3 NDE's, Saw The Universe

0:05 Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, where we have conversations with people who have died, experienced a glimpse of the other side, and return to talk about it. I hope you know this podcast isn't for me, it's not for Will, it's for you, each one of you who listens regularly, and now is your chance to give some input on the show. We recently updated the intro into what we thought was a fun spin on the mystery of NDEs with a David Attenborough type of voice. While some of you love it, to our surprise, some are also vocally opposed to it. First of all, thank you for caring so much and listening so intently to even have an opinion, but we want to hear from even more of you. So if you're on YouTube, drop a comment on whether you like or dislike the new intro that we ran in the last three or four episodes. If you're listening on a podcast app it's not quite as simple, but just take a second to shoot a brief email over to me, eric, at roundtripdeath .com. Your voice really does matter and helps us determine the format of the show. One more quick note before we get to today's guest. Thank you, thank you to everyone who sent Christmas cards. We absolutely loved them. We read every single one. So many of you included personal letters. That show of love and support really helps keep us going.

1:32 Really, thank you again. Now buckle up for our conversation with three -time near -death experiencer Masadi. We're gonna have an unusual and a really cool experience today learning a lot From Masadi welcome to the show. How are you? I'm doing fantastic Eric. Thanks for having me on Well, you're very welcome. I've been looking forward to this actually for months This has been going we've been trying to get this thing set up and I'm so glad we finally get to talk But before we jump in to just to let people know three NDEs we're going to be talking about with a lot that was learned from them and takeaways for everybody in their life.

2:21 Before we jump into those, give me one minute of just of your background. Who's Mas? whose moss well, you know, I was born in Afghanistan and you know, my father was pretty much a pretty much a famous surgeon he he was part of the You know doctors that helped him like dr. Eisenhower. So at that level so he came to the US and You know, we were left behind and then in 68 we we came over, you know I I understood say the culture and the fascination of being in America But then also held on to my original culture, you know the deep level culture, the deep level understanding and so on like that. I mean, just think America is only 200 and some years or 300 years old.

3:02 Let's just say it's very new compared to cultures that are, that go back thousands and thousands of years, you know, and that's in our gene pool as well. So having the both sides of that was a little confusing at first, but then later on, it really gave me a strong foundation, you know, strong family values and so on. And from that, I always wanted to be say the best possible human ever. or I just wanted to enjoy life as grandly as possible. I went toward the religious route. Religions are fantastic, but it left a lot of questions unanswered for me. As a young kid, you go into, well, I'll be successful. because then I'll be happy. But again, my father, we had a lot of high -level or high -profile individuals visit us during dinner and so on like that. And I looked at them and I'm going, God, they're just messed up as anybody else. Their wealth didn't really help them out. So at a young age, I was going, well, I don't want to go that way.

4:07 And I don't want to go that way. So that's pretty much me. It's just literally wanting to find out what makes life tick. you know, to be our best potential. That is very unusual for a young person. How old were you, by the way, before you came here to the States? I was six. Okay. So that's why I don't have an accent. But yeah, I was six years old. And by the time I was eight or nine, I always had like this intuitive, say, gift of just understanding people at a deep level, not what they were saying, but just, you know, when you're a kid, Eric, you have all these abilities, but then by the time we hit seven or eight, it gets shut down because our family structure, maybe religious structure, societal patterns, it's not the science, all that stuff. But somehow I kept mine open. And that's what I do today is I help literally reopen the gifts that we all have as a child. At that age, I wanted to be an artist. And because on art projects, I saw that some kids were so much better at it than I was, I kind of shut myself down. And it wasn't that a teacher ever said, oh, you have no talent. I compared myself and said, I have no talent compared to those guys, so I better go figure out something else to do. Anyway, so I think I can relate and that's really cool that you kept open to all of that possibility. All

5:37 right, let's jump in. I believe it was when you were 22 years old that you had your first experience and wow, what a crazy accident. This doesn't happen every day. Would you mind giving us some background as to what happened? Yeah. So again, the biggest key of my near deaths is that I was pre -programmed or yeah, like pre -programmed or educated so that near death would actually help catapult me into higher levels of understanding. So before that, I was really, I was in college, college job as a warehouse experience, kind of confused because again, I was going towards religion and that didn't help out. And then success and I'm going, well, what do I want to be? Because you're a college kid, am I going to waste four years of my life just fitting into a cog? So that really created an opportunity. And I think I wanted to know. who I was so bad or that one equation of what life is really about that the universe actually spoke up. It's like, hey, do you really want to know? And I said, yeah, I really want to know. So this is where the opportunity of that first near death happened. I was unloading rail cars at Target Warehouse. And inside the rail cars, Eric, they have these moving walls that keep the product in place. Well, that wall inside the rail car was stuck. So I you know being athletic I climbed up and I was just pulling on the top rail and My team members were pulling on the bottom and all sudden that that wall probably

