Loreli's NDE's (Part 2) The Void

0:00 Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody and part two of our interview with Lorelai Drock. In part one we talked about her first few near-death experiences and we're going to take it beyond that today and talk about the void, other things that she experienced and a lot of things that we can both learn. If you haven't heard part one yet I recommend starting there. That's the last episode so episode number 449. Okay let's jump right back into it. From the time that they pronounced me death was a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped and I could see people screaming and crying but I didn't realize that was actually my physical body because I was somewhere else. The only thing that I could feel if you could imagine absolute love and peace there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was greeted by people I'd known in the past. I'm back home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.

1:07 Last experience we're going to talk about here you had an experience with the void and I give people mentioning the void to me all the time. Not everybody experiences it but some do and I hear it explained in different ways. So tell me about your experience and then let's talk a little bit more about it. Well this one I had inadvertently ingested something with modesty and gluten weight and I'm highly sensitive so if you know people with those kinds of sensitivities it does trigger some kind of like those autonomic nervous type issues and so once again I start my sleep. I've been tested for apnea I don't have it but I stopped breathing in my sleep and I was in this black velvety void that seemed to go on for an expanse of forever and it kind of reminded me of like being in the loom to be honest you know like how that might seal and I remember being shocked because I was like I'm here why am I here you know why what's going on like there's no way I can have another you know I can't be dead again you know like I thought we were done with this I did what you said you know I agreed to come back to be of service I forgot to say that with my fourth experience I knew what was coming in and I even said no I want to get back to my body get me back in there now I work too many lifetimes to get to what we're going to experience so I thought I was done you know I done everything else I was kind of shocked at a little I agree I'm like why am I here what's going on I've learnt everything and um kind of probably some ego playing in there like

2:39 and I'm like where's my body and the same thing kind of happened over again as far as getting into my body this time my heart hit like eight times it felt yeah yeah yeah yeah but it was not as painful as the first so I know I wasn't gone as long but I remember asking these things and why I was I was here and I had this huge I'm still integrating this because this was just December of this past year but I remember it was pivotal in the sense that it was the direct opposite of my first experience there was still love there and there was still nurturing but not amplified it was like you know being in this darkness but I felt this and I connected to consciousness and I felt this extreme loneliness like I understood for the first time in my being why we were created like why that consciousness that source was so compelled to make life because it was sentient in conscious energy frequency light and had all these creations and ideas and you imagine having eternity with all this awareness and knowing and absolutely nothing to share it with or anything to interact with just this just to I it's just like that love I can't explain this as well as I would like to so I understood why I was having this experience why I was alive and what I was helping

4:15 doing it was like this huge symbiotic love like that consciousness got to experience everything there was through me but me as a collective I could see itself and everything I understood that we were like a mirror of this this conscious energy source of God whatever you would like to label to create and expand from like we were just all these little fuck does of light from this same thing but it showed me like how he created the first and then they could interact and that one was like you know there's nobody here completely understands me and that that one fractalized and all these creations came from this conscious need to be understood to be loved to have something outside of ourself to truly see ourselves and so this depth of that loneliness prior to you and why it was created was very profound for me but as I was leaving this particular experience you know how I had the booming voice in the beginning this was a female voice that I can't say I can connect with anything that was very loud as I was coming back that said there's only death because you believe in it or you continue to believe in it the you felt like a collective you like you know how we're all fractals of the one at least from my experiences I won't claim it for anyone else through that I understood like two things I kept creating death experience because

5:46 I felt like that was the only way like people think going to heaven and dying is the only way you can connect with this love this source and that is not true and I kept creating these experiences to go home to feel that complete detachment that freedom when you can have it here but anytime I got too caught up in my story or my story felt too out of control I would go home and also I understood that I was the one creating the veil from like in my first death experience they had given me the understanding like the caterpillar story I told my mother that we were there in the caterpillar stage of soul you know like human evolution through my other ones they're like it's the chrysalis moment where your DNA is all being rearranged to take flight we're headed towards light bodies and more conscious loving awareness in that higher frequency of consciousness so I just understood all of these things and because those frequencies when somebody passes they're at a higher state of frequency they lost the density that creates their physical body we were creating that that veil that separates us like you know how I said I am able to connect with spirits animals trees people that have passed all of these things they have consciousness including our body one of my experiences that like our body also has these energetic agreements with these

