Dec. 6, 2022

#241 - Sharon Milliman's 4 Lightning Strikes and 4 NDE's

#241 - Sharon Milliman's 4 Lightning Strikes and 4 NDE's
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#241 - Sharon Milliman's 4 Lightning Strikes and 4 NDE's
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It's hard to believe someone could survive 4 lightning strikes and dying 4 times, but only once from lightning. Sharon meets Jesus and sees future world events.

This episode has so many twists and turns it's difficult to keep up! RoundTripDeath.com

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One of life's greatest questions is what happens to us after we die?

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Is death the end or a new beginning?

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Welcome to the Round Trip Death Podcast.

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In this show, we listen to firsthand accounts of people who have gone beyond the veil and

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return to talk about it.

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We are excited to have with us today Sharon Milliman from beautiful West Virginia.

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What does it look like outside your window today?

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It's sunny, but breezy and chilly.

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Really chilly.

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For whenever your people are listening to this, we're recording in November of 2022,

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so I imagine it's getting a little chilly there.

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But did you grow up in that area, Sharon?

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I've lived here for over 50 years.

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So from about 10 years old on, I have lived here.

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Okay.

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Well, people are going to get their money's worth out of this today because normally we

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feel very happy and grateful to be able to talk with someone who has had one near death

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experience.

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And Sharon, you've had a few more than that, plus some other experiences that people would

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call near death experiences with lightning.

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We'll get into that later on.

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But if you don't mind, let's start with when you were a girl about 13 years old, what happened

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to you?

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My parents took us, one of us to take swimming lessons.

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And so we went to the local Y and we were taking swimming lessons.

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And the instructor wanted me to dive head first into the 10 foot section of the pool.

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And I was terrified.

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I just had a horrible feeling about doing that.

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And I watched all the other kids do it.

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They went in, they came out, everybody was fine.

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And I was the last one.

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And I just couldn't do it.

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But there's just no way.

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And so my instructor said, you're either going to do this dive or I'm going to throw you

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in.

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And he threw me in.

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That's a teaching style I don't think they use nowadays.

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Thank God.

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Sink or swim, where that saying really came from.

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Okay, he picked you up and threw you in.

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Yes, he did.

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Okay.

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And then I'm sure he was your lifeguard and took care of you.

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No, he was not.

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What happened?

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Well, I sunk to the bottom after I struggled for quite a while or what seemed like quite

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a while.

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I'm sure it was only a minute or two, but it was time just seemed to stop and I was

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just struggling.

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I was able to once I got on to the bottom of the pool, I wasn't breathing anymore.

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But at that time, I was able to see this brilliant light and the brilliant light kept getting

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closer and closer and closer.

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And then I heard what sounded like a metal door slam.

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And it was the lifeguard that was taking care of the middle aged kids that was on the other

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side of the pool that had jumped in to get me.

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The man who threw me in, people were yelling at him, jump in, jump in and get her.

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And he was just frozen.

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He couldn't move.

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And so it was the other man had jumped in and got me and was doing CPR and got me back.

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So you saw a brilliant light.

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Did you leave your body or anything?

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I did.

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And I was kind of hovering above it, I guess.

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I could see everything that was happening all around the pool.

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I could hear everything everyone was saying, all the screaming, people saying the man's

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name who threw me in, said go in and get her.

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I saw my mom who was in the balcony above the pool where all the parents were sitting.

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And she was leaning over the banister and she was screaming and the look of horror on

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her face.

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And so while all of this stuff was going on, I'm on laying flat on the bottom of the pool.

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And that's when I saw the light.

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And at first it was real small and then it got bigger and bigger and bigger.

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And I don't know if I was going up to it or it was coming down to me, but it was within

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inches of touching me when I heard that metal door slam.

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And that's when the other lifeguard had jumped in and was pulling me out.

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So people have asked me before what the metal door was and I know that was my soul just

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slamming back into my body.

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So that was pretty much that experience.

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You know, at 13 years old, I think it would be difficult to process that.

