Pedestrian Hit By Truck Leads To NDE, Life Review, Angel

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0:42 Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody and we have a fun guest coming to us today. All the way from Northern California, Trent John Miller. How are you Trent? Good morning Noah, I'm doing great, thank you. I appreciate you being on the show. You've had an amazing experience that people are going to love hearing about. Before we jump into it, let's let people get to know who you are. So give us a couple of minutes on your background. Okay, awesome. Kind of a mid -rostering transplant. I enjoyed being outdoors, hanging out with my friends. I was very athletic, involved in swimming, lifeguard, all that. A swimming instructor. I at one point in my life got involved in the film industry and that's an interesting story in itself and I'll be sure to bring that up. But all in all, I'm just a fun -loving guy and now California good and that's about it. You're being very modest. 30 plus years in the film industry you've been in front of the camera a lot. Your IMDB looks pretty cool and that's another time for a whole other podcast though. Give me an idea, how long ago was it that your NDE happened and what led up to it?

1:55 It was about 20 years ago, almost exactly really, 2000. I had some interesting premonitions right prior to the accident itself. One thing was waking up from a dream, a very clear dream of running into a white wall. And I remember waking up and saying, I'm going to live. And I knew I was going to live. but I realized that my DNA was scrambled and that I was going to be somewhat of a different person. That later came into fruition and there are other things, premonitions that I had when I was younger and things that as I led up to the actual accident, they now make sense. Why do you think you had a premonition? Did it somehow help you through the experience? Yeah, in a way it kind of in reverse it helped explain what I was experiencing and why I was going through some of the unusual steps in the process after a near -death experience. There were even times where I was living my life in reverse where I had already been provided insight into my future with clarity and then being able to relive it in the physical world. that people distinguish as maybe daydreaming or dreams, premonitions.

3:19 In a lot of cases, sometimes there's more behind those than just a possibility. Sometimes they become a reality. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry that yours did, I guess, because it sounded pretty horrific. Tell us what happened with the truck. Well, the day started off great. We had been filming out in the desert. This is at Stu Siegel Productions on Ruffin Road. And it was a career choice to be there because I really enjoyed working as a body double, stand in actor and stuntman. And every day was different. You never know what to expect, especially even when you know on the call sheet what you're going to be doing. Actors sometimes wouldn't show up or stuntmen wouldn't show up. And I was always the go to guy for for the show. And I never know when I was going to either be shot at or shoot at somebody or crash a car or jump in, roll a wig and jump off a roof and fight somebody. You know, always in an adrenaline rush and that I was able to do it for 30 years really made it exciting that every day was always a gift and something to be truly appreciated.

4:28 It really wasn't to have happened being in Ohio because there was just no filming there. And I was given the opportunity from another Eric, Eric Chabot. who was going to school in San Diego, and he allowed me the opportunity to go out to California. He invited me to stay with him to get my footing. I had always wanted to be out there by the ocean, out by the beach, and enjoying the beautiful weather that California's known for, and also the excitement of being in the film industry. As not to jump... too far back, but I would have never gotten into the film industry if it wasn't for a really kind down in Kim that I was dating at the time who wanted to be a model.

5:14 And she had set up an appointment with Betty McCormick and it was a creative talent management in Columbus, Ohio. So I said, I'll drive you. And I had a trans am at the time, a fibered formula and drove to drove her to the to this audition. And when I got there, Betty says, is this the young man? And I said, oh, no, no, no. This is for Kim. And Kim said, well, I kind of pulled a fast one on you, John. This is for you. I think you should be modeling and acting. And I told her, absolutely not. That's not a career choice for me. And Betty immediately said, well, how does $1 ,500 a day sound, John? And my jaw kind of opened up and I went, well. that I could get the new headers on my Firebird and I had all these ideas and plans. And I'm like, yeah, I could do this. So she said, well, we'll just get a headshot and I'll send you to auditions.