7:16 organs and they're their own consciousness choosing to have this energetic agreement to be our physical body so they have voices and consciousness and needs as well so my understanding through all of this was like my beliefs and the things that I had created were the only thing separating me from spirit from my loved ones everything because in my mind they had died just because they changed for when they were still all around me and trying to communicate but I couldn't recognize it so they were just saying like we keep creating death in part to have new experiences but but it is a belief just like heaven hell all those other things they're beliefs that that had been built upon so anyway that was that was that experience so do we need a different term for death some kind of a term for when our physical body stops working I call it transcendence to be honest the closest thing I can say is you know you trans transcend your physical vessel and you become more light and energy you're still conscious still same personality going and doing and living different things but there is no death in that sense conscious energy energy cannot be created you know cannot be destroyed so that that carries on I asked you earlier to try to figure out now that you've had a lot of time to think about it about the male voice that you heard to be fair

8:52 tell me a little bit about the female voice was it this big booming here's what you have to do kind of experience or necessary booming but it was very like and almost all like in a loving way like you silly girl you know how to read like that kind of entonement like almost exasperated like are we done yet you realize you keep creating this eat no kind of thing well you're a parent don't you do that with your kids sometimes yes it felt very maternal ever since I was a small child I've had a Mary Magdalene type energy and and visitation of that kind of energy and in between my fourth and fifth no my third and fourth 2019 I had this huge profound experience with a being known as Yeshua you told me not to call Jesus he said Yeshua that was probably more profound than my NDS almost anyway um so like to me I understand like it felt more like those kind of parental motherly beings if there were to be a label I mean that's the more Christian label to me they go by many names as they say but it's the same energy I promise that we would talk a little bit more about the void this is something that I don't totally get it's not something that I find in religious scripture in places like that doesn't mean it doesn't exist I've had it described to me as a very dark place where there's like nothing also described as this dark place where there's

10:29 everything and there's life and I believe you mentioned feeling lonely but also love and nurturing take me down that path try to explain that a little bit more well my understanding of this particular point I'm not saying they're all the same yeah they may be different for my understanding is is there there there is various you know places like like when I go to what I call the white void is one like the quantum space where everything's created and all knowledge is there at once that's a different void this particular one I understood to be outside of the whole creation see my understanding is heaven hell you know whatever labels you want to put and all of these different levels and sub levels of all of this are part of that whole creation that we have created and have created where this particular void was like outside of that it was outside of all outside of creation in that sense if I can say it like that so that in itself was very I don't want to say I don't like the witch drama at all but it was very surreal to me like okay because it was almost like looking back on creation itself I felt saved it seemed to go on forever but I didn't sense anything there you know other than this presence of consciousness do you feel like it's a temporary state possibly you know my kids had me watch the show Supernatural and I never had but do you know how

12:04 I don't know if you've ever seen it but maybe your audience has where they send these angels to this place they don't reincarnate they don't do anything they go to rest in this place this just like this black void right um sort of and it kind of to me it was like that like it was outside of creation it was outside everything and we're like spirit just goes to be to be at rest literal rest we're like other areas of this whole creation you know spirits are being guides or they're continuing to work on something or having other experiences here is like rest it's just that eternal peace like if you want to go to rest not reincarnate now watch a like you can rest with sorts and that's kind of what this void felt like to me but it sounds kind of like a place where you don't progress either yeah I think it's kind of like if you've if you've fulfilled you know like you as a soul at least my understanding can decide when you think you've like fulfilled everything you want to experience and I think it's also kind of like the womb where it is and uh it internally rest where you're not having any experiences where you're just waiting for the next experience so I don't know if it's an eternal rest but it feels like a rest well and you've mentioned earlier this super bright light arch and then of course in this void this black velvety sort of dark place why do you think they were so opposite what was the purpose of that

13:38 because it doesn't sound like one was good and one was bad no they weren't and that's just human judgment and spirit to me they always show me everything has its purpose to take you to the next level the next understanding so for me I think there are so many I call it layers of truth and experience and things that have been created I think that's why even the lamb commonalities these experiences are all different I've had five and each one was completely different I went to a completely different place and not because I was being judged or not worthy of this or that there was no judgment in any of these other than like I said you know uh my spirit team going you know at your level light you should know better stop you almost killed yourself off and you got stuff to do so to me all of this we've created in one form or another they show me literally like a roll of decks we're constantly making choices and picking different timelines by those choices of what we want to experience in deja vu and like now it used to be deja vu now it's just I see like the number 19 like that always tells me I'm on the path that I chose 19 is my path so there's always those signs that I'm I'm staying with the choices I had planned and experiences and I did have a profound experience with Archangel Michael that helped me understand this a little bit um I was very upset about a few years ago because some of my health issues had revisited me and I had already made the agreement to be of service so I was like you know if you want me to

