#321 - Paul Dies In the Operating Room At Age 14

0:00 I had intense fear and panic because we were obviously crashing. Out of my heart came the thought, oh God help, I'm going to die. From the time that they pronounced me dead was a good 45 minutes. It's determined that I was not breathing for 20 minutes. They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped. And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my physical body because I was somewhere else. About 20 past four in the afternoon, by half past seven I was dead, clinically dead, four minutes. And they were crying because I was dead and I was trying to tell them, no I'm not dead, I'm just fine, I'm okay.

0:45 I was greeted by people I had known in the past. I started to feel like I was surrounded by all this warm, loving, beautiful, soothing, loving energy. I'm back with God again. I just felt this almighty release like, wow, I'm back, I'm back home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home. I'd come back home, it was a very strong feeling, I've come back home. The only thing that I could feel, if you can imagine, absolute love and peace. There wasn't anything else to be felt. And light is literally emitting from him. And I could feel that that tremendous amount of love was coming through him as well.

1:26 They were brighter than everybody else and I just knew who they were. I'd like to welcome everybody to Round Trip Desk. Hey, it's good to see you. We have a guest clear across the pond again today. This is getting to be a regular thing to be over in the UK and I want to try to pronounce it right, okay? So we have Paul Northridge and he is in Derbyshire. Correct, that's correct. Yes, okay. I'm glad to hear that. First thing, my first question of the day is, do you have a t-shirt that says, unite?

2:06 What's the bottom say? Unite planet. Unite, don't fight. What does that mean? As it says on the tin, yeah, just to unite everyone together and to, yeah, just to be friendly with each other and basically to throw away labels and yeah, just be together. This is John Lennon's song that that reminds me of. Would you sing it for us? I don't sing, first of all. And secondly, I'm not a big fan of the Beatles, so that's another thing. No, okay. We now have nothing in common. Hey, Paul.

2:46 I appreciate you jumping on with us today. Tell us a little bit about yourself. Okay, so just to dive into my history before the near-death experience. So I was born with spina bifida and so I had a birth defect on my spine. It basically was a hole in the back. It was part of a large hole for a baby. And so basically I was on a death door quite early on. I had a lot of blood going out, so that had to be sonaled very, very quickly. And then once the hole was sonaled, then another thing started to happen is called hydrocephalus.

3:31 And that means it's a fluid on the brain. So that was basically my brain was getting quite, well, unfortunately big, but not more IQ level, unfortunately, but it's getting bigger because of the fluid. And so they thought, okay, well, let's now do a shunt operation. So the shunt operation in 1972 was quite a dangerous procedure. So basically meant like a fixator had to go around the head and then the drain of the fluid would happen from this device. So my parents being, well, my mum being Catholic, she was really concerned about the operation.

4:14 It was risky for a baby. So they said, okay, well, let's have it baptized. So the day before the operation, I was baptized. My parents on that day, when they came back from the ceremony, they said, okay, well, I hope this, maybe this ceremony might help in some way. Because it felt something happened that day. And so they said, okay, let's see what happens anyway. And so long story short, in that one, the morning of my operation, my parents got a phone call and said, Mr. and Mrs. Northridge, yes. Well, fortunately, we've got some good news for you.

4:57 Paul's brain swelling issue, had to go for this, is no longer the case. It's actually now reducing. I don't know if it was some kind of miracle or it's just how it was. I mean, I just see it how it was really, for self. But anyway, so long story short, I came close to death a couple of times in early stages. And then, yeah, I can then now go into the time when I was 14, if you like, Eric. Well, tell me how has that affected your health throughout your life, the spina bifida? Spina bifida, okay. Okay. So my main issue is about paralysis.

5:38 The right leg is 90% paralyzed. I can't feel most of my right leg at all. But being a kid, I was still quite a strong, serene lad. My parents, especially my dad, was a bit of a sighted major. He wasn't a sighted major in behavior or anything like that, but he was like a sighted major in nature. He was the person that would give me a bit of a kick and come on, Paul, you can, you can, if you will. So I had operations regularly. So I must have walked. So I started to walk maybe around about a little bit older than some children, maybe around about three, four. I started to walk.

6:19 So a little bit later than most children. And then I went to normal school. And that was difficult because, unfortunately, I got bullied a lot because I was any child that had a disability. So that was quite significant with my near-death experience. I'll tell you a little bit more later about that. In regards to pain levels and tiredness, spine bifida is very, very tiring in nature and it's also quite painful. But I deal with it. And I think most people, if they have a day of going into my body and lifting my body for a day or for a day, yeah, let's go back to our body again, shall we?