6:07 It's that simple. Well, I did that. And pretty soon I'm doing Burger King commercials and I'm doing commercials for Shell Oil and Lazarus, which was a local department store. And every time I'd show up at the audition, I would get the job. And so doors were opening, unconventionally were opening for me. left and right. And I found that kind of interesting where you're always battling it out in an audition. And it seemed like every time if I just showed up, I got the job. Getting back to Eric and him inviting me out to California, I didn't really have a lot of money to make this move to California, but I kind of sold everything and I had a bug convertible at the time. And I put together a meager amount, $452, $51 in my pocket. and prepared to make the drive. Most people were laughing at me. My friends were making fun of me and my family.

7:01 And you're not even going to make it, let alone survive in California. But I was really determined to make this happen. So I drove out. I was working at a record store at the time as a manager. And I had to let the owner know that I was going to walk away. I started the journey. I knew that time was not in my favor. So I needed to get to California as soon as possible and start working as soon as possible. I drove out. It kind of went pretty good. There was a problem in the desert. My bug overheated and I had to pull over by a cactus and hide and shade until it cooled down that night. But I did make it the following day into San Diego and met up with Eric. And I mean, they went to a mall bullocks men's store in San Diego. There's a. department store and got a job as a men's clothing salesman. So at least I had a job there to get started. And the following day I drove out to Stu Siegel Productions on Ruffin Road and they had a casting and I told them that I'd like to be in film. And in most cases they would just laugh at you because I had no resume other than some of the commercials I did in Ohio. The casting agent there I said, hey, you look a lot like Anthony Perkins. He's the gentleman from Psycho. He needs a body double for Monday and I need you to be there if you can start and be his body double. And I thought, oh my gosh, I'll leg up. And I didn't even know what a body double was, but I said, yeah, I will

8:33 be there and I'll do it. So I showed up early that day and we filmed at the same bar that Top Gun was filmed at, all the bar scenes. And it was so interesting to be there around the camera and all the equipment and the people and the actors. I was so excited. I was hooked. And I knew that, you know, this was going to be like a short term, month long opportunity. And I wanted to make as many friends as possible. So I always showed up early. I was willing to help everybody and did so. I'd help pull cable. I'd help with the camera crew and haul the big lens packages, whatever it took. Made my friends. And long story short, I ended up parlaying that opportunity into a 30 -year career. I'm very lucky to have enjoyed an extended career working with some of the biggest names like Burt Reynolds and Chuck Norris. I got to fight with him in a movie called Top Dog. Burt Reynolds, Jerry Lewis, Rick Springfield.

9:31 I was his body double. Rob Estes on Silk Stockings. That was a great group of individuals to work with. Pensacola, High Tide. All these shows were shows that were filmed at the studio. And so we were filming on this show called Manhattan Maze. And we had spent the week in the desert. We were back at the studio this day. And we had a whole bunch of animals that were being filmed inside the studio, including a large elephant, which was never that's the largest pachyderm largest animal living soul that had ever gone in the studio. And I happened to catch a photo of the elephant exiting. through the extras or the stage front and took a photograph which ended up being used for the studios advertising. And I was awful proud of that. So we get about a 45 minute, for me 45 minute break, the whole crew gets an hour, but I need to be back a couple of minutes early to work with the camera crew to set up for the next shot, for the next scene.

10:31 And this was a Friday right before 4th of July weekend. So I went out for a jog. I had my check in my pocket. I took off my shirt and I was a bodybuilder, so I wasn't bashful. And I did think it was just wearing my shorts and my tennis shoes. And I started to go for my run down to Claremont Mesa Boulevard and Ruffin Road. And at this time, there was no stoplights. Well, there was stoplights, but there was no traffic lights to allow you to cross at a safe point. You just pretty much made a beeline and hopefully nothing hits you. The weekend before 4th of July was I'm awful busy. So I'm going to make the move and I stopped and I went back and I'm, okay, hold on a minute. And I'm looking at the light and this Honda Accord pulls up with a bunch of young kids having a blast inside and they put their food all over the dash. I could see glasses and cups and straws.

11:20 And I'm thinking these people aren't even looking over to see I'm gonna go behind them just outside the crosswalk and continue my walk. And as I did that, I noticed a flash out of the corner of my left eye. and a white Ford pickup truck struck me going about 40 miles an hour and my body went through the windshield, my face lacerating. I had never been hit so hard and that is where I understand where the premonition of being hit by a white wall came into play because it was a white truck. It was a wall of energy and It did scramble me. It scrambled me so much. I went flying through the air, through the intersection.