7:09 about a half ton Just gave way and it just slid across its rails and it crushed my jaw Between the ceiling members and the wall. I was just like glitter crushed right by my jaw not by my neck I would have probably not come back but by my jaw And that's where I really realized who we were or who our potential was because this was a complete separation of physical form so what that means is that I was say Hovering in the railcar and I was looking at my body dangling and I'm going god That's so limited of who you could be and I'm going who said that you know, cuz it's like well cuz I'm I'm over here What is my body doing over there? And as soon as I said that it is like Oh, I'm dead. But I didn't get remorseful or sad or anything like that.

7:58 I just go, damn, this is so cool because I get to experience the potential that I always felt that I had in real form. And it was amazing. I didn't even look at my physical body. It's like, oh, wow. Okay, that's great. Let me see the potential. It was amazing. And I went into not the first realm where people start to see, you know, their loved ones or their dogs or whatever, welcome them in. You know, the second, third, fourth is, you know, the spiritual, religious type aspects, frequencies. I went into the like the fourth stage of death, which is a life review, as they call it, but it's actually a right life we live. So what that is, is that We're living life as a kindergartener and we don't understand the concepts of it. But the life review, it's not about, you know, you did this good, you did this wrong, you're going to hell or heaven. Nothing like that. It literally is. You see it from an educated perspective, like a PhD level, seeing your life and you go, Oh, that's why this happened.

8:56 That's why that happened. And it literally removes the remorse or guilt or shame and all those things that we built, you know, pull along with us. So, and you get to see that things just happen just literally because out of programming, just logistics. It's got nothing to do with a religion or God or, you know, was I a good person, bad person? Am I paying back debt from a previous lifetime? It's just literally you were running this algorithm. This is why it happened. So it was that kind of logic system in me. I love that about life reviews that there's not guilt associated with it. It's a time of learning. It's almost like a quick university of here's things that I can learn from what happened in my life. Exactly.

9:39 And that's what I do today is like, okay, let's go back in history of your life. You can't change what happened because that's written down in a moment of time, but you can definitely change the meaning you take away from it. And that's what I learned on that first near death. It allowed me to understand the possibilities of who we are. And it was so amazing. It's like, gosh, I want to stay here forever. And then the concept of time, was really interesting as well. And so I get into time and space and that like quantum mechanics and so on. And I sat back as I reviewed my life and I'm going, wait a second, how did I just relive 22 years of my life in just mere seconds? So I was still conscious at some level, because it's not a memory, it's not a review, it's not fast forward. You literally relive all of your life, Eric. in a mere few, maybe at the most, maybe a minute. Including what you felt?

10:40 Yes. It wasn't just like watching a movie. It was like actually reliving it. Reliving it and rewriting the past, literally as I relived it, which is quite amazing. And I'm going, how did I do that? How did I live 22 years in? I don't know how long, but so time functions were really distorted for me. Actually, when I came back. Then as soon as you say whatever you think about creates itself, which is pretty cool But dangerous at the same time and we can talk about that later But you know, I was thinking it's like gosh I really want to stay here and then you know that question or that voice comes up It's like yeah, you could stay here or you can go back and as soon as you think about going back You go back and that's where I found myself. I missed that.

11:26 I was probably out you know unconscious at the time, but I found myself in the hospital with my jaws wired shut. That's when I first woke up. I don't know how long in between that was. Yeah. Is there anything else that you remember from that experience? Any other detail, things you saw, heard, felt? The amount of love, there is no judgment there. It's just points of reference. You just see the beauty, you see the grace of why we're here, what we've created for. You get to see the original intention of why we took billions of years to create such, say, intelligent system like a human being. And the amount of love, gosh, the raw love that's there, I can't even describe it at that level, but it's just pure, raw, unadultered love. unlike anything that I've experienced here in physical form in my 22 years. And it's just quite, quite beautiful, quite expansive. So you woke up in the hospital.