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What happened later?

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I mean, first of all, did you have to go to the hospital or did you just come back and

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you were fine?

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And secondly, did you tell people about seeing this light in things?

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No, the lifeguard and the medics that were there took care of me and I was okay.

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I mean, I came back breathing all right.

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They watched me for a while to make sure I was okay.

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I didn't want to go to the hospital.

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I was not going to go.

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My mom, she was so terrified about what had happened that we never discussed it.

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I had no idea what happened.

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I didn't know how to talk about it, especially to my parents who were just terrified of what

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happened.

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All I know is that I didn't want to go back.

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To this day, I don't know how to swim.

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I won't get in water over my head.

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It was beautiful but traumatic at the same time.

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Oh, absolutely.

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PTSD.

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Big time.

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But that light, what was so wonderful about that light was that I felt such love coming

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through that light.

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I felt such warmth and compassion.

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I wasn't scared anymore.

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I felt it was like I wanted to go with that light.

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I wanted to be in that light.

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So there was no, I wasn't hurting anywhere.

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I was warm.

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I always thought people who drowned would be cold, but I wasn't cold.

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I was warm and cozy in that light.

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Do you remember feeling anything else?

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Well, immense love like I'd never felt before.

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And I just wanted to be there.

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I wanted to go into that light.

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I was kind of a little miffed that the door slammed and I was back in my body again.

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And they were doing the resuscitation that was quite painful.

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You know, it wasn't fun.

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I just wanted to be back in that light, but I didn't know what it was.

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I had no idea.

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And difficult to process, I imagine.

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Well now let's talk about lightning because you have an unusual relationship with lightning.

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Like nobody I have heard before.

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Tell me about the first time you got struck by lightning.

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Okay, the first time, this was something that happened every other year until I was 43.

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So the first time I was on a computer, I lived in a big Victorian house.

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And so when it rained, I couldn't tell it was raining out.

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I couldn't hear it through the big curtains and stuff that was on the window.

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So I'm sitting in the back room and I'm on the computer.

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I had my hands on the keyboard and it was thunderstorming out.

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And there was, we had the old fashioned windows that had the weights in them.

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So there was a crack between the window and the windowsill.

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And this ball of fire comes through the slats and it just rolls across the room, just like

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this across the room.

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And then it smacked my hands on the computer or on the keyboard and it fried the keyboard

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and I could feel that that zapping sensation from my fingertips all the way up to my shoulders.

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And into my neck.

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That's how powerful it was.

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But I had never seen anything like that before until that time.

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And it was literally a ball of, looked like a ball of fire that just came through the

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window and across the room and it didn't dissipate until it hit my hands.

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Then it was like, poof, it was gone, but it was inside of me.

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Well tell everybody Google ball lightning if you haven't heard of this kind of phenomenon

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before.

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And I thought we were safe from lightning in our houses.

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Aren't we supposed to be grounded in a house?

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Yes, you should be.

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But I don't know.

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It's a rare phenomenon for what I understand.

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It doesn't happen very often, but it does happen occasionally.

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Now did this lightning kill you this time or was this just, you felt a big jolt?

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I felt a big jolt and clear up to my shoulders and my neck.

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It was just like, like if you have a exposed wire and you don't know it and you put your

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hand down there and you feel that jolt but you can't take your hand off the wire.

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Your hand is stuck to this wire and you're just like this is, this is, this is, this

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is.

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And that's what it felt like.

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Maybe times 10.

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It did not kill me, but it was very painful and the pain lasts for a while.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Tell us about your second near death experience.

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My second near death experience was, well that was actually the fourth lightning strike

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that happened that caused my fourth near death experience or my second near death experience.

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Okay.

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So let me make sure I'm straight.

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You were struck by lightning three times, didn't die, but then the fourth strike you

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did.

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Right.

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The first two times was ball lightning.

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Then there was another strike where the lightning actually hit the ground and then went through

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a power cord and I was holding a curling iron next to a sink.

