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From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes.
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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.
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And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my
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physical body because I was somewhere else.
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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't
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anything else to be felt.
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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.
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I'm back home again.
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Incredibly safe and felt at home.
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Welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.
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We are going to have, I promise, so much fun today.
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We've got Megan Brown here with us from Arizona.
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Good morning, Megan.
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Good morning, Eric.
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Thank you for having me.
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You are so welcome.
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And I say we're going to have fun because in our pre-interview, I kept being surprised
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and shocked at all the things that came up.
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And I'm not quite sure how to tease this for people, but I'm going to just, maybe the
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best tease would be to throw out some names we're going to talk about.
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Perfect.
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Can you guess which ones I'm going to go after?
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Well, I'm going with Freddie Mercury number one, but I don't know.
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I don't know.
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That's where it starts.
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Freddie Mercury, Lincoln, Muhammad, Jesus, et cetera, et cetera.
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This is, anyway, we'll get to all this as we go.
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And people are wondering, what in the world does Freddie Mercury have to do with a near-death
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experience?
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So there's all the teasers you get for today.
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Hey, if you don't mind, before we start, tell us just a little bit about you.
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What kind of background do you have?
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Where do you live?
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Well, my background is I grew up in Southern California.
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And when I had my son with my now ex-husband, I didn't want to raise him in Southern California
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because it was so different than when I was a kid.
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So we moved to Missouri, of all places, for four and a half years.
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And that's where I had my near-death experience.
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And then my body couldn't handle that weather there any longer.
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So we moved to Sedona, Arizona.
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And it's been very nice.
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I haven't spent much time in Missouri.
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I hear it's really hot and really cold.
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Is that what the hard part was?
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Yeah, the humidity with the sheets, it was brutal.
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So before my near-death experience, I could handle it.
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The ice storms, OK, it was just very different than C.V. Valley, California, and San Clemente.
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So it was very different.
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But then after my body went through so much, and kidney failure, and other things, I couldn't
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handle the weather change.
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So you're in a place with perfect weather all year round now.
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Yeah.
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And it gets cold here, but it's not like there.
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So I'm so grateful for all the ice.
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Well good.
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Let's jump right into what led up to your near-death experience.
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So I know these were health problems.
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And you can tell us as much or as little as you're comfortable with.
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But tell us what was going on.
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So OK, I'd like to start by saying that I was in great shape.
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I worked out three times a week with a private trainer.
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I was doing household stuff.
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My son was four at the time.
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And I did everything that needed to be done, cook, laundry, blah, blah, blah.
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Stay at home, mom.
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It was really privileged to be a stay-at-home mom, because my then husband, he was on the
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road all the time working.
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How old were you?
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When this happened, I was 38.
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Yeah.
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So everything seemed to be, quote unquote, normal.
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And I came home.
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I made dinner, picked up my son from school.
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My girlfriend and her kids came over, and everything was normal.
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I mean, we sat down.
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We ate.
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I even drank one beer.
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I don't even drink beer, but I drank a beer for some reason.
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It was funny.
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Then it just, you know, I put my son to bed later, cleaned the kitchen, did my thing,
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and went to bed.
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And as the night went on, my stomach really started to hurt in a way that I'd never felt
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before.
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And I called my husband and told him what was happening.
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There was nothing he could do, you know, except be an ear for me.
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And then I tried to do yoga stretches.
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I tried to do different things to relax my body, but it didn't work.
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So I just kind of, well, I'll deal with it, you know, and went to sleep and woke up in
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excruciating pain.
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So that pain led to multiple other pains as the day went on, because I drove myself to
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the hospital, you know, doubled over at the steering wheel.
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And I called my girlfriend to come watch my son, because it was the middle of the night.
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I couldn't get help.
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And they thought, oh, you know, just give her whatever it was to take away the pain.
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I don't even know what it was.
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And then I had driven myself there, so I couldn't drive home.
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And I had to call somebody else to come and get me and take me home.
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And then that medicine wore off, but there was nothing to back it up.
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And so the pain was even worse.
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And it just, it was awful.
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So I finally made it into a hospital.
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So they didn't diagnose what was wrong?
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No, they couldn't.
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They just, they didn't take x-rays, they didn't do anything.
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Oh wow, just a lady in pain.
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Okay, keep going, because I know there was something behind it.
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I went to, I got transferred to another hospital, and it was 52 miles away, because there was
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no end of, what was it, I can't remember the doctor that I needed at the first hospital.
