Jump From Bridge Led to NDE (Near Death Experience)

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From the time that they pronounced me that was

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a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then

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they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I

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could see people screaming and crying But I didn't

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realize that was actually my physical body because

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I was somewhere else The only thing that I could

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feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace

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there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was

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greeted by people I'd known in the past I'm back

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home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.

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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.

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We're happy to have our special guest today,

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Cedar Branches. Good morning. How are you, Cedar?

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Morning, Eric. I'm okay. How are you doing? Good.

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It's good to see you. We had a great talk yesterday.

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And I feel like I need to give sort of a Intro

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disclaimer, whatever we want to call it before

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we get started today to let our audience know

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While this is going to be full of positive energy

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and thoughts. This is a very unusual near -death

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type of experience that some people are going

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to Maybe have a harder time dealing with and

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that's okay. We're also going to be discussing

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some sensitive topics like suicide and so if

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that's something that you know maybe you're not

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ready for it this time that's okay just wanted

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to give you a little heads up on that and remind

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everybody if you're ever in any kind of a crisis

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there's the 988 crisis line you can always reach

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out to and have somebody to talk to but let's

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jump in on a more positive note cedar take just

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a minute and tell us a little bit about you I'm

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51 years old, turning 52 tomorrow. And I previously

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lived a corporate life, living the American dream.

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And I left my career in 2011 and dedicated myself

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to a path of devotional spiritual service. After

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that period, the journey has been really wild,

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which I'm sure we're going to talk a little bit

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more about today, including a few near depth

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like experiences. You know, I'm going to be sharing

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what I share today. And this is a little bit

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of my disclaimer as literal because my rendering

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of my experience is very literal to me. Hope

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that anything that I can offer today is, is a

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value to anyone. Well, I appreciate you being

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here. I know it's not easy to be as vulnerable

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as the things that we're going to be talking

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about today. And hey, let me be the first one

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to say happy birthday tomorrow. Oh, thank you.

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I will spare you the singing, but happy birthday

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and congratulations. And what does it mean to,

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I forget how you worded it, something about how

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you left regular life and started on a spiritual

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journey about 15 years ago. What does that mean?

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How did things change? Well, I found myself living

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a corporate life. I actually worked at Microsoft

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Corporation as an analyst. I had worked really

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hard over the years to gain that position. And

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I had what a lot of people might really believe

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is the American dream. You know, I had a beautiful

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family and I drove a Cadillac and I had a good

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paying job, a condo in the suburbs of Seattle.

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And I still didn't have happiness. And I, you

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know, I really felt like on a daily basis that

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I was sort of serving the beast for lack of a

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better metaphor on that, poisoning my soul. My

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health was in decline and I just truly wasn't

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happy at a soul level. And so in 2010, I really

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reached a rock bottom point where every day I

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was waking up with a very difficult question.

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That question was, should I get up and go to

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work today or should I die? And while my mind

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basically told me on a daily basis that I would

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choose that, I didn't. And I made the right choice.

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And I continued persevering through until early

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2011, where in early 2011, my marriage came to

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a gentle and loving end and my career also came

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to an end. As of June 2011, through some shamanic

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classes I was taking, I really realized my soul

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calling was not about money or materiality or

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following the rules, but was really to try and

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find ways to be in service of something greater

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and higher than myself. That really became my

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path. And what that looked like to me was every

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morning I would wake up. And time was on my side,

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even though I didn't really have any finances

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to support me. And I would listen to my heart

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on what I believe Spirit was telling me to go

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do or where to go. And I would follow that, would

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think. And it led me a lot of places for a lot

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of years. I'll bet there's some other people

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listening right now that are feeling somewhat

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the same way. But that is a scary leap to just

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jump. Any advice? I wouldn't recommend it for

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most people. I really think that there's other

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easier ways. I really have gone through in my

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life and I've made a lot of arguably foolish

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decisions that were necessary for me to learn.

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I think other people could mediate that a little

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better, learn how to value a little more what

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is in your life, and find ways to become more

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authentic with yourself. without necessarily

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casting everything aside. All right. Well, let's

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get into the NDE stuff. Let's go back. You had

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three different experiences back in the early

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2010s, 2010 to 2014. Give us an idea of what

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was going on and what led up to the first and

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second ones, which were a little minor compared

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to the third one that we're going to get to in

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a few minutes. What was going on? Well, in 2010,

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like I said, I had reached my rock bottom. And

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in very early 2011, I had one of the final arguments

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with my ex -wife, now ex -wife. Our marriage

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had really been based on attachment as well as

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a form of love. But it was very much based on

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attachment and fear of loss. When I had that

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argument, I set out onto the roads in the night

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and my one of my faster cars. And I know I was

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out there being reckless and that the whole night

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was kind of a bore. I have faint glimpses of,

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you know, maybe having an accident, maybe not.