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I didn't know it was raining then either.

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And it hit me that way.

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And then the fourth time was what actually killed me.

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I had my second near death experience.

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All right.

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Tell us about that one.

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Was that the fourth lightning too?

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That was the fourth lightning.

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Yes.

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And were you inside or outside this time?

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Actually, I was sitting on the back steps behind our house.

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There were concrete steps and there was like a little roof over me and I was talking on

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a cordless phone and it began to rain.

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And then I heard this kind of a rumble sound and then there was a loud crack and I saw

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the lightning bolt coming out of the sky and it hit my right shoulder.

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And when it did that, it passed through my body leaving tar marks on the concrete steps

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and then it traveled underneath the house and hit the transformer that was in front

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of our house.

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When the lightning hit me, I just kind of, I felt this burning, searing, agonizing pain

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for like a minute.

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And then I pop up out of my body just like peeling a banana and I'm out of my body and

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there's no pain.

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There's nothing.

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I'm laying there crumpled on the ground, but yet I'm alive and I'm not hurting anymore.

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And I go into my house and at this point I had no idea I was dead.

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It didn't register in my mind that I was dead.

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So I go into my house and I look around in the kitchen and I see everything had this

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burnt gold look to it.

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And I looked at the curtains on my windows and they were not my curtains.

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And then I go into the dining room and I noticed the furniture in my dining room is not my

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stuff.

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And I started to worry because I didn't understand what had happened.

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It was my house, but nothing in it was mine.

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So I continue and I go into the living room and I hear this old time radio show playing

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and sounded like something back in the 20s or 30s.

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And I couldn't find the radio anywhere.

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I didn't know what in the world was going on, but I kept hearing this sound.

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And the furniture in the living room wasn't my stuff either.

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And I started to panic about that time, whereas I couldn't understand what in the world.

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And just about the time I totally, completely lost it, there was this huge formless loving

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presence that appeared.

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And this presence just filled me full of love and peace and calm.

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And it was bigger than anything that I can't even adequately describe that kind of love.

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It was even more than what I felt when I drowned.

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Or it was similar to, but this time it was much bigger.

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And what happened after that was this loving presence and I started moving laterally.

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We didn't go up, we didn't go down, but we went sideways.

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And we went through these at great speed through these pink and gold clouds.

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They were the most beautiful things I'd ever seen.

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But we were moving very rapidly through those clouds.

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And at the end of the clouds, there was a magnificent garden.

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And we had just stopped at the very entrance of the garden.

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I could see the colors.

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They were so rich.

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They were so vibrant.

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The air was so crisp and sweet.

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And I could hear birds singing.

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And it looked like the most beautiful spring day that you could possibly imagine.

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And just as we started to move a little bit into the garden, there were two men who greeted

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me.

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And they were wearing this tightly woven ivory linen cloth, like a shirt and lounge pants.

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And at first I thought they were angels because they were glowing.

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And then it hit me.

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When they smiled at me, it was like, oh my gosh, I know who they were.

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They were my two brothers who had died when they were babies.

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And I was actually a baby when they died.

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So it was amazing to see them.

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And when they smiled, they looked just like my dad when he was a young man.

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How old did they seem at that time?

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Late 20s, early 30s.

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Okay.

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How did you know who it was, who they were?

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It was like, as soon as they smiled, it was a deep knowing or divine something that told

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me or I don't know, but I just knew.

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And I was right.

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They were my two brothers.

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And we had a wonderful family reunion.

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But it was like, oh my God, I know who you are.

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And it was like a joyful, blissful sensation of, I know you.

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And I kept telling them that dad would be so proud of them, that I really wished that

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he could see them now because he would really be proud of them.

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And do you know who the other being was that was with you this whole time?

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I knew that it was God, but God was formless.

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He had no form at that time.

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And the love that came out of him was so huge, so big.

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And even though I couldn't see him, I could feel him.

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And I knew he was big.

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He was just huge, bigger than my house.