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Gastroenterologists, that's what it was.
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They didn't have one.
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So I got transferred to another hospital.
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Three or four days of severe, severe pain, I was just excruciating pain.
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Finally this hospitalist, I kept hitting the nurses button, and they would ignore me.
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And finally this hospitalist comes in, and he said, you know, what's going on?
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You know, he was very, just very, felt very cold.
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And I told him all the details of what was going on, my body and the pains that I was
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feeling.
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He finally just looked at me and said, I think you're a drug seeker.
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And all of a sudden, for the first time I heard, make a scene, make it big, or you won't
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make it out.
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I'm thinking, okay, the doctor didn't just say that to me.
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What's going on here?
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So my stepson and his wife were sitting there.
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They didn't say anything.
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And they didn't hear what I just heard.
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So I made a scene.
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I thought, well, I'm in a Catholic hospital.
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I know exactly what to say.
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And I did.
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Because you were raised Catholic, right?
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I was, yeah.
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But you knew how to rock the boat big time.
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Oh, yes.
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All right.
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What did you say?
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Well, I don't know if I can say it on your show, but we'll bleep it out if we need to.
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I called the names.
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I mean, I said, look, mother, I said, you're going to get me a damn help that I need.
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I said, I am demanding to get, I said, you're fired.
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You are so fired.
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I said, get out.
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Absolutely get out.
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I said, you have no idea who I related to.
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Oh, I was searching for things to say, but I, this guy's just looking at me.
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And I said, my husband played for the president.
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Now get the f*** out.
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You're fired.
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And so she's looking at me and he looks at my steps on it.
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His wife, like, is she telling the truth or is she just delusional, you know?
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And they looked at him and shook their head.
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Yes, it was true.
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I was telling the truth.
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So finally he left.
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And then this little nurse comes in and she says, I mean, I could have been her mother
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because she was fresh out of nursing school.
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And she says, I'm sorry, ma'am, we can't get you another doctor.
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And I said, look, you're going to get me another f***ing doctor.
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And I said, because I'm going to fire you.
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And my body was becoming paralyzed and I could feel it.
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I couldn't move my legs.
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I couldn't, I couldn't do anything.
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And the only things that I could move at this time were my hands and my head and the upper
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chest area just under the shoulders.
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And I was trying to express all of this.
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I was scared.
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I was so scared.
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Oh my gosh.
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Miraculously, I get another doctor who walked in and this woman scammed me and looked at
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me.
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And what the other doctor failed to tell me was that I had bloated 43 pounds of fluid
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and it turned gray.
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So she looked at me and the nurse that I threatened to have fired.
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And she said, oh my God, has anybody checked her creatinine level?
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And the answer was no.
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As the nurse was going through the pages, you know, looking through her notes.
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So I was in kidney failure.
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I was in full-blown kidney failure.
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I literally was dying because I wasn't on dialysis.
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I had so many, this had been going on for days now, you know?
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So it was really bad.
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Wow.
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That is really scary.
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Yeah.
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Okay, was there some point where this went beyond that and you had a death experience?
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Yes.
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So, okay, so fast forward now.
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I'm being wheeled into dialysis and I was so, it was like, I was in so much pain and
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they had just figured out, oh my God, she's in kidney failure.
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They have to get her up there.
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I don't even know if they gave me anything yet for pain, but I remember this nurse standing
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next to me and she looked down at me and said, we need to do a blood transfusion.
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Do I have your permission to do a blood transfusion?
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And all I could think of was, what kind of disease am I going to get from it?
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You know, is the blood clean?
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And she says, I mean, and she said it again a few times.
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So I heard something sound one say, say yes.
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And I was like, who said that?
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So I said yes.
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So they had to do blood transfusions on me and then they did the dialysis.
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But I remember jumping to getting into heaven.
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I remember I walked through clouds and I walked through clouds to what looked to be a park
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and you know, the grass, the trees, the sun, the birds.
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Before we jump into the detail there, what happened to your body that launched this?
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Did you shut down at some point?
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Yeah, actually 90% of my body had shut down.
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Okay.
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Were you conscious?
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In and out.
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And after I said that to the nurse on the gurney, I do not remember anything until another
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moment where heaven had me wake up.
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And another nurse was working on me in my hospital room because they had to keep doing
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it consistently.
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So they would do dialysis followed by plasma peresis.
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So this was like a six, seven hour, you know, and if the machine didn't break, it was like
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seven hours, you know, it takes a long time.