7:01 It's not the best body to have. Well, I'll let our listeners know you look healthy and strong. Yeah, yeah. I mean, same, you know, I mean, I'm also quite, I do believe in, we manifest things ourselves as well. And I think I manifest myself as quite a strong person. And I am, I am quite strong. My dad gave me a very strong character. So I'm very determined. I still work. I'm a full-time worker. I can sit on the bottom. I can talk to people. So I don't, I can't be a waiter in a hotel or I can't be, you know, something that involves my legs. So I can sit down. I can talk to people and I help people in recruitment.

7:44 So I get young people to have jobs. And I love my job because it is changing people's lives. And so that's amazing, really. Yeah, that's awesome. Okay, good. Well, let's go back to when you were 14 years old, what led up to the surgery and what happened at that time? Okay. So the operation I was due to have was called a brunner operation. The brunner operation is a leg-rentening operation. The right leg, because of the paralysis, it was very, very slow in growth.

8:25 The right leg would not grow as fast as the left leg. The left leg has got, I'll say about 80% feeling okay, but 10% feeling a bit paralyzed. So I could still drive with my left leg. So that's the stronger leg. The right leg was short by about, I'll say about, do you know centimeters in America? Centimeters, your? Yeah, it's about two and a half to an inch, something like that. Inches, inches. Okay. If we do inches. So I'll say around about four to five inches, differences. Okay. That's a big, yeah, that's a big, big difference.

9:05 Yeah. So originally I was having a built up shoe. So the shoe was really heavy for me. And I was using catapults as well. So it was quite hard to move and walk. So my surgeon, he was a good guy called Mr. Newton. He didn't like being a doctor or anything like that. He always wanted to be called Mr. Newton. You have that kind of ego. He didn't have that kind of ego to say I'm better. And he was just a nice guy. So he decided, okay, this operation will lengthen my leg.

9:46 And they did go ahead of myself a little bit. But in the short period of time, in six weeks period, my dad had to like turn a key on this device and my leg stretched every day more and more because what they did was they, my thigh bone had two pins, another break, then another two pins above the break. And then so this device then basically opened this break, opened and opened and opened. So eventually my leg grew and I'm about two inches in the short period. That sounds like some kind of medieval torture chamber. It wasn't painful.

10:27 Really? Oh, that's great. Well, compared to maybe some people, it's painful, but I've also got a very good threshold of pain. I mean, I don't really bother with it too much, but yeah, it basically grew quite a lot in that short period. And it was painful on cleaning the wounds, but a lot of them had to clean the pins with iodine regularly. So that was the painful part. But anyway, so going back to the actual operation. So I was 14 and I was quite old in nature by 14. I've had a lot of operations.

11:09 I'm very old, already quite mature at 14. I'm more like a 20 something year old person in my head because I've had a lot going off. So I'm in the theatre. Before that they gave me a pre-med. The pre-med made me feel rather drunk. It just makes you relaxed. That's the whole idea of the pre-med, just to make you feel relaxed. Then they gave me a muscle relaxant. That was then a very, very bad reaction to me because I was then going to have an anesthetic after that.

11:50 So I was getting ready for that. Anyway, so they gave me this muscle relaxant and not too long after that I felt like a whole whoosh. I can't describe how excited I was. It just felt like a whole flush came up and I could feel really painful hands. My hands were pulsating and I thought, okay, what's that? So I looked at my hands straight away and they were twice as big and they were swollen. So I was thinking, oh God, this is not good. So I'm already panicking at this moment thinking I've got a reaction going on. I'm shouting to Mr. Newton.

12:32 Mr. Newton is ready. He's getting himself ready for the procedure. So I said, Mr. Newton, please look at me. And as he's then turning around to look at me, I can see his panic in his eyes. And then I'm out. It feels like at that moment I'm literally unplugged. It feels like I'm seeing black. But at this moment I don't have anything in my eyes. I'm not a person anymore. I'm actually a soul. So I'm seeing black in my vision of what I can see. And as I'm seeing black and aware of black, then I'm coming out of my body at an angle, which is not directly over my body, but I'm at an angle so I can see my body.

13:24 I can also see stuff around my body. So yeah, I'm not panicking at that moment. I'm not concerned. It was more of my natural self was thinking, OK, where am I? Oh, that was my body. Like as if I was looking at a vehicle that's just been, I've just cracked my vehicle and I'm not really concerned about it anymore. He wasn't like, oh gosh, I want to get back to my body again. He wasn't any of that nature at all. So you felt calm, you felt relaxed, just sort of interesting. What's going on? Yeah, exactly. That kind of nature. Curious, I would say.

