Lord's

00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:12.000
water is hydrogen. Hence the reason my name is

00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.579
the hydrogen man, right? Because hydrogen appears

00:45:15.579 --> 00:45:19.239
to be the purest substance known to man. So full

00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.219
of energy. Personally, I think it relates. Maybe

00:45:22.219 --> 00:45:24.739
that's why the guy named it the Lord's, the device

00:45:24.739 --> 00:45:27.739
he made the Lord's Hydrofix, because Lord's France,

00:45:27.980 --> 00:45:30.579
that water, the apparition that appeared the

00:45:30.579 --> 00:45:33.760
Virgin Mary was like light. So if you look at

00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:36.710
the light of the world, which we call our sun,

00:45:37.389 --> 00:45:39.449
or the star in the sky that we call the sun,

00:45:40.269 --> 00:45:42.650
do you realize that that thing in the sky is

00:45:42.650 --> 00:45:45.489
basically made of hydrogen? It's all hydrogen.

00:45:46.210 --> 00:45:50.429
Hydrogen has this unique vibration and frequency

00:45:50.429 --> 00:45:54.550
to it. And hydrogen is basically within all things.

00:45:54.730 --> 00:45:56.389
There's a reason that it's the first thing on

00:45:56.389 --> 00:45:59.230
the periodic table. So literally you're filled

00:45:59.230 --> 00:46:03.429
with hydrogen. And now granted, there's usually

00:46:03.429 --> 00:46:05.730
hydrogen the problem with hydrogen is look at

00:46:05.730 --> 00:46:09.550
water water is technically two gases and i discovered

00:46:09.550 --> 00:46:12.670
that even the tree of life and all this stuff

00:46:12.670 --> 00:46:16.630
in scripture has to do with water because if

00:46:16.630 --> 00:46:21.170
you look at water water is two things and these

00:46:21.170 --> 00:46:25.969
two things are gases hydrogen is a gas and oxygen

00:46:25.969 --> 00:46:28.750
is a gas so right now you're breathing the average

00:46:28.750 --> 00:46:31.699
person is breathing in roughly 20 oxygen depending

00:46:31.699 --> 00:46:34.500
on where they're on the planet in our atmosphere.

00:46:34.659 --> 00:46:36.619
So you have these two gases, but when they come

00:46:36.619 --> 00:46:40.619
together, they turn to water. And from water,

00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.099
this is where, when Jesus spoke to Nicodemus,

00:46:43.139 --> 00:46:46.300
for example, he said, you must be born again.

00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:48.780
And Nicodemus gets confused and he talks about

00:46:48.780 --> 00:46:51.039
going back into his mother. And if you think

00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.579
about it, when you were in your mother, you were

00:46:53.579 --> 00:46:57.079
in water, by the way, you know, her water breaks

00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.619
and we're all born of water the first time. But

00:47:00.619 --> 00:47:03.920
then he says you must be born again So now we're

00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:06.639
talking about doing it a second time and he talks

00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.679
about going into water He said, you know, you

00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:12.179
must be born of water is what he said remember

00:47:12.179 --> 00:47:15.900
and Spirit he said and spirit after that. Yeah,

00:47:15.900 --> 00:47:18.900
because he talks about two things He compares

00:47:18.900 --> 00:47:23.179
the water to flesh and he compares a spirit to

00:47:23.179 --> 00:47:26.599
the wind The wind is like a gas. We're breathing

00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:29.699
in the wind. We're breathing in the gas and so

00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.119
There's this correlation between all of it. And

00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:35.920
ultimately, hydrogen holds this vibration or

00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.000
frequency of life. Because without the sun in

00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:41.500
the sky, we have no life here on planet Earth.

00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:44.260
We need that light. Without that light, even

00:47:44.260 --> 00:47:45.780
if we had all the water we wanted, it doesn't

00:47:45.780 --> 00:47:50.039
matter. You need the light of our world in order

00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.199
for there to be life. Ultimately, what we're

00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.760
discovering by working with these recent scientists

00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:59.469
I met, because I made a discovery. And some of

00:47:59.469 --> 00:48:01.210
my discoveries and some of the Japanese discoveries.

