#321 - Paul Dies In the Operating Room At Age 14

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,240 I had intense fear and panic because we were obviously crashing. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,980 Out of my heart came the thought, oh God help, I'm going to die. 3 00:00:11,980 --> 00:00:16,360 From the time that they pronounced me dead was a good 45 minutes. 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,320 It's determined that I was not breathing for 20 minutes. 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,280 They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped. 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,940 And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my 7 00:00:28,940 --> 00:00:31,720 physical body because I was somewhere else. 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:38,720 About 20 past four in the afternoon, by half past seven I was dead, clinically dead, four minutes. 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,640 And they were crying because I was dead and I was trying to tell them, no I'm not dead, 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,560 I'm just fine, I'm okay. 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,480 I was greeted by people I had known in the past. 12 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:54,720 I started to feel like I was surrounded by all this warm, loving, beautiful, soothing, 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,200 loving energy. 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,600 I'm back with God again. 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:03,640 I just felt this almighty release like, wow, I'm back, I'm back home again. 16 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,160 Incredibly safe and felt at home. 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,040 I'd come back home, it was a very strong feeling, I've come back home. 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:15,560 The only thing that I could feel, if you can imagine, absolute love and peace. 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,240 There wasn't anything else to be felt. 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,240 And light is literally emitting from him. 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,000 And I could feel that that tremendous amount of love was coming through him as well. 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:33,400 They were brighter than everybody else and I just knew who they were. 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,240 I'd like to welcome everybody to Round Trip Desk. 24 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,520 Hey, it's good to see you. 25 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,280 We have a guest clear across the pond again today. 26 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,780 This is getting to be a regular thing to be over in the UK and I want to try to pronounce 27 00:01:47,780 --> 00:01:50,320 it right, okay? 28 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,560 So we have Paul Northridge and he is in Derbyshire. 29 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,280 Correct, that's correct. 30 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,600 Yes, okay. 31 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,160 I'm glad to hear that. 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:06,680 First thing, my first question of the day is, do you have a t-shirt that says, unite? 33 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,480 What's the bottom say? 34 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,480 Unite planet. 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,480 Unite, don't fight. 36 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,520 What does that mean? 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:20,960 As it says on the tin, yeah, just to unite everyone together and to, yeah, just to be 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:29,760 friendly with each other and basically to throw away labels and yeah, just be together. 39 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,000 This is John Lennon's song that that reminds me of. 40 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,040 Would you sing it for us? 41 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,960 I don't sing, first of all. 42 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,600 And secondly, I'm not a big fan of the Beatles, so that's another thing. 43 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,640 No, okay. 44 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:44,880 We now have nothing in common. 45 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,920 Hey, Paul. 46 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:50,560 I appreciate you jumping on with us today. 47 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,280 Tell us a little bit about yourself. 48 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:58,640 Okay, so just to dive into my history before the near-death experience. 49 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:05,880 So I was born with spina bifida and so I had a birth defect on my spine. 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,800 It basically was a hole in the back. 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,000 It was part of a large hole for a baby. 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,120 And so basically I was on a death door quite early on. 53 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:23,560 I had a lot of blood going out, so that had to be sonaled very, very quickly. 54 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:31,880 And then once the hole was sonaled, then another thing started to happen is called hydrocephalus. 55 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,760 And that means it's a fluid on the brain. 56 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:41,120 So that was basically my brain was getting quite, well, unfortunately big, but not more 57 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,960 IQ level, unfortunately, but it's getting bigger because of the fluid. 58 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:52,480 And so they thought, okay, well, let's now do a shunt operation. 59 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:58,360 So the shunt operation in 1972 was quite a dangerous procedure. 60 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:05,120 So basically meant like a fixator had to go around the head and then the drain of the 61 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,080 fluid would happen from this device. 62 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:14,660 So my parents being, well, my mum being Catholic, she was really concerned about the operation. 63 00:04:14,660 --> 00:04:17,040 It was risky for a baby. 64 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,500 So they said, okay, well, let's have it baptized. 65 00:04:20,500 --> 00:04:25,400 So the day before the operation, I was baptized. 66 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:31,160 My parents on that day, when they came back from the ceremony, they said, okay, well, 67 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,280 I hope this, maybe this ceremony might help in some way. 68 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:39,840 Because it felt something happened that day. 69 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:44,160 And so they said, okay, let's see what happens anyway. 70 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:50,280 And so long story short, in that one, the morning of my operation, my parents got a 71 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:54,080 phone call and said, Mr. and Mrs. Northridge, yes. 72 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,800 Well, fortunately, we've got some good news for you. 73 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:03,720 Paul's brain swelling issue, had to go for this, is no longer the case. 74 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,720 It's actually now reducing. 75 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:11,520 I don't know if it was some kind of miracle or it's just how it was. 76 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,960 I mean, I just see it how it was really, for self. 77 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:21,480 But anyway, so long story short, I came close to death a couple of times in early stages. 78 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:27,520 And then, yeah, I can then now go into the time when I was 14, if you like, Eric. 79 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,920 Well, tell me how has that affected your health throughout your life, the spina bifida? 80 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,400 Spina bifida, okay. 81 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,400 Okay. 82 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,120 So my main issue is about paralysis. 83 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,040 The right leg is 90% paralyzed. 84 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,560 I can't feel most of my right leg at all. 85 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,400 But being a kid, I was still quite a strong, serene lad. 86 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,240 My parents, especially my dad, was a bit of a sighted major. 87 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,600 He wasn't a sighted major in behavior or anything like that, but he was like a sighted major 88 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,600 in nature. 89 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,560 He was the person that would give me a bit of a kick and come on, Paul, you can, you 90 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,120 can, if you will. 91 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,440 So I had operations regularly. 92 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,520 So I must have walked. 93 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,400 So I started to walk maybe around about a little bit older than some children, maybe 94 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,120 around about three, four. 95 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,040 I started to walk. 96 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,040 So a little bit later than most children. 97 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,680 And then I went to normal school. 98 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:31,120 And that was difficult because, unfortunately, I got bullied a lot because I was any child 99 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,040 that had a disability. 100 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,680 So that was quite significant with my near-death experience. 101 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,520 I'll tell you a little bit more later about that. 102 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:47,600 In regards to pain levels and tiredness, spine bifida is very, very tiring in nature and 103 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,520 it's also quite painful. 104 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,440 But I deal with it. 105 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,320 And I think most people, if they have a day of going into my body and lifting my body 106 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:01,640 for a day or for a day, yeah, let's go back to our body again, shall we? 107 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,160 It's not the best body to have. 108 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,720 Well, I'll let our listeners know you look healthy and strong. 109 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,040 Yeah, yeah. 110 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:15,800 I mean, same, you know, I mean, I'm also quite, I do believe in, we manifest things ourselves 111 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:16,800 as well. 112 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,480 And I think I manifest myself as quite a strong person. 113 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,120 And I am, I am quite strong. 114 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,520 My dad gave me a very strong character. 