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But it was like so intense, so strong, that love that was just beyond amazing.

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Tell me what else you saw as you looked around.

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Okay, so my two brothers were with me.

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And this loving, huge, loving presence was stepped from beside me to behind me.

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And we moved in a little bit further into the garden, and I could see flowers everywhere.

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And like the reds were redder, the pinks were pinker.

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And there were colors I didn't even have words for.

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I saw a stream, and the stream had looked like it had a bazillion diamonds just sparkling

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in this beautiful water.

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I heard music, and it was like really what I call big music, like several orchestras

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put together and choirs put together.

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So there were like many stringed instruments and bells and drums and pianos and all kinds

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of different instruments.

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I felt like I had an ivy bottle of knowledge hooked to me that I was being infused with

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all of this knowledge.

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And what I learned was that each blade of grass has a vibration, colors have a vibration,

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the water going over the rocks has a vibration, the leaves on the trees have a vibration.

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And when you put all of those sounds together, it sounds like big music, like orchestra type

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music.

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And there's everything in heaven, every single thing, and every person in heaven is singing

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praises to God.

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And it was huge, just huge music.

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It was so beautiful.

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And then my two brothers, like I said, they were still with me and this huge loving presence

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was there.

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And there were some other people that gathered around me and they were from all different

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time periods.

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And I knew I knew them, but I didn't know from where I knew them from.

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And they were like, some of the women were in beautiful gowns and some of the men were

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in fancy suits.

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And then there were people that were in different kinds of clothes.

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Some were in jeans, like we wear today, some were in lounge clothes or whatever, different

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time period clothing.

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And they were all around the same ages as my brothers were.

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There was nobody that was there that was over mid 30s.

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Everybody was strong and healthy and happy and rosy cheeked and just beautiful.

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I didn't see any old people or sick people or anything like that.

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Now my brothers had to tell me that I died because I didn't know.

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So when they told me that I had died, I was like, well, if this is death, then I can do

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this.

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This is okay.

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I can do this.

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I'm not afraid.

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And then as all these people gathered around me, it was time for my life review.

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And the way that happened was it was like watching an old fashioned black and white

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movie on an old fashioned movie reel.

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And everybody gathered around me for love and support.

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And I could feel this love.

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It was just and the acceptance was beyond words.

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So there was no there was no embarrassment or shame or anything from this?

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No, not not at all.

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It was just total love and acceptance.

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And there was no.

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So I'm watching this movie, this black and white movie on an old fashioned movie reel.

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And it was from the time I was born until that day that I died.

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And there was not an ounce of judgment at all.

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Just love coming from everywhere.

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And I thought I asked my brothers because I thought something was missing.

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And I asked them and they just kind of smiled at me.

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They didn't really answer me.

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They just kind of I thought, are you really serious?

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You're going to play the brother card on me here and not tell me.

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But what I realized was, as I was watching this, I didn't judge me.

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God didn't judge me.

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One of the people around me judged me.

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And so there was no judgment.

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It was just like over real quick.

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And I just thought, wow.

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At first, I thought my life was boring because it was over so quick.

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I'm curious now that you've had time to think about this for a few years.

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Why do you think that life review happens?

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Why do you think you were shown yours?

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I know that I could see how I had acted, the things that I had said, the things that I

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had done, and how they not only affected me, but how they affected other people.

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And I learned that God does not do the judging.

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We do the judging.

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We look at that and we say and I've also found that it's the little things that we do.

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It's not the big things.

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It's the little things like putting your hand on someone, sharing a sweater or stealing

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someone's Easter basket or whatever it is.

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It's just the little things that make the difference.

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So did that cause you to be somewhat of a different person when you came back?

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Absolutely.

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I didn't want to ever hurt anyone ever with my words or with my actions or with my thoughts.

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And I don't, I'm very, very careful about what I say and I take full responsibility

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for what comes out of my mouth.

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And so if I think that I've hurt someone, I immediately apologize to that person or

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apologize to God and just, you know, I don't, I want to leave people happy, not hurting.