00:48:01.349 --> 00:48:03.010
And by the way, some of these guys are French,

00:48:03.329 --> 00:48:05.210
so they're from France. Of all places that these

00:48:05.210 --> 00:48:07.349
guys could have been from and how it relates

00:48:07.349 --> 00:48:09.789
back to Lourdes again, they know all about Lourdes.

00:48:10.090 --> 00:48:13.070
And the spiritual aspect of Lourdes is quite

00:48:13.070 --> 00:48:15.610
profound. If people pull up the pictures and

00:48:15.610 --> 00:48:18.550
the grotto, it's beautiful. And even more recently,

00:48:18.630 --> 00:48:20.730
I never had any intention or even wanting to

00:48:20.730 --> 00:48:23.889
go there. I actually felt a very strong pull

00:48:23.889 --> 00:48:26.030
like I'm supposed to go there. And I was like,

00:48:26.130 --> 00:48:28.170
oh, now I gotta take this trip all the way out

00:48:28.170 --> 00:48:31.050
over there. So that'll probably be later when

00:48:31.050 --> 00:48:35.190
the timing is right. But the vibration, the frequency

00:48:35.190 --> 00:48:39.429
that you spoke of, water responds to frequency

00:48:39.429 --> 00:48:42.250
and vibration perfectly, if you've ever noticed.

00:48:42.349 --> 00:48:45.070
If you put a still cup of water in, you play,

00:48:45.469 --> 00:48:47.670
even if you talk in front of it, the water will

00:48:47.670 --> 00:48:50.920
pick up on that. And so vibration and frequency

00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.699
can hold emotion. That's why when, have you ever

00:48:53.699 --> 00:48:55.239
heard of someone meeting somebody and they say,

00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.059
I like your vibe? Like they like your vibration.

00:48:58.659 --> 00:49:01.880
They like your frequency. And when you're in

00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:05.119
a loving frequency or not such a loving frequency,

00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:08.000
and ultimately when the Japanese discover that

00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.179
water, and this is why I'm here in Japan too,

00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:13.780
because they discover that water appears to have

00:49:13.780 --> 00:49:17.559
memory. Are you aware of this? Don't think I've

00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:20.139
heard that one before but but I have seen some

00:49:20.139 --> 00:49:23.380
of these experiments and one of the ones I'm

00:49:23.380 --> 00:49:27.539
fascinated by And hold your thought is where

00:49:27.539 --> 00:49:31.659
they took water exposed it to what was it? Horrible

00:49:31.659 --> 00:49:35.360
music horrible negative hatred Kind of stuff

00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.280
and then froze it and you can actually see these

00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:41.000
patterns in it that are completely different

00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.400
Than water freezing exposed to all this good

00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:47.699
stuff Okay, finish what you're saying about memory

00:49:47.699 --> 00:49:50.559
and water. Well, that's literally exactly what

00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.739
I'm talking about. That work that you're speaking

00:49:52.739 --> 00:49:56.119
of comes from Japan. The man who discovered it

00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:59.900
was named Masaru Imoto. And he didn't just realize

00:49:59.900 --> 00:50:03.500
that water is affected by music. He also realized

00:50:03.500 --> 00:50:05.639
that water is affected by words, like if you

00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.730
just speak to it. He also discovered that the

00:50:08.730 --> 00:50:11.570
water was affected by thought thought itself

00:50:11.570 --> 00:50:14.050
just thinking to the water. There's a really

00:50:14.050 --> 00:50:16.690
interesting experiment They did well that totally

00:50:16.690 --> 00:50:18.849
makes sense to me because water doesn't have

00:50:18.849 --> 00:50:22.789
ears So, you know why wouldn't thought be as

00:50:22.789 --> 00:50:26.670
strong as saying something and the emotional

00:50:26.670 --> 00:50:30.250
state and Even pictures so you could put a picture

00:50:30.250 --> 00:50:32.670
on you know the water and even you could even

00:50:32.670 --> 00:50:36.329
write a word so interestingly enough I mean,

00:50:36.530 --> 00:50:39.949
not to bring it up again, but the Lord's device

00:50:39.949 --> 00:50:42.969
that this guy made, he put the words on the device,

00:50:43.110 --> 00:50:45.349
obviously the Lord's device, you know, these

00:50:45.349 --> 00:50:48.750
holy waters. And so that's how the water appears

00:50:48.750 --> 00:50:52.690
to have this type of reflective aspect to it

00:50:52.690 --> 00:50:56.469
where it reflects back the words, the thoughts,

00:50:56.909 --> 00:50:59.610
which ultimately seems to be what humans do.