115 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,760 So I'm very determined. 116 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,240 I still work. 117 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,960 I'm a full-time worker. 118 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,160 I can sit on the bottom. 119 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,240 I can talk to people. 120 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:37,720 So I don't, I can't be a waiter in a hotel or I can't be, you know, something that involves 121 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,720 my legs. 122 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,720 So I can sit down. 123 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,460 I can talk to people and I help people in recruitment. 124 00:07:44,460 --> 00:07:49,620 So I get young people to have jobs. 125 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:52,680 And I love my job because it is changing people's lives. 126 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,440 And so that's amazing, really. 127 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,920 Yeah, that's awesome. 128 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:57,920 Okay, good. 129 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:04,640 Well, let's go back to when you were 14 years old, what led up to the surgery and what happened 130 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,880 at that time? 131 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:06,880 Okay. 132 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:13,120 So the operation I was due to have was called a brunner operation. 133 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,920 The brunner operation is a leg-rentening operation. 134 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:25,080 The right leg, because of the paralysis, it was very, very slow in growth. 135 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,720 The right leg would not grow as fast as the left leg. 136 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:35,160 The left leg has got, I'll say about 80% feeling okay, but 10% feeling a bit paralyzed. 137 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,080 So I could still drive with my left leg. 138 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,520 So that's the stronger leg. 139 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:49,120 The right leg was short by about, I'll say about, do you know centimeters in America? 140 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,120 Centimeters, your? 141 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,040 Yeah, it's about two and a half to an inch, something like that. 142 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,040 Inches, inches. 143 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,040 Okay. 144 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,040 If we do inches. 145 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,720 So I'll say around about four to five inches, differences. 146 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,720 Okay. 147 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,960 That's a big, yeah, that's a big, big difference. 148 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:06,960 Yeah. 149 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,120 So originally I was having a built up shoe. 150 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,760 So the shoe was really heavy for me. 151 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,580 And I was using catapults as well. 152 00:09:15,580 --> 00:09:18,720 So it was quite hard to move and walk. 153 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:27,640 So my surgeon, he was a good guy called Mr. Newton. 154 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,040 He didn't like being a doctor or anything like that. 155 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,080 He always wanted to be called Mr. Newton. 156 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,040 You have that kind of ego. 157 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,680 He didn't have that kind of ego to say I'm better. 158 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:40,480 And he was just a nice guy. 159 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:46,760 So he decided, okay, this operation will lengthen my leg. 160 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,400 And they did go ahead of myself a little bit. 161 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:56,520 But in the short period of time, in six weeks period, my dad had to like turn a key on this 162 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:04,000 device and my leg stretched every day more and more because what they did was they, my 163 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:10,400 thigh bone had two pins, another break, then another two pins above the break. 164 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:16,720 And then so this device then basically opened this break, opened and opened and opened. 165 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,440 So eventually my leg grew and I'm about two inches in the short period. 166 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:26,720 That sounds like some kind of medieval torture chamber. 167 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:27,720 It wasn't painful. 168 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:28,720 Really? 169 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:29,720 Oh, that's great. 170 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:36,960 Well, compared to maybe some people, it's painful, but I've also got a very good threshold 171 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:37,960 of pain. 172 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:43,960 I mean, I don't really bother with it too much, but yeah, it basically grew quite a 173 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,640 lot in that short period. 174 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:52,240 And it was painful on cleaning the wounds, but a lot of them had to clean the pins with 175 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,320 iodine regularly. 176 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,880 So that was the painful part. 177 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,960 But anyway, so going back to the actual operation. 178 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:07,600 So I was 14 and I was quite old in nature by 14. 179 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,320 I've had a lot of operations. 180 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,760 I'm very old, already quite mature at 14. 181 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:19,760 I'm more like a 20 something year old person in my head because I've had a lot going off. 182 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,120 So I'm in the theatre. 183 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,440 Before that they gave me a pre-med. 184 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,880 The pre-med made me feel rather drunk. 185 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,560 It just makes you relaxed. 186 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:38,880 That's the whole idea of the pre-med, just to make you feel relaxed. 187 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,600 Then they gave me a muscle relaxant. 188 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:49,320 That was then a very, very bad reaction to me because I was then going to have an anesthetic 189 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,320 after that. 190 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,640 So I was getting ready for that. 191 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:58,280 Anyway, so they gave me this muscle relaxant and not too long after that I felt like a 192 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,280 whole whoosh. 193 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,520 I can't describe how excited I was. 194 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:09,640 It just felt like a whole flush came up and I could feel really painful hands. 195 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,560 My hands were pulsating and I thought, okay, what's that? 196 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:20,840 So I looked at my hands straight away and they were twice as big and they were swollen. 197 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,200 So I was thinking, oh God, this is not good. 198 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:30,200 So I'm already panicking at this moment thinking I've got a reaction going on. 199 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,440 I'm shouting to Mr. Newton. 200 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,480 Mr. Newton is ready. 201 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,320 He's getting himself ready for the procedure. 202 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,080 So I said, Mr. Newton, please look at me. 203 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:48,160 And as he's then turning around to look at me, I can see his panic in his eyes. 204 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,480 And then I'm out. 205 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,240 It feels like at that moment I'm literally unplugged. 206 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,480 It feels like I'm seeing black. 207 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,480 But at this moment I don't have anything in my eyes. 208 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,240 I'm not a person anymore. 209 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,000 I'm actually a soul. 210 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,600 So I'm seeing black in my vision of what I can see. 211 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:18,000 And as I'm seeing black and aware of black, then I'm coming out of my body at an angle, 212 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:24,240 which is not directly over my body, but I'm at an angle so I can see my body. 213 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,480 I can also see stuff around my body. 214 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,560 So yeah, I'm not panicking at that moment. 215 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:32,560 I'm not concerned. 216 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:38,360 It was more of my natural self was thinking, OK, where am I? 217 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,400 Oh, that was my body. 218 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:46,120 Like as if I was looking at a vehicle that's just been, I've just cracked my vehicle and 219 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,600 I'm not really concerned about it anymore. 220 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,200 He wasn't like, oh gosh, I want to get back to my body again. 221 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,200 He wasn't any of that nature at all. 222 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:59,360 So you felt calm, you felt relaxed, just sort of interesting. 223 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:00,360 What's going on? 224 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,360 Yeah, exactly. 225 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,840 That kind of nature. 226 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,320 Curious, I would say. 227 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,320 Very, very curious. 228 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,920 That was my feelings. 229 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:14,720 And the thing when you're a soul or right being, whatever it is, it's just completely different 230 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,360 to the person. 231 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,880 I mean, I was 14 at the time. 232 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:25,480 So I think a 14-year-old myself at that time would have been quite having a bit of anger 233 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,760 because I was bullied a lot. 234 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:33,200 It's still excitement as well and all this kind of stuff, but the feelings of a soul 235 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,200 is different. 