"I Saw A Shimmering City" - Aaron's NDE

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From the time that they pronounced me dead was

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a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then

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they paddled my heart. My heart had stopped and

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I could see people screaming and crying but I

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didn't realize that was actually my physical

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body because I was somewhere else. The only thing

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that I could feel if you could imagine absolute

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love and peace there wasn't anything else to

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be felt. I was greeted by people I had known

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in the past. I'm back home again. Incredibly

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safe and felt at home. Welcome, welcome to Round

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Trip Death, everybody. Happy to have our special

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guest today, Aaron Gould, coming to us from Southern

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California. How are you, Aaron? Good, and yourselves?

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Fantastic. Did you make it to the beach over

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the weekend? Not yet. Mondays are usually our

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beach day. The weekends are too... busy this

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time of year it's packed even on the weekdays

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it's packed i mean our listeners don't know this

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but we happen to be recording on a monday so

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i hope you have a fantastic time there later

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on and yeah and i'm enjoying the mountains here

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they're beautiful we have a little smoke probably

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blowing in from your state or someplace but Anyway,

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hey, before we jump into your experience, which

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people are going to absolutely love and they're

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going to love you, Aaron, would you take just

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a minute and tell us a little bit about you so

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we can get to know you? I'm a native Californian,

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born and raised here. A lot of my family migrated

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here. My grandparents from Ohio or whatever,

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but they came out here for the nut farms and

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had a chocolate factory back in Ohio. It's neither

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here nor there. So in California, I've been here

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most of my life, raised Christian, but not really

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involved in any church. As a child, I've been

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to a few here and there. So I had a couple instances

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as a child where it was revealed to me that I

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believe that there is a strong spirit. there's

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definitely, you know, more to this story. So

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as I got older, I started digging, you know,

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researching all the different religions and I

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mean, going back as far as the Sumerians and

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trying to study some stuff there. And there was

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a lot of information down in a lot of rabbit

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holes. Then it all came back to one, you know,

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there was just like the one source that worked

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for you. Yeah. Let's talk about near death experiences.

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And whether yours fits the classic definition

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or not, doesn't really matter. It's an amazing

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experience. And I believe you were eight years

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old. Tell me what was going on at the time. What

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were you sick from? They say pneumonia. I mean,

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it was kind of wild because I was in the, this

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was in the Palm Springs area, the desert hospital.

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And they had me in there for like two weeks on

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IV only. allowed anything but IVs and they were

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drawing blood like twice a day so I was just

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like withering away because there was times where

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they'd come in one nurse would come in and draw

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my blood in the morning and another nurse would

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come in they didn't know that the first nurse

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had already been there I'm like freaking out

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as a kid screaming for my mom you know like they've

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already taken too much leave me alone Basically

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the doctors told my mom they didn't they didn't

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know why I was fading There was nothing they

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could do. So basically go say your goodbyes But

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but the underlying thing was pneumonia Right.

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That's where yeah from what I understood about

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it was pneumonia And yeah, so when they told

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my mom to say goodbyes, you know, she came in

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and gave me a last wish Basically and I was like

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food So she went out and liked the Denny's or

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whatever and brought me a, you know, stack of

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pancakes, eggs, bacon, like the works. And the

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doctors were so mad at her, you know, and the

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nurses, they were all, you could hear them just

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talking about my mom being such a disruption

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to the hospital's routines and stuff. But it

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actually. I mean after I ate I felt better but

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you know when I was in there withering away I

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was I had no energy. I was in and out of consciousness

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a lot during those two weeks. I've met with people

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that have had an NDE while they've been in some

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kind of a deep coma. How did yours come about?

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I wouldn't say I was in a coma. I was just in

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and out of consciousness. I mean I was really

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really weak. So, I mean, I would say it was more

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like dream states. Definitely, I was probably

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on the verge of death at that time. But then

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after that, I've had reoccurring times where

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I've been to the same place. So, it's kind of

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interesting, the journey. Well, that is interesting

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and it's a little bit unusual. I've heard of

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it before where people had an NDE and then through

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a dream or a meditative state or something else

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later in life they sort of got to relive that.