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And really when I sort of came out of my boat

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that I was in at the moment, I found myself parked

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at a gas station. And I was really certainly

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from that experience, even though I can't describe

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a lot of details from it. I was a different man

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when I came to in that moment. And it was the

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next morning that I went to my ex -wife with

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love and we decided to separate and that was

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out of love for each other. It wasn't in a fight.

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It was more about allowing the other to find

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their own happiness on their own path. And so

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that one taught me a lot. I'm gonna throw out

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another term that's used often and I don't know

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if you've heard this before. It's called a spiritually

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transformative experience or STE. versus NDE.

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Do you feel like the thing that you just described

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was more of that? Very likely, yeah. Now in my

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rendering, since I don't have a lot of detail,

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I can't really say as much as with the other

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experiences, the literalness of how I experience.

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But in that case, I would definitely agree. And

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that led to a whole change in your life. Absolutely.

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Definitely transformative. Okay. So you keep

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going down this path, you get to a point later

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where you're doing all kinds of meditation and

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fasting and that leads up to the next experience.

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So go ahead and go through all of that. I really

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heavily depended during that time you're talking

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about on community support and being in community

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to make sure I got fed. But one of the things

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that happens in the Pacific Northwest in the

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winter is community sort of disappears while

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people go inside to hibernate, I suppose, for

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the winter. I actually ended up going to my stepbrothers'

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home in Granite Falls and I brought a small amount

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of food with me. It was supposed to drag me through

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the winter and it really wasn't enough. And so

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I was already just due to my health issues and

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basically a starvation mode. And after three

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months, I had run out of food. I had run out

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of sweetener for the tea that I was drinking

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on tea fasting. And I really went through a starvation

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experience. That was a slow process, you know,

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weeks and weeks and weeks of meditation and releasing

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through every layer of attachment, you know,

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attachment to ideas, to material materiality,

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to relationships, to my own beliefs, and even

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to wipe itself. And as the starvation sort of

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turned to where it looked like I was really at

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risk, which was sort of a shift in aim into euphoria,

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which I recognized as a symptom, as I faded off

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to sleep that night, I sort of, the writing was

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on the wall that it was likely that my organs

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would shut down while I slept. And as I was sort

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of resolving through that, I found I still had

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one regret that was still with me. And that was

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the thought of a soulmate who I didn't know,

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who was out in the world waiting for me. And

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that, you know, I might have some sort of a soul

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contract to go meet them. And that I regretted

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that I wouldn't be able to fulfill that in my

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life. I moved on from that as well. And the move

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on was kind of in the form of asking spirit.

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There's something left for me to complete. Please

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eat me here. But if there's not, I'm ready to

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go home. And the next morning I woke up and a

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friend of mine was on the doorstep with food.

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I guess it was my choice to return to life to

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fulfill that. And just on a positive note about

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that experience, it has since been fulfilled.

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Absolutely. I like how you just said something

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about going home. Like that was a possibility

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that you might be going home. That's a term that

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we hear a lot. from people who have visited the

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other side. I know nothing about your religious

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or zero religious background. Why did you come

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up with that term home? It's related to partially

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to belief probably because I believe we all come

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from one source and we all return to that source

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not even in a religious way. even a physics way,

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I suppose. It's additionally related to what

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I found every time I stared at that veil and

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that edge, and that it's as if there's a sea

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of just infinite peace and love, and it's a very

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welcoming place, and it has that feeling of home,

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you know? That's really where it resonates to

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me. Every time I stood at that edge, it looks

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like home. It's very inviting. There's nothing

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wrong there. Very peaceful place. And it just

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feels like home. How else would you explain that?

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Besides the words peaceful and home, any other

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adjectives to... Welcoming is really dead. And

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it's much like a sea of infinite love and an

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unconditional love at that. And, you know, it's

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pretty amazing for me every time I've sort of

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been at that place because in life, I have a

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lot of struggle that goes on in my head and I...

