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From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes.
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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.
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And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my
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physical body because I was somewhere else.
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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't
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anything else to be felt.
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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.
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I'm back home again.
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Incredibly safe and felt at home.
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Welcome to a bonus episode of Round Trip Death and part two of our interview with Megan Brown.
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If you missed part one, which came out just three or four days ago, it's episode number
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three fifty-two and I would recommend listening to it first.
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Now let's pick up where we left off.
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They brought me into heaven.
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As a visitor, so I visited heaven and I remember a few things that happened while I was in
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there.
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All right, let's keep going.
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What do you remember?
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Okay, so I remember there was one point where everybody had to take violin lessons because
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the violin in heaven, it balances your left side and your right side, your female and
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your male side, your chakras, your meridians, your soul, it balances your soul.
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It aligns you with love is what it did.
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That's what it represents in heaven.
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So you have to take violin lessons and what is so funny is when I sat down to take my
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lesson Mozart is the one who writes all of the music.
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So automatically I sat down, I knew exactly how to play violin.
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It was pretty amazing.
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So all of us, I don't know how many of us there were, but there were multiple souls around
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with the music stand in front of them with the music sheet, reading what our music was
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and God and Goddess were sitting in these huge chairs in the front.
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And I don't know where I was in there, like how far back I was, but at the end, I remember
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at the end, God and Goddess were very happy that everybody had played such beautiful music
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because Mozart, as he told me, because I met with him too, he told me, he said, my music,
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I created the highest frequency of love, 528.
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And I thought, wow, here I am sitting with Mozart.
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But before I get there, when we were done playing the music, all of a sudden, I remember
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hearing slapping, like this wing gush, slapping, and I looked up and there were archangels.
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There were all of these archangels flying in and they stood on tears.
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And I don't remember, there were many archangels.
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I don't remember how many there were.
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I don't think all 1000 were there.
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I don't remember though, there were so many.
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And it was amazing how this happened.
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All of a sudden, they started singing, but it was this voice that was a note that doesn't
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exist.
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It does not exist.
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It was literally angelic and it was so powerful.
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It was so incredibly powerful how it made my soul feel.
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I can't speak for anybody else that witnessed it there, but I can definitely speak for myself
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and say that I was absolutely amazed with the power of that note.
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Have you tried to recreate it here?
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You said it's impossible, but have you tried or listened to all kinds of music trying to
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find it?
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No.
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But you know, it's interesting.
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I just thought of something.
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When you ask me that question, there are two notes that they told me.
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It was, I believe it was C sharp and B flat.
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And you play the three octaves on the piano.
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You can only play it on the piano or the organ or keyboard of some sort, right?
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You play these notes.
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So you're playing six and it opens the pathway into heaven.
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So if you wanted to sit and meditate, I'm not kidding.
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You want to sit and meditate and you want to get into heaven and you want to get heaven's
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messages.
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And I used to do this when I did my readings for people because I got the ability to do
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that after this.
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So I tried it for a while.
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I don't, I don't need to do it every time, but I got to start doing that again.
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But if you play those three notes, it opens the pathway to heaven.
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So which three?
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C sharp, B flat.
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What was the other one?
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That's it.
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Those two, but you play all three octaves.
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Oh, okay.
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On the piano.
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Yeah.
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I'm just making a note of that here.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I should, I should let our listeners know you've called this the, your five days in
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heaven.
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Yes.
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That, because they're wondering where is this going to end?
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Cause this is a lot longer than most experiences that we hear.
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This podcast isn't going to go for five whole days.
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That's, don't worry about that, but let's keep going.
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What happened next?
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So you know the, you know the violin now, your buddies with Mozart.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So I'll, yeah, I'll tell you, speaking of Mozart, I'll tell you how that happened.
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So I got called into temple again, back to where I met in the beginning of getting into
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heaven.
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And this time it was just me, Mozart and Bach.
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And I thought, why am I meeting with Mozart and Bach?
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I mean, it's fascinating.
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I thought, because I was married to a musician, I thought maybe that's why they're having
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me meet with musicians.
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I didn't know.
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So I sat there and I thought, okay, what are they going to tell me?
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I don't know how long this went on for, but we sat there and they went into great detail
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about changes that were coming to earth and changes that I needed to be aware of.
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And the only changes that I can remember them talking about were warnings and money, currency
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on earth.