12:02 People that were there, the witnesses and the police reports said that I went flying about 20 feet in the air. And as I was flying through the air, I was just above the middle of the intersection. I saw my perspective change from my eyes to an overview of me flying through the air. I could see myself upside down. with my head facing the pavement, about 20 feet up in the air, looking down at the gentleman and his windshield knocked out on his phone. So you're looking down on the scene of what's happening to you? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Looking down at the actual scene and out of body perspective. When that happens, does the pain and the shock automatically go away?

12:52 I never had pain. I never took any medications. I was prescribed all these pain relievers. I think it was something immaculate. I definitely had some angelic or God's hand in on my accident because there was a immaculate healing that occurred. My bones were mending at an incredible rate. The doctors wanted to interview me after I was run over. was quite embarrassed being a body double and stuff. I didn't really, I was embarrassed about the whole incident that occurred. Little did I know how much it would change my life and my perspective on life itself. But at the time you had to have felt that truck, right? And that impact. So there should be immediate pain from that, you would think. And then as you're looking down, is that all gone? That was what I was referring to. It was calming. It was as if I had entered a meditative state, yet I was completely aware of what was going on around me at a broader sense, not just through my human vision, but from a perspective outside of my body of everything around that it was all of a sudden I went from my point of view to a worldly point of view of everything that was going around and I was no longer directly connected to my physical body, I was a free soul. I was outside my body, having

14:23 an outer body experience. And as I was looking down, I just went up higher and higher until my perspective went to this white, mid white cloud. It was like a white room, white cloud that I was moving towards. As I was doing that, I could feel and see the darkness behind me. And darkness not as in like shaded darkness, but black, like void of love, void of all energy, the exact yin and yang, yin and yang of light versus darkness. And I could feel the presence behind me, though I was moving towards the light.

15:05 And that was my primary focus, though I had no choice of the direction I was going. I was moving towards the light. without any control or condition. It was just inevitable. And as I entered inside this white room, kind of felt like I was in a cloud because there was no floor, there was no ceiling. I could not see any definition beyond this wonderful, warm, loving light that was surrounding me. And then I noticed an angel standing directly to my right who was no further than six feet, like the most eight feet. from me and she was looking at me and she was somewhat transparent, yet she was glowing with light and I could see all of her features. She was pretty and she was about maybe five feet tall and I could not see her feet. She was floating and cloaked with like a transparent veil. and yet I could see her hair.

16:11 And again, she calmed me down immediately from the anxiousness that occurs when you're hit by a truck. She calmed me down and I immediately was comfortable in my surroundings and was able to start taking note of everything around me. And being that I was not unconscious and I was not on any medication of any type, I wasn't in the hospital, I was completely aware of everything around me. I was thinking, oh my goodness, I can hear her talking to me, her words. And I realized we were talking telepathically. And then I immediately thought, well, how am I doing this? No one taught me how to speak or how to hear telepathically. It just happened naturally once I was in heaven. She asked me to look and to watch this, and she turned. So I looked the same direction as she and I started to see visions from the right side of my life. And it started with a vision of me at Christmas time with my family. And I was a young boy, eight years old, maybe younger, with my brother and sister and mom and dad opening Christmas gifts around the Christmas tree. I could hear the wrapping opening up and I could smell the Christmas tree and the pine and even if you had bacon that morning, bacon and eggs, so you could smell the bacon.