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We're beating around the bush here. Let's go

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ahead and jump into what you experienced. Okay

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well yeah the first time was less control. The

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other times that I ventured or had these experiences,

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I was in a little more control. I could step

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outside and look at it as a bigger picture. But

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the first time it was just like the light at

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the end of the tunnel. I was just traveling through

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this light. We see that it's like just real bright

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and then it drops here at a tree. I started off

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at a tree. Then it's just like all of a sudden

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you're at this tree, you know, and everything

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is dark around you I called it like the glass

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house is what I would call it because right after

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you're at the tree and if you're looking out

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You see these things shimmering, you know, and

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it looks like glass and you hear water but all

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the senses were The same it was it was really

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amazing. That's the hardest thing to explain

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is the senses of Everything is alive. You feel

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connected to everything, even the water, the

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tree. You know everything is everything. Best

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way I can explain it, I guess. So I saw this,

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what would look like a city or glass houses and

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shimmering off in the distance. So you're kind

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of guided to it because it looks more, you're

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in this dark area and you don't have a clue what's

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going on. So I was kind of like gravitated towards

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that. And what I noticed was the first time was

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that my thought would guide me there. You hear

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the water and you see the shimmering on the ground.

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Everything was lighting up as you would step

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or whatever, you know, so it would kind of guide

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you. And they were like almost like a movie theater

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lights where you're being guided down a path.

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And then I would come up to stairwell to where

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what I call the mother of creation. I would say

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Father Time was there too, the creator too, because

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there was like that connectedness, but I met

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with the mother first. It was definitely a divine

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being. There's no facial features or anything,

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but it was also that shimmering kind of darkness,

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but it was like a light being. These are the

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things that make it really hard to explain. did

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this as you call the mother. Were you actually

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seeing like a female figure or just feeling this?

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You said it felt like home. What else or what

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are your senses telling you? It was divine in

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nature. It was definitely divine in nature. So

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like a feminine attribute to it. But when I wouldn't

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have that type of like, you know, distinguishing

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it like that over there matters really. But It

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wasn't the father. It was definitely probably

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the mother. It was like the comforting, you know,

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you felt like you were home, but you don't see

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him speaking to you. It's just there's this connection

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and the thoughts, you know, come, you question

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and you get answers or whatever. And I sat and

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talked with her for a while at the staircase

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at the top of like what seemed like a stairwell.

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We're like a bench or whatever, you know, like

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everything had like a structure. but it wasn't.

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It was like flowing and shimmering water is the

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best way I could describe it. I don't know. It's

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really hard to explain that. I used to call it

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the glass house. That was when I was like eight.

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I called it the glass house. That was the best

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thing I could come up with. When I was later

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in life, in my 20s, I heard a shaman when I was

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doing some research, and they would do these

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what they called ayahuasca trips or whatever.

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which I was never brave enough to go down that

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route, but I heard the shaman mention and he

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called it the shimmering darkness. I said, wow,

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that hits. When he was explaining his experiences

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and with the Divine Mother, and I was like, okay,

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maybe that's where I was. Then fast forward even

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further, I now would call it the celestial buildings.

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I met with the mother there and One thing that

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I just felt like home and I wanted to continue

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on. It felt like I was stopped and she was telling

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me that it's not my time, it was not my place

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and that I needed to go back. And I'm like, what?

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No. I felt like I was being denied access to

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heaven or something at that time. I didn't understand

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it. And then I would just, you know, be transported

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back and here I am back in the earthly realm.