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They said that there is one currency that is trying to come in, that they're trying
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to infiltrate earth with.
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And I don't remember what else they said about that specifically, but I do remember that
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they said, save your coins.
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You're going to need your coins.
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It wasn't until I had my store in Sedona and I went into the bank and as I'm approaching
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the bank during COVID, it was after, you know, there was a period that I was shut down for
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two months, but I went to the bank to go get coins.
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And there was a sign on the door, you know, that they taped up there saying, we have a
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shortage of coins going on.
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Please, you know, this is for businesses only.
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And I thought, oh my God.
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I'm going to start and block, blow and flood it into my head.
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So I had been saving coins.
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I'd already started saving coins, but I started every penny, every dime, every nickel I'd come
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across.
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I put it in with my other coins because I don't know, you know, what that's, what that's
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going to come to.
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But God also, I forgot back in temple when I was sitting there, God said to me plant seeds
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and save food.
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You're going to need it and water.
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And I thought, really?
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And I don't remember when it's going to happen.
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I don't remember how, but he told me that importing, exporting is going to stop.
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He told me a lot of stuff that I'm kind of afraid to say, you know, because I'm not into
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politics.
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I'm not into any of that, you know.
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So I don't want anybody to think, oh, well, she's this side of the, you know.
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Yeah.
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But basically it was a, hey, be prepared because something may be coming.
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Oh, something will be coming.
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It's not me.
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It's something will be coming.
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Something will be coming.
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Yes.
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Did he give you any idea of when?
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That's what people are going to want to know.
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When or what?
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Well, he, I'm sure he told me when, but they don't allow me to remember everything.
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It's probably better.
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Right.
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And in other words, I don't remember when it, if he did tell me when, but he did tell
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me.
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I remember, oh, so well, loud and clear, save food, save seeds, plant a garden, save water,
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and be prepared.
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I think that's always good advice.
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Whether you believe something's coming down the pike or not, I think that's always good
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advice.
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Yes.
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And COVID taught us some of that too.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Save toilet paper.
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You should have put that on the list.
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I know, right?
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I didn't even, such an early thing, I guess.
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Okay.
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Keep going.
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Let's see.
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So I met with Mozart and Bach.
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Oh, and then at the end, so as we're talking, all of a sudden God boom just appears and
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he's standing.
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It was Bach on my left.
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I'm sitting between Bach and Mozart.
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Mozart was to my right as we were talking.
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And all of a sudden to the right of Mozart, along the side of the table, God's table,
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God appears and he's standing there.
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And we all immediately stood up and bowed and, and he said, please sit down.
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And we all sat down and we're staring at him.
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And he looked at me and he said, Megan, come forward please.
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And I thought, no, no, no, not God.
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He's so intense.
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You know, what is he going to tell me now?
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So I, I walked up in front of him and I stood before him and he looked at me and he says,
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what have you learned?
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So he was testing me.
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He was testing to see if I was paying attention.
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So I told him, and I remember like immediately saying, well, I have to say, my coins and
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currency is going to change on earth and extinction.
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That was the other thing that, that Bach and Mozart were telling me about that I reported
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to God as of here, you know, hearing with them.
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Extinction, languages becoming extinct from the very beginning.
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The first language is Latin.
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Throughout every all, Latin was the only language.
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Latin is the first language create from the creator.
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It began with Latin.
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Latin broke off into many different languages.
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It then broke off into Italian.
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I think Italian was next.
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And then it broke off into these other languages because people were separating themselves.
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That's a whole other conversation.
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But God said, okay, so you've been listening.
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The extinction, right?
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And the extinction of humanity and the extinction of currency, the extinction of language, the
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extinction of tribes, the extinction of religion, the extinction of practices.
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I'm standing there and he said, okay, all right, well, you're going to go back and you're
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going to talk about this stuff.
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I thought, oh my God, no, I can't.
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I mean, what do you want me to do?
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This is people are going to get upset by this.
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And, you know, I don't want to upset anybody.
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And so God just looked at me and I started to cry.
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I just started crying.
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And he looked at me and he said, Megan, why are you crying?
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And I said, because this is the toughest job interview I've ever been on in my life and
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I don't want to f**k it up.
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And he looked at me and he smiled and he put his hands on my shoulders and he said, I have
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absolute faith in you.