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I literally opened my eyes, grabbed this woman's wrist, and I said, you have to get me off
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this floor.
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I'm going to die here.
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That wasn't me.
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I didn't know, I didn't know where I was.
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And she looked at me and I had taken her by surprise, of course.
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And she said, well, that's too much paperwork for me.
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My husband is the head of the sixth floor and that's the sickest unit in this hospital.
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I'm going to have you moved.
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And I was just laid there and I thought, wait, she's going to help me?
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Oh, fantastic.
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So I was out of it again.
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And then I remember like getting my room and I remember seeing her husband, who was the
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head nurse up there.
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And then I went into my experience again.
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Okay.
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So, and I'm sorry I interrupted that.
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You were talking about being at a park.
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This was the first part of the experience then.
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Okay.
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Go on from there.
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Tell us what happened there, what you saw.
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Okay.
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So I, you know, I, I see trees.
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I all of a sudden see this Jesus standing over to the left in front of me.
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So like he's over to the left under a tree.
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And I, I looked at him when I go, oh my God, you really do exist.
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And he started laughing.
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And I couldn't believe my eyes.
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And so, cause this is a guy I thought was a fairy tale.
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So you know, he opened up his arms.
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He greeted me like, come on over, give me a hug.
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So I walked over to him and I gave him a hug and, and then he kind of, he turned to, he
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like pulled me to his side and we started walking.
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And he said, come on, we have a lot of work to do.
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And I said, yeah, no shit, you're dealing with me.
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I mean, that's exactly what I said.
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I just don't say that to everybody, but that's what I said.
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So we walked and I had to go meet my other guides in a golden capsule.
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I remember stepping in a golden capsule and my other guides are Archangel Michael, who
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else was there?
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Elmoria, Saint Germain and Mother Mary.
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So we stepped inside the capsule and I had to watch my life review.
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And it's like, look, I don't know how they work TVs there.
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All I can tell you is it's like watching a movie, a movie literally of yourself every
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second of your life.
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And you not only feel your emotions, but you feel the other people's emotions in anything
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was happening.
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And you, you were forever changed by this experience because how could you not be?
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Can you give us an example of one of the things that you saw in the life review?
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Yes, I remember and I called my grandfather.
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He lived a very long time.
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So I called my grandfather and I said, oh, grandpa, I said, I saw us on the boat, the
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little sailboat, the sunflower, when we were in Hawaii together because they owned a house
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in Honolulu on the water and we used to go out fishing.
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It was this little tiny sailboat that he had, but there was, it was just so much happiness
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doing that, you know, spending time with them and then being on the water.
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I loved it.
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That was one of the moments that I remember seeing and I called him and told him and I
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remember, let's see, what else do I remember?
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I don't remember a specific moment.
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I remember some things that were really rough to watch.
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Like, for instance, I was in a car accident.
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In 1978, this is my first near-death experience and it was, it was horrific.
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I mean, I broke both my legs last week and my whole face was like practically, you know,
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ripped off and my best friend and her mother both died.
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I was in a body cast.
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I was all these things.
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So I had to feel all of this again, if you can imagine, pain, the emotion that went into
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it, everybody's emotion that was going on around it.
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It was, it was horrific.
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Did you feel in any of those experiences that you were reviewing, did you feel guilt, shame,
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or was it more of just a, hey, we're just learning from this.
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We're feeling it, but we're learning and moving ahead.
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You know, I don't remember specifically what I felt, but I do know that I felt, I felt
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all of those things because in any moment in life, whatever it is that you're feeling,
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you're going to feel it again, whether that be guilt, whether that be shame, whether that
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be happiness, whether that be, you know, questioning something.
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I remember also, Archangel Michael, they would stop the video.
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I call it the video of my life or the film of my life.
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They would stop it because I remember one time I was throwing up, I was so upset by how it
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made me feel.
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I mean, you do have reaction to it, the life review.
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I remember throwing up and they stopped the video and they waited until I was done.
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Then I was asked by Archangel Michael, how are you feeling?
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At first processing that question, it's like, well, can't you see I'm falling apart in front
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of you?
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I mean, this is a horrible feeling, but they would, through different life situations that
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I'd experienced, they would stop it again, the video, and they would ask me, how do you
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feel about this?
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How do you feel about this?
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And what are you feeling right now?
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But finally at the very end, because they showed me future stuff, but I don't remember,
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they didn't allow me to remember any of the future stuff.