236 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,640 It's hard to describe it fully. 237 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,960 But yeah, more of a curious nature, I would say. 238 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,280 That was the first feelings I'm feeling. 239 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:47,000 So as I'm looking down on myself and getting to know where I am, not too long after that, 240 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,960 then I'm feeling like I can see maybe 60. 241 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:57,680 So I can then, depends on where I'm focused on, I can feel then another thing happening. 242 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:05,280 So I must have looked away from myself to then look at the wall. 243 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:10,680 And in the theater wall, it looked like it was opening up a portal. 244 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:20,160 It looked like the aurora borealis, greenish, bluish, misty, like a jellyfishy kind of material 245 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,320 going on. 246 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,680 And I was just doing battle and opening up. 247 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,080 I'm noticing three beings traveling towards me. 248 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,680 And these beings were light beings. 249 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:38,720 They have all colors of maybe like a silverish look, but they also sparked different color 250 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,720 colors, green, yellow, blue. 251 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,840 But again, colors are very different to what we see with our eyes now. 252 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,640 It's hard to describe it completely. 253 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,400 But anyway, that's the kind of, they have an edged shape, then they have a shoulders 254 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,360 shape and then they kind of like dissolve a little bit. 255 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,440 So not a lot of detail then? 256 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,680 In the sense of detail wise, they have no features, they've got no eyes. 257 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:08,720 So more light and color without those kinds of details and features. 258 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,720 Interesting. 259 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,720 Yeah. 260 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Yeah, that's why. 261 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:19,040 Some people say that when they come out of the body and they're visited by the first 262 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:26,480 people, some people describe like they saw their grandparents or something like that. 263 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,280 Personally, I didn't see any human reflections at all. 264 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,400 It was more about souls and light beings. 265 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,280 That's what I saw. 266 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:44,880 But at 14, I didn't have any loved ones that's been passed away, what do you mean? 267 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,720 So all my family that I knew were still around. 268 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,760 Okay, so they were coming towards you, keep going. 269 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,160 Yeah, so they were coming towards me. 270 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,920 And so it was like a distance and I could feel them in the work coming towards me. 271 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,360 It didn't take too long, we came quite close quite quickly. 272 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,960 And when we get to a certain point, that's when we started to have a small dialogue with 273 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:08,960 each other. 274 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:17,080 And they're saying to me, you want to come away from this area, and it's like an agreement. 275 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,600 But I knew that, I felt that I knew them and they knew me. 276 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:27,520 There was a lot of love, a lot of unconditional love going off straight away, some recognition 277 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,200 of each other. 278 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,600 So it was like, you know, as if it was like a long lost path to Marinelleboro in some 279 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,600 way. 280 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,400 So not a connection, not a love going off there. 281 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,120 But what kind of communication was there? 282 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:45,480 It was done telepathically. 283 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,040 It wasn't done by mouth and we don't have any mouth. 284 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,560 And so it was done telepathically. 285 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:58,520 And as in that I was thinking they could see it straight away and vice versa, we could 286 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,760 communicate anybody by thoughts. 287 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Tell us about that communication now. 288 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:08,300 What was the, I don't know if conversation is the right word for a telepathic communication 289 00:18:08,300 --> 00:18:13,360 but what was going back and forth and meanings between your minds and theirs? 290 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:16,440 It wasn't a good question. 291 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:24,160 It wasn't a feeling of entered more than it was to say that I know you, you know me, we 292 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,480 are connected to each other. 293 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,560 I think that was that kind of a connection going off. 294 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,640 But it was a short conversation of you want to go away from here. 295 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,920 And my initial thoughts were thinking like, well, I'm not horrified by what I'm seeing 296 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:39,920 down there. 297 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,000 It's not scaring me in any way. 298 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,360 But there was an invite to me to go to the next real home. 299 00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:52,860 So my date bike, again, my curious self now is thinking, okay, yeah, I'll go with you. 300 00:18:52,860 --> 00:18:57,520 So I'm feeling like I felt safe to obviously then go with them as well. 301 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,460 It didn't feel like an unsafe feeling. 302 00:19:00,460 --> 00:19:02,440 So that's something I will say. 303 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,360 We then soon as I immediately said, yeah, let's go away. 304 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:06,360 There we are. 305 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:11,600 But then just by zoom, we might go through like a big like films like a portal or a safe 306 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,600 past. 307 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,720 Don't really be washed into the next realm really. 308 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,320 And so that's where I go into the next place, which is home, really. 309 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,400 All right, tell us about home. 310 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:29,880 Okay, so I'll to describe in English language, again, lots of these things are very hard 311 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,520 to describe in the start, and they're related to Earth at all. 312 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:41,120 I personally didn't see anything like buildings, again, because I've got no arms, got no legs, 313 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:42,120 no facial features. 314 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:46,640 So I've got no need to walk on all ground and hold things. 315 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,000 You don't need to do anything like that. 316 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:57,960 So the ground area I would suggest is more like, you know, like a muffin mist or a what's 317 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:03,720 it called when the rock stars are playing, you can see like a like a fog machine going 318 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,720 back, fog machine going off. 319 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,120 Yeah, it's like a book machine going on. 320 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:11,560 So it's like that kind of a base, I guess. 321 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,400 That's the nearest I would say to it. 322 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,920 And again, maybe it's got a little bit more color to it than just that as well. 323 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,720 The whole place felt like love as well. 324 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,240 That's the hardest thing to describe to you as well. 325 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,160 They felt like a whole place of love. 326 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:31,080 I mean, I was going from a place of love, the soul as a metal soul, I was coming from 327 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,640 a place of love. 328 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,840 The whole everything was love. 329 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,440 It was hard to describe. 330 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,920 It really is the last I think, it really is odd to pinpoint. 331 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:47,040 But so the ground, if we say the ground is especially, again, bottom part, then the top 332 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,280 part is where you can actually fly as well. 333 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:56,680 So I could basically manifest myself to either be on the ground, again, with my intention. 334 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,760 I was intending to be with my guides and to follow them. 335 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,680 So I didn't fly off or anything like that. 336 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:11,840 But I saw flying going off because I saw lots of souls playing some kind of game. 337 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:17,600 And I felt like this game was like a chase or a ball type game. 338 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:22,920 Well, the ball was, in my opinion, it was like a soul that could also manifest itself 339 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:23,920 in two different shapes. 340 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,640 I don't think we're just, we're not a solid anymore. 341 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,520 Manifest ourselves differently. 342 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,360 So this ball was then changing maybe then to another soul. 343 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:37,840 Maybe the soul then wants to like, hey, okay, well, I'm not going to be the ball now. 344 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,600 I'm going to be part of this game instead. 