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I find things very important in life, whether

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that's something I think, what my beliefs are,

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or I'd see it in other people, what politics

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are, and all of this. And really, when you're

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in that other place, there's none of that. And

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being on the other side of it, it just feels

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like we make so much more meaning about this

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life than is actually necessary. The other side

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has such a perfection and such an unconditional

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love. that you can look back and you can say,

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well, there was nothing wrong the whole time,

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and I made it mean all of this. And then it's

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clear on the other side. Okay. Thank you for

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all that. Let's move forward to 2014. Life gets

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even tougher. Tell us what's going on now. Well,

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I had continued going along with my devotional

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service. I was trying to teach a lot of things

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that I was learning at the time in my developing

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wisdom. Still very not matured at that point.

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But I did find a lot of personal healing. And

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one day in mid April that year of 2014, I went

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on a medicine walk, which is something that I

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would regularly do. It was kind of like a spirit

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guided walk without direction and listening to

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the heart and going where you're guided. And

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I ended up at a bridge over a ravine. And I had

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a vision there of me falling to my death off

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the bridge. It took me back a little bit. not

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just because it was such a graphic vision, but

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also because I didn't have any fear around it.

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I felt it was kind of a peaceful vision, which

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was a little surprising to myself. And I didn't

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take any immediate action on it. I had other

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obligations to attend to, so I moved on. Well,

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the next day, or maybe a couple of days after,

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I sort of woke up out of a writing an automatic

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writing trance if I would do things like that

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at the time. And on my computer in front of me

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was a suicide note. I looked at it and I understood

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that I had a place and that I had a plan. And

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I realized that these were pretty big warning

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signs that maybe I should call for help. And

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so I called a friend. They didn't answer I left

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a kind of a superficial message, you know one

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of those Oh, hey, give me a call when you get

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a chance sort of things and then after I didn't

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get a call after many hours or maybe even the

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next morning I Pretty much decided I was gonna

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walk down to that bridge But I I couldn't leave

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the friend that I had call With a dishonest message

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and feel like I had done them any service. So

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I called him back I was much more honest when

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I left the message at this point about sort of

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the urgency and the situation that I was in.

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And after they didn't call back for a while,

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I put on my shoes and I went to the door. And

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as I reached for the door, that friend called

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back. They came, they picked me up. They showed

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me just the great amount of love and compassion

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and understanding. They took me to a different

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location through a community house that was full

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of naturopathic physicians and dealers and you

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know a bunch of men kind of around my age or

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younger and I spent a couple weeks there in a

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lot of healing work, internal healing work around

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what I was going through as well as teaching

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and trying to give gifts to them while I was

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there. A couple weeks later toward the end of

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April there was a quiet moment which was rare

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in that house. I sat down to meditate and a spirit

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basically told me in those moments that this

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conversation That I had had since my youth about

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death and about dying and killing myself was

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gonna come to an end once and for all Which was

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honestly relief to my ears And I was like, yes,

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please Then spirit gave me the instruction to

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write that suicide note by hand and to go to

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the bridge And I was in brawl You know, I wasn't

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planning on going and killing myself, but I was

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definitely ready to step into what spirit had

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in store for me. So I scribbled the note out

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and I walked the number of miles over to the

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bridge. When I got there, I paced the bridge

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for a while. I meditated. I burned some sage

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and some kapal. And then at some point I stopped

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near the middle of the bridge, looked over the

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edge and spirit. said jump and so I jumped and

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I fell to the trail below and my bones broke

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and blood spilled out about me and I died. I

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was taken into, we'll call it a vision. I was

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taken into a vision that tracked all of the people

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who I loved and who loved me through the lives

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moving forward and while I think before that

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occurrence I had hoped that my death might actually

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make a difference for someone. What I found was

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that it didn't. That, you know, it made people

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sad for a while, that they needed to process

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through their healing, but I really learned that

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other people's lessons weren't my responsibility

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for them to learn. You know, everyone's got to

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learn their own truth in their own way. And then...

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something really miraculous happened. There had

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been a few college students who were on that

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bridge when I jumped and spirit resurrected my

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body on the trail below. And I stood up and I

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them that we sent you. This didn't last long

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because then I was shown that what had happened

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with those college students who had witnessed

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the fall and who had witnessed this resurrection

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experience. And they went on through their life

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and at first they tried to tell other people

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about it. You know, I'm sure it sounded extraordinary

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to anyone they told. Ultimately they got into

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therapy around it. It wasn't believed. It didn't

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land with anyone. After time passed even the

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people who had witnessed such a crazy miracle

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Didn't even believe they had witnessed of anyone

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and it affected less than the death itself and

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so I had hoped that Prior to this I had hoped

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that you know the the performance or the working

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of miracles witnessed by others would make a

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difference for them and I found that it really

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get them and again, it sort of goes back to the

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the same message about that everyone's responsible

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for their own truth and their own lessons. Then

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I moved into a period that I would refer to as

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an experience of Nirvana, which is an infinite

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place with no contrast and no experience. It's

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that place of rest that I touched on and that

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home that I touched on in the first death experience.