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I was asked, how do you feel about this?
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And my response was, this too shall pass.
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And they all looked at me and smiled.
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And I don't remember if it was Jesus, Archangel Michael, but they said, you've got it.
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You understand now.
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So it's like a little mini graduation right there in that moment.
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Sounds almost like a therapy session.
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Like, let's go through something and then let's stop and let's let you process it.
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You know, I am joked about that.
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Yes, that's what I think.
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It was, it was heaven's therapy.
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That's what I call it.
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Yeah, it's true.
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Can I ask you this too?
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How did you know that Jesus was Jesus and Michael was Michael?
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Were there introductions or do you just know?
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Jesus, I just knew.
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I mean, I looked at him and I thought, but it's weird that you asked that.
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Because, you know, I was talking to my friend last night and who'd asked me like, how do
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you know that, you know, these aren't all aliens and presenting themselves in a way
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that they come across as a certain character?
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You know, I was thinking about it last night after we got off the phone and I thought,
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well, that's an interesting question because technically heaven is like the bar scene in
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Star Wars, so that would make us all aliens because it does look like the bar scene in
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Star Wars.
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And I even told my dad last night and my dad said, well, I thought everybody was nice.
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I said, they are nice.
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I said, everybody's, you know, in a loving feeling, you're in a loving atmosphere.
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You can't feel anything but love.
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I mean, you can, but it's a very protected area.
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It's so serene.
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It's so incredibly magical.
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And as God said to me in heaven, he said, love is magic.
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Magic is love.
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So, what was your answer about the alien thing?
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Oh, so my answer about the alien thing, gosh, what did I say to him?
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I didn't even remember what I said to him.
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It was kind of like, well, okay, you know, I mean, and, and so I'm telling you, yeah,
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I mean, I can see why somebody would think that.
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But really, I had, I told, well, I did tell him, I said, I had no expectations of what
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any of these souls would look like in heaven.
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So how would they present themselves to me a certain way, unless, unless it was just
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like Catholic upbringing?
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I mean, I don't know, but I didn't get into all of these people that are now in heaven
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that I saw.
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I didn't, I didn't connect with Mother Mary.
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I didn't connect with Jesus, obviously.
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I mean, I was told to, you know, that's how I was raised.
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But I had so many questions.
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I remember as a kid, like, well, I can't, well, you're telling me that this is real,
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but that doesn't make it real, you know?
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So I always said in the back of my mind, you know, I have to see it to believe it.
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Well, I saw it.
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Now I believe it.
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I love that.
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Okay.
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You saw lots of other beings.
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Were they during this same experience or were you sort of in and out of consciousness?
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And this was a series of events.
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Oh, this was no during the same experience.
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Okay.
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Well, go ahead and keep going.
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Okay.
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So after my life review, then I had to go with Archangel Michael in his golden capsule.
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And I knelt down.
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I mean, he told me first, what was it?
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First, I think the cherubs came in first because I didn't, I wasn't wearing anything.
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And they had to dress me in this white, I call it a toga because it's all I can think
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of were togas and a stole that went over, that went over me.
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And on the bottom right on my hip was the emblem of earth with seven flames coming out of it,
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indicating that I was a visitor from earth.
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Then I had to kneel down before Archangel Michael and he said Psalm 91.
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And as he said, Psalm 91, he had his right sheen directed at my soul, which soul is right
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between your breastbone.
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This white flame came out of his hand.
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It was really amazing.
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I felt so loved.
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I felt so accepted.
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And I felt so bad that I had said all of these horrible things in my head.
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If there's a God, well, you know, give him and then it's real and this is all bullshit.
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I mean, I mean, I really did think all those things.
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And so when he was done with that, I was, I started to cry.
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And I had my head down and I was looking down.
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I put my hands up to my face and he's like, Megan, why are you crying?
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And I said, because I've been horrible.
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He mean to all of you.
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I've said horrible things about you.
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And I didn't believe in any of you.
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And I thought this was all shit.
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But I said it to him and, you know, and he said, Megan, I'm here to love you.
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I'm not here to judge you.
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I thought, oh my God, now that Catholic guilt really kicked into that moment.
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I gotta tell you.
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So I just felt completely changed in that moment, completely changed.
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So he said to me, come on, there's a lot of people waiting to meet you.
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And I thought, what?
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And I looked at my head, there are people waiting to see me, you know?
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And he said, yeah, let's go.
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So we stepped outside of his capsule.