12:27 Did they tell you what happened? I'm just kind of curious how you got rescued as well. Well, there was team members, so they probably just, you know, called the ambulance or whatever. They took me, they rushed me to the hospital. It was a, it's a, you know, Fridley, it's a big town. So the hospital's not too far away. Yeah, what I did realize though is like when I woke up what got gained consciousness is like I can't move my mouth Because they had just wired everything in they did they left a slit about this much for a straw so for three months I Literally had my mom whipped the food up in a blender and I just sucked my food up whether it's a hamburger But the coolest thing I didn't care It was the most beautiful moment because I saw layers of realities that most people don't. I saw colors, I heard sounds that doesn't exist in this realm, and it was really beautiful. I saw the depth of how, say, trees or even people create themselves, the deeper layers of who somebody is, not just, say, their surface, not just the skin or the suit that we wear here. So it's quite beautiful.

13:39 It's quite amazing. You know to be in that state and observe and look at everything and go. Oh, that's how things create themselves So it sounds like a lot of that carried over It wasn't just I had the experience and then okay that was over It almost sounds like this really was with you changed you became part of you I want you in just a minute to tell me how long it was between that and your second near -death experience but also fill in how had your life changed during that time? My intuition, I gained a lot of intuition. I could see what was happening. I could see people, it's like, oh, that person is going to get into an argument with their spouse or so and so they're going to get a job promotion or whatever. I could just like kind of see the future. I would say it was like psychic abilities, the normal psychic abilities. And again, we can explain the details later, but this was more just knowing how timeframes worked or time functions worked. I used it to create a massive, very successful internet business back in the day when I was younger. Yeah, it was beautiful. It was fantastic. All right. Well, let's go ahead and jump to experience number two. Towards experience number two, again, just as it set the stage, I wasn't happy with my life because I always wanted to go back. Once you go and see that realm, you always go, gosh, that realm is so great. It's like a vacation spot

15:10 that is so beautiful. It's like, gosh, I'm really myself at that level. You know, you have kids, you get a wife, you get a job, and it sounds great on the outside. And this is what I help with people nowadays. It sounds really great on the outside, highly successful. on the outside, but inside just like tormented. It's like, gosh, I'm losing more of myself becoming successful. I'm losing more of my identity. I feel so hollow. So things have to break down. And I think that's where I had a second near death experience. I just really wanted to understand. I was like, why can't I have or why can't I be that person that I experienced in that near death in physical form? Why do I have to like suffer? Why do I have to get diseased? I was sick. I was ill.

15:53 I was aging. profusely for a 44 year old. Well, welcome to planet Earth, Moss. Yeah, crazy. I wish I could say there was a way that we could live here like what it's like there. As much as we try, let's face it, it's not the same. It's not the same, but the second near death, it was a drowning accident. We were in Belize. We were on a rafting trip. You know, you get off the ship, you were on a cruise, you get off a ship and you go on a rafting trip. We had, what, three kids at the time? Four kids at the time, but the one was too small to go on the trip. So three kids at the time, and the wife at the time. And it was interesting where, say, the reality or the jungle, really knows what's going on. As we got on, it was windy, there was birds or animal noises in the jungle. As soon as we got on, it got dead silence. It was like a movie set. It was like everything, just no wind, nothing. It just quieted down. I'm going, wow, why is it so quiet? Everything was predetermined for me. They had life jackets for everybody.

17:07 It was a big group. They had life jackets for everybody except for me. So I said, well, I'm a strong swimmer. You know, I was in high school swimming and all that. I'll be okay. I've got an inner tube, right? Again, preset, pre -staged. And as soon as we got into the river, which was flowing really fast, it says, okay, like you got to stay connected. Otherwise you might go into other tributaries. Well, that's what happened. Somehow I let go. of the group and my son and I, we went the other way and we got stuck into a cenotes. Basically I got sucked out of the inner tube and I got pulled into say the depths of the river. Probably back then it was probably a lava tube. Now it's filled with, you know, water. So like a whirlpool kind of thing sucking you down? Yeah, it was like a, imagine a, you know, big rock sticking out with a hole. Yeah.