14:04 Very, very curious. That was my feelings. And the thing when you're a soul or right being, whatever it is, it's just completely different to the person. I mean, I was 14 at the time. So I think a 14-year-old myself at that time would have been quite having a bit of anger because I was bullied a lot. It's still excitement as well and all this kind of stuff, but the feelings of a soul is different. It's hard to describe it fully. But yeah, more of a curious nature, I would say. That was the first feelings I'm feeling. So as I'm looking down on myself and getting to know where I am, not too long after that, then I'm feeling like I can see maybe 60.

14:50 So I can then, depends on where I'm focused on, I can feel then another thing happening. So I must have looked away from myself to then look at the wall. And in the theater wall, it looked like it was opening up a portal. It looked like the aurora borealis, greenish, bluish, misty, like a jellyfishy kind of material going on. And I was just doing battle and opening up. I'm noticing three beings traveling towards me. And these beings were light beings.

15:31 They have all colors of maybe like a silverish look, but they also sparked different color colors, green, yellow, blue. But again, colors are very different to what we see with our eyes now. It's hard to describe it completely. But anyway, that's the kind of, they have an edged shape, then they have a shoulders shape and then they kind of like dissolve a little bit. So not a lot of detail then? In the sense of detail wise, they have no features, they've got no eyes. So more light and color without those kinds of details and features. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, that's why.

16:11 Some people say that when they come out of the body and they're visited by the first people, some people describe like they saw their grandparents or something like that. Personally, I didn't see any human reflections at all. It was more about souls and light beings. That's what I saw. But at 14, I didn't have any loved ones that's been passed away, what do you mean? So all my family that I knew were still around. Okay, so they were coming towards you, keep going.

16:52 Yeah, so they were coming towards me. And so it was like a distance and I could feel them in the work coming towards me. It didn't take too long, we came quite close quite quickly. And when we get to a certain point, that's when we started to have a small dialogue with each other. And they're saying to me, you want to come away from this area, and it's like an agreement. But I knew that, I felt that I knew them and they knew me. There was a lot of love, a lot of unconditional love going off straight away, some recognition of each other. So it was like, you know, as if it was like a long lost path to Marinelleboro in some way.

17:34 So not a connection, not a love going off there. But what kind of communication was there? It was done telepathically. It wasn't done by mouth and we don't have any mouth. And so it was done telepathically. And as in that I was thinking they could see it straight away and vice versa, we could communicate anybody by thoughts. Tell us about that communication now. What was the, I don't know if conversation is the right word for a telepathic communication but what was going back and forth and meanings between your minds and theirs? It wasn't a good question.

18:16 It wasn't a feeling of entered more than it was to say that I know you, you know me, we are connected to each other. I think that was that kind of a connection going off. But it was a short conversation of you want to go away from here. And my initial thoughts were thinking like, well, I'm not horrified by what I'm seeing down there. It's not scaring me in any way. But there was an invite to me to go to the next real home. So my date bike, again, my curious self now is thinking, okay, yeah, I'll go with you. So I'm feeling like I felt safe to obviously then go with them as well.

18:57 It didn't feel like an unsafe feeling. So that's something I will say. We then soon as I immediately said, yeah, let's go away. There we are. But then just by zoom, we might go through like a big like films like a portal or a safe past. Don't really be washed into the next realm really. And so that's where I go into the next place, which is home, really. All right, tell us about home. Okay, so I'll to describe in English language, again, lots of these things are very hard to describe in the start, and they're related to Earth at all. I personally didn't see anything like buildings, again, because I've got no arms, got no legs, no facial features.

19:42 So I've got no need to walk on all ground and hold things. You don't need to do anything like that. So the ground area I would suggest is more like, you know, like a muffin mist or a what's it called when the rock stars are playing, you can see like a like a fog machine going back, fog machine going off. Yeah, it's like a book machine going on. So it's like that kind of a base, I guess. That's the nearest I would say to it. And again, maybe it's got a little bit more color to it than just that as well. The whole place felt like love as well. That's the hardest thing to describe to you as well.

20:22 They felt like a whole place of love. I mean, I was going from a place of love, the soul as a metal soul, I was coming from a place of love. The whole everything was love. It was hard to describe. It really is the last I think, it really is odd to pinpoint. But so the ground, if we say the ground is especially, again, bottom part, then the top part is where you can actually fly as well. So I could basically manifest myself to either be on the ground, again, with my intention. I was intending to be with my guides and to follow them. So I didn't fly off or anything like that.

21:03 But I saw flying going off because I saw lots of souls playing some kind of game. And I felt like this game was like a chase or a ball type game. Well, the ball was, in my opinion, it was like a soul that could also manifest itself in two different shapes. I don't think we're just, we're not a solid anymore. Manifest ourselves differently. So this ball was then changing maybe then to another soul. Maybe the soul then wants to like, hey, okay, well, I'm not going to be the ball now. I'm going to be part of this game instead. Maybe they could just take it in turns. I don't know. I'm just guessing.