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Then there was Jesus, Mother Mary, El Moria and Saint Jireen and all of us walked.
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And we had to go over, we had to go over what was like a little bridge.
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Anyway, then there was a huge white temple.
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It was beautiful with two small decks that came out.
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The door was huge to get in.
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And then there was a deck on either side of the door up high.
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And there were golden cherubs playing the trumpet and announcing this was to announce
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that I was arriving with what I was arriving with.
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And I don't remember who opened the door.
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We walked in and as soon as I walked in, all I could feel was it was like getting shit
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with a wave of love that never stopped.
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It continued to hit you.
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It continued to fill your entire being.
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All I was breathing was love.
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All I could feel was love and excitement from everyone sitting there.
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And it was funny because so Jesus comes up, pulls out this chair.
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It's like I floated to my chair.
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I don't even remember walking, you know, but I was walking.
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I just don't remember.
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I was nervous.
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I was not feeling like, oh, I'm worthy enough to be here because I didn't believe in any
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of these people.
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You know, I mean, here I am going in as an atheist thinking, oh my God, they do exist.
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This is love.
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I don't know what to do.
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I wear a wave and begin.
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So Jesus pulled out my chair and he's sitting to my left.
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Archangel Michael's sitting to my right.
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To Jesus's left is this old man sitting at the table and he starts talking and everybody's
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listening.
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And I thought, who is this guy?
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You know, he's talking.
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And then he said, within the first few minutes of me sitting there, he said, and Megan will
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be going back to earth.
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He announced to everybody this and in my mind, in my mind only, I did not say this out loud.
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I thought, oh, he stopped talking.
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He looked directly at me and he said, is right, Megan.
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And I thought to myself, oh my God, you are God.
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I remember in Catholic school, Catholicism, God can hear all your thoughts.
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God can hear.
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And then I was like, oh, God, I'm so sorry.
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Please forgive me.
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God, and he watched me feel, you know, foamable through my mini conversation there.
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But I mentioned sincerely that I was sorry.
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I was very apologetic.
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And he said, I forgive you.
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He said, it's a man made word.
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I don't get upset with that.
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And she said, but be careful what you think of and what you wish for.
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I hear all of those.
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And then I sat there and everybody at the table was watching me.
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So now I realize, OK, who's conducting this interview and this whole, you know, conference
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here is God himself.
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I'm looking around.
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Everybody's staring at me.
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And then I'm recognizing some souls that I'd seen your pictures on earth.
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I was just going to ask, because you're saying everyone, give me an idea.
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Do you have an idea of how many people beings were there?
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Yeah, there were 77 of us in total.
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Oh, you know exactly.
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I know exactly.
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But I don't remember every single person.
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I remember seeing Kali.
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I remember Parmenon, Siyog Nanda.
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I remember Mahatma Gandhi.
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I remember Kwan Yen.
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I remember Prophet Muhammad.
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I remember Jesus, Archangel Michael, Archangel Raphael.
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There were 27 archangels.
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There was Goddess sitting bull, White Eagle.
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I remember Chan saying, I don't know if I said it already, but I remember Shiva, Ganesh
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was there.
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I remember all of these souls sitting there because I recognized some of them.
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Some of them.
484
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,400
I did not recognize, but I learned about them.
485
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,320
You know, like who knew that there were 27 archangels?
486
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,320
There really aren't.
487
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,320
There's 1000.
488
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:51,400
But in the upbringing that I came up from, I think there were, I mean, I just remember
489
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,840
Archangel Michael and Archangel Raphael and Archangel Gabriel.
490
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,960
I don't remember the other ones, but I think there were only like six or seven in the Catholic
491
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,760
Church that they recognized.
492
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:08,040
So okay, awkward moment here, right?
493
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:14,600
After what you said to God and you were forgiven, you mentioned earlier about this wave of love.
494
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,680
Are you still feeling that?
495
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,680
On earth now.
496
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,640
No, I mean in this meeting that you're at around the table.
497
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:28,280
Are you still feeling nothing but love or are you feeling criticism and judgment?
498
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,280
Absolutely zero criticism, zero judgment.
499
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,600
I only felt luck the entire time.
500
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,640
Okay.
501
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,240
He tells you, Megan's going to be going back.
502
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,640
What happened next?
503
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,680
Then he went on to talk and inform people of what was happening.
504
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:54,920
And I don't remember verbatim what he said, but it was very important and everybody had
505
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,120
to pay attention and listen.