17:41 And it was surreal to see myself and be a spectator on this dimensional level of my experience, being so vivid and being exactly as I remembered it, yet not being a dream, but literally re -experiencing it, feelings and the memories, all very, very sharp and accurate to the way I remember it to be. And these visions continued on. It would fade into another vision in memory, all pleasant, all very positive. And I was always in attendance. I could see myself there in these visions and all the fun experiences in school, the girls I dated, the friendships I had, the exciting experiences and adventures. And each one had no time, had no limitations other than I was completely absorbed into the moments, both with emotion and all my senses. And the interesting thing was when she kind of faded, the angel faded to the background as I was watching these because it was so enthralling to see these memories coming forward and feeling them and experiencing them once again. It was a wonderful experience that I was involved and so enthralled by them that I got to experience it all the way to the moment in which I was run over. Quick shout out to our new sponsor, which is Squarespace. If you need a website, Squarespace is the place to do it

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20:07 Plus with promo code roundtrip, you'll save 10 % off your first purchase of a website or domain. I'll put a link and the code down in the show notes to make it easy. So take a minute right now, go to squarespace .com forward slash roundtrip and get started on your own website for free. There's a misnomer in regards to you go to heaven and all of a sudden there's a disconnection to your worldly life that you just experienced in your physical body. All these things were vivid and accurate in my mind though I was in heaven and I was experiencing this new experience which was with this angel and having telepathy and having a conversation where there's no confusion or misunderstandings where your words have expression behind them. What you say and what you're experiencing and you're conveying with telepathy cannot be misunderstood. And it's always encapsulated with love. Up in heaven, you're surrounded by love and warmth and kindness. It felt like a comfortable, like you were wrapped in a warm blanket and everything is fine and there's no anxiety. If I could just interject a couple of questions, because I don't want to miss any of this detail. But I don't want to get so far down the road that we forget about some of these things that I'm really curious about. This going back and living some of these

21:41 experiences, a lot of people have what we call a life review. And during the life review, there's usually a lot of these different circumstances and something to be learned from it. Yours, I don't know if you would classify it as that. I'm asking you. or if it's more like you are just reminiscing on all these wonderful happy memories, or if those things are even different, and they can be different. What do you think? That's a very good question, Eric. To me, it appeared to be somewhat of a life review, but that I didn't experience any negative or anything that I was ashamed of or anything that I saw that I felt as if I had made a mistake in my choices. They were all positive experiences.

22:27 And one thing I can tell you this much, Eric, is that at no point did she interject or was there any form of judgment. It was me judging my experience on Earth and what all the different chapters that I had gone through and experienced. And at no point did I feel like there was any judgment other than my perception of what I was seeing. And at no point did I ever feel ashamed or negative or felt as if I had failed or made a mistake. It was all love and light and kindness and merely an encapsulation of the bright spots of like if you were to look at a diamond and see the beautiful shimmers and glimmering colors, that's kind of how it was. It was all beautiful.

23:17 I love that. That is really beautiful. In a life review, there's always something to be learned. Did you feel like, and I appreciate you saying there wasn't shame and guilt and judgment. Everybody tells me that same thing. And that is a relief because we're all going to take some baggage with us that we could feel some of those feelings. But when you're feeling pure love, those kinds of negative feelings tend to go away. So I'm glad you got to experience that. At the same time, you can also learn from those things. Do you feel like you learned little lessons as you were going through those reviews? Most definitely.

23:59 There was a certain level of... Well, let's just say that if positive energies can get into your mind and show you and you can experience love and kindness and generosity and connections, there's also negative energies that can come into your mind and... I don't know if they have a name for those, but like demonic energies that can come in. I think it's important that humans can discern on earth when you're hearing voices and things that are not of a healthy nature. In heaven, there were no dark voices that was all very positive, very loving, and full of bright light. But on earth, you can hear voices that will say, well, go for it. No one's watching.

24:42 Take that piece of candy. No one's going to notice. In heaven, it is all noticed. And it's when you don't think that you're being noticed, as I took a collection of, is when you're noticed the most, is when you don't think you're being watched. That's when God and angels are monitoring you closer, because your mind is functioning in an undeterred state. It's just you. So I highly recommend that you do your best to listen to the voices that, because there is no getting away with anything in life. And I think that I always had a healthy angel and a healthy, positive outlook in my voices, in my mind that I would always defer from going and doing anything negative.

25:24 And I was lucky enough to follow that rules and that law of life in my mind growing up. So I did not have anything to regret. And any moments in my life or in my life review as you speak that I was ashamed of. Okay, let's jump back to where we were before I so rudely interrupted you. You were talking about this beautiful angel and the pure communication and the love that you were feeling. Why don't you continue there? So as I look at her and we're having these conversations, I was thinking in my mind, if I hear her, she's hearing me. And so I was very cognizant of what I was thinking when I was speaking with her as to the incredible, magnificent moment that I was sharing and communicating with the angel.