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I've hired a prom.
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And he leaned forward and he gave me a kiss on my forehead.
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I thought, God, just kissed my forehead.
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Oh, the pressure's on.
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You know?
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So I remember that happening.
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Then I remember, and this is all probably out of order, you know, of when these things
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took place.
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But I'm going to jump to walking down the sidewalk there in heaven.
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And all of a sudden looking up and in front of me was Freddie Mercury.
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And I thought, oh my gosh, Freddie Mercury, really?
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I've been a fan since age 11.
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Are you kidding me?
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You know, I've met loads of famous people, right?
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What we consider famous people.
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But Freddie Mercury, this is a guy that I wanted to talk to.
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I mean, amazing.
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So he looks at me and he says, hi, how are you?
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And I said, oh my God, I feel like, crap, I'm in Chidney Valley on the earth right now.
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It's so painful.
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And I'm telling you this whole thing.
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And he said, OK, well, do you want to have some fun?
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And I said, yes, I would love to.
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So he took my hand and he turned around and we just walked side by side.
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And we walked to this outdoor arena.
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It was a concert arena, you know, like an amphitheater.
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And all of a sudden, I don't know how he disappeared.
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But here I am in the audience with all of these other souls wearing these white robes.
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And Freddie Mercury was gone.
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But all of a sudden this show started.
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It was literally a show.
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But it opened with Spike Jonze and Billy Barty.
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And what's funny is I met Billy Barty when I was a kid.
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I was selling raffle tickets to my chili cook-off.
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So I mean, it was just funny.
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So here I am watching you on stage now, but this time he's with Spike Jonze doing their
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skit from their show that they had in the 40s or 50s, whatever it was.
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So it opened with them.
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And then it went into Ella Fitzgerald and Cole Porter.
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And she was singing.
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And I mean, could he get any better?
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I don't know.
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But it did.
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It got better and better.
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And then I remember the band, the band called Queen in the Heavens.
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Version then it was, of course, Freddie Mercury on piano and Lee Bockels.
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But Marvin Gaye was on piano as well.
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Rick James was playing guitar and doing his dancing.
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Terry Cath from Chicago was on bass.
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Buddy Rich was on drums.
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And it was amazing.
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This was the greatest concert I've ever been to.
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I mean, I can just tell you.
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Heaven.
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It was great.
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It was a great concert.
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So after the concert was over, I remember being inside the tent where I had to stay.
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And there were the 27 archangels who were in the beginning in Temple when I got to Heaven.
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They were sitting in this tent.
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But then Ella Fitzgerald was there.
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Terry Cath and Freddie Mercury were sitting straight across from me at this table.
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And then, gosh, who else was there?
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I mean, Marvin Gaye and, you know, all these souls that were there.
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Buddy Rich, he was really quiet, as a matter of fact.
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Billy Barty was there.
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And we all just, you know, started talking and laughing and having a great time.
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And we were eating bread.
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I remember bread in these baskets on the table.
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But the table was really big.
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I mean, it was huge.
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And then these cherubs would come in and fill up our glasses with red wine.
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And the decanter, there was a decanter on the table.
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It was crystal.
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And they'd fill it with red wine.
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So we were drinking wine and eating bread, telling stories, talking about past lives
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with each other.
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I was married to Marvin Gaye in another life.
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Terry Cath and I were brother and sister in another life.
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You know, it's like, you know, who was the husband?
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Who was the wife?
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I don't know.
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What was our, I don't remember all of that.
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But it was really interesting.
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It was really a lot of fun.
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But all of a sudden, all of these cherubs start flying into the tent and the tent is
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lighting up and getting whiter and whiter and in walks Prophet Muhammad.
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And every one of us immediately stood and we all, you know, were welcoming him respectfully,
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knowing he is the highest frequency of love again, who was sent to earth.
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He is, as heaven told me, the equal of Jesus Christ.
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He said in terms of love frequency, he is equal to Jesus Christ.
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I just want to be clear on that.
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That's what I meant by that.
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But he stood and we all bowed to him respectfully, every one of us.
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And he put up his hands indicating that we all made him be seated.
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And he looked directly into my eyes and he said, I want you to go back to earth.
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I want you to tell the Middle East, I am always with them.
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I have always been there.
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I have always prayed for them.