21:45 So yes, it could be in the air, you can be on the ground. And I'm on the ground with my guides and I'm moving from, it falls from right to left. So that's where now I'm heading, I'm heading left. And as I'm heading left, I can then see this being on the ground area type thing, where it's basically had a trauma. So basically my guides tell me, please do not interrupt this being. This being has some difficulties. It's now having, reenergizing itself. And so basically it's getting like colors sparking off it as well.

22:28 It's lots of colors going off it as well. And it looked like it was in like some kind of a cocoon. It looked like it's built itself in the shape of a bubble wrap or a cocoon or something like that. And so it was protected. But I think it did it itself. Like I said, it manifests itself in different ways. I think it manifested like a bubble wrap type thing. Something a 14 year old could relate to a little bit. Yeah, maybe, maybe. But when it gets to the soul point, I don't feel like I'm a 14 year old anymore in this realm. It felt like again, I was more of an inquisitive character who's full of love and yeah, and an old reflection as well.

23:14 It felt like when I came back in years later realizing it wasn't a near-death experience, it was a freedom of that body. It was nice to have nobody for a manager. It felt like it was nice to have that body, nobody really. So let me ask a question about that. You had had pain most of your life, right? You had lived in pain. Yes. And did you realize the fact that that was gone? I assume it was gone. Yes. I think the soul, when I came out of my body, like I said, I had no wish to dive in there. And I felt like the soul had a bit of freedom going on. I felt free as a soul.

23:54 I felt free. And I felt like maybe that was the part of being in a part of it for the body. I think it was like the curious nature. It felt like a baby would have. The old, old life brand new. It felt brand new to me to some extent, really. Okay. But yeah, definitely without a body, without that pain and the soul was trying to find that feeling I'm being honest with you. Yes. Was there some kind of event that happened next or something you remember next in the process? Yeah. So obviously I'm avoiding contacting this bubble raft soul.

24:37 And so I'm leaving that soul alone. Then we're still then moving on a little bit past that. And then I'm going to an area which is like a well. I describe it like a well. And I've heard other people talk about the life review. And some people say that it looks like a TV or some people said it looks like a big movie screen. And it can be all those kinds of things. It is a frame of reference. My frame of reference is a well. So as I'm looking at this well, it feels like this well then is there in front of me. But then as I'm looking at it, it dives right into my vision. So I am actually the well and myself are like emerged together.

25:22 So the well is like part of me now. And now I can be able to see everything. Without this well, I literally feel that my powers of seeing past, present and future was not possible as a soul. I can only do it at this point of its life review. When I'm having this well on me, I saw past. So the past was about school and again in primary school and secondary school, I was bullied a lot. So I could see from that perspective, the reasons why I also for one moment in time became a bully as well because especially in primary school, I was very, very young.

26:10 I was very confused. Why am I getting bullied? All that kind of stuff. So I decided at that point, I'm going to become a bully. So maybe it was a bit of a power control or just to really feel like, okay, enough of this pain. I'm going to give some pain back. So I bullied for a short period. So I found myself as horrible. I know and that's what this is why I do. I'm not happy about what I did. But anyway, so I found younger targets that I could bully. And so I found those and those easy targets. So I bullied them for a short period. And so during the life of you, I could see their pain.

26:53 I could see, oh, why is he doing that to me? That is not nice. But you know, the pain that does get it in from that as well, the anger, the pain, the frustration, I could feel it all from their point of view. Now it's not like a chastise thing. It's not like a teacher to a bully. You shouldn't have done that. You know, start back and over telling off is more of an understanding of like, was that a good idea? No, it was, you know, it's almost like communication. Say, really, that was the best thing to do. So it's like a learning event rather than a telling off event. So you were able to learn without feeling, did you feel guilt and shame or just learning?

27:35 Yeah, it's the pain of knowing that I'm hurting others from doing what I did. So it's made me aware that if I'm hurting you, I'm just only hurting myself really. So it's that instinct. And also, it wasn't more of a guilt feelings and that guilt in the human sense is, does that exist in that realm? If that makes sense to you. Yeah, that's interesting. And I've heard that from other people too, that they saw things that in this life they would say, well, I'm sure I'm not proud that I did that, but they didn't feel guilt. So I'm sort of led to believe that guilt is a feeling that we have here on earth in this body.