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And the whole experience changed my life completely and totally.

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I mean, I'm not the person I was before.

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All right.

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Was there any more to it than that?

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Yes, quite a bit.

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Okay, keep going.

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So after I had my life review, I was walking around and I was actually able to see my,

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my senses were so heightened.

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I was so aware that I could see 360 degrees without even turning my head.

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I didn't have to move in order to see minute details of where I was at.

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And I could see buildings in the distance.

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It was the glow, what I call the glorious city.

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And there's a golden wall that surrounds the city, which I took to mean that there,

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that's the barrier.

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I couldn't go past that barrier.

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And if I did, then I wouldn't be coming back.

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But I saw buildings that were made of alabaster and they had columns and archways and the

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architecture was very, very detailed.

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In the center of the city, I saw a huge round building that had a golden dome on the top.

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On the outskirts of the city, I could see this, what appeared to be what I would call

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a spiritual hospital.

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There were pools, healing pools, and all of these buildings were like the whitest marble

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you ever saw.

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And I saw what that building was for, was for people who died traumatic deaths or died

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quickly and had no idea where they were at or what was going on.

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And so there's mentors and teachers and angels and loved ones who are specifically trained

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to deal with traumatic deaths and so forth.

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And they are taken, these people go there and they are gently brought to the awareness

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of what's happened to them.

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And I saw a place where babies and children go when they die.

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And it's the same thing.

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They are loved and cared for by all kinds of people.

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And these kids, there were all these kids of various ages and stages and they were running

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around laughing and playing and having a wonderful time.

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There were rolling planes and valleys and hills where our animals go.

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I saw two houses.

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One was sitting on a bluff and there was an ocean below it and the ocean was crashing

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up on the waves and the house was made of stones that just glistened in the sunlight.

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And there was another house a few down a ways and it was like almost looked like a mini

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castle.

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It was made out of the castle bricks or whatever, stones.

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And it had a rose garden in the back.

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So as I'm standing there and my brothers are with me and this presence is with me, there

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is a grove of trees over in the corner and I see Jesus and he walks out of the grove

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of trees and he comes over to me.

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I was in such awe of him, his beauty.

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My brothers disappeared.

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I have no idea where they went.

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I only had eyes for Jesus so I didn't pay attention to where they took off to.

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But he said to me, and this was my first clue, I was going to be coming back but it went

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over my head.

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I didn't pick up on it.

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But he said, I love you.

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I'm with you.

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I will always be with you.

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Don't be afraid.

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And while he was saying this to me, we were walking over to this wooded glen and there

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was a log because there was a stream there and then there was a log that was laying down

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in this beautiful wooded area and you could see the sunbeams coming through the trees

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and the pine cones and pine needles and little blue flowers.

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So I sat down on the log and when I sat down on the log, Jesus walks away.

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And I turn and there's this man sitting on the other end of the log and he's kind of

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doodling in the pine needles in the dark.

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He's got the stick and he's just playing around with the whatever's there.

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And we start talking and I knew that this man was God and that before he was that huge

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loving presence and didn't take form, but this time he had taken on a form of a beautiful,

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loving, compassionate man.

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And so he was just talking to me and he asked me, what would you do if it was just me and

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you?

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And I didn't understand the question.

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So I was like, what?

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And he said, what would you do if it was just me and you?

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And I still didn't understand what he was getting at.

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So he smiled at me and he said, well, come with me.

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So we got out and we walked into a clearing in this wooded area and he kind of waved his

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arm and when he did, he opened up the sky and I could see the vastness of the universe.

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I saw the planets and the sparkling stars and this rainbow colored gases, but there

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wasn't any people.

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There was no cars or houses or trees or animals or nothing.

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It was just all that.

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And I looked at him and I said, if it's all of this and just me and you, you'd be sick

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of me after the first 10 minutes with my questions and my chatter and you wouldn't like me anymore.

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And when I said that, he threw his head back and he started laughing.