506
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:03,120
And then at one point, oh my gosh, I just remember this.
507
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,560
He, okay, so God, I forgot about this.
508
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:14,320
Megan pointed up to the ceiling and all of a sudden the ceiling of, it was a dome in
509
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:20,360
temple, okay, and temple by temple, I mean like Jewish temple, okay.
510
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,040
So there was a dome that the top opened.
511
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:32,040
He opened it up with his hand and then he said, do you see all of the stars out there?
512
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,280
And he went on talking about the galaxy.
513
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,600
I don't remember what else he said in that, but I remember looking up at the stars and
514
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,360
him talking to me about the stars and how important they were and how important the
515
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,480
galaxy was and how everybody was working together.
516
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,040
But I don't remember any more than that.
517
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,120
I can't believe I just remembered that.
518
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,120
It's okay.
519
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,720
These memories often come back a piece at a time.
520
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,880
So I'm happy for you that you remember that.
521
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,120
That sounds amazing.
522
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,120
Yeah.
523
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,320
It was really cool.
524
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:11,560
But then I also remember, so after, I think it was after he opened up the ceiling or roof
525
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,560
or whatever of the dome, I had to get up.
526
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,720
I was instructed to get up and walk around the table.
527
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:25,840
And every time I walked, I had to go to one soul at a time.
528
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,120
Each one of them had messages for me.
529
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,360
And no, I do not remember every message.
530
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:38,440
But I remember when I met Goddess, she sits directly across from God at the table.
531
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,680
I didn't know about a Goddess.
532
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,760
I wasn't talking about Goddess.
533
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,240
You hear about it from all this woo-woo stuff, right?
534
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,840
Here I am talking about that, working and living in Sedona.
535
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,520
But I mean, seriously, I think it's women.
536
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,920
I think it's funny because, okay, this is how I used to think.
537
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,960
I should say I used to think it was women who were feeling unrecognized.
538
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,560
How come God is a male?
539
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,640
How do we not know it's a Goddess?
540
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,840
How is it that we know God is male and not a female?
541
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,920
Well, the truth is that there's God and there's Goddess.
542
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,400
So I met them both.
543
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,960
But when I got to Goddess, I don't remember if this was the first time that I went around
544
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,000
the table or I have no idea.
545
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,040
But I remember standing there in front of her and she was wearing this crown, a very delicate
546
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:30,940
gold crown that had huge, 13 huge chunks of amethyst in it.
547
00:31:30,940 --> 00:31:36,520
And it came up to a point at the top of the crown and went around her head.
548
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,960
Oh my gosh.
549
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,160
She was absolutely beautiful.
550
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,520
She was absolutely beautiful.
551
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,800
And I thought, who am I standing before?
552
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,840
Goddess, you know?
553
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,360
But she looked at me and she said, Megan, it's okay to be yourself.
554
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,440
It's okay to be yourself.
555
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,680
I'd never heard that before, not even on earth.
556
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,920
I didn't hear that before.
557
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,680
I never heard it was okay to be myself.
558
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,320
So it was obviously a message that I needed.
559
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,320
I'm revered grateful for that.
560
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Okay.
561
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,320
I have a question.
562
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,840
Tell me if you have any thoughts on this based on that experience.
563
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:26,520
If God, who was sitting next to Jesus, if Jesus is the Son of God, is there a relationship
564
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,960
with Him and what you're calling Goddess?
565
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,520
A relationship.
566
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:38,920
In other words, is she the mother of Jesus or just God being the father of Jesus?
567
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,320
Is there a relationship between God and Goddess?
568
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,520
Well, yes.
569
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:54,400
However, Jesus is not who I was taught as being, quote unquote, the Son of God.
570
00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:02,000
It's interesting because Jesus, okay, now in all fairness, I should say, Jesus is the
571
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,800
Son of God, but so are you.
572
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,880
So are my brothers.
573
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,960
So is every male on this planet.
574
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,120
Every female on this planet is the daughter of God.
575
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:25,880
And I say this with absolute sincerity and respect to everybody that, look, it's not
576
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,000
just one.
577
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:37,520
Prophet Muhammad came here as a Son of God, as a messenger, as a prophet, just like Jesus.
578
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:43,040
So why is he not being revered by everybody?
579
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,000
He should be, just as Jesus should be.
580
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,600
So this is my opinion, of course, after what I've experienced, and I understand that.