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As a matter of fact, I help pray for the world, not just the Middle East, the entire globe
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of earth as we know it.
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He told me wars will be coming to an end.
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He said the wars need to come to an end.
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They must come to an end.
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Those were his words to me.
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And he said, I must go now.
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And I'm looking at, oh, no, no, no, no.
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Before he said I must go now.
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I asked him a question.
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He stopped talking, waiting for my response.
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And I said, Prophet Muhammad, respectfully, I don't know anything about you.
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Why are you asking me and telling me this information?
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Why are you asking me to put it in the book?
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And he said, I have my ways.
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And I thought, wow.
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So not to get too off track here, but have you had an opportunity to do that?
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How in the world could you deliver a message to the Middle East?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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And I wrote my book because when he left the tent with all of the angels that came in,
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before he left, he directly looked in my eyes.
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He never stopped looking in my eyes.
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And he said, put the book out.
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Well, God already told me that.
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Jesus told me that.
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Archangel Michael told me that.
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Everybody sitting at the table told me that.
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They all kept saying, put the book out.
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OK, so now he leaves the tent.
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It was quiet.
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All of us were sitting there.
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It was just such a heavenly, impactful, in a positive way.
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And I think it was Marvin Gaye who broke the silence.
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And he said, Megan, he said, listen, you have to put the book out.
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You have to tell everybody our stories.
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It was not easy going through the civil rights.
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He said, I remember when Dr. King was assassinated.
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I remember what happened on the streets.
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And Elefant Steele spoke as well.
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Terry Catt was talking to me.
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Quick pause here.
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This podcast is a labor of love, produced by me and my son Will, who's a university
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student.
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The show is completely free for you.
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But today I'd like to ask a little favor.
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We want to keep growing, and you are the key.
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If you'd take just a couple of seconds right now to hit the follow or subscribe button,
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then hit the share button to send it to a friend.
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We would really appreciate it.
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Now, back to our guest.
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Telling me about the music that he was playing and the things that they were up against,
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you know, in the 60s and 70s and what they thought.
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And I'm just, I'm sitting listening.
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And Freddie Mercury piped in and he said, listen, you know, I transitioned in the height
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of my career.
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And I want you to tell every gay person out there.
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You know, male, female, it doesn't matter.
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He said, we're all welcome here in heaven.
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He said, we're all welcome here.
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He said, that wasn't, that was not easy to do.
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And then Billy Barty shared with me how he was made fun of.
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And when he was a kid, with his parents, people used to stop and laugh at him and say, oh,
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he should be in the circus.
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You know, so every one of these souls was sharing with law their souls, literally, in
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the, the impact that earth had on them in their lives.
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So they wanted me to come back and share that and talk to whoever will listen about what
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it was that their struggles were.
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You know, everybody has struggles.
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Yes, everybody has struggles.
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But what's interesting are the struggles that they went through.
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And basically it all comes down to judgment and people not being accepted.
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That's what it came down to.
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And that was the main message that everybody kept saying to me, acceptance is synonymous
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with love.
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And God said it to me as well.
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God got us every single one of them said acceptance is synonymous with love.
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Take that for what it is, but it's true.
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It's very true.
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So every one of these souls shared with me.
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I could ask you a hundred more questions at this point, but I don't want to be here all
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day.
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We have patient listeners already.
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I mean, things like, Hey, what, why do you need to eat and drink and things like that?
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And what was the music like at that concert and et cetera, but we're not done yet.
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So we better move on.
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Tell me what happened next.
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Okay.
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So after that tent, I remember another point where I was standing in a circle in the center
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of a circle and all of these archangels saints ascended masters were standing around me and
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then cherubs were floating or not floating, but fluttering as they do.
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And they don't talk by the way.
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I never heard a cherub talk.
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Fluttering as in wings.
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Yeah, their wings.
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And they were gold.
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They were all 33 and a third cherub gold.
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All of the angels.
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I was standing in the center and they would raise the right hand.
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Whoever spoke to me would raise the right hand and the white beam of light, comfort
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in our hand and hit my soul.
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And I started to cry because I didn't want to go back to earth.
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I did not want to come back here.
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Then at one point all of them had their hands up so that I could feel their love.
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That's what it was.
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They were sharing their love with me.