00:50:59.929 --> 00:51:03.530
You know, we reflect back. That's why, what does

00:51:03.530 --> 00:51:06.449
the scripture say? As we do unto others, it's

00:51:06.449 --> 00:51:08.849
done unto you. There's like this reflexive aspect

00:51:08.849 --> 00:51:10.849
and we're obviously clearly made of water. Or

00:51:10.849 --> 00:51:14.150
the concept of karma, same thing. Same thing,

00:51:14.289 --> 00:51:17.050
different word, right? And this body of water

00:51:17.050 --> 00:51:20.349
that we inhabit, but we're creating sounds and

00:51:20.349 --> 00:51:22.889
frequencies, right? Through our, these vibrations

00:51:22.889 --> 00:51:26.269
in our vocal cords and how that relates again

00:51:26.269 --> 00:51:28.849
emotionally, how we can hurt others with our

00:51:28.849 --> 00:51:31.449
words. or how we can make people joyful with

00:51:31.449 --> 00:51:33.989
our words and all sorts of different things that

00:51:33.989 --> 00:51:36.730
we can do with these words. Now what we're beginning

00:51:36.730 --> 00:51:41.230
to realize is it appears that it's not just the

00:51:41.230 --> 00:51:45.690
water, Eric. It's the hydrogen within the water

00:51:45.690 --> 00:51:48.690
as the hydrogen is the majority of what makes

00:51:48.690 --> 00:51:53.030
up water anyway already. And so then that's taken

00:51:53.030 --> 00:51:55.349
things to another level. It's literally a technique

00:51:55.349 --> 00:51:58.349
that I use to try to find my way back out of

00:51:58.380 --> 00:52:00.840
my hellacious medical issues that I was dealing

00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.320
with. And the power of hydrogen, in fact, hydrogen's

00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:06.099
so powerful, have you ever heard, and I hate

00:52:06.099 --> 00:52:07.380
to use these words, but have you ever heard of

00:52:07.380 --> 00:52:09.480
the oxygen bomb? You've never heard of that,

00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:11.739
but you've heard of the hydrogen bomb. And the

00:52:11.739 --> 00:52:14.380
reason they use hydrogen, which anything with

00:52:14.380 --> 00:52:18.019
power can be used for good or evil. And so hydrogen

00:52:18.019 --> 00:52:22.480
has a massive amount of energy and power, hence

00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.000
the reason the sun that has massive amounts of

00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:29.630
energy. and how that relates to the human body

00:52:29.630 --> 00:52:33.309
and even our ability to produce hydrogen. So

00:52:33.309 --> 00:52:35.730
that's another interesting one. We breathe in

00:52:35.730 --> 00:52:38.170
oxygen from the outside. You're breathing in

00:52:38.170 --> 00:52:41.809
20 % oxygen. But hydrogen, you're actually producing

00:52:41.809 --> 00:52:45.550
it in your body. And what happens is as you age,

00:52:45.550 --> 00:52:47.409
it's one of the things that seems to be correlated

00:52:47.409 --> 00:52:49.710
with a lot of these health issues. Because the

00:52:49.710 --> 00:52:52.269
Japanese have discovered the magic of hydrogen

00:52:52.269 --> 00:52:56.570
and they're using it medically. So it's literally

00:52:56.570 --> 00:52:59.929
medically used here, but they don't medically

00:52:59.929 --> 00:53:03.349
use it in the US in hospitals. But in Japan,

00:53:03.349 --> 00:53:06.250
they're using it in roughly 30 university hospitals.

00:53:06.750 --> 00:53:09.269
I even got lucky to get in contact with another

00:53:09.269 --> 00:53:13.429
hydrogen physician in Japan and even a neurosurgeon.

00:53:13.730 --> 00:53:15.710
And it's amazing the things that they can do

00:53:15.710 --> 00:53:19.789
with this magical gas that seems to be related

00:53:19.789 --> 00:53:23.710
to Lourdes and this apparition, the Virgin Mary

00:53:23.710 --> 00:53:26.329
and this being of light. And so it's funny how

00:53:26.329 --> 00:53:29.550
it all really comes together. It's interesting.