581
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:58,520
But this is one of the reasons that I believe I've been sent back here is to start talking
582
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:05,160
about my experience there and my feelings of what it really meant to see these souls
583
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,000
in front of me, none of which I believed it.
584
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,160
And I didn't know anything about Prophet Muhammad.
585
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,520
I knew nothing, absolutely nothing.
586
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:21,000
If you don't mind, I want to jump back into this experience you had with Goddess.
587
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:28,920
If we are sons and daughters of God, what does that relationship make us with her?
588
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,680
Are we sons and daughters of her also?
589
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,160
I don't know how to answer that.
590
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,160
Honestly, I don't.
591
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,400
I mean, I can just speculate with you.
592
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,400
Sure.
593
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,720
That's what much of what we're doing here.
594
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:47,120
Okay, my other question about her, because this doesn't come up very often.
595
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,680
So I've got questions if you know, and if you don't, that's fine.
596
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,000
Did you get a feeling for what her role is?
597
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,120
Oh, interesting.
598
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,440
I did get a feeling.
599
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,960
I definitely got who was in charge.
600
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,280
It was the male.
601
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,280
It was God.
602
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,520
He was in charge.
603
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:16,720
However, God was more intense in a, okay, but he was also very soft and gentle and approachable.
604
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:20,920
These are all the things that I felt with him, but I was very nervous, okay?
605
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:29,560
Because here I am standing before him, sitting before him, and having conversations with
606
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,560
him.
607
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:36,240
I had obviously disrespected him and God saying, God damn it, Jesus Christ.
608
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:42,760
All of these things, as a human, before I get there, but Goddess, I was not intimidated
609
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,760
by.
610
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,760
I didn't feel that like, oh, you're Goddess.
611
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,880
I didn't feel that.
612
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:58,120
I felt a motherly, I did feel motherly role with her, where she was very embracing with
613
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:04,640
her energy and very embracing with her words and the way in which she spoke to me.
614
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:11,360
Felt very soft and gentle, felt very loving, understanding.
615
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,840
It was beautiful.
616
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,480
You remember what message she had for you?
617
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,640
I just remember that first one very clearly.
618
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,200
Just that it's okay to be yourself.
619
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,960
Yeah, be yourself.
620
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,960
Okay.
621
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,960
All right, we teased earlier Freddie Mercury and some other names.
622
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,960
How did those come up?
623
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,960
Are these other people that you met?
624
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960
Yes, I did.
625
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,880
Were they in this meeting or did you meet them somewhere else?
626
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,040
Oh, well, Freddie Mercury wasn't there, but Prophet Muhammad was there.
627
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,680
But yeah, we can fast forward into heaven.
628
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,320
Well I don't want to go too fast.
629
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,520
Is there more to tell about this experience in this meeting?
630
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:02,920
Okay, so Goddess was sitting at the opposite end of the table from God and then immediately
631
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,160
to her right was Sitting Bull and immediately to his right was White Eagle.
632
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,960
Now, I don't remember what Sitting Bull said to me unless I wrote it down somewhere years
633
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:18,720
ago in my notes and I've kind of lost those in my divorce, but some of them I still have.
634
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:24,840
I don't remember what he said, but I remember looking at White Eagle and White Eagle, my
635
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:32,000
grandmother, my Catholic grandmother, when I was 14 or 15 had given me this little book
636
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,080
called The Quiet Mind and it was written by White Eagle.
637
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:42,440
The reason that she gave it to me was because my mother decided when I was 11 or 12 years
638
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,200
old to start following Charan Singh, who was from India.
639
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:52,000
He was Hindu and she would go to these things called Sot songs.
640
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,280
And you know, I went to some.
641
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,080
It was very different than the Catholic Church.
642
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,600
I mean, it was night and day different.
643
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:04,520
Here I am thinking, I know of your name because of my grandmother.
644
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:10,880
She looked at me and he said, Megan, he said, when you come across a white feather, I want
645
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,120
you to ask yourself, are you doing or are you being?
646
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,560
And as I'm standing there looking at him, I got really nervous.
647
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,320
I got anxious because I thought, oh my gosh, he wants an answer.
648
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,280
And this is what was going through my mind and my feelings.
649
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,280
And I thought, she wants an answer.
650
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,360
I hope I can give her an answer.
651
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,480
And he stops me and he said, you don't have to answer me.
652
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,960
I just want you to think of it.
653
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:43,080
I have never forgotten him saying that to me since the moment he said it to me.
654
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,080
So it's beautiful.