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When I felt that I stopped crying and then they had these messages and I remember one
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female, she had long, long blonde hair, beautiful, beautiful, porcelain white skin.
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And she looked at me and said something about coming back to earth and how they would all
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be there for me.
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I don't remember verbatim what she said.
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Then I remember moving along where I'm standing under this fink tree or no, it was all a tree.
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It was all a tree.
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Jesus and I were talking and Saint Jerein was sitting under the olive tree holding his
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knees in the shade.
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And Jesus looked at me and he says, well, Megan, yeah, it's that time.
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And I said, Jesus, I don't want to go back.
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I don't want to go back to earth.
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And he said, I'm not God.
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He goes, look, I follow the orders just like you do.
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I thought, oh, God, I gotta go.
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I gotta go back.
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All of a sudden threw up a picture, this 11 by 14 picture or 8 by 10 picture of my son
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and then husband.
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And both of them said telepathically, don't go.
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We need you.
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They said it simultaneously.
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And all of a sudden I looked at my son and I said, Jesus, I said, my son needs me.
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I have to go back.
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And he said, okay, you better go back.
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He gave him a hug.
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I said goodbye.
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And as I was walking down the dirt road, I had to go to this shack, this little tiny
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shack and take off my robe and put it in the laundry basket there.
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And it was this weaker laundry basket.
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And then I left and I was walking down the road to go back to my body and coming to my
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left in front of me and coming out to greet me in the road was Prophet Muhammad.
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And all of these angels, all of the angels, again hundreds of them, I thought, oh my gosh,
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it seems Prophet Muhammad.
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So I walked up to him because this was the plan that we meet before I go back to my body.
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I said, oh, Prophet Muhammad, I don't want to leave.
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And he said, well, you have to go back to Earth, man.
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And he was very kind.
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He was very sweet, so loving, so compassionate.
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I looked at him respectfully and I said, may I give you a hug?
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And he said, sure.
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And so I stood up on my toes because he was tall and I reached my arms around his neck
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to give him a hug.
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And he gave me a hug.
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As soon as I let go of my arms, he let go of his.
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And then I stood before him and he said, Megan, he said, you will never be alone.
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He said, my hand will always be at your back.
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And I said, I don't know, I said, please forgive me, but I was raised Catholic as you know
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and I don't know if it's okay to see this, but I love you.
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And he looked at me and said, I love you too.
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I mean, what more could I get?
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Another I love you before I left for Earth.
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But at this time it was from Prophet Muhammad.
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And that was such a powerful moment for me.
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And then I had to go back to my body.
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So I remember waking up in the hospital the moment that I was like back on Earth.
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And boy, I don't know who was in the room at that time in my hospital room, but I remember,
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I think there was a nurse there because I remember a woman standing there and I said,
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I just saw Jesus.
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I couldn't remember Prophet Muhammad right then.
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And I said, I just saw Jesus.
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And she goes, you saw Jesus?
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And I said, yeah, I did.
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I just saw him like a couple of minutes ago.
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It was funny.
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But anyway, it was a very powerful experience and I'm grateful for it.
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Wow.
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Was it ever?
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So you went through a healing process.
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We don't need to get into all the detail about physical healing, but how did this change
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your life?
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How do you process something like this and move forward?
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And how different were you after it?
490
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:37,840
You know, it takes a while to process because look, I've changed the way in which I feel
491
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,200
things now or feel about situations now as compared to before.
492
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:51,200
For instance, if something bad happened to me, oh, let's say, the only thing that I can
493
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,800
think of is the time that I was raped and I was 20 years old.
494
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,880
And I remember it was such, it was a horrible experience.
495
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,600
And now I look at it at that experience.
496
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040
I couldn't get out of there in my head.
497
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,080
I couldn't, I could not accept that.
498
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:14,240
And now I look at it and I go, wow, you know, that was actually a gift.
499
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:20,040
It was a gift and it was love, you know, who is the creator?
500
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,640
Love is the creator who was giving me an experience to know the bottom of what it's like to be
501
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,360
without love and to not feel loved and to go through all of these, all of these different
502
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:36,240
emotions, but then to have such an extreme where it's all you're sitting with is love
503
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:43,840
and acceptance and beautiful, intelligent, incredibly fun people.
504
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,600
And then coming back to earth and going, well, all right, this is what our life can be like,
505
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,120
but it's about choice.