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But it was gone as soon as I As soon as I was

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there, as soon as it arrived, it was gone. Then

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I found myself scanning back on top of the bridge,

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as if not a breath had passed. And I heard three

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messages from Spirit at that time. I'll go a

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little bit slow with those. The first was, it

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takes more courage to live than it does to die.

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That answered some of my questions that were

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in that note. The second message was even more

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significant. we can affect more in life than

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we can in death. And here I had thought moving

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into this whole scenario that my death would

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affect something in life and I was shown it doesn't.

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We can affect so much in life for each other.

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Really the value of the gift we have here. And

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then the third message was I still have more

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works to complete and specifically another work

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to complete. It was really around Not so much

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me teaching but someone learning what I had to

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teach This was at the same time on the same day

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that I wrote the note. I just found this the

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other day, too I had seeded philosophy all the

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applied karmic magic it's 12 years later now

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over 12 years later and I actually just finally

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published that work and What it became after

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growing for over a decade? Okay, I'm trying to

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unpack all this. Let's jump into it a piece at

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a time. And by the way, what you wrote, it is

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a memoir. It is available out there if people

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want to read it. We'll stick a link down on the

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show notes later. Let's talk about a few things.

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We have listeners that are religious, I'm not

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religious, we have atheists, we have Christians,

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we have Buddhists, we have you name it, okay?

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And I don't want to at all pigeonhole what you've

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been talking about into one of those kinds of

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boxes, but I do want you to clarify a few things.

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And that is, let's just start here. When you

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say spirit, What are you talking about exactly?

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Because Christians might think of the Holy Spirit

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and other people might think of, well, it's just

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the spirit world in general. What does that mean

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to you exactly? For me, it was my name. It was

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my name for God at the time. I'm a very spiritual

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person. I've done a lot of religious studies,

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but I don't subscribe to any particular religion.

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I like to keep my heart open. And even from a

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Christian background, what I've learned is that

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if we have faith in Him, we'll find Him everywhere.

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And there's no reason for us to fear some other

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language. And so, spirit to me is sorts. It's

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a unified soul that we all share, regardless

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of what our culture or our religion is. Other

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people who are non -religious may call it the

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universe. I actually... Really like physics myself,

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you know as a different kind of language. It's

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like how does this experience work and What is

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this world that we live in and how is that rendered

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for us? We don't necessarily have a really good

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language for a lot of these things and so I'd

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use the word spirit I've used the word magic

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then one of my two one of my two new books. I

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use the word armor Thank you that helps now I

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have to interject a little of my own belief here.

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And I try not to do this very often, okay? But

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if spirit to you is like God to me or to somebody

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else, I just can't wrap my mind around God telling

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you to jump from a bridge. Please explain how

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that could be a thing. Well, so I've done a lot

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of actually Transcendental Meditation and Buddhist

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practices, which involves really spilling the

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ego, and stealing that monkey mind, and listening,

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and learning to listen. That's also been nearer

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to the shamanic practices I've learned. It's

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about listening, about paying attention to the

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symbols that come forward, about learning what

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spirit's telling us. Really when it comes down

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to it, when I say that the spirit told me something,

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it's not words, I'm not hearing voices. It's

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not so literal like that. It's that I've got

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a still mind, a still way of being. I'm listening

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to my heart and I'm observing the symbols and

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visions that come forward. And then I'm putting

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those into words, into my own, you know. Sure.

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Okay. Okay. Let's talk about, you used the term

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vision, which sounded quite a bit like a life

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review. Would you say it's similar to a life

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review? The first... Sorry, the second death

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experience, the starvation death experience,

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was what I would consider a life review. It was

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looking at my past, it was looking very much

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at where I had been, and it was really centered

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for me at the time around regrets, or missed

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opportunity, or regrets for things that I had

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done. So that really looked more like a life

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review. And the third experience, the bridge

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experience, the life review was much more forward

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-looking. And so I'm not sure I would call that

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a life review in the same way. Okay. No, I get

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it. Sort of a forward -looking life review. Like

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if this had happened, then that would be a result.