655
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,480
Absolutely beautiful, such a great message.
656
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:55,840
Then I remember this one time around the table where I was standing next to God and everybody
657
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,840
would see it.
658
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:03,560
When I'd go up to them, they'd all give me time to talk and answer their question or
659
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,680
listen to their question to me.
660
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,000
It was beautiful.
661
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,680
But I looked at God and I'm standing next to him.
662
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:18,080
He said, Megan, he said, I want you to think of yourself as the driver of your car.
663
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,680
He said, you're driving a car and I'm your passenger.
664
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,200
He said, you're going to come to a fork in the road.
665
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,560
Which way are you going to go?
666
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,080
To the left or to the right?
667
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,840
And I just stood there and looking at her.
668
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,000
And he said, it doesn't matter which way you go.
669
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,520
He said, I'm always going to be the passenger in your car.
670
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:46,560
I thought, wow, wow, okay, wow.
671
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,960
Because that was a fork in the road.
672
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,920
I mean, being in head of this fork of road, right?
673
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,040
Clearly you're going to make a beeline to that path.
674
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,160
I did anyway.
675
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,360
And anybody who I've ever met, and I've met quite a few people who've had near death
676
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,000
experiences, it changes you drastically.
677
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,840
And after she said that to me, I remember looking at him absolutely respectfully.
678
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,280
And I said, can I touch your face?
679
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,600
And he said, yes.
680
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,760
And I thought, oh, wow.
681
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:27,360
So I reached out my right hand and I gently touched the left side of his cheek.
682
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,200
I just wanted to touch his face, like with the back of my fingers, just gently laid my
683
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,920
fingers on his cheek.
684
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,240
It was so powerful to have done something like that.
685
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:43,640
I was so grateful, and after I removed my hand, I looked at him and I smiled.
686
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,120
And I said, now I can tell everybody that I've touched the face of God.
687
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:53,920
And he smiled at me, you know, as if, great, and I hope you do.
688
00:40:53,920 --> 00:41:00,880
It was that invitation to just share what I wanted to about God with everybody and everybody
689
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,680
else who is at his table.
690
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,440
So that was really neat.
691
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,480
And remember, you know, after I got out of the hospital, and I'll get back to that in
692
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:15,640
a second, but there's this song by Al Jarreau that I grew up listening to called Lornan.
693
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:21,760
And if you listen to that song, there's a point where he says, and I touched the face
694
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,520
of God.
695
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,640
I believe that's the exact line, maybe not.
696
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,400
But anyway, it would bring tears to my eyes.
697
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,800
After my near-death experience, I would all of a sudden hear that song.
698
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,320
And then I'd start playing it for myself.
699
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,480
Because I thought, oh, no, I need to hear that again.
700
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,040
That's such a beautiful line.
701
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,600
It was so true.
702
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:45,600
So back into heaven, into temple, I remember there was another point where I was standing
703
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,480
in front of this huge wooden door.
704
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:56,800
And I described it to my friend yesterday as being like, you know, a castle door, in
705
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,400
a sense where it was so huge, like 10, 12 feet tall, you know, but thick, thick wood
706
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:08,200
with big, you know, bolts in it or whatever, in a huge handle.
707
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:14,200
And that wooden door indicated to me somehow I knew.
708
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:19,880
Because as I stood before it, I said to God and everybody else, I said, you mean to tell
709
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,680
me, as I looked at the door, I said, you mean to tell me, if I walk through that door, I
710
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,000
can go into heaven and I don't have to go back to earth.
711
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:35,280
And everybody, it was just, yes, everybody.
712
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,320
It was unanimous, simultaneously, yes.
713
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,600
And then I touched the door.
714
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,120
I remember I touched the door and I looked back at everybody and I said, oh, well, now
715
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,480
my Catholic guilt's kicking in.
716
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,320
I said, there's no way I can go through that door.
717
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,280
After everything that you've all shared with me, I said, it would just be a waste here.
718
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,720
You know, I started jolting with the male, started laughing.
719
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:57,920
You know, I'm not funny, but in heaven, I was hilarious for a minute, you know?
720
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:07,360
So I didn't go through the door, but then I don't remember at what point they brought
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me into heaven as a visitor.
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So I visited heaven and I remember a few things that happened while I was in there.
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What's beyond the doorway into heaven?
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That's where we'll pick up Megan's journey in part two of our discussion available later
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this week.
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Until then, I wish you everything that you're looking for in this life and the next.