15:13 continue to be a service you need to heal this physical vessel you know like you you know I agree to do this I'm doing what I said you know I can't do what you asked me to do and you know this keeps breaking down kind of saying I was very angry I think I was swearing I'm not even sure to be honest and I literally was taken out of body and he said I can't remove what you've already pulled into your experience I can only ease your attachment to it so it moves through your experience faster and that gave this whole line of remembrance that he showed me you know because sometimes we plan certain things or oh we plan an illness but how deeply we attach to it is how much it plays out in our experience you know he showed me like whether you have a sniffle or pneumonia is how much you feed it you know if you get in this whole fear thing and like how much you feed into it and I realized like yep I was back to feeding being sick which I had left behind many years ago to be clear like 8 10 there's almost 10 years ago now I was completely almost completely bedridden could still get to the store but I mean I was very weak I found out a severely anemic and my liver and kidneys were shutting down they're at the beginning stages of failure and I saw this mean like what thought are you feeding and I realized I was feeding sick and from that point on I completely flipped the switch I stopped chasing all the experts and studying all my supposed 16-auto immune and comorbidity diagnosis and I just chose I chose differently and I switched and I'm not

16:50 saying there's anything wrong with Eastern Western matter and even those things I've been a part of both what I'm saying is is understanding those and that all choices I like that you know all the different things we plant how how much we choose to experience of that experience that's where the free will plays in like how deeply you want to experience things that you had put on your path all right before we wrap up just a couple of quick things because we've covered so much territory today you need some kind of spiritual frequent flyer miles or something for all of all of this that you've been through in places that you've been and seen but first of all what's your level of fear of death oh I have no fear of death itself my only thing that I still have you know like anxiety about is like you know everybody wonders how it's going to happen or like the whole part of suffering first or any of those things I was removed before there was any like major suffering so I trust that will happen again I joke sometimes that I have more of fear of living than I do of dying you mentioned that you learned a lot of why uh that this stuff happened can you just wrap up with a message for our listeners that they can learn from a lot of the things that you've been through part of my fourth experience and things that I have learned since is emotions how we deal with them how we react with them everything that frequency

18:21 of thought emotion and attention creates everything if you don't deal with emotions in the moment they battle up they literally encapsulate in various parts of your body as medical intuitive I can tell you this so the key thing spirit always tells me is to deal with your emotions authentically in the moment if so you know if you need a minute to breathe fine but you need to express yourself your emotions and not let them become an entity of themselves which can happen sometimes like outside of yourself because it's such a strong emotion with traumas or within yourself where it encapsulizes and eventually causes dis-ease emotion is the key creator the power of words was all part of my fourth experience because words hold frequency and all the energy that we've ever fed that particular word so think how often people have fed the word sick even the western vocabulary the majority of it carries a negative frequency so be mindful of all of that big like how you speak to yourself how you speak to your body how you speak to others because you are creating your reality and every now moment with what you're choosing when you do so and I think if people were more aware of all of that and trying to be more authentic in your emotions and your expression in the world you wear our own worst judge so stop judging yourself and how you perceive

19:58 others are going to see you because I have found the more authentic you are the more you can accept love because if you're not being authentic you cannot truly love yourself so you'll never until you do that you don't feel love from others because you don't accept it because you already know that you are putting on a mask and not being your authentic stuff so there's a lot of that going on for people to find healing or align with their highest frequency however you want to put these things that authenticity and also to respect sovereignty we throw labels that people and expectations because of those labels when you think mom think of how many things you expect a mother to be and you judge everything off of that expectation and they're human just like you having experiences emotions they don't know what to do with I think overall that is the best I can leave anyone as a thought to think on because that no matter whatever level of spiritual awareness you have can change everything and you know to keep your mind open that anything literally is possible we are limitless creator beings and the more you try to box yourself in more suffering chaos you create because I've seen it in my experience with the ashok he showed me all how we're creating that suffering and chaos within ourselves and that accountability responsibility that we're the

21:28 ones actually creating it when you take that accountability that's when you can see great change sounds good if anyone wants to reach out to Laura lie your website will be on the show notes and thank you so much Laura live for being with me today thank you so much for having me it was really fun to have a conversation with you that and I hope I can impart some some of the things I've learned through my experiences thanks again for listening and sharing this podcast don't forget to hit the follow or subscribe button and sign up for our newsletter at roundtripdeath.com if you want to share your near-death experience or if you have questions or comments about the show send an email to eric at roundtripdeath.com until then I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the next