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Is that kind of a thing? Sort of a cause and

00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:10.319
effect? Yeah. Okay. I like that. Another thing

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that some people are really going to have a hard

00:27:12.140 --> 00:27:16.049
time with. So let's talk about it. This is not

00:27:16.049 --> 00:27:20.589
me Giving cedar a hard time. Okay, we're just

00:27:20.589 --> 00:27:23.210
we're just talking through things that people

00:27:23.210 --> 00:27:27.349
are feeling right now You use the term resurrected

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Yes, sir for your body after jumping from the

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bridge and most people that believe in resurrection

00:27:33.890 --> 00:27:37.230
are gonna say No, no, no, no. No. Okay. Maybe

00:27:37.230 --> 00:27:40.650
you were healed but resurrected. That's a whole

00:27:40.650 --> 00:27:44.519
different thing So explain why you use that term.

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I have no other term for someone who is dead

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being brought back to life and You know, I really

00:27:53.220 --> 00:27:55.079
don't want it I really don't want to challenge

00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:58.279
people's belief structures and I mean even when

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you get into to scriptures Christ wasn't the

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only resurrection that's noted and You know,

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I this is a big one. This this is a big one for

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me to say I think this is really important I

00:28:10.180 --> 00:28:12.880
speak about these things as literal because they

00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:16.460
were literal for me. I really have nothing to

00:28:16.460 --> 00:28:19.599
prove to anyone else. There's no benefit for

00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.079
me to prove these ideas to anyone else. And I

00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:25.859
just hope that they can take on this story however

00:28:25.859 --> 00:28:28.200
they take it. And I hope it had value to them.

00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:30.660
You know, the themes are more important than

00:28:30.660 --> 00:28:34.940
the proving of something. As long as we're talking

00:28:34.940 --> 00:28:38.460
about proving, do you mind? And I'll edit this

00:28:38.460 --> 00:28:42.990
out. if you do mind. Do you mind if we talk about

00:28:42.990 --> 00:28:46.430
a medical diagnosis that you have had recently?

00:28:46.710 --> 00:28:50.910
Because to me, this shows you absolutely are,

00:28:51.650 --> 00:28:54.750
you're just trying to be honest. What's going

00:28:54.750 --> 00:28:59.009
on with you? Well, the end tale of it is called

00:28:59.009 --> 00:29:02.670
hypogonadism and cricaxia, which are two muscle

00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:06.130
wasting conditions. And they basically mean that

00:29:06.130 --> 00:29:09.819
my body is continually actively consuming the

00:29:09.819 --> 00:29:13.779
muscle, and the hypodonadism doesn't allow me

00:29:13.779 --> 00:29:16.960
to create new muscle. I'm currently in the one

00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:19.740
percentile for my age group. I've pretty much

00:29:19.740 --> 00:29:24.859
given everything that I have. And those two conditions

00:29:24.859 --> 00:29:27.960
are sourced from other chronic conditions, celiac

00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:32.880
disease, systemic bucus, COPD, a non -alcoholic

00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.200
fatty liver disease, and a couple of others.

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That's just my life and my karma. I was sort

00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:46.380
of born with it, and it got exacerbated through

00:29:46.380 --> 00:29:48.599
all kinds of things in my life, especially the

00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:54.079
art lifestyle. I was told just over a year ago

00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:58.619
that there was a 70 % chance of me dying by April

00:29:58.619 --> 00:30:03.440
of 2026. And here we are, it's July. This year

00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:06.259
I've got an updated prognosis. It says there's

00:30:06.259 --> 00:30:11.359
an 80 85 chance of me dying before June of 2027

00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:18.220
and The road doesn't end until it ends Keep proving

00:30:18.220 --> 00:30:20.880
them wrong my friend keep proving them and meanwhile,

00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:24.920
I'm going to complete everything that I can You

00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:28.519
know because coming to that point for me I understand

00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:31.579
that it's the worst suffering I've ever experienced

00:30:31.579 --> 00:30:33.599
in life and I've been for a fair share of what

00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.400
I call suffering is in the times up and having

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regrets and I definitely wouldn't wish that on

00:30:41.099 --> 00:30:44.240
anything. Here I am, I've written my autobiography,