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Before you move on I want to dig into this just

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a little bit if you don't mind. What other kinds

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of things were discussed back and forth besides

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you needed to go back? Well that was the main

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thing is a lot of that I don't recall. It was

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like you know bits and pieces in my memory. But

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when I would go back the other times there was

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oh it always ended the same. That everything

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was going to be okay. That was like the last,

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right before waking up or being transported back

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to my body, that was where it was. It was the

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last imprinted on me. Like everything's going

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to be okay. Which is kind of funny because once

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when I was in probably late 30s, I was truck

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driving. I had a girlfriend that passed away

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that I didn't know about yet, but I was truck

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driving. I was on the 15 and I pulled over some

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like little truck stop in Nephi or somewhere,

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you know, just to park and sleep and I woke up

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to Mid conversation like I was sitting up in

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my cab in the bed of the cab of the truck and

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I was talking to somebody and I remember like

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having that conversation. I was having a conversation

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with this woman, but The last thing that was

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said was everything's gonna be okay and I'll

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see you at the starlit trail. And I was like,

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so I wake up and I'm looking around like there's

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someone in my truck with me. This is weird, you

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know, because I woke up in a panic like who was

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in my truck? I should be alone. So I'm looking

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out the windows and looking out the windows,

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you know, and unknown to me as I'm driving down

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and I'm getting closer into the California area

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or leaving state of Utah. My wife calls. And

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she says, have you heard? And I'm like, no. She's

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like, you know, Jill died. She was in a car wreck.

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And she took an eight -year -old with her, you

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know? And I was just like, wow. I was like, I

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already knew that. She's like, I already knew.

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Who's Jill? This was a girlfriend of mine that

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I had, a girl I tried helping along my journey.

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Yeah, we just had, we were connected, I think.

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It was a connection that we had. So when she

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passed, I think I was visited. I mean, I would...

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almost guaranteed that was her that was talking

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to me because it it was weird because she did

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actually I did um take her over the road with

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me to see the country when I was a truck driver

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to keep her out of the drug scene so I tried

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saving her but then she ended up going back to

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it and then that happened you said I believe

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I jotted it down here I'll see you at the start

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of the trail the startlet trail Oh, the starlit

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trail. Thank you. The starlit trail. What do

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you think that meant? I think, like I said, I

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had the reoccurring vision or near -death experiences.

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When I've gone other times and had the out -of

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-body, I've been able to view it from like the

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outside too. And that tunnel, I would say, is

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a starlit trail because you're traveling at the

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speed of, I mean, probably faster than light

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when you're going there, where there's that light

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at the end of the tunnel. You're traveling in

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space. It's like you're going back to the beginning.

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The creation of everything is how I'd explain

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it. Because when I've looked at it from the outside,

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it looks like the stars make a tree, actual tree

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shape. Like it's just all scattered out like

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branches. But there's a main, you know, there's

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a main line that goes right back to the beginning.

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From the tree or to the tree? Well, you've traveled

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through the tree, you're traveling up the tree

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stem, and that's where you drop when you get

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to the beginning, you start off with a tree there.

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You pop up and there's a tree there already around

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you in this vast darkness, like I said, but the

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tree has shimmering too. I don't know. Pictures

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I have, I could probably... Find real quick like

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stuff I find on Pinterest that I like that, you

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know how it looked I'll just have you send me

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those and we'll try to post it with this later

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I'm gonna I'm gonna let you Sort of draw on all

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three of these experiences Okay Sounds like you

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learned a little bit more detail the second and

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the third time around as these things were sort

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of relived It did, because I was viewing it.

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I slowed it down, I guess. The first time, I

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didn't even feel like I was in control. I was

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being pulled. The other times, it felt like I

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had more control. I don't know what it was that

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caused it in my life, I mean, because I've been

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down some dark roads. I don't know what and where,

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what time it was, but there's been multiple times

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where I've relived it and it's like, okay, this

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is weird, you know? I don't think I ever heard

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anyone ever explain it until more recently, like

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until my later years. Have you told many people

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about this? Not really. No. No, because I mean,

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my mom told her and she doesn't understand it.