00:53:29.630 --> 00:53:32.849
And the fact that hydrogen can also be used as

00:53:32.849 --> 00:53:37.650
a fuel, completely clean burning fuel. And it's

00:53:37.650 --> 00:53:41.550
also a super volatile thing when it's all by

00:53:41.550 --> 00:53:44.949
itself, just hydrogen without the oxygen. It's

00:53:44.949 --> 00:53:48.309
a super volatile thing. We've got to wrap up

00:53:48.309 --> 00:53:51.670
and we went down this hydrogen rabbit hole that

00:53:51.670 --> 00:53:56.980
I didn't mean to. All I know is When I put myself

00:53:56.980 --> 00:54:02.619
in the ocean with h2o and salt and other Minerals

00:54:02.619 --> 00:54:06.900
of this world clean pure things. I feel healthier.

00:54:06.940 --> 00:54:10.980
I feel better I could just spend all day doing

00:54:10.980 --> 00:54:15.230
that and come out feeling just You know, the

00:54:15.230 --> 00:54:18.369
old saying, feel like a new man. There's so much

00:54:18.369 --> 00:54:21.050
truth to that. There's so much healing that goes

00:54:21.050 --> 00:54:24.090
on with it. But I would like to get back to what

00:54:24.090 --> 00:54:26.309
the point of this whole podcast is about, which

00:54:26.309 --> 00:54:29.409
is NDEs, what we learned from them. And I want

00:54:29.409 --> 00:54:32.150
to give you the final thought here. And that

00:54:32.150 --> 00:54:35.690
is tell us why the things that you've learned

00:54:35.690 --> 00:54:39.110
and the things that others learn from these experiences

00:54:39.110 --> 00:54:44.860
should give us hope and should make us Feel some

00:54:44.860 --> 00:54:49.940
joy and some oh just feel good today in the in

00:54:49.940 --> 00:54:51.940
a world where that's not made for you to feel

00:54:51.940 --> 00:54:55.659
good every day I know I think the first thing

00:54:55.659 --> 00:54:59.739
I would say is one I learned for me that God

00:54:59.739 --> 00:55:02.679
is definitely real Any doubt that I had it was

00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:04.219
it was one of the things that I experienced on

00:55:04.219 --> 00:55:07.000
my NDE When I came back and we saw his hand and

00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:10.139
all these things I felt every little doubt in

00:55:10.139 --> 00:55:13.019
me, which I never felt before I felt it down

00:55:13.019 --> 00:55:16.280
into my bones into my like the bone marrow. I

00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:19.400
felt all my doubt leave and I feel very fortunate

00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:20.960
for that. You know, I feel very lucky because

00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:22.900
I know that the average person doesn't get to

00:55:22.900 --> 00:55:26.039
meet quote unquote God. And so I felt all my

00:55:26.039 --> 00:55:27.860
doubt go away and that's always been a sense

00:55:27.860 --> 00:55:30.420
of comfort for me. I feel that the scriptures

00:55:30.420 --> 00:55:32.420
are absolutely correct when it says God judges

00:55:32.420 --> 00:55:34.260
the heart because that's the other thing that

00:55:34.260 --> 00:55:36.780
I really learned is that he's going to look at

00:55:36.780 --> 00:55:38.380
your heart. He's not going to look at every little

00:55:38.380 --> 00:55:41.179
mistake you made in life and judge you for that.

00:55:41.690 --> 00:55:44.469
As far as I saw this is Megan just my experience

00:55:44.469 --> 00:55:47.869
I saw that he really judges the heart and yeah,

00:55:47.869 --> 00:55:50.510
we make mistakes and we do all this stuff Learning

00:55:50.510 --> 00:55:52.550
those experiences that caused me to live my life

00:55:52.550 --> 00:55:54.730
a very different way and it's one of the reasons

00:55:54.730 --> 00:55:57.769
I completely operate in a very different way

00:55:57.769 --> 00:56:00.530
now and I always go into my heart and I always

00:56:00.530 --> 00:56:03.630
think about others You know a great deal as if

00:56:03.630 --> 00:56:05.929
they were me just the whole as you do unto others

00:56:05.929 --> 00:56:08.250
And so that changed a lot and then this whole

00:56:08.250 --> 00:56:10.590
experience and then falling in love with water

00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:13.199
even realizing how it affects children. You know,