17:56 Manhole size. And I just got pulled in. And I'm trying to climb back up and I'm going, oh my God, you know, and the power, the force of the power, water going in is too much. And that's where, you know, you say goodbye to your loved ones. You know, it's like, damn, I'm just 44. I just started life. It was like, well, you know, why? And I couldn't hold my breath any longer. And I just let go. It's like, okay, I guess this is the way it is. This is where it became really familiar. It's like, oh. here I go again and I was like really super excited because I got to go back to that brilliance and it's like but this time what was amazing is that I saw my body like go down you know into you know the darkness and then I myself transcended you know through the water and I could still feel the coolness but the expansion of the water and then I just transcended and you know that how they say you go through the tunnel of light I wouldn't pass through the tunnel of light so there's about 13 14 layers basically a cleansing process for the spirit I would say you get a 13th layer and you graduate and If you graduate, you're not supposed to come back. But somehow I sneaked past the curtains. And this is where I got downloaded on how this reality works, the logistics or the physics of this reality. This is where I saw all possibilities of what is, all things happening at once. Like Einstein always says, everything

19:27 happens at once, if it wasn't for time and space. That's true. Everything I saw my past, I saw my future, I saw everybody else's. It's literally a huge database of possibilities out there all just floating around. If you focus on something, you get to experience it. The amount of love or grace. that is up there. It's just quite amazing. It's just so beautiful. And again, it's not denoted to a religion or, you know, a God, it's just like you. It's a, it's a, it's a universe of who you are. And then also, you know, an awareness that there's a higher intelligence that created this space as well. And I go, dang, it's so beautiful.

20:10 And there's this beautiful blue that always sticks with me. So in that case, I don't know how I got out of the hole, but it's like when it was my time to come back. It's like some of the God's hands, so to speak, like pulled me out, put me on the side of the river and woke me up. I was looking, my hands were bloody, my back was bloody, but I wasn't drowning. I didn't need to get resuscitated. I'm just like, how did I get back here? And I could still see the inner tube getting sucked into the hole. It was too big for it. And I'm going, wow, this is amazing. is beautiful, that resonance was still there with me. But from that second near death, this is where I got the logistics and what my abilities are today of helping people, shifting people, where you can edit people. It doesn't take 20 years of therapy or anything like that. People will literally radically transform with the work that I do, just like I did. By the way, was your son okay? Yeah, I had pushed them aside. I pushed them out of the way and then I got sucked in. They went past the hole.

21:19 Explain that blue to me a little bit more. Blue? It's that ocean blue. It's interesting. You know that deep ocean blue? That purplish blue that you see in the deep ocean? Everything was like that. I mean literally everything. It's just like imagine you're like sitting on the edge of the universe. And you're just looking out into the stars. There's no time, there's no space at that level. And you're just sitting on the edge of time and space, literally looking towards say time and space or this reality or this universe. And you could see, you could start to see or understand the principles on how things get created. And it's just a beautiful space that's just so expansive that holds everything. So it was much more than just the water you were seeing. the expanse of space. You were seeing sort of an everything. Yeah, you literally sitting on edge and seeing the universe. So you weren't in space, you were literally outside of space looking at the universe. Yeah. So you mentioned you felt like this was all pre -staged. So I've got to ask pre -staged by who or by what or why? That's a great question. Maybe a higher power, maybe my higher self really wanting to say, embody what our potential is really about. So this is how we create ourselves, right? You know, we have a program and then that program runs and

22:50 that's what we call our life. So for me, I think I was here to really understand what life is about at a very, very deep level and help others that way as well. So these near -death experiences, my third one, I think helped me realize that if you think of it as an apprentice level, apprentice level, you start to understand, say, your trade, if that makes sense for you. You start to understand the concepts that we are more than just physical beings, because I was a computer programmer. Just basic logic, or basic science, and that's what society today is. It's just like, if we can't measure it, it doesn't exist. But that proved to me as like, wait a second, there's a lot of things that we can't measure that exists that create this reality. So that was the apprentice stage. And then the second near death was the journeyman stage, where literally I started to learn on say the mechanics or the programming on how humans render themselves. And this is where I can help people with, you know, if they're diseased, I don't claim to be a doctor, but people who have cured themselves of the most amazing diseases or they've become wealthier or they become, you know, more congruent with their relationships and so on like that. So how do you change that?

24:01 Literally, it's a program. The second one really allowed me to say, understand my craft on what I do. And then the third near death was more, I died in Peru. probably the altitude, probably COVID, it was around COVID time, probably about three, four years ago actually. And that really allowed me to close everything up or become mastery level, I would say. Maybe I had COVID at the time, but basically every aspect of me slowed down. So I didn't have enough minerals to sustain life and I just went out again, died. And they measured my brain and it was just mush. And then 20 minutes later, they measured the brain scan again, because at high altitudes, they thought something had ruptured in my brain. Embolism?