00:30:44.460 --> 00:30:47.180
I've written Applied Karmic Magic which is the

00:30:47.180 --> 00:30:50.460
framework for something new and it's the real

00:30:50.460 --> 00:30:53.140
gift for others. There's a lot of other things

00:30:53.140 --> 00:30:55.559
for me to wrap up in this life still and a little

00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.509
more work for me to do at least. So it's a personal

00:30:59.509 --> 00:31:03.309
responsibility and it's actually in a way selfish

00:31:03.309 --> 00:31:08.549
because I know now when I go to face that day

00:31:08.549 --> 00:31:11.430
that I'm complete, that I did everything that

00:31:11.430 --> 00:31:13.190
I could and that I don't have to move forward

00:31:13.190 --> 00:31:16.369
with regrets even if something didn't succeed.

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Do you have any fear of death? No. No, not at

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all. You know, I've been through it enough times.

00:31:25.900 --> 00:31:29.460
There's nothing to fear on the other side of

00:31:29.460 --> 00:31:34.160
death at all. I'm still not certain there is

00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:39.160
such a thing in reality. I think it might be

00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.359
something we walk through, but I don't know any

00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:46.279
more than anyone else. Well, I can tell you I've

00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:48.319
interviewed hundreds of people who have been

00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.039
through it, and I've had it described in so many

00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.220
different ways. A lot of people have said it's

00:31:56.220 --> 00:31:59.259
just like walking through a doorway. Yep. It

00:31:59.259 --> 00:32:04.279
is just that simple. Now, unfortunately with

00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:06.619
our physical bodies sometimes there's some pain

00:32:06.619 --> 00:32:09.720
associated with getting to that point. Nobody

00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:13.180
looks forward to that. But walking through a

00:32:13.180 --> 00:32:17.460
doorway into a better place is pretty nice thing.

00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:22.259
And, and we're putting that off as long as we

00:32:22.259 --> 00:32:25.259
can. That's right. That's what we're here on

00:32:25.259 --> 00:32:27.980
this earth for. We're not here to jump out of

00:32:27.980 --> 00:32:30.380
it. We're here to experience everything that

00:32:30.380 --> 00:32:34.339
we're meant to experience here. So I hope all

00:32:34.339 --> 00:32:36.180
these things that you're wrapping up, that you're

00:32:36.180 --> 00:32:38.720
doing them slowly enough that you're with us

00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:41.779
as much longer as possible. Thanks. Thanks. Me

00:32:41.779 --> 00:32:45.079
too. You know, I'm grateful for every day and

00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:46.799
you know, I couldn't agree with what you said

00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:52.140
more about it. So for those that are struggling

00:32:52.140 --> 00:32:56.859
with life right now, as you have at many times,

00:32:57.259 --> 00:32:59.279
give us some kind of a message of hope. What

00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.640
is there to look forward to and to keep working

00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:05.420
for? Well, all the greatest gifts in my life

00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:08.440
have actually come through suffering. And it's

00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.839
not to make light of suffering. Suffering is

00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.579
not easy. But every time I have found a gift,

00:33:14.740 --> 00:33:17.970
it's been in the darkest points of my life. Every

00:33:17.970 --> 00:33:20.970
time I've received a lesson, it's been from the

00:33:20.970 --> 00:33:23.809
suffering that I've experienced. There's a reason

00:33:23.809 --> 00:33:26.309
for this suffering. It's not that suffering is

00:33:26.309 --> 00:33:28.849
good. I can't say that to people. I don't wish

00:33:28.849 --> 00:33:31.670
suffering on anyone. But when it does happen,

00:33:31.730 --> 00:33:34.630
sometimes it's necessary. And the rewards are

00:33:34.630 --> 00:33:37.569
worth more. And that kind of goes back to something

00:33:37.569 --> 00:33:39.930
people would commonly say, you know, we take

00:33:39.930 --> 00:33:42.930
the bad with the good, enjoy the miracles that

00:33:42.930 --> 00:33:45.789
this life has to offer, and just live it all

00:33:45.789 --> 00:33:50.440
whole. Well Cedar, you're an inspiration. I appreciate

00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.980
all that you're doing. Any last thoughts you

00:33:52.980 --> 00:33:56.599
want to leave us with today? Love is the alchemy.

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Let's return to love. Love yourself. Love those

00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:03.700
all around you. Love the spirits that you believe

00:34:03.700 --> 00:34:06.880
in. Operate from love. Don't follow the fears.

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And that's about all I could really say. Thanks

00:34:11.980 --> 00:34:14.380
again for listening and sharing this podcast.

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