26:20 She again is guiding me. And I was thinking in my mind that just 10 seconds ago, it seemed like it was hours ago, though in heaven, there is no time. We perceive time here on Earth as our linear way to to justify these experiences. But in heaven, it's all happening simultaneously, the past, the future, the present. And there's nothing more important or anything more significant than living in the present moment. That's the closest thing you'll get to heaven is when you are here on earth. And if it's during a conversation or sharing a moment with an animal or a person that you love and touching them and sharing this energy, that the present moment is the significant component that allows you to make these differences, to make movements on this physical plane that you're experiencing in the earthly realm with your physical body. So I can never stress enough to anyone that I speak to or speak with. that you need to be completely present to put the phone down, not to be distracted by anything other than the gift of love and the gift of that moment that you're sharing with others. And it could be with a cat or a dog or anyone it is,

27:51 but that I really find that to be a significant component of extending your moments into a history of love, kindness and positive experience that you can look back on and it can only be done in the present moment when you are here and aware. So getting back to that wonderful angel and sharing that moment with her, I thought that the experience, this life experience, had completed itself because the last thing I remember is flying through the air and that's where I turned to look at her and wait for the next guidance from her. And she said, hold on, there's something else I need to show you. So I went back, I looked where I was watching my life experience, and I saw this green, beautiful grassy knoll, a woman standing there with her back to me playing baseball with this little boy. And the boy's about eight years old. And I knew who they were, though I had not experienced this yet. This was something in the physical world to be my future. But I was not there, and I was very aware of that, that I was not present, yet I'm watching this beautiful woman and this boy play baseball. I turned to her, and I knew who they were, that it was my future wife and my future son. And I turned to her, and I asked her, where am I? And she told

29:22 me that I no longer exist, and that it's usually difficult to think of this moment. Yeah. She said, you no longer exist and that I wanted to be there so much. This was the most significant point of the whole black experience. And I asked her, well, I need to be there. And you gave me the opportunity to see this possibility. And I always wanted to be married and I always wanted a child. She turned and looked right in my eyes and asked me if this was my choice. And I said, yes, this is my choice. And the next thing I know, I'm back in my physical body on earth.

30:08 And I realized that you have free choice in life and in heaven, that you're not just taken and placed places and moved about like a figure on a chessboard, that you honestly can, you have choices that you can make yourself and that you are in control of your destiny. So choose wisely on how you interact with others and especially during the present moment. And again, the next thing I know, I'm back in my physical body exactly where I left it and gone into heaven and realizing that I was upside down and that my head was facing the pavement and that I'd better be very careful in the next split second to get my hands behind me or I'm going to crack my head open on the pavement. And I did so and I ended up fracturing both my wrists on impact and whipping a lot of the flesh from my palms of my hand on impact.

31:09 But I immediately jumped up and was elated that I was alive and that I was back on earth. I had so much going through my mind and through my heart. Most of it was just an appreciation and an incredible love for life and for being here. being surrounded by all these souls. My perspective had completely changed from the moment before when I was in my physical body having my life experience with this angel and then coming back to earth. And it's kind of like the scenario where someone said, if you knew that you only had one day to live, how would you live that day? And I have been living my life ever since as if it is one day that I have to live. And I am so appreciative to have been back and allowed to come back to earth and to help others, guide others through the process, which is beautiful.

32:06 The process of passing and moving on and that I was able to come back and be a voice for God and be a voice for heaven and for the angelic realm is an honor and a gift. And I'm very lucky. So every day I wake up as if it's my last. And it's my first. And I will always do nothing but lead with love and kindness and appreciation and also the humility of we are all here doing our best as spirits and human bodies to have a wonderful and having positive experience. And it's up to us. We have a responsibility to each other, to all the animals on this planet and to the planet itself to treat it with respect and love. and kindness. Anything outside of that, politics and religion, none of those were there in heaven. I didn't experience any of that materialism.