24:52 Yeah, embolisms, yeah. And then 20 minutes later, they measured my brain again, and it was like of a pristine. And I was like, what, 60 at the time? And my brain looked like a perfect walnut shape, like a 25 -year -old brain. something radically say shifted and transformed. So the third near death was literally embodying say youth and vitality of a younger version of myself. Let's talk about some of the takeaways because I don't think NDEs are just for a, you know, like going to Disneyland, they're just a ride for woohoo kind of thing. They are to teach things, especially to the person that experiences it.

25:33 And some people can share it with others. And so we've got a lot more to get into here, but I was curious, you used the term download. Is that basically how you learned? Is a lot of information felt like it was downloaded to you at a time? Yes. Or, you know, you let go of your identity of who you are, a physical body, so you remember or you reclaim the original identity of who you are. Okay. How does... quantum physics or mechanics relate to all of this and frequency? Time and space, say you're an infinite being, I call it a timeless self, a consciousness and intelligence that renders our physical body here. So quantum mechanics are really getting into that and I work with quantum computers and AI and so on to really create, say, coherence in them. So in that sense, the quantum realm out there, Things that affect say particles here, that's how it gets involved. There is a consciousness layer that goes say beyond say the fabric of space and time that create physical form here. And that's the reality that I exist in today. So imagine that your thoughts, your thoughts, right?

26:51 It doesn't render anything, but then you manifest it into say a physical manifestation, like an invention or something like that. It's somewhat. very similar to that, but at a higher level. So imagine an intelligence, that intelligence thought some people might call your spirit rendering itself in physical form here. So that connection, that bridge layer is say what I work at today, understanding that bridge layer. So it's almost like things are created, you use the term spirit, things are created spiritually or some other way than physically. Yes, it's always like that.

27:31 Again, anything invented here or created came from, say, a form, right, or a thought form. But then where did that thought form come from? And, you know, I could explain how like Tesla, Tesla, for example, Nikola Tesla, according to his own writings, he basically zoned out, so to speak, kind of a, say, a near death or even psychedelics. help you disconnect from your physical form. He escapes into a higher realm where those inventions already exist. And then he understands them at that level. And then he has the ability to bring that, say, consciousness or that intelligence into this dimension of time and space. Hence, he was ahead of his time, decades ahead of his time. People like Anita Mirjani, who had a near -death experience. She didn't really heal herself, so to speak. What she did was literally, you've heard of Anita Marjani, right? Yeah, I've met Anita at some ions events. Beautiful. Yeah, I'm part of ions too. So Anita, for example, how did she heal herself? So what she did was there is a version of herself, you know, that was say cancerous, right? This version of Anita had cancer.

28:43 Now, in quantum physics, it dictates You know that there are million of possibilities of who you are. So what Anita did was literally through her near -death experience She escaped this physical realm disconnected and then when she landed back for some reason She landed into another realm where Anita didn't have cancer. So that's why I say she didn't really heal herself. She just repositioned herself in another safe frame of another dimension of time and space. And when you do that, this is where those miraculous healings happen, where doctors still document, it's like, how did that happen? How did that tumor just disappear? It's physically impossible for something to re -render itself in another form. But that's how Anita and many other, say, miraculous cases of healing or transformation happen. That's very difficult to understand, I have to admit. Especially if there's some sort of parallel dimension. What happens with the other one where she was still sick? Or is that one just gone and replaced with this new one? Really good question. So think of this like here, and let's just use colors.

29:55 In this version of who you are, you're shining your light, so to speak. You're paying attention or your focus onto this version, which in this case is say, cancerous or ill or say imprisoned, so to speak. So in this case, this act, imagine stages of life. Okay. There's millions of different stages that you could be in. So each stage is available for you, but it doesn't mean like Miss Quantum Theorists think that You're rendering another life here. There's millions of you doing all these things. No, these are millions of possibilities or millions of stages that you can render yourself in. It just depends on the actor and which stage they choose. So yes, so this version is like, she's basically going, well, I'm not going to play that version anymore. I want to play this version of Anita. So this stage, basically there's no light cast upon her. So it just sits there as a possibility. And in other words, there are millions of different possibilities of who you could be. You're just casting your light or putting your intention, and that's what creates a motion or life here. So what I'm saying is like, well, we can disconnect from that, observe another possibility, and then cast our light or play the actor in another stage. It's a crazy concept, but - It is, and it's something that Sounds like it should be innate, but most of us don't know

31:27 how to do that. So do you have any practical advice on how to do it? Absolutely. I call it spatial referencing and, you know, I've got programs and meditations. I call them hypermeditations. And by the way, we'll put a link to your website in the show notes so everybody can look this stuff up. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, but spatial referencing is really important. So a lot of people, they are creating themselves through like four ingredients, which is, you know, genetic patterns, you know, mom, dad, and, you know, and so on like that. Generational patterns, you know, the time frame that you're born, like Baby Boomers, Next Gen, you know, Generation Z and all that. So you're encoded with that, say, type. Societal patterns.