345 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,280 Maybe they could just take it in turns. 346 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,280 I don't know. 347 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,440 I'm just guessing. 348 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,080 So yes, it could be in the air, you can be on the ground. 349 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:57,400 And I'm on the ground with my guides and I'm moving from, it falls from right to left. 350 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,400 So that's where now I'm heading, I'm heading left. 351 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:08,400 And as I'm heading left, I can then see this being on the ground area type thing, where 352 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,080 it's basically had a trauma. 353 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:18,560 So basically my guides tell me, please do not interrupt this being. 354 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,600 This being has some difficulties. 355 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,840 It's now having, reenergizing itself. 356 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,280 And so basically it's getting like colors sparking off it as well. 357 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,560 It's lots of colors going off it as well. 358 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,360 And it looked like it was in like some kind of a cocoon. 359 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:39,800 It looked like it's built itself in the shape of a bubble wrap or a cocoon or something 360 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,120 like that. 361 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,080 And so it was protected. 362 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,440 But I think it did it itself. 363 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,880 Like I said, it manifests itself in different ways. 364 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,520 I think it manifested like a bubble wrap type thing. 365 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,080 Something a 14 year old could relate to a little bit. 366 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,560 Yeah, maybe, maybe. 367 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:03,060 But when it gets to the soul point, I don't feel like I'm a 14 year old anymore in this 368 00:23:03,060 --> 00:23:04,060 realm. 369 00:23:04,060 --> 00:23:12,480 It felt like again, I was more of an inquisitive character who's full of love and yeah, and 370 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,240 an old reflection as well. 371 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:20,780 It felt like when I came back in years later realizing it wasn't a near-death experience, 372 00:23:20,780 --> 00:23:22,540 it was a freedom of that body. 373 00:23:22,540 --> 00:23:26,480 It was nice to have nobody for a manager. 374 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,240 It felt like it was nice to have that body, nobody really. 375 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,420 So let me ask a question about that. 376 00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:34,120 You had had pain most of your life, right? 377 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:35,520 You had lived in pain. 378 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,520 Yes. 379 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,240 And did you realize the fact that that was gone? 380 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,720 I assume it was gone. 381 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,720 Yes. 382 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:48,840 I think the soul, when I came out of my body, like I said, I had no wish to dive in there. 383 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,440 And I felt like the soul had a bit of freedom going on. 384 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,960 I felt free as a soul. 385 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,040 I felt free. 386 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:02,840 And I felt like maybe that was the part of being in a part of it for the body. 387 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,360 I think it was like the curious nature. 388 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:09,200 It felt like a baby would have. 389 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,920 The old, old life brand new. 390 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,320 It felt brand new to me to some extent, really. 391 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,320 Okay. 392 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,960 But yeah, definitely without a body, without that pain and the soul was trying to find 393 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,240 that feeling I'm being honest with you. 394 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,240 Yes. 395 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,040 Was there some kind of event that happened next or something you remember next in the 396 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,040 process? 397 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,040 Yeah. 398 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:37,520 So obviously I'm avoiding contacting this bubble raft soul. 399 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,400 And so I'm leaving that soul alone. 400 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,720 Then we're still then moving on a little bit past that. 401 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,800 And then I'm going to an area which is like a well. 402 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,920 I describe it like a well. 403 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,440 And I've heard other people talk about the life review. 404 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,680 And some people say that it looks like a TV or some people said it looks like a big movie 405 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,680 screen. 406 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,440 And it can be all those kinds of things. 407 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,200 It is a frame of reference. 408 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,660 My frame of reference is a well. 409 00:25:04,660 --> 00:25:11,920 So as I'm looking at this well, it feels like this well then is there in front of me. 410 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,720 But then as I'm looking at it, it dives right into my vision. 411 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:22,240 So I am actually the well and myself are like emerged together. 412 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,640 So the well is like part of me now. 413 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,160 And now I can be able to see everything. 414 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,920 Without this well, I literally feel that my powers of seeing past, present and future 415 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,320 was not possible as a soul. 416 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,400 I can only do it at this point of its life review. 417 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,880 When I'm having this well on me, I saw past. 418 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:54,440 So the past was about school and again in primary school and secondary school, I was 419 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,520 bullied a lot. 420 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:04,600 So I could see from that perspective, the reasons why I also for one moment in time 421 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:10,880 became a bully as well because especially in primary school, I was very, very young. 422 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,880 I was very confused. 423 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,280 Why am I getting bullied? 424 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,780 All that kind of stuff. 425 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:19,740 So I decided at that point, I'm going to become a bully. 426 00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:25,680 So maybe it was a bit of a power control or just to really feel like, okay, enough of 427 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,680 this pain. 428 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,000 I'm going to give some pain back. 429 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,220 So I bullied for a short period. 430 00:26:31,220 --> 00:26:33,520 So I found myself as horrible. 431 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,920 I know and that's what this is why I do. 432 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,200 I'm not happy about what I did. 433 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,200 But anyway, so I found younger targets that I could bully. 434 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,200 And so I found those and those easy targets. 435 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,040 So I bullied them for a short period. 436 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,880 And so during the life of you, I could see their pain. 437 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,840 I could see, oh, why is he doing that to me? 438 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,840 That is not nice. 439 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,200 But you know, the pain that does get it in from that as well, the anger, the pain, the 440 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,920 frustration, I could feel it all from their point of view. 441 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,400 Now it's not like a chastise thing. 442 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,600 It's not like a teacher to a bully. 443 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,080 You shouldn't have done that. 444 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,920 You know, start back and over telling off is more of an understanding of like, was that 445 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,920 a good idea? 446 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,920 No, it was, you know, it's almost like communication. 447 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,040 Say, really, that was the best thing to do. 448 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,760 So it's like a learning event rather than a telling off event. 449 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,960 So you were able to learn without feeling, did you feel guilt and shame or just learning? 450 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:42,280 Yeah, it's the pain of knowing that I'm hurting others from doing what I did. 451 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:49,000 So it's made me aware that if I'm hurting you, I'm just only hurting myself really. 452 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,360 So it's that instinct. 453 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:59,560 And also, it wasn't more of a guilt feelings and that guilt in the human sense is, does 454 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,720 that exist in that realm? 455 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,880 If that makes sense to you. 456 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,280 Yeah, that's interesting. 457 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,360 And I've heard that from other people too, that they saw things that in this life they 458 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:15,080 would say, well, I'm sure I'm not proud that I did that, but they didn't feel guilt. 459 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:20,720 So I'm sort of led to believe that guilt is a feeling that we have here on earth in this 460 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,720 body. 461 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:29,520 I think it's something, I think guilt is something that is taught to people and, you know, it 462 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:35,920 manifests by, it manifests by a parent or a teacher would do, because obviously they've 463 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,000 learnt it as well. 464 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:44,120 So we basically manifest and we basically become our parents. 