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His laugh was so contagious that I started laughing because I knew that sounded like

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a really stupid thing to say.

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And so I started laughing too.

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And then we both went and sat back down on the log and he asked me a third time, what

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would you do if it was just me and you?

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And then he said, no parents, no husband, no children, no friends, nothing, just me

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and you.

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Well, I didn't quite know again how to answer that.

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So I don't know if he put this in my head or where this came from because I've never

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read the Koran in my life.

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I've never picked it up, I've never read anything about it.

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I don't know anything about that tradition.

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But I said, God, your hundredth name is God is everywhere, God is nowhere and God is in

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me.

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He said, yes, that's right.

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And I said, as I was looking at this big, huge oak tree that was in front of us, I could

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see the detail of the bark and I could see the roots beneath the ground and I could see

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how the roots were pulling the nutrients out of the dirt, going up into the tree, into

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the leaves and I could see what the leaves were doing and how they were making food for

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the tree and they were also cleaning the air and we breathe the air.

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And so everything is connected and everything depends upon everything else.

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And so everything is important.

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So then all of a sudden I started thinking about my parents and I said, God, you made

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my parents.

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Well, at first I said about the tree, I said, God, you're in this tree.

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You made this tree.

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You're in it.

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So when I see this tree, I see you.

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And he said, yes, that's right.

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Then I started thinking about my parents and I said, God, you made my parents.

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You are in my parents.

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So when I see my parents, I see you.

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And he said, yes.

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And he kept saying, and.

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And so he was trying to get me to think further.

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And so I thought about my children and I said the same thing.

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You know, you made them, you're in them.

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So when I see them, I see you.

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And he said, yes.

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But then I went, started thinking about this people who hurt other people.

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And I said, God, there are people in this world that I don't really like very much because

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they hurt other people.

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I said, but you made them.

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You're in them.

474
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,000
So when I see them, I see you.

475
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,360
And he said, yes.

476
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,800
Then he said, I have a question for you.

477
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,920
And I was like, OK.

478
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,640
And he said, when you look in the mirror, what do you see?

479
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:59,520
And my first answer would have been not much because my whole adult life, I had been told

480
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,000
I was fat, I was ugly, I was stupid.

481
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,640
I wasn't much at all.

482
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,680
And I had no self-esteem.

483
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,400
And so I thought about that.

484
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:17,320
And then I thought, that's not the right answer you give God, the creator of everything.

485
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,840
You just don't say that.

486
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,680
So I told him, I said, God, you made me.

487
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,000
You're in me.

488
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,320
So when I look in the mirror, I see you.

489
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,820
And he was really happy.

490
00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:31,880
He smiled and his eyes sparkled.

491
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,160
And he was really happy that I said that.

492
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:41,520
Then he was telling me that I don't make mistakes.

493
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,160
I don't make junk.

494
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,460
I made you for a reason.

495
00:35:45,460 --> 00:35:50,360
And you are not all of the things that the world tells you you are.

496
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,320
You are what I tell you you are.

497
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,760
And I needed that.

498
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:01,360
That was huge, a huge thing for me at the time.

499
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,360
That's a lot.

500
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,360
That's amazing.

501
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,200
Is there even more than that?

502
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,960
A little bit.

503
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,160
Go ahead and wrap it up.

504
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Let's hear it.

505
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,160
Okay.

506
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:20,840
So after we got done talking, I was able to think for a minute after that huge revelation

507
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,440
that just was in my mind and my heart.

508
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:34,160
These two angels came and they were dressed in these beautiful ornate gowns or robes.

509
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,280
And they took me to this lake that was very calm.

510
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,080
It was like looking into glass.

511
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:49,240
And I leaned over and I looked down into the water and I could see the earth below.

512
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:58,720
What I saw were future world events that are actually taking place now.

513
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:07,840
So back in 2005, it was like, I was like, oh my gosh, this is crazy.

514
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:15,260
I saw things that stemmed from or were a result of the 9-11 attacks.