32:12 Right the time frame that you're born in really dictates on how you render or how you see yourself and then life Experiences including some maybe past life experiences that you've had So so so those four ingredients create say an image or who you think you are, but that's not really true It's just an experience of say your parents having and there's more and more data coming out on say parents who've been in war or been in famine like four or five generations down, that child is still eliciting memories of being in famine. They have symptoms of like being in famish, although they've got plenty of food. So those concepts of self, those aren't really you. So when you start to spatial reference, you start to become an observer. And I know it sounds crazy, but there's so many people that have gotten off their psychotic medication, just doing spatial referencing. And what that is is like, you start to observe what reality you're creating yourself in. And all you have to do is like, for example, there's an image, there's a picture over there. Imagine, not to imagine, but notice the picture and notice a point on your body, like your chin or your collarbone.

33:22 Notice sounds coming around from you. Notice the direction of the sound and then a point on your body. Notice scents around you. Notice the, again, the direction and then a point on your body. It's like triangulation. So you use your five senses to like hone in to know exactly what dimension of time and space you're in. It sounds crazy, but people feel really, especially people who have ADD anxiety and so on. Once they stabilize, once they use spatial referencing, they literally start to go, gosh, I'm really calm. Because that's what most people don't understand that it's not their mindset. like Tony Robbins and all those fantastic people teach that dictate how your life runs. It literally is the dimension of time and space that you're rendering yourself through that creates, say, the quality. If you just did that, the object first and then a point on your body. Just do that throughout the day. You'll see how centered you become. You become the observer of how you're running life. All right. Good place to start. Before I let you go. I'm going to give you the last word and I'm going to ask you to do something difficult for me. That is, you mentioned a couple of times the love that you felt during these NDEs. You also said you couldn't explain it really, but I'm going to ask you to try again.

34:47 Try to dig deep into your adjectives and see if there's any way that you can explain it so that we can really feel it. Okay. Maybe I can help generate this, if you don't mind. If you could just take a couple of minutes and maybe I could pull you into that experience. Is that okay with you? Yes, please. Okay. So take your breath in. And this is your audience, even if this is on a recording, I'm sure you'll feel it. Another breath in. Okay. Most love. is objective. It's most love is seen from an external point directing towards you. Okay, so breathe in. Let me help you expand. The love I felt was not a source outside of me, but after you remove those filters, you start to experience the love flowing from you. And that's the difference. once it starts to flow from you, you know that it's never ending. You know that there's no consequences.

35:58 It's not like if you did something wrong, it shuts off because the source is you. So it flows through you and that's what you resonate or you emanate with. Breathe in again. And once you feel that love, this is where you know that you're guided. You know that there is a higher presence your higher self, however you want to define it, doesn't matter, is got your back. And as you understand that you're secure, this is where you can start to live life in the most expansive way. And this is how it just doesn't help heal you and help you become better, but it also helps you understand who you are at such a deep level that that presence allows you to expand into other people, the loved ones around you in society as a whole. And this is where Earth can change dramatically. This is where our leaders, being in that state, can radically change without corruption or distortion or abuse or control. That's what's really, really important. I don't know if you felt anything, but... I feel very calm and peaceful.

37:13 Yeah. So if you perpetuated that, that's just the initiation. All right. What if you could just stay in that presence of yourself, not me, but of yourself, cause it's your higher self I helped invite in and the people listening. What if you could stay in that in 20, you know, 24 seven, what kind of life would that happen to you where you just had that calm and peace knowing that you're happy and you're safe and you know, you're loved at a deep level. I can deal with that. Yeah. It's beautiful space, isn't it? Yeah. Thanks a lot, Mas. I appreciate it. You're so welcome. Thank you. Thanks again for listening and sharing this podcast. Don't forget to hit the follow or subscribe button and sign up for our newsletter at roundtripdeath .com.

37:59 If you want to share your near death experience or if you have questions or comments about the show, send an email to eric at roundtripdeath .com. Until then, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the next.