465 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,960 So I could literally do the same as well, which is that. 466 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,800 We just come from our own family, we're my parents. 467 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,480 So I've learned things from my parents and vice versa. 468 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,400 So in this life review, did you see anything previous to that or anything in the future? 469 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,520 Okay. 470 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,200 I saw past past as well. 471 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,200 Okay. 472 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:15,560 So we, the past before the child, the primary school stuff, I saw previous deaths as well, 473 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:21,240 which is, it's all quite linear by the way, if that's the right word for it. 474 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,240 But basically I'm able to see everything and everything in one go. 475 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,480 I'm like a download of a computer in this moment. 476 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,800 So everything was happening to me all at once, but I could take it. 477 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,080 My brain, I don't have a brain, I could absorb it. 478 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:42,600 So, but if I was to use my human side of things, I will go then from, yeah, I saw previous 479 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,040 deaths. 480 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:50,880 The previous deaths were like, almost like a whole lot of cards falling over and I could 481 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:56,840 literally, if I wanted to, maybe take a card and examine it a little bit longer. 482 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,280 But I didn't, I think maybe I couldn't have done, but I didn't do that. 483 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,720 I saw one particular death and it not horrified me as a 14 year old now, but if you can like, 484 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,720 that was gross. 485 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,720 It was really horrible. 486 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,480 It was spikes. 487 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:17,840 I could literally see my body and then literally a wooden spike coming out of my chest and 488 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,880 that's where I'm dying. 489 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,640 And on this wooden spike, I'm thinking like, that was gross. 490 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,640 That was horrible. 491 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,880 And so that was one thing I remember quite clearly on that death. 492 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,880 There were sort of the ones as well, but I can't recall every single one that I saw. 493 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,680 But there's ones that I remember seeing one where I was having a fight in a like a village 494 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:45,520 type thing and one person was angry about something and we had a bit of a fight and 495 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,800 then I'm dying because he basically killed me in this fight. 496 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,560 So I can see that one as well. 497 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,680 That was, you know, the more horrific ones I remember. 498 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,880 So I saw that and then I saw them present. 499 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,840 I could see my parents in the kitchen. 500 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,160 I could see my parents' thoughts as well. 501 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,680 And some people asked the questions, okay, so why are your parents in the kitchen? 502 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,720 Why not in our school with you? 503 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,960 Just because at 14, I was very, very mature and I would most likely have said to my parents, 504 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,480 I'll give you a call. 505 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:27,080 Once I'm out of the operation in the ward and I'm awake, then I'll give you a call. 506 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,840 That would be my process at that time. 507 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:35,120 So if people are wondering why my parents are in the kitchen, that's why I'm explaining 508 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,120 it. 509 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,560 So my parents' thoughts are, wonder how Paul's doing? 510 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,080 Will make some nice food for him. 511 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:49,360 And when we go over to him, you'll enjoy these chocolates and things like that and all that 512 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,360 kind of thing. 513 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,640 So they was thinking that about me. 514 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,720 Then I can go into the future as well. 515 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,320 I had 14 years of age. 516 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,440 I didn't realize it was any of that experience, first of all. 517 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,360 But then also I didn't understand the reasons why I've been showing ahead of me. 518 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,040 I saw Russia. 519 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:17,120 My wife is a Russian lady, but I didn't understand the whole process why I'm flying over Russia. 520 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,120 I could see a ceremony and again, I didn't know what it was exactly. 521 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:31,280 But on hindsight, or whatever it's called, I'm actually having my wedding day in Russia. 522 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,600 And like a big deja vu goes off thinking like, that was the moment that I saw my Russia. 523 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,040 I'm literally in this room waiting for Julia to arrive. 524 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,880 And that was decided, same feelings, nervous, I felt nervous, excited, loving, all these 525 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,880 kind of things. 526 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,480 But just wondering what's happening, what's going on? 527 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,160 And I was in Russia at that moment thinking, yeah, that's what I saw. 528 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,960 It's my native experience. 529 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,040 So it was that moment there. 530 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640 I saw myself driving. 531 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,120 I thought, as a fortunate old man, I would rather drive. 532 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,560 Having spymethod, I thought I never drive. 533 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,240 And so that was the thing I saw, excited and happy. 534 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,040 And I passed the driving test when I was 17. 535 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800 And I think it was that moment there. 536 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:27,200 I saw things like future death, where it looks like I'm in Russia, because I'm actually coming 537 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,200 out of my body. 538 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,200 I'm actually a very old person on a bed in a flat. 539 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:39,200 And I could see one lady next to me and another lady on the other side of the bed. 540 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,880 And my wife and my daughter, I'm thinking now on reflection, they could be my wife, 541 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,880 it could be my daughter. 542 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,760 And I'm very old. 543 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:55,160 And basically, I could see just naturally passing away from age and just old really, 544 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,160 yeah. 545 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:01,560 And I'd actually see my body coming out and I'm having like a hidden experience or life 546 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,760 sort of coming out of my body. 547 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,720 And I can then see Russia or some kind of landscape that looks like a Russia. 548 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:10,320 So yeah, that's one thing. 549 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,560 And maybe I will probably pass away in years to come in Russia. 550 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,600 Okay. 551 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,960 Was there much more before you came back to your body? 552 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,440 There was some kind of an education going off as well. 553 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,840 And I don't get it at all, because the human form, my brain, especially my IQ level, you 554 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,360 can't absorb it all. 555 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,200 But what I do remember was things like the spark of life. 556 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,560 I can remember seeing birth happening. 557 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,200 So the sperm hits in the egg, the spark of life. 558 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:51,520 And then I see that baby again born dead of one birth growing in the livers to me and 559 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,320 then becoming born. 560 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,560 Maybe it was myself as well, part of my own development and growth. 561 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:07,080 Then I saw things like burgers and fast food and the arteries clocking go and all that 562 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,080 kind of thing. 563 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:14,920 So I'm thinking, okay, I want to be interested in fast food on that basis. 564 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,120 So I saw that kind of thing going on. 565 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:24,280 I saw things like, I don't remember, there was like a big kind of education that went 566 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,280 off. 567 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,280 I saw a tree. 568 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,600 Something happened with the tree, I didn't know what this tree was about, but I saw energy 569 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,800 going in, energy going out. 570 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,360 And it looked like it's like a holographic tree. 571 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,800 I'll describe it exactly, but it looked holographic. 572 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,840 So everything made look holographic on that side of things. 