33:01 None of that existed. None of that was even shown to me during my life experience. It was only the moments shared with other living souls that had any significance or any meaning. In high regard, I really want people to understand that that is why we're here and that that is the purpose is to love each other. and to treat each other with understanding and kindness. Thank you. What a beautiful philosophy. I have a few more questions for you, but before I move on to those, were there any other details of this experience out of body that you remember that you'd like to share? It's important to understand that the out -of -body experience and the experience of passing is not like you're thrown into this world of the unknown. You have no control in what's happening. You have complete control of what is happening in the spirit realm. The distractions of materialism, the distractions of ego and the distractions of things that have absolutely no value or any meaning, which are presented here on earth, you realize none of those have any value. and that when you have the outer body experience, it's almost a clarity of what truly matters and what truly is a reason for being here. And it's so simple. It's a single focus of love, which encapsulates compassion and understanding.

34:31 And all of that is clearly presented and clearly defined the moment that you leave your physical body and the earthly realm all the distractions dissipate and go away. Yeah. So I'm really curious. You saw while you were there, your future wife and child. When you finally met your wife, did you recognize her? Yes, I did. I knew who she was. I was working out at the at the club at the. For fitness at the time, I used to work hard every day because that was my job. She was there working out and she had a complete purple hue around her. It was like an unbelievable purple like glow around her and something inside my mind said approach her and I don't even know why or the reasoning behind it other than I was overwhelmed and I just got up and walked right over to her and Said hello. My name is John And I said, you need to hold it down, because you're making us guys look bad over here. Because she was exercising, and she was so focused. And she started laughing. And I thought to myself, oh my gosh, that has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever said. And I was almost somewhat embarrassed.

35:53 In the moment, it was that I was to approach her. I was to acknowledge her. It's funny how the spirit world and the angels and God take control of the important things. And all you need to do is trust that everything will work out. And in that moment, I learned to trust in love. I just wondered if you had walked up and said, by the way, I had this experience and you're going to be my future wife. Yeah, probably better to hold off on that for a bit. That one was going to hold off on a little bit. It all came together in a way. But can you imagine Eric having this experience knowing the significance of of you marrying this woman. And all of these thoughts are going through my mind and it was so overwhelming that everything in that moment was tied to me being able to have a child, having my son, Dylan, who is a gift in my life. Her name was Gina Geese at the time, was a gift in my life and a chapter that I am so blessed to have experienced. that love and the opportunity to have a child with her. We ended up living up on that ranch and I ended up playing baseball with my son and this woman that I married up on that ranch. And everything came through exactly as I had dreamt or as I had experienced in heaven. But I had to live for a year or so knowing the future and living

37:24 it backwards. And I was so concerned that I would do the wrong thing or say the wrong thing. that she would not want to marry me and that all this opportunity would have never come into fruition. And that was the hardest year of my life because I realized the significance of my actions, though everything worked out very smoothly and that there was no need for me to have concerns as if the angels and God had taken care of this and that it was all going to work out the way I had been shown. within a year, we were engaged and married. Though, you know, we have my son now who's older and he is the gift in my life, we did not remain married, though we are best friends and we are, to this day, we talk often and our primary concerns and relationship is based on making sure that we provide for our son, right, still bounce things off of her whenever there's life changes and things in her. her opinion in her life means much to me, and I really wish her the very best, though I think God has kind of put me on a different path at this time, a very powerful spiritual path that is still, let's say, unwinding and opening as I do my best to follow in what I experienced in Heaven. We're all on that. But you had that couple of years, it was like, just don't blow it, just don't blow it. Exactly. I know what's coming if I just don't

38:57 mess it up. How old is your son now? He's 22. Shout out to Dylan. Hello, Dylan. He'll greatly appreciate that. He and I have a friendship. I've never seen myself as a father. He never needed a dad. He just needed love. And he has exceeded expectations in regards to our relationship and we just have a close friendship as if he's my best buddy and that everything that we do and share together, we're always laughing and having a good time. I am so blessed with every day that I get to share with him. I'm aware of that and I never hesitate to tell him from my heart that I love him and that I appreciate him and that there was so much that I learned from him. not just as an adult bringing up a younger son, but as a friend who I've learned as much from him as I have been able to instruct from my perspective. I can so relate to all that.