28:21 I think it's something, I think guilt is something that is taught to people and, you know, it manifests by, it manifests by a parent or a teacher would do, because obviously they've learnt it as well. So we basically manifest and we basically become our parents. So I could literally do the same as well, which is that. We just come from our own family, we're my parents. So I've learned things from my parents and vice versa. So in this life review, did you see anything previous to that or anything in the future?

29:02 Okay. I saw past past as well. Okay. So we, the past before the child, the primary school stuff, I saw previous deaths as well, which is, it's all quite linear by the way, if that's the right word for it. But basically I'm able to see everything and everything in one go. I'm like a download of a computer in this moment. So everything was happening to me all at once, but I could take it. My brain, I don't have a brain, I could absorb it. So, but if I was to use my human side of things, I will go then from, yeah, I saw previous deaths.

29:44 The previous deaths were like, almost like a whole lot of cards falling over and I could literally, if I wanted to, maybe take a card and examine it a little bit longer. But I didn't, I think maybe I couldn't have done, but I didn't do that. I saw one particular death and it not horrified me as a 14 year old now, but if you can like, that was gross. It was really horrible. It was spikes. I could literally see my body and then literally a wooden spike coming out of my chest and that's where I'm dying. And on this wooden spike, I'm thinking like, that was gross. That was horrible. And so that was one thing I remember quite clearly on that death.

30:26 There were sort of the ones as well, but I can't recall every single one that I saw. But there's ones that I remember seeing one where I was having a fight in a like a village type thing and one person was angry about something and we had a bit of a fight and then I'm dying because he basically killed me in this fight. So I can see that one as well. That was, you know, the more horrific ones I remember. So I saw that and then I saw them present. I could see my parents in the kitchen. I could see my parents' thoughts as well. And some people asked the questions, okay, so why are your parents in the kitchen?

31:10 Why not in our school with you? Just because at 14, I was very, very mature and I would most likely have said to my parents, I'll give you a call. Once I'm out of the operation in the ward and I'm awake, then I'll give you a call. That would be my process at that time. So if people are wondering why my parents are in the kitchen, that's why I'm explaining it. So my parents' thoughts are, wonder how Paul's doing? Will make some nice food for him. And when we go over to him, you'll enjoy these chocolates and things like that and all that kind of thing. So they was thinking that about me.

31:53 Then I can go into the future as well. I had 14 years of age. I didn't realize it was any of that experience, first of all. But then also I didn't understand the reasons why I've been showing ahead of me. I saw Russia. My wife is a Russian lady, but I didn't understand the whole process why I'm flying over Russia. I could see a ceremony and again, I didn't know what it was exactly. But on hindsight, or whatever it's called, I'm actually having my wedding day in Russia. And like a big deja vu goes off thinking like, that was the moment that I saw my Russia.

32:36 I'm literally in this room waiting for Julia to arrive. And that was decided, same feelings, nervous, I felt nervous, excited, loving, all these kind of things. But just wondering what's happening, what's going on? And I was in Russia at that moment thinking, yeah, that's what I saw. It's my native experience. So it was that moment there. I saw myself driving. I thought, as a fortunate old man, I would rather drive. Having spymethod, I thought I never drive. And so that was the thing I saw, excited and happy. And I passed the driving test when I was 17. And I think it was that moment there.

33:18 I saw things like future death, where it looks like I'm in Russia, because I'm actually coming out of my body. I'm actually a very old person on a bed in a flat. And I could see one lady next to me and another lady on the other side of the bed. And my wife and my daughter, I'm thinking now on reflection, they could be my wife, it could be my daughter. And I'm very old. And basically, I could see just naturally passing away from age and just old really, yeah. And I'd actually see my body coming out and I'm having like a hidden experience or life sort of coming out of my body.

34:03 And I can then see Russia or some kind of landscape that looks like a Russia. So yeah, that's one thing. And maybe I will probably pass away in years to come in Russia. Okay. Was there much more before you came back to your body? There was some kind of an education going off as well. And I don't get it at all, because the human form, my brain, especially my IQ level, you can't absorb it all. But what I do remember was things like the spark of life. I can remember seeing birth happening. So the sperm hits in the egg, the spark of life. And then I see that baby again born dead of one birth growing in the livers to me and then becoming born.

34:53 Maybe it was myself as well, part of my own development and growth. Then I saw things like burgers and fast food and the arteries clocking go and all that kind of thing. So I'm thinking, okay, I want to be interested in fast food on that basis. So I saw that kind of thing going on. I saw things like, I don't remember, there was like a big kind of education that went off. I saw a tree. Something happened with the tree, I didn't know what this tree was about, but I saw energy going in, energy going out.