573 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:49,840 So I saw this massive tree that had this energy out going out. 574 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,720 And I also saw dogs and cats for some reason. 575 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,120 I don't know why. 576 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,000 I remember seeing cats purring. 577 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:04,760 When the cats purr, I could see then from my soul, I could see shapes, colors going 578 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:12,080 off and the owners there, the cats like purring and I could see this color, the shapes going 579 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,080 from its neck. 580 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,760 And it looked like it's like healing or showing love or both. 581 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,760 So I could see that. 582 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:24,720 And I could see then dogs being made because they want to protect, want to show unconditional 583 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:31,120 love and almost like teaching, hey guys, this is how you do it. 584 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,880 And it felt like dogs are there just to show you, yeah, you need a lot of humans, you need 585 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,640 a lot of them and they got a long way to you. 586 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,480 So that's what I felt like from the pets and that side of things. 587 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,800 That was the other kind of download I felt like I had. 588 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,520 So interesting. 589 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:56,080 So at some point, was there a telepathic conversation with these three beings about, okay, Paul, 590 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,280 you're going to stay or you're going to go back? 591 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,280 Yes. 592 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,360 So whilst the light review was done, then it was like I was then next into this realm, 593 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:14,360 not realm, but area of this home where the three beings are still with me and the lights, 594 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,840 I seen everyone's, well, not everyone, but a lot of people talk about seeing the light 595 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,800 and I did start to see a light, but it asked me the question, Paul, that would be nice 596 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,200 on Paul, would you like to stay here or would you like to go back to being Paul down there? 597 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:36,920 At that moment, I felt naturally that if I was to stay here, I knew a soul that I'm going 598 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,120 to go back and do it all again. 599 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,840 And I knew I was going to be Paul again in a real wild time. 600 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,840 I felt like I was going to go back to being starting as a baby again, going back to school, 601 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,520 going back to being bullied, going back to have all operations. 602 00:37:52,520 --> 00:38:00,040 I thought, no, my soul naturally said, no, I've come this far, let's keep going. 603 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,600 So my soul decided to do that. 604 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:09,400 And as I'm saying all these thoughts and also saying I'm young and the guides are saying 605 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:15,280 to me, yes, you're young, almost like agreement with each other and they're saying, okay, 606 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,560 so you want to go back? 607 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,160 Yes, I want to go back. 608 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,800 As I'm agreeing then to go back, then that's it. 609 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:29,560 I can't remember, but I just wake up in the after the operation, I'm waking up with this 610 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,160 device on my leg and I'm actually basically full of beans. 611 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:40,160 I'm actually really like, I've had a lot of energy come to me somehow. 612 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,160 I don't know why. 613 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Maybe it was a driving shock that gave me or it was just like the feeling of the love 614 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,160 was still in me from this event. 615 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,560 I don't know, but I was full of energy. 616 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,200 And did you talk to the doctor about what happened? 617 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,200 Yeah. 618 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:07,160 But again, I'm 14, it was 1986, so near-death experiences wasn't around as far as I was 619 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,160 aware. 620 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,040 1986 maybe it happened, but it wasn't documented. 621 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,040 I've never heard of them. 622 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,040 I was a 14 year old lad. 623 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:21,160 I personally thought it was like a very, very vivid or very, very surreal dream. 624 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,040 I thought that's what I thought it was. 625 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:30,160 So I thought, okay, I'll tell my parents about it and my parents were like, yeah, he's a 626 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,240 bit of a nutter, this last hero, he's a bit crazy. 627 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:41,520 So I thought, okay, well, let's go, I didn't go back on staff really until a lot later. 628 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,280 But my parents then was visited with Mr. Newton. 629 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:52,600 Mr. Newton came around to say hi and see how I was doing after the operation. 630 00:39:52,600 --> 00:40:00,960 And he had to tell my parents, unfortunately, Paul did every reaction to this muscle accident. 631 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:07,960 And we've put a big breast sticker on my folder and we had to resist the staining. 632 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:14,880 So that was me saying, okay, so yeah, I obviously did die and I have to be brought back to life 633 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,880 again. 634 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,120 At 14, I can't imagine trying to process that. 635 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,860 You mentioned that at first you thought it was just a dream. 636 00:40:21,860 --> 00:40:23,340 How do you know that it wasn't? 637 00:40:23,340 --> 00:40:25,280 How do you know it was more than just that? 638 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,720 Yeah, I mean, dreams don't stay with me. 639 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:30,640 I don't remember any dreams. 640 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,640 I don't dream. 641 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,000 When I do dream, I can remember certain things. 642 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,080 It's always like surreal stuff. 643 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,800 But this one stayed with me. 644 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,880 Even now, if I close my eyes and try to remember how it looked and things like that, I can 645 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,360 still see it. 646 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,960 And the life review and all that stuff, I can still remember it quite clearly. 647 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,960 I just really shy. 648 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,560 I remember the whole download of, which my brain could take the whole download of all 649 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,960 that education, because there's more to it than that. 650 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,840 There was definitely more of that. 651 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,880 In comparison to a dream, it was more vivid. 652 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,080 It was more real than a dream was. 653 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:17,680 And the communication, the lessons, seeing my past, my present, my future, actually seeing 654 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,800 things like what's happened now. 655 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:26,920 I mean, just to go a little bit further on the things that happened in the future. 656 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,920 I used to live alone. 657 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,960 When I got to my 30s, I started to drink a bit too much alcohol. 658 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,520 I was a bit low, depressed. 659 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,360 I'm just going to stay single. 660 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,280 And so I was not happy. 661 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:50,840 So I remember saying, I'm sitting on the sofa and I've got a little drink in my hand and 662 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,320 thinking of something stupid. 663 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,200 And I'll be honest with you, Eric, it was one of my darkest times. 664 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:05,040 I thought, okay, there's like a stairs in the room, in the house. 665 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,880 It's far like an open-hand stairs. 666 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,440 So I could have got a Thai meal and just ended it. 667 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,440 Okay. 668 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,360 So I was in, I was depressed, all that happy. 669 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:24,520 And another moment of that thought process, there was also in my future that I could see, 670 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,320 was this feeling of life. 671 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:33,040 I could see someone left hanging themselves in the same scenario, stairs. 672 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,600 I was clapping. 673 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:40,560 So this thought process, this voice came to me saying, Paul, you remember the Nidhav experience? 674 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,560 Yes. 675 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,560 You remember what happened. 676 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,560 You want to do this? 677 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,560 You sure you want to go back again? 678 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,560 You want to do it all again? 679 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,560 No, I don't want me to go back again. 680 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,560 We'll keep going. 681 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,320 Just change and keep going. 682 00:42:51,320 --> 00:43:01,200 So I knew instantly, I finished my life now, I want to go back to school again, operations. 683 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,200 And so I thought, okay. 684 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:08,560 From that moment, then my alcohol intake started to reduce. 