40:02 I mentioned to you about Will, my son, early on. He's just a little bit older than that. And here's what you have to look forward to. Dylan, his wife, partner, whatever, may have a child someday. Like wills did last summer and that's softly special too. So you've got that to look forward to as well Trust me. It's pretty cool. I I always say that like oh my gosh, I'm excited for the future but then I'm thinking well if I say anything that may put a Outside a pressure or premonition on on what he is to achieve because sometimes I wonder about the egg or the chicken what came first because Again, I learned so much from my son that I'm always thinking I don't want to change his perspective because he has gifts that amaze me to this day. And I wonder was it he or I that was meant to come back and to make a difference and to express wholeheartedly the significance of being a soul in a human body and sharing in the gift of the human experience here on Earth. Good question. Okay, a couple more quick questions. I want to hear just a little bit more about this angel. You described a little bit that she was beautiful and what she was wearing.

41:25 Did you ever get a feeling like she was some kind of relation to you? She was assigned to you as a guide. What else did you feel from her? I felt that she was the epitome of what I thought an angel would be. if I were to meet one. And so I don't know if I have a bias because what I feel comfortable and what I see or thought as a young boy going to a Lutheran church and seeing Jesus up on the cross and I always wondered what the experience would be like being crucified. I always was concerned about that and it ended up that I was, in a way, and being able to come back. and to relive and to come back from a near -death experience. That the angel was everything that I thought that she would be loving, light, and reassuring of my path, and she was everything that I envisioned her to be. And I felt so comfortable as if I had been here before, I had done this before in heaven, and that I remembered everything.

42:36 that we try to experience, that we try to achieve here on Earth. Having the ability to speak with her telepathically, if we could do that here on Earth, how many things could be disregarded in the mistakes of thoughts and voices and words that people say that are misinterpreted between humans. There was no misinterpretation with the angel. She and I spoke with complete clarity, which made me feel so at ease and so loved. Well, in my understanding of that telepathic communication, as you've explained it and as other people have explained it, it may not necessarily be in words but more of a transfer of meaning, which is why there's no misinterpretation. I mean, in this life we often use the wrong words and a word I say to you might mean something different to somebody else. So when we can just lovingly transfer some kind of meaning back and forth, Perfect communication. We would have perfect marriages.

43:38 We would have perfect relationships with everybody here if we could just do that. How much fear of death do you have? Absolutely none. My wife used to get so mad at me. She'd say, you are walking right in the path of that vehicle. And she grabbed me and pulled me out of the way. I have absolutely no fear of death at all. I would not ask it. because I realized the gift of me being here and that I'm making incremental changes in my life and in the life of others by even speaking with you now and expressing that the near -death experience and the death experience itself is a positive experience and in no way is it negative. Of course, it's difficult for those who are still existing when you lose a loved one, and that's understandable. But from the loved one's perspective, Be it heaven or hell you choose how you will live that be it in heaven or here on earth You can choose to live in heaven here on earth That that you know the significance of the present moment. I cannot express that enough that if you can take a couple deep breaths and When you get excited or you get angry or that you're ready to say something that you may regret To take a couple breaths breathe deep and allow your earthly mouth to say the words that are almost cannot be mistaken by anything other than love and kindness and generosity and understanding because only in

45:11 the present moment can you perform miracles and that's what you're here to do is to experience miracles and to be a fulcrum, a pendulum of providing miracles to others but it's only done in the present moment. You can't do it in forethought or in reflection of the past. Those energies are no longer in the active realm of your ability to be in the present moment and to perform miracles. Trent John Miller, thank you for being with me today. Thank you for opening up and sharing some of these really deep things. I appreciate it. Thank you, Eric. Thanks again for listening and sharing this podcast. Don't forget to hit the follow or subscribe button and sign up for our newsletter at roundtripdeath .com. If you want to share your near -death experience, or if you have questions or comments about the show, send an email to eric at roundtripdeath .com. Until then, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the next.