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She doesn't. I mean, some people we get here

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on the show have written books and they've been

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on other podcasts and stuff like that. And we

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love them. And that's wonderful. And they can

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be quite eloquent in telling their story because

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they've done it a hundred times. Right. I'm not

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very good at this. For you, this is new. No,

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that's okay. Because it's real. And people can

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tell it's real, partially because it's hard to

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put into words. And I appreciate you having the

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confidence in this being a safe space to share

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this with publicly, really for the first time.

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I think sharing it, I think any knowledge that

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we gain, even though I don't know for a fact

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what it was, but I mean, I think we should always

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share our knowledge freely. Yeah. Well, let's

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talk through it and maybe we can help you understand

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even more of it. You mentioned hearing water,

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seeing glass buildings. Think about any more

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detail you can remember. that we can put together

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a visual image in our minds of what you saw.

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Yeah. That was the majority of that area, what

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you would call the Celestial Kingdom or whatever.

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But I've never been past that. I've only been

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to the entrance of the city and denied access.

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So the city was like a heavenly place, you believe?

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there was definitely, it

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felt familiar. There was life. You could hear

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that there was other people there. You know,

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there was something there that pulled you to

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it. But I think it's more of the things of this

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earth. You know, everything was lit up, glowing.

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You know, it was kind of like the laughter and

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all the sadness. Everything was in there. It

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was all combined. And it felt like home, but

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not like our earth. You know, it was more our

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earthly home than our heavenly home. It's like

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midway. I guess maybe yeah. Why do you think

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you couldn't go past it? Is that because you

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had to come back? Yeah, cuz I had I was told

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to come back Yeah, that my you know, my my work

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wasn't done here. So Whatever that be I didn't

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want to come back. I wanted to stay which is

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weird I mean you think about it. I mean you being

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a young child or even later in life when I've

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gone there and had children of my own here. That

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wasn't even the feeling that you have there is

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it's like, it's you are home. The things of the

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earth, you're like, forget it. It doesn't mean

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you don't love your children. Right. I know.

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But most people would think that's, you know,

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like kind of odd. You know, a lot of people grieve

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when they lose someone, but I felt like This

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was a celebration, like I'm home. It's like,

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why can't I go? I don't understand. What did

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I do wrong? Am I really that bad? That's how

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my mind played with it when I was younger. But

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it was neat though because it was like eight

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years old. So from that point on, I always felt

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like I had like a guardian angel or I had a belief

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in a higher power at a very young age. Like I

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said, I was raised Christian, but I'm not sure

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it was real. We didn't really practice anything.

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I didn't understand it. It was just going with

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the flow. Things are just an easy label to throw

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out there. Oh yeah, we're Christian. I didn't

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fully understand it until I was eight, that there

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was an actual creator of everything. And that

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they were watching me. That was never alone.

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That's kind of like that feeling I had. I was

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never alone. I could make it through anything.

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Because they didn't want me back there, basically.

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It was my motto. So I felt invincible at that

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point. Death didn't want me. I would say most

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religions teach that there's one God. Right.

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Now, you've just used the term they. and you've

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talked about a female deity as well as a male

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deity. From the things that you've learned, can

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you help put that all together for us? Yeah,

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I'm not sure why that's the way it went. I mean,

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I don't know if that's what I needed at the time,

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but I feel that in my beliefs, I feel that if

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there's a father, there's a mother. It's just,

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it's the way the universe works. There's a positive,

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there's a negative. There's always the duality.

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What else did you learn from all this? Oh boy.

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I'm still learning. Good. We all should be. Yeah,

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I'm still learning. I mean like I'm a recent

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convert to a new religion that in the scriptures

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it speaks of this vision and I'm not in the words

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I'm using, but I can picture what they're writing.

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And it's like, okay, I'm not alone. I've only

00:21:07.059 --> 00:21:12.299
been studying that book for a year or two years

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now, maybe three, like solid, three years. Yeah,

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being a recent convert to it. So it's like, I

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missed, I mean, it wasn't meant for me. And there's

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explanations in the... scriptures that I've read

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as why it wasn't, because I should have come

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to, you know, rot or stood by the tree, stayed

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by the tree or things like that. You know, there's

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like that I've learned, I think, is that city

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was not meant for me. At least at that time.