685 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:14,960 And then not long after that, I met up with Julia and got married. 686 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,960 Happy ending. 687 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,960 Yeah, very much so. 688 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,000 And yeah, it feels like we've got paths. 689 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,560 And if we got, I mean, I could have chosen the path of alcohol and doing that something 690 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,560 stupid. 691 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,560 Maybe I did it in my previous life. 692 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,360 Maybe I've had a few bad egos already. 693 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:37,040 Maybe before and alteration number five has had a, you know, and maybe my guides said, 694 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,760 okay, let's do a native experience this time. 695 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,760 Let's make sure you understood. 696 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,600 Don't do that again. 697 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,640 You know, so maybe that's why I have it. 698 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,000 That's an interesting thought. 699 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,560 I don't know the answer to that. 700 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:56,080 Do you feel like you came back with any specific message, any specific, you know, here's the 701 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,880 biggest takeaway from this? 702 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:05,520 The biggest takeaway from my end of it is that there was three key words that came through 703 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,440 for me and it was the three words I'll always say to people that it's all about love. 704 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,360 It's all about the learning and it's all about the connection. 705 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:19,040 So love is basically, obviously love each other and no matter what and really is to 706 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,960 get rid of our labels. 707 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,880 And that's what, that's why I do a thing called Yellow Planet. 708 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,680 It's a channel on YouTube and it shoots and all that kind of thing. 709 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,280 But we do interviews as well. 710 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,680 You can do an interview with yourself, the online ones too Eric as well, just to give 711 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,480 you that if you wanted to do that, that'll help you. 712 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,240 And we interview guests about their experiences and their consciousness and all that kind 713 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:45,240 of thing. 714 00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:51,080 So yeah, love is about really to love each other, throw away the labels and just connect 715 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,520 with each other. 716 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,120 Learning is about we're going to learn from each other. 717 00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:01,600 And if we learn from our mistakes and then just come back to people, that's about the 718 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,840 learning and then unity and connection is really about again, throw away the labels 719 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,200 and let's get together rather than dividing each other. 720 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,200 I like it. 721 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,460 That's a nice message. 722 00:45:13,460 --> 00:45:18,400 One of the things that concerns me often when I, especially when I'm talking to people that 723 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:25,920 had an NDE back in the era that you did, 70s, 80s, that kind of thing, it was very misunderstood. 724 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,560 People thought you were crazy. 725 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000 Do you feel like it's gotten a lot better now? 726 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,840 It's more understood, more accepted that this is a real thing. 727 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,400 Yeah, I think so. 728 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:44,120 And I generally feel that people are having near-death experiences and I've been nudged. 729 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,480 I don't like talking about it. 730 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,240 I know it sounds horrible to say, I don't like talking about this stuff Eric. 731 00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:50,240 I really don't. 732 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:51,240 I mean, I'm not. 733 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:52,920 My one thing is that I like to listen. 734 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,720 I don't like to talk. 735 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,640 It's just one of those things about me. 736 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,840 But something has pushed me and it says, boy, you need to figure your story out. 737 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:07,320 The reason why I think is I think all of us have to do these things. 738 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,040 Not for money, not for gain, it's to change the world. 739 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:18,080 And if people are going to watch and listen to these interviews, then people might think, 740 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,400 actually, yeah, let's make a change. 741 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,960 So if someone hears my story and thinking like, yeah, the love, learning, connection, 742 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,960 fantastic. 743 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,760 If it's helped them a little bit on that way, then amazing. 744 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,760 We can change the world. 745 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,480 We just need to make this world a lot more better because this world is, I don't want 746 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,560 to go too political, but it is corrupt. 747 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,040 And I think we really want to, you know, become better than this. 748 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,600 You know, we don't need to fight. 749 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,640 We don't need to do war. 750 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,480 You're absolutely right on all of that. 751 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:51,040 On the love part, the love that you felt there, was it similar to the love you feel here? 752 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,040 Unconditional love. 753 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:58,040 I mean, with my family and friends, yeah, it's not conditional. 754 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,040 It isn't conditional. 755 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,120 You know, we love each other unconditionally. 756 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,320 In that realm, it's unconditional. 757 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,760 But in certain aspects in the world, yeah, it's conditional love. 758 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,440 I don't need love here. 759 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,160 And that's not a healthy love. 760 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,160 That's not the right way to go. 761 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,760 But unconditional love, you know, no matter what you do, I still love you. 762 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,960 And that's the way it is there. 763 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,680 That's what you felt there is what you're saying. 764 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,680 Yeah. 765 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,680 Yeah. 766 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,280 I mean, even if I caused the pain to the children that I bullied in school, they still love 767 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,280 me. 768 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,480 I mean, it was a stupid maneuver. 769 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,600 It was not the best thing to say. 770 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,320 I realized that. 771 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,320 I heard you. 772 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,000 I heard it from myself. 773 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,320 Another thing that maybe you can explain to me, a lot of the people that I interview, 774 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:52,200 they talk about feeling one with everybody, not only with God, but with all the people, 775 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,200 all the beings. 776 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,020 And you're using the word connection. 777 00:47:56,020 --> 00:48:00,240 What did you learn there that makes connection make have a deeper meaning here? 778 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:05,880 Yeah, I think we are all tapping into the one consciousness. 779 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,920 Some people try to investigate where is consciousness, what is consciousness, how do we call it, 780 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,920 conscious. 781 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,720 And I do believe it's some kind of a Wi-Fi thing. 782 00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:22,880 We can't see it, but I feel that we are not necessarily born with consciousness. 783 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:30,800 We are tapping into like a Wi-Fi around maybe the earth and we become conscious that way. 784 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,600 So we're basically sharing the one consciousness. 785 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:42,400 Again, if I heard you, I'm writing myself, so we are basically one of the same. 786 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:48,440 So no matter, you could be black, you could be male, female, it doesn't matter. 787 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:54,280 We're basically a soul being in a body, having a human experience. 788 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,400 That's all we are. 789 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,460 Having a human experience, that's a great way to put it. 790 00:48:58,460 --> 00:49:05,240 So Paul, you've lived in a body your whole life that's had pain and not, I hate to use 791 00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:13,280 the word normal, but not, I don't even want to say not as good as other people's bodies. 792 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,040 That just sounds terrible because it's your body and it's yours and it's great. 793 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:23,580 But there have been some disadvantages with it too and some pain that's come with it. 794 00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:29,000 Do you feel like there was a point before you came here that you chose this body? 795 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,120 You just mentioned about having a human experience here. 796 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,600 Relate those two things. 