506
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:58,400
How are we going to choose and how are we going to integrate people as just humans rather
507
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,760
than, oh, this person believes this and this person believes this, therefore they're this
508
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,560
way and they're better than whoever.
509
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,320
And that's not the case at all.
510
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,120
It's all encompassing.
511
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,680
Heaven is all inclusive.
512
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,400
It's not just this exclusive experience.
513
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,320
Every experience has a reason, every experience that we go through has a reason.
514
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,480
So I've changed in that regard, realizing that it's not bad.
515
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,480
It just is.
516
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,960
And you were told to write a book?
517
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,280
I was, yeah.
518
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Right?
519
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,520
And it's called A Catalyst My Five Days in Heaven.
520
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,520
Yes.
521
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,880
And do you feel like that represents well what happened to you?
522
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,440
It represents some of what happened to me.
523
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:50,560
Yes, I mean, absolutely, but there's so much more that I could put in there as a result
524
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,320
of that experience.
525
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,560
What I can't fit it all in one book.
526
00:29:54,560 --> 00:30:00,440
What I also had to remember in writing it was God had two messages for me that I had
527
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,280
to come back and make clear on earth.
528
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,920
And the two messages are acceptance is synonymous with love.
529
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,880
The other one was, he said to me, marry science with religion.
530
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,840
I thought, well, I'm not a scientist and I'm not religious.
531
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,520
How am I supposed to do that?
532
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,040
But those were his two messages.
533
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,720
So I did my best in my book to make that happen.
534
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,720
Okay.
535
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,680
If you don't mind a personal question, you do not have to answer if you don't want to.
536
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,800
Did this experience influence your your path to a divorce at all?
537
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,680
I think it did.
538
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:46,400
And the reason I can say that is everything in my marriage, I thought was great until
539
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:53,320
my husband saw me and something changed, something shifted.
540
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,680
And I know I did.
541
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,800
I know I was talking to heaven.
542
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,440
I was meditating every day.
543
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,640
I still do.
544
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,200
I say prayers and he didn't.
545
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:11,600
And so there came a point in my marriage where I was so, I felt ignored, you know, I felt
546
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:17,280
ignored because when he'd come home, I hadn't seen him for forever long because he's away
547
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,280
at work.
548
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:25,160
But then he didn't want to talk to me about what I was going through on the emotional
549
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,160
level.
550
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,160
He would listen to me.
551
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,480
But finally one day I remember we were sitting in the kitchen and he said, stop talking about
552
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,480
heaven.
553
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,480
I don't want to hear it anymore.
554
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,720
And I thought, whoa.
555
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,920
So it was about eight months later.
556
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,040
I think it was about eight months later I filed for divorce because I thought, you know, look,
557
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,240
I can live this type of a lifestyle with him.
558
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,280
I can have no, no issue for my son.
559
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,880
He would never have to experience divorce.
560
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,480
I didn't want to experience divorce.
561
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:01,560
Oh my gosh, you know, but look, there came a point in my meditation where, you know,
562
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,720
God basically told me, you have to file for divorce.
563
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,440
There is no, you can't change his mind.
564
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,960
We knew my husband, where he's at.
565
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,360
It's not for you to do.
566
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,880
She has to want to do that.
567
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,120
And you guys are both, you're a crossroads, Megan.
568
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:24,600
I mean, you can basically live partially you, be your partial self with him, or you can go
569
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,560
and be your complete self somewhere else.
570
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,560
You know?
571
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,640
So I chose to leave.
572
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,000
I chose stores.
573
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,480
Well, I appreciate you opening up about that.
574
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:40,000
I only ask because the divorce rate among people that have had experiences like this
575
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,720
is very high.
576
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,840
And so I'm trying to learn a little bit about maybe why.
577
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:50,720
And it sounds like with you two, you were just a very different person afterwards.
578
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,680
And maybe he wasn't married to the same person that he used to be.
579
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,680
True.
580
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,680
Yeah.
581
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,680
Because it was funny.
582
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,120
And I was outwardly calling myself the atheist, and I never talked about God.
583
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,360
I would just be like, ugh, you know, and when baptism, because my grandmother, when my son
584
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,600
was born, she says, well, where are you getting baptized?
585
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,600
My son.
586
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,760
And I said, I'm not.
587
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,920
Well, you can't do that.