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Maybe it's meant for you later. Maybe it could

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be. I mean, either way, it felt familiar and

00:21:54.450 --> 00:22:01.170
then, you know, I gravitated towards it. I don't

00:22:01.170 --> 00:22:06.730
think there's a hell. Most people would label

00:22:06.730 --> 00:22:09.130
it or the way most people look at it, because

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I don't believe that. But nothing that I've seen

00:22:12.710 --> 00:22:16.549
has ever showed me that that is real. I mean,

00:22:16.549 --> 00:22:19.750
we might create our own miseries and stuff in

00:22:19.750 --> 00:22:22.869
the end, but I think we're going to judge ourselves

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more than our father would. So having an experience

00:22:26.670 --> 00:22:29.069
like this when you were young, I mean, eight

00:22:29.069 --> 00:22:31.869
years old, after that, you were different than

00:22:31.869 --> 00:22:35.029
the other kids. Was there, I don't know, how

00:22:35.029 --> 00:22:38.410
did that affect you socially? Not bad. I mean,

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I've always, I've just always had that attitude.

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No matter what, everything's going to be okay.

00:22:45.109 --> 00:22:48.170
No matter what. Like I'm not, I don't fear, I

00:22:48.170 --> 00:22:51.029
don't fear death. I don't fear certain things

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that a lot of people do. I definitely know. in

00:22:55.140 --> 00:22:59.059
my heart that there's something bigger and it's

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out there and I have a connection with it. It's

00:23:02.900 --> 00:23:06.839
empowered me, I think. Okay. Anything else before

00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:11.099
we wrap up? No, I mean, yeah. I mean, my mother

00:23:11.099 --> 00:23:14.339
would probably say, I mean, like when I try to

00:23:14.339 --> 00:23:17.420
tell her the story about the vine, she's like,

00:23:18.180 --> 00:23:22.779
no, no way, no way. She won't hear it, but...

00:23:22.410 --> 00:23:25.930
I've found in certain, I mean, I have some old

00:23:25.930 --> 00:23:30.410
bios from the 1800s here. There is talk of her.

00:23:31.309 --> 00:23:34.450
All right. Well, again, I appreciate you sharing.

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It's not easy to do for the first time, knowing

00:23:38.170 --> 00:23:40.509
that thousands of people out there are going

00:23:40.509 --> 00:23:43.670
to hear this thing. I'm going to give you the

00:23:43.670 --> 00:23:46.630
last word. Leave us with some wisdom, with some

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kind of a message of hope. Maybe someone just

00:23:49.829 --> 00:23:52.809
doesn't believe that there's any kind of an afterlife.

00:23:53.190 --> 00:23:56.309
I think you've seen some of it. Yeah, I've definitely

00:23:56.309 --> 00:23:59.230
seen some of it. All things brought together

00:23:59.230 --> 00:24:03.630
through God are good, as Romans 8 to 8. I wouldn't

00:24:03.630 --> 00:24:06.349
have said that, you know, 20 years ago because

00:24:06.349 --> 00:24:08.910
I was researching everything. I mean, I was at

00:24:08.910 --> 00:24:12.849
one point I was agnostic or atheist or Buddhist

00:24:12.849 --> 00:24:15.170
or, you know, I've been everywhere, down every

00:24:15.170 --> 00:24:18.859
rabbit hole. But in the end there is always it

00:24:18.859 --> 00:24:22.079
comes back to the one the one true God How did

00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:26.000
you find truth this time? I found it in the LDS

00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:29.960
faith When I hit my knees and surrendered my

00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:34.680
will literally Like five minutes later. They

00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.599
knocked at my door Go ahead and tell us that

00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:40.220
story These are my grandparents right here. They

00:24:40.220 --> 00:24:42.319
built this whole neighborhood. They built cities

00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:45.339
and stuff. When my grandma, my grandpa passed

00:24:45.339 --> 00:24:49.180
in 2016, the same year as my father, when grandma

00:24:49.180 --> 00:24:54.059
passed in 2022, we came up here and I realized

00:24:54.059 --> 00:24:56.759
that everyone was after everything that they

00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:59.799
had. There's a trust and stuff like that, but

00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:03.519
there was still stuff that was being attacked.