35:33 And it looked like it's like a holographic tree. I'll describe it exactly, but it looked holographic. So everything made look holographic on that side of things. So I saw this massive tree that had this energy out going out. And I also saw dogs and cats for some reason. I don't know why. I remember seeing cats purring. When the cats purr, I could see then from my soul, I could see shapes, colors going off and the owners there, the cats like purring and I could see this color, the shapes going from its neck. And it looked like it's like healing or showing love or both.

36:17 So I could see that. And I could see then dogs being made because they want to protect, want to show unconditional love and almost like teaching, hey guys, this is how you do it. And it felt like dogs are there just to show you, yeah, you need a lot of humans, you need a lot of them and they got a long way to you. So that's what I felt like from the pets and that side of things. That was the other kind of download I felt like I had. So interesting. So at some point, was there a telepathic conversation with these three beings about, okay, Paul, you're going to stay or you're going to go back?

36:59 Yes. So whilst the light review was done, then it was like I was then next into this realm, not realm, but area of this home where the three beings are still with me and the lights, I seen everyone's, well, not everyone, but a lot of people talk about seeing the light and I did start to see a light, but it asked me the question, Paul, that would be nice on Paul, would you like to stay here or would you like to go back to being Paul down there? At that moment, I felt naturally that if I was to stay here, I knew a soul that I'm going to go back and do it all again. And I knew I was going to be Paul again in a real wild time.

37:43 I felt like I was going to go back to being starting as a baby again, going back to school, going back to being bullied, going back to have all operations. I thought, no, my soul naturally said, no, I've come this far, let's keep going. So my soul decided to do that. And as I'm saying all these thoughts and also saying I'm young and the guides are saying to me, yes, you're young, almost like agreement with each other and they're saying, okay, so you want to go back? Yes, I want to go back. As I'm agreeing then to go back, then that's it. I can't remember, but I just wake up in the after the operation, I'm waking up with this device on my leg and I'm actually basically full of beans.

38:34 I'm actually really like, I've had a lot of energy come to me somehow. I don't know why. Maybe it was a driving shock that gave me or it was just like the feeling of the love was still in me from this event. I don't know, but I was full of energy. And did you talk to the doctor about what happened? Yeah. But again, I'm 14, it was 1986, so near-death experiences wasn't around as far as I was aware. 1986 maybe it happened, but it wasn't documented. I've never heard of them. I was a 14 year old lad.

39:16 I personally thought it was like a very, very vivid or very, very surreal dream. I thought that's what I thought it was. So I thought, okay, I'll tell my parents about it and my parents were like, yeah, he's a bit of a nutter, this last hero, he's a bit crazy. So I thought, okay, well, let's go, I didn't go back on staff really until a lot later. But my parents then was visited with Mr. Newton. Mr. Newton came around to say hi and see how I was doing after the operation. And he had to tell my parents, unfortunately, Paul did every reaction to this muscle accident.

40:00 And we've put a big breast sticker on my folder and we had to resist the staining. So that was me saying, okay, so yeah, I obviously did die and I have to be brought back to life again. At 14, I can't imagine trying to process that. You mentioned that at first you thought it was just a dream. How do you know that it wasn't? How do you know it was more than just that? Yeah, I mean, dreams don't stay with me. I don't remember any dreams. I don't dream. When I do dream, I can remember certain things. It's always like surreal stuff. But this one stayed with me.

40:41 Even now, if I close my eyes and try to remember how it looked and things like that, I can still see it. And the life review and all that stuff, I can still remember it quite clearly. I just really shy. I remember the whole download of, which my brain could take the whole download of all that education, because there's more to it than that. There was definitely more of that. In comparison to a dream, it was more vivid. It was more real than a dream was. And the communication, the lessons, seeing my past, my present, my future, actually seeing things like what's happened now. I mean, just to go a little bit further on the things that happened in the future.

41:26 I used to live alone. When I got to my 30s, I started to drink a bit too much alcohol. I was a bit low, depressed. I'm just going to stay single. And so I was not happy. So I remember saying, I'm sitting on the sofa and I've got a little drink in my hand and thinking of something stupid. And I'll be honest with you, Eric, it was one of my darkest times. I thought, okay, there's like a stairs in the room, in the house. It's far like an open-hand stairs. So I could have got a Thai meal and just ended it.

42:11 Okay. So I was in, I was depressed, all that happy. And another moment of that thought process, there was also in my future that I could see, was this feeling of life. I could see someone left hanging themselves in the same scenario, stairs. I was clapping. So this thought process, this voice came to me saying, Paul, you remember the Nidhav experience? Yes. You remember what happened. You want to do this? You sure you want to go back again? You want to do it all again? No, I don't want me to go back again. We'll keep going. Just change and keep going. So I knew instantly, I finished my life now, I want to go back to school again, operations.