797 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,600 Okay, yeah. 798 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:45,720 I do feel that I chose this body and I feel like I've had many different types of avatars 799 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:46,720 in my life. 800 00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:51,960 I feel like maybe I've had the soul of this type, person dying, all of this wouldn't spike, 801 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,080 it looked like I was in Greek, Roman time. 802 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,240 It looked like maybe I was a gladiator or something. 803 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:04,040 I don't know what it was really, but I feel like I've had many different types of lives. 804 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,800 I think I've been male, I've been female. 805 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,640 I think I've been basically choosing all types of characters. 806 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:20,440 I feel like I'm an old soul now, more older, through many experiences. 807 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:26,080 I feel like I needed to get to have this particular life and I think I chose this body. 808 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,720 I don't want to upset people who have got disabilities thinking, well, I didn't ask 809 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,160 to be here and all this kind of thing. 810 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,640 I don't want them to feel that way. 811 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,640 Hopefully they don't feel that way. 812 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:44,400 But I feel like I chose to be here and I chose to be having this kind of body experience. 813 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,640 What I feel like I've learned from this body experience, I feel like I've learned a lot 814 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:54,120 about most, I've learned a lot about patience and a lot about determination. 815 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,560 So that's where I feel like I've learned a lot more about in this particular match, 816 00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,560 so to say. 817 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,560 So it was worth it. 818 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:01,560 Worth it, definitely. 819 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,240 What do you see long-term? 820 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:11,400 I mean, you actually saw in this life review a head of an old person passing away in Russia. 821 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,200 What do you think happens beyond that? 822 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:23,040 Yeah, I feel like this world is still going to be here. 823 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,480 I don't think it's going to blow up. 824 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:30,480 I mean, there's lots of news saying about the Kyrgyz war, this and that. 825 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,720 I think not. 826 00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:38,480 I feel like, you know, these, I think sometimes our friends up there, you have the bows and 827 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:46,560 panings, I think if they see the boys with the toys with these big fire guns and bullets 828 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,800 and stuff like this, then they will stop this. 829 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,480 They'll never stop that in my opinion. 830 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:58,320 And anyway, I think that in the future that I will, yeah, step in and grow old and I will 831 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:04,520 be with my wife, I'll work with my daughter and yeah, it'll be in Russia or some kind 832 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,160 of Russian country, maybe like a, I don't know, Bulgaria or something like that. 833 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,960 I don't know, but it'll look like a Russia. 834 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:19,360 But my future, I feel like I'm here to keep spreading these words. 835 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,160 I will continue to do these interviews just to help people. 836 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:28,120 And I hope that we will then push the boundaries a little bit more of why we're here, what 837 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,920 we're here to do and to get people more loving with each other. 838 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,680 Because if we all became like a domino effect for each other, you know, I push one domino, 839 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,880 a bit more towards them like, yeah, okay, what was the answer? 840 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:41,880 Great. 841 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,880 That's what it's all about. 842 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,920 So I'll just push one more domino of the like that. 843 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,120 And if people want to find more of your content, where do they go online? 844 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,120 Okay. 845 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:58,000 So I've got a channel that is called Unite, it's not United, it's United Planet, but someone 846 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,040 else took that title, out there, they. 847 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:08,840 So I chose Unite Planet instead, which it feels like it's more like a current word, 848 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,040 Unite Planet type thing. 849 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:17,440 So it's on YouTube and it's also on BitChute, can be on there. 850 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,760 Also on Facebook, we have a group page on there. 851 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,680 Again, it's still called Unite Planet. 852 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,280 Basically it's like a circle, like a planet shape. 853 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,200 It's got orange, blue, purple kind of colors going off. 854 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,920 So it's like, really nice colors, hopefully. 855 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,840 And yeah, so that's what it's about. 856 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,460 So we're on there. 857 00:53:43,460 --> 00:53:49,320 Another thing I do is I've written a book and it's called Walk Oblived, Feet on the 858 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,320 Ground. 859 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:55,920 It's basically on Amazon, I think it's on Kindle as well. 860 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,800 So if people want to read my book, you're welcome to. 861 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:06,660 What it was, it was in my forties, I decided to write my story, really. 862 00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:14,880 So it includes my native experience, it includes my issues with Spadgiffa, but also a lot of 863 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:15,880 humor. 864 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:21,160 I do have a good humor and so I tried to use a lot of email in my book and people have 865 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:26,840 said to me, they read the book and told me how much they've enjoyed it, how much it's 866 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,840 helped them. 867 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:33,040 I've had people reviewing my book and writing it in Amazon saying how much they've helped 868 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,040 as well. 869 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,720 So for that I feel like I've done something good that way as well. 870 00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:41,240 So you can contact me on Facebook. 871 00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:45,080 I think it's Paul Northridge, author, so you can contact me that way as well. 872 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,320 We'll put some links in the show notes to all this and I'll bet your book is fun, I 873 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,200 haven't read it yet. 874 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:55,040 Last question, on a scale of one to 10, how afraid of death are you? 875 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,040 Zero. 876 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,520 I'm not afraid at all, I'm afraid. 877 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,960 And it's nothing good. 878 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:09,680 I mean, when I came out of my body, I was in pain a little bit, not to the point where, 879 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,240 oh gosh, I'm about to die. 880 00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:19,280 And I felt like as soon as I got to the point of death, then I'm literally unplugged straight 881 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,280 away. 882 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,600 So it's not a painful maneuver, if you understand me. 883 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,720 You're basically putting yourself straight away as soon as you're about to die, you're 884 00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:31,680 unplugged straight away and then you're then seen black. 885 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,000 That's the worst thing I remember. 886 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,640 So death is not really, and it's not the end. 887 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,240 You keep coming back and you will keep coming back. 888 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:45,600 Let me go back to be a male, a female, a black person, white person, you'll have all these 889 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,640 more experiences ahead of yourselves. 890 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,360 And people ask me the question, so why keep coming back here? 891 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,520 And it's a horrible place to visit. 892 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,880 And well, I hope that maybe my story's helped a little bit. 893 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,120 I think your story has. 894 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,240 I think there's one person out there, that's all that matters, if there's one person out 895 00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,720 there that this helps and I think it has. 896 00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:06,720 Okay, thank you. 897 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:07,720 Thank you very much. 898 00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:08,720 All right. 899 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:09,720 Anyway, thanks for being with us today. 900 00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:10,720 Appreciate it. 901 00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:11,720 I appreciate it. 902 00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:12,720 Thanks, Eric. 903 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:13,720 Thanks for your time today. 904 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:14,720 I really appreciate it. 905 00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:15,720 Thank you. 906 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:21,680 If you have had a round trip death experience, we would love to hear about it. 907 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,360 Send an email to eric at roundtripdeath.com. 908 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,680 And lastly, if you have found this program uplifting, 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