00:25:03.769 --> 00:25:06.490
We're still in court battles and probate over

00:25:06.490 --> 00:25:09.509
this house that I'm in right now because the

00:25:09.509 --> 00:25:12.230
next -door neighbor wants everything for some

00:25:12.230 --> 00:25:15.009
reason. I was being lied to and I didn't feel

00:25:15.009 --> 00:25:18.410
like my mom was on the right side of that either

00:25:18.410 --> 00:25:21.730
because I couldn't get any straight answers from

00:25:21.730 --> 00:25:25.690
a lot of people. I was just here and after so

00:25:25.690 --> 00:25:28.690
many things have just surrounded me, I felt like

00:25:28.690 --> 00:25:32.059
the adversary was just all around me. I earnestly

00:25:32.059 --> 00:25:34.500
hit my knees to pray, and I was like, God, I

00:25:34.500 --> 00:25:38.220
need truth. Where is the truth? Where's the light

00:25:38.220 --> 00:25:42.539
at the end of this tunnel? Literally, five minutes

00:25:42.539 --> 00:25:44.539
later, I had missionaries knocking at my door

00:25:44.539 --> 00:25:47.720
looking for somebody else that was a squatter

00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.900
in this house at one point in the past that I

00:25:50.900 --> 00:25:53.160
learned about through the missionaries. I was

00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.500
like, okay, because I did have squatters here

00:25:55.500 --> 00:25:58.970
as soon as my grandmother passed. There was squatters

00:25:58.970 --> 00:26:01.730
in this house too, I had to get rid of. There

00:26:01.730 --> 00:26:04.430
was some trials that we, you know, I had to relocate

00:26:04.430 --> 00:26:07.309
down here to protect the house. But yeah, so

00:26:07.309 --> 00:26:10.150
they came and they knocked on the door literally

00:26:10.150 --> 00:26:12.390
five minutes later and I said, okay, God, I'm

00:26:12.390 --> 00:26:17.009
listening. I'm listening. Go ahead. And then

00:26:17.009 --> 00:26:20.730
from then on, yeah, I was baptized and changed

00:26:20.730 --> 00:26:24.690
my life around completely. I guess the bottom

00:26:24.690 --> 00:26:26.789
line for everybody out there is keep searching

00:26:26.789 --> 00:26:30.569
for truth. Truth. Yeah, the truth. Definitely.

00:26:31.170 --> 00:26:35.369
And I found it. I'm positive I found it because

00:26:35.369 --> 00:26:38.890
what I've read in scriptures in this book is

00:26:38.890 --> 00:26:43.930
basically what I just talked about written hundreds

00:26:43.930 --> 00:26:47.049
of years ago in their best ability that they

00:26:47.049 --> 00:26:49.789
could write it back then that I couldn't even

00:26:49.789 --> 00:26:53.809
do today. So I mean, I appreciate it so much

00:26:53.809 --> 00:26:56.450
more. Yeah. And you were telling me earlier that

00:26:56.450 --> 00:27:01.210
it was like a What you read was almost just like

00:27:01.210 --> 00:27:03.950
this vision that you had had. Just put a little

00:27:03.950 --> 00:27:07.509
bit more eloquently. Yeah, interesting. Yeah.

00:27:07.849 --> 00:27:10.309
All right. Aaron, I appreciate your time. Enjoy

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the beach this afternoon. Thanks. All right.

00:27:13.670 --> 00:27:17.930
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