43:01 And so I thought, okay. From that moment, then my alcohol intake started to reduce. And then not long after that, I met up with Julia and got married. Happy ending. Yeah, very much so. And yeah, it feels like we've got paths. And if we got, I mean, I could have chosen the path of alcohol and doing that something stupid. Maybe I did it in my previous life. Maybe I've had a few bad egos already. Maybe before and alteration number five has had a, you know, and maybe my guides said, okay, let's do a native experience this time. Let's make sure you understood.

43:41 Don't do that again. You know, so maybe that's why I have it. That's an interesting thought. I don't know the answer to that. Do you feel like you came back with any specific message, any specific, you know, here's the biggest takeaway from this? The biggest takeaway from my end of it is that there was three key words that came through for me and it was the three words I'll always say to people that it's all about love. It's all about the learning and it's all about the connection. So love is basically, obviously love each other and no matter what and really is to get rid of our labels. And that's what, that's why I do a thing called Yellow Planet.

44:25 It's a channel on YouTube and it shoots and all that kind of thing. But we do interviews as well. You can do an interview with yourself, the online ones too Eric as well, just to give you that if you wanted to do that, that'll help you. And we interview guests about their experiences and their consciousness and all that kind of thing. So yeah, love is about really to love each other, throw away the labels and just connect with each other. Learning is about we're going to learn from each other. And if we learn from our mistakes and then just come back to people, that's about the learning and then unity and connection is really about again, throw away the labels and let's get together rather than dividing each other.

45:11 I like it. That's a nice message. One of the things that concerns me often when I, especially when I'm talking to people that had an NDE back in the era that you did, 70s, 80s, that kind of thing, it was very misunderstood. People thought you were crazy. Do you feel like it's gotten a lot better now? It's more understood, more accepted that this is a real thing. Yeah, I think so. And I generally feel that people are having near-death experiences and I've been nudged. I don't like talking about it. I know it sounds horrible to say, I don't like talking about this stuff Eric. I really don't. I mean, I'm not.

45:51 My one thing is that I like to listen. I don't like to talk. It's just one of those things about me. But something has pushed me and it says, boy, you need to figure your story out. The reason why I think is I think all of us have to do these things. Not for money, not for gain, it's to change the world. And if people are going to watch and listen to these interviews, then people might think, actually, yeah, let's make a change. So if someone hears my story and thinking like, yeah, the love, learning, connection, fantastic. If it's helped them a little bit on that way, then amazing. We can change the world. We just need to make this world a lot more better because this world is, I don't want to go too political, but it is corrupt.

46:36 And I think we really want to, you know, become better than this. You know, we don't need to fight. We don't need to do war. You're absolutely right on all of that. On the love part, the love that you felt there, was it similar to the love you feel here? Unconditional love. I mean, with my family and friends, yeah, it's not conditional. It isn't conditional. You know, we love each other unconditionally. In that realm, it's unconditional. But in certain aspects in the world, yeah, it's conditional love. I don't need love here. And that's not a healthy love. That's not the right way to go. But unconditional love, you know, no matter what you do, I still love you.

47:19 And that's the way it is there. That's what you felt there is what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even if I caused the pain to the children that I bullied in school, they still love me. I mean, it was a stupid maneuver. It was not the best thing to say. I realized that. I heard you. I heard it from myself. Another thing that maybe you can explain to me, a lot of the people that I interview, they talk about feeling one with everybody, not only with God, but with all the people, all the beings. And you're using the word connection. What did you learn there that makes connection make have a deeper meaning here?

48:00 Yeah, I think we are all tapping into the one consciousness. Some people try to investigate where is consciousness, what is consciousness, how do we call it, conscious. And I do believe it's some kind of a Wi-Fi thing. We can't see it, but I feel that we are not necessarily born with consciousness. We are tapping into like a Wi-Fi around maybe the earth and we become conscious that way. So we're basically sharing the one consciousness. Again, if I heard you, I'm writing myself, so we are basically one of the same.

48:42 So no matter, you could be black, you could be male, female, it doesn't matter. We're basically a soul being in a body, having a human experience. That's all we are. Having a human experience, that's a great way to put it. So Paul, you've lived in a body your whole life that's had pain and not, I hate to use the word normal, but not, I don't even want to say not as good as other people's bodies. That just sounds terrible because it's your body and it's yours and it's great. But there have been some disadvantages with it too and some pain that's come with it.

49:23 Do you feel like there was a point before you came here that you chose this body? You just mentioned about having a human experience here. Relate those two things. Okay, yeah. I do feel that I chose this body and I feel like I've had many different types of avatars in my life. I feel like maybe I've had the soul of this type, person dying, all of this wouldn't spike, it looked like I was in Greek, Roman time. It looked like maybe I was a gladiator or something. I don't know what it was really, but I feel like I've had many different types of lives.