00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:14.820
you mentioned minerals, by the way, and hydrogen

00:56:14.820 --> 00:56:17.599
appears to work in a very special way with minerals,

00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:19.360
which is interesting that you had brought that

00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:22.340
up. And I forgot to mention that. But but I learned

00:56:22.340 --> 00:56:25.440
a lot about how water affects children. And I

00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.360
hope I teach a lot about that on my YouTube channel.

00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:29.679
People want to check it out because the name

00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:33.739
of it is called Uprising 144 K. I realized so

00:56:33.739 --> 00:56:36.619
much about the contaminants in our water. I didn't

00:56:36.619 --> 00:56:38.619
talk a lot about the messages that I received

00:56:38.619 --> 00:56:40.980
from the Almighty. about water, which is kind

00:56:40.980 --> 00:56:42.880
of odd. I didn't go into that one in great detail

00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:46.059
either. How the purity is such an important thing.

00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:48.820
I didn't realize that the impurities in water

00:56:48.820 --> 00:56:51.880
affect children the most. And it brings me to

00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:54.219
that Bible verse where Jesus kind of talks about

00:56:54.219 --> 00:56:57.300
how basically you really don't want to be harming

00:56:57.300 --> 00:57:00.659
kids. Children are so precious and we should

00:57:00.659 --> 00:57:02.719
really love them a great deal and be good stewards

00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:04.539
to them. And so that's something that's also

00:57:04.539 --> 00:57:06.920
become very big on my journey. So those are the

00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:09.139
positive things that have come out. I learned

00:57:09.139 --> 00:57:11.460
a lot. I never thought about water as being something

00:57:11.460 --> 00:57:13.719
that important. And it's interesting that on

00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:16.199
the other side, I quote unquote baptized in what

00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:18.420
looked like water, and you know the whole adage,

00:57:18.500 --> 00:57:22.059
as above so below. And then what did Jesus show

00:57:22.059 --> 00:57:26.099
with John the Baptist? They put us in water,

00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:28.579
just like it appeared to be on the other side.

00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:30.739
And so this whole correlation between the other

00:57:30.739 --> 00:57:32.480
world and this world, the world of the flesh

00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:34.960
and the world of the spirit, and those are all

00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.380
the things that I took. you know, from the journey.

00:57:37.579 --> 00:57:40.519
And I hope to share with people in positive ways

00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:42.780
and hoping that, you know, whether it gives them

00:57:42.780 --> 00:57:45.840
hope or helps them find their way. And obviously,

00:57:45.860 --> 00:57:50.119
the big thing is medical issues in my journey.

00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:52.559
I learned so much that that's what I help people

00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.639
with now, too. You know, helping people as I've

00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:57.579
learned to help myself. And I feel like I got

00:57:57.579 --> 00:58:00.400
a lot of this knowledge from this NDE and this

00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:02.280
whole path. So I appreciate you allowing me to

00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:04.139
be able to share some of this, Eric, and I hope

00:58:04.139 --> 00:58:06.510
people really enjoyed it. I hope people can comment

00:58:06.510 --> 00:58:09.670
below and see what they get out of it. And yeah,

00:58:09.849 --> 00:58:12.489
only good things. You know, I like all the comments.

00:58:13.010 --> 00:58:15.690
Even if people don't like something I say, I

00:58:15.690 --> 00:58:19.070
don't mind. Just, just let's come at it in a

00:58:19.070 --> 00:58:22.150
positive way. It's okay to express your feelings.

00:58:22.150 --> 00:58:25.829
That is just fine. All right. Wow. Great stuff.

00:58:25.929 --> 00:58:28.090
Deep stuff. Good talking to you again, Greg.

00:58:28.170 --> 00:58:30.889
Keep in touch. Likewise, Eric. Nice talking to

00:58:30.889 --> 00:58:34.780
you again. Thanks again for listening and sharing

00:58:34.780 --> 00:58:37.079
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