588
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,960
Oh, well, you know, because it was, he needs to be protected.
589
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,160
And I'm like, oh, notting.
590
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,440
I said, come on, please, don't.
591
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,160
And then my husband would say, yeah, we don't, we don't need to go down that path.
592
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,520
We can look what the Catholic Church did for us.
593
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,720
We would joke, you know, together.
594
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,960
And I say, yeah, right.
595
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,040
You know, because that's how we both felt.
596
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,680
But then here I come back from heaven and I'm like, oh, I just remembered my meeting
597
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,960
with, with Archangel Michael or, oh, last night I had a visit from God.
598
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,040
And it did happen after my near death experience.
599
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,800
I remember this one night I got a visit from God.
600
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,040
And this happened multiple times.
601
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:59,600
I would tell him these things and, and he'd be like, here we go again, this God thing,
602
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,240
you know, this, whatever.
603
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,480
And I'll tell you, there, there was, this was really interesting.
604
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,120
This was so weird.
605
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:15,000
So I had a visit from God one night.
606
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:21,400
I, you know, I was asleep and then I get pulled up to the clouds and I'm sitting in the clouds
607
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,240
in my golden chair that I was sitting in, in temple and God was sitting in his chair.
608
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:32,080
We're sitting straight across from each other and the clouds are going over our feet and
609
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,040
we had a very long conversation and I don't remember the entire conversation, but I do
610
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,960
remember his mission for me at that moment.
611
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:48,720
He said, you will go back, you will write a letter to Ellie Weissel and you will tell
612
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:52,040
him the Pope is going to resign.
613
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,840
And I said, wait, come on.
614
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,840
What?
615
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,320
I said, why, why are you telling me this?
616
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,680
He said, you will do it.
617
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,040
And I said, okay, yeah, all right.
618
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,840
So I wake up the next morning and I'm like, yeah, that's not going to happen.
619
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,000
I'm not going to write a letter to Ellie Weissel.
620
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,120
I love Ellie Weissel and this poor man had gone through so much in his life with the
621
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:23,120
Holocaust. How could I come to him and why would he care if the Pope is going to resign
622
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,120
for the war?
623
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,600
So I went to bed that night.
624
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,200
Didn't think anything of it.
625
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,200
Woke up the next day.
626
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,200
Okay.
627
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,800
Getting ready, you know, my son, getting ready for school or wherever and I take him to school,
628
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,800
do the whole thing.
629
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,360
And then that night I go to bed.
630
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,080
I get a visit from God again in the middle of the night.
631
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Same seating arrangements.
632
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,280
And he looks at me and he says, why didn't she write the letter?
633
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,920
And I can't lie to him.
634
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,400
So I said, well, because I don't want to.
635
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,520
I said, I don't want to because the guy's probably going to think I'm crazy and who
636
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,400
cares if the Pope resigns and, you know, I'm saying all of this stuff.
637
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,560
And he said, that wasn't my question.
638
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,680
I mean, I'm glad that you shared that with me, but that isn't my purpose coming to you.
639
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,040
I'm telling you, you need to write that letter.
640
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,880
And I thought, yeah, I know how intense you are.
641
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,200
I felt that intensity again.
642
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,200
So I said, okay.
643
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,200
All right.
644
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,160
So the next day I wrote the letter and it took me like two days because I thought to
645
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,160
whistle.
646
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,160
Oh my God.
647
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,560
Maybe I wrote it all in one day, but then I went and I went online and I found out Elie
648
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Weissel's office.
649
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:37,920
He had an office in New York and I overnighted the letter or signature required to his business
650
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,680
and it was received.
651
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,600
It was signed for.
652
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:49,240
And so I then talked to my Jewish therapist who said to me over the phone, how are you
653
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:50,240
doing?
654
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:51,240
I said, fine.
655
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:52,800
Here's what I did.
656
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,120
And here's the letter that I wrote and I read it to her and she goes, well, you didn't mail
657
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,120
it, did you?
658
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,560
And I said, well, of course I did.
659
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,760
I said, because God ordered me to.
660
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,880
And she said, okay, well, you're not, you're not, you know, threatening anybody.
661
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,120
You're not harming anybody.
662
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,320
You're not harming yourself.
663
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,760
You're not, you know, and I said, no, absolutely not.