50:04 I think I've been male, I've been female. I think I've been basically choosing all types of characters. I feel like I'm an old soul now, more older, through many experiences. I feel like I needed to get to have this particular life and I think I chose this body. I don't want to upset people who have got disabilities thinking, well, I didn't ask to be here and all this kind of thing. I don't want them to feel that way. Hopefully they don't feel that way. But I feel like I chose to be here and I chose to be having this kind of body experience.

50:44 What I feel like I've learned from this body experience, I feel like I've learned a lot about most, I've learned a lot about patience and a lot about determination. So that's where I feel like I've learned a lot more about in this particular match, so to say. So it was worth it. Worth it, definitely. What do you see long-term? I mean, you actually saw in this life review a head of an old person passing away in Russia. What do you think happens beyond that? Yeah, I feel like this world is still going to be here. I don't think it's going to blow up.

51:24 I mean, there's lots of news saying about the Kyrgyz war, this and that. I think not. I feel like, you know, these, I think sometimes our friends up there, you have the bows and panings, I think if they see the boys with the toys with these big fire guns and bullets and stuff like this, then they will stop this. They'll never stop that in my opinion. And anyway, I think that in the future that I will, yeah, step in and grow old and I will be with my wife, I'll work with my daughter and yeah, it'll be in Russia or some kind of Russian country, maybe like a, I don't know, Bulgaria or something like that.

52:09 I don't know, but it'll look like a Russia. But my future, I feel like I'm here to keep spreading these words. I will continue to do these interviews just to help people. And I hope that we will then push the boundaries a little bit more of why we're here, what we're here to do and to get people more loving with each other. Because if we all became like a domino effect for each other, you know, I push one domino, a bit more towards them like, yeah, okay, what was the answer? Great. That's what it's all about. So I'll just push one more domino of the like that. And if people want to find more of your content, where do they go online?

52:50 Okay. So I've got a channel that is called Unite, it's not United, it's United Planet, but someone else took that title, out there, they. So I chose Unite Planet instead, which it feels like it's more like a current word, Unite Planet type thing. So it's on YouTube and it's also on BitChute, can be on there. Also on Facebook, we have a group page on there. Again, it's still called Unite Planet. Basically it's like a circle, like a planet shape. It's got orange, blue, purple kind of colors going off.

53:34 So it's like, really nice colors, hopefully. And yeah, so that's what it's about. So we're on there. Another thing I do is I've written a book and it's called Walk Oblived, Feet on the Ground. It's basically on Amazon, I think it's on Kindle as well. So if people want to read my book, you're welcome to. What it was, it was in my forties, I decided to write my story, really. So it includes my native experience, it includes my issues with Spadgiffa, but also a lot of humor.

54:15 I do have a good humor and so I tried to use a lot of email in my book and people have said to me, they read the book and told me how much they've enjoyed it, how much it's helped them. I've had people reviewing my book and writing it in Amazon saying how much they've helped as well. So for that I feel like I've done something good that way as well. So you can contact me on Facebook. I think it's Paul Northridge, author, so you can contact me that way as well. We'll put some links in the show notes to all this and I'll bet your book is fun, I haven't read it yet. Last question, on a scale of one to 10, how afraid of death are you? Zero.

54:56 I'm not afraid at all, I'm afraid. And it's nothing good. I mean, when I came out of my body, I was in pain a little bit, not to the point where, oh gosh, I'm about to die. And I felt like as soon as I got to the point of death, then I'm literally unplugged straight away. So it's not a painful maneuver, if you understand me. You're basically putting yourself straight away as soon as you're about to die, you're unplugged straight away and then you're then seen black. That's the worst thing I remember. So death is not really, and it's not the end.

55:37 You keep coming back and you will keep coming back. Let me go back to be a male, a female, a black person, white person, you'll have all these more experiences ahead of yourselves. And people ask me the question, so why keep coming back here? And it's a horrible place to visit. And well, I hope that maybe my story's helped a little bit. I think your story has. I think there's one person out there, that's all that matters, if there's one person out there that this helps and I think it has. Okay, thank you. Thank you very much. All right. Anyway, thanks for being with us today. Appreciate it. I appreciate it. Thanks, Eric. Thanks for your time today. I really appreciate it. Thank you. If you have had a round trip death experience, we would love to hear about it.

56:21 Send an email to eric at roundtripdeath.com. And lastly, if you have found this program uplifting, if it's given you just a little more hope in the future, share it with a friend, hit that follow button and take a few seconds to write us a review. Until next time, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the next.