664
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,680
I said, I'm just giving the message and explaining like I come from this Catholic background and
665
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,160
I'm embarrassed to send the letter.
666
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,840
I mean, I was really honest with them.
667
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,120
And she said, okay, well, and then we went on the rest of our session.
668
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:28,840
So a few days later, I don't know, five, six days later, I get a phone call at about six
669
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,080
o'clock in the morning, phone's ringing and I'm not even awake yet.
670
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,600
I said, hello.
671
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:40,760
And she said, how the did you know the Pope was going to resign?
672
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,560
And I said, what are you talking about?
673
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,280
I don't know what you're talking about.
674
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:53,440
She said, turn on the TV right now and sure enough, CNN, there was Pope's resignation.
675
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,640
And she said, how did you know the Pope was going to resign?
676
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,720
And I said, well, do we have to go through the CNN?
677
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:03,880
I said, I told you, God came to me a second time and this is what happened.
678
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,240
I'm not crazy.
679
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:10,960
This stuff happens and people get visits from God or Jesus or whoever.
680
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:17,400
And so she said, listen, I'm starting to believe now in this heaven thing that you went through.
681
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,000
And I thought, well, that's great.
682
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,200
But you know, I don't know what it does, you know, that I was told the Pope was going to
683
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,880
resign and it actually happened.
684
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,000
But I just wanted to share that.
685
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,360
Oh, maybe that was the reason for the letter, for her to believe a little bit.
686
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,360
Maybe.
687
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,360
Yeah, who knows?
688
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,360
Maybe.
689
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,720
My then husband didn't believe.
690
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:41,360
He was like, he didn't find it very strange.
691
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,560
He thought, how did you know that?
692
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,040
How did you know that?
693
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,680
That's a big coincidence, girl, right?
694
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,120
Well, it's no coincidence because I wasn't following the news or the Catholic Church.
695
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:57,280
So you mentioned his intense look or his intense gaze at you.
696
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Can you describe to us what he looked like?
697
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,400
Yeah, the shroud of Turin.
698
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,760
So the reason that I know this is after my near death experience, one night I was watching
699
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,480
Nationals with the Graphic and they started talking about the shroud of Turin.
700
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,840
And I thought, what is the shroud of Turin?
701
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,040
And where it's located in Italy in this little Catholic Church, you know, in this glass case
702
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,720
and da, da, da.
703
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:23,680
And all of a sudden they show the face and they said, this is Jesus's face.
704
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,760
And I went, I'm laying there.
705
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,760
Nobody's with me.
706
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,680
I'm like, oh my God, that's God's face.
707
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,680
That's Jesus.
708
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,680
That's God.
709
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,680
People think that's Jesus.
710
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,920
No.
711
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,760
So it wasn't Jesus.
712
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,200
It's God's face.
713
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:46,240
And the reason that his eyes are closed is because he was showing his disappointment that
714
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:51,840
humanity had just killed the highest frequency of love.
715
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,960
He sent Earth to be the highest frequency of love on Earth and he was murdered.
716
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,240
Do you remember the color of his eyes?
717
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:01,240
God's eyes?
718
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:02,240
No, I don't.
719
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:03,840
I remember his skin.
720
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,080
He had this like tan skin.
721
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,720
Jesus was darker.
722
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,120
He had this very brown, brown skin.
723
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,400
I mean, he was, come on, he lived in Israel, you know?
724
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,080
So how could he not have darker skin?
725
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,080
And he was beautiful.
726
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,080
Oh my God.
727
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,240
Jesus, I'm sorry, Eva.
728
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:25,560
God, I won't say anything like that about because he's God.
729
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,800
We need to wrap up here.
730
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,360
You've given us a lot of things to think about, some really good advice and other things.
731
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,440
What last thoughts would you like to leave with everybody that's listening today?
732
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I would like to say, take responsibility for your actions in every day when you wake up.
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Treat people as though you would want to be treated yourself.
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Treat people as being an extension of love because they are.
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Treat people, everyone treat every human as love, not as different.
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Beautifully said.
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Thank you, Megan.
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Thank you, Eric.
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Thank you for having me on your show.
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I really appreciate it.
741
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And that was a lot of fun.
742
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And thanks for letting me share so openly.
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Thanks to you for listening.
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And remember to follow and share this podcast.
745
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Well then, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the next.