515
00:37:15,260 --> 00:37:23,920
So I saw things like, I saw so much, it's hard to talk about all of it, but it was the

516
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,600
bombings and women and children being used as human shields.

517
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:34,040
It was a few terrorist attacks that had taken place in different parts of the country.

518
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:45,360
I saw this black cloud that hangs over governmental capitals at different parts of the world.

519
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,880
I saw earthquakes and tsunamis and all kinds of things.

520
00:37:50,880 --> 00:38:00,240
I saw a lot of riots that were taking place in the street.

521
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:05,560
I just saw a lot of the craziness of the world that we're actually seeing now.

522
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,280
And I do have a document that has everything on it, but I don't really talk about that

523
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,280
too much.

524
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,560
It's scary.

525
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:18,840
I saw artificial intelligence and I kept saying, oh my gosh, that's Robocop.

526
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,440
Because I didn't know what else to call it.

527
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,920
It was like, this is all weird looking.

528
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,480
All of this is really bad.

529
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:36,280
And I was frightened by it, but yet distant from it at the same time.

530
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,800
And the angels were saying, this does not have to happen.

531
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,820
These things don't have to happen.

532
00:38:43,820 --> 00:38:49,480
You all have control over whether this happens or not by the choices you make.

533
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:57,400
And you can change these course of events by changing the way you think and the things

534
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,880
you do and acting out of selfishness and that kind of thing.

535
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:11,240
So they were very clear that what I was seeing did not have to happen, but it has happened.

536
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,000
So we apparently not have changed yet.

537
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:21,060
And by that, did they mean you personally, Sharon, could change those things or humankind

538
00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:22,560
as a whole would have to change?

539
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,560
Humankind as a whole.

540
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:30,320
They talked about the collective human selfishness.

541
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:36,560
The collective, it wasn't, you know, because I even asked, I said, how in the world can

542
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,880
me do a thing about any of those?

543
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,740
I can't stop it.

544
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:51,240
And that's when they were very clear about saying it's not, you know, I can change my

545
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,360
little part of the world.

546
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,900
You can change your little part of the world.

547
00:39:56,900 --> 00:40:02,900
And someone else can change their little part of the world by doing loving acts of kindness

548
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:06,240
and caring about others.

549
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,440
That can raise vibration.

550
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:14,320
That can, you know, that does matter.

551
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,680
But if you change your part of the world, I change my part of the world, someone else

552
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:24,160
changes theirs and on and on and on, that's what they were talking about.

553
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,360
You know, we can't, I can't change the whole universe.

554
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,160
God can, but I can't.

555
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:41,440
So it takes every one of us working together to make a positive, loving, positive choices

556
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:49,800
to change these course of events, because these events are caused by, by evil intention,

557
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:56,480
and negative, selfish acts that cause these things to happen.

558
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,680
They want power, money, greed, whatever it is.

559
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,720
That's what causes these things to happen.

560
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:08,520
You know, so we have to counter that by doing loving, caring things.

561
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,880
Yeah.

562
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,680
So at some point you came back, were you given a choice or were you just told time for you

563
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,200
to go back?

564
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,200
I got the boot.

565
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,000
Oh, sad.

566
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,800
I know.

567
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:31,160
I got no, if I had a conversation with God about coming back, I don't remember that.

568
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,240
I remember so much of else, but not that particular conversation.

569
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:38,520
So it probably wasn't very nice.

570
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:47,000
But as soon as I saw the events, I just come flying back into my body, just slamming back

571
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,440
into my body in the backyard.

572
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:56,400
And I did get medical attention and I have a right bundle branch block in my heart and

573
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,040
seizures from the lightning.

574
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,000
But other than that, I'm okay.

575
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Wow.

576
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,000
Okay.

577
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:13,280
I know you have had two other NDEs a few years later and those were from various medical

578
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,880
kinds of things and we don't need to get into all that detail, but were there any, was there

579
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:29,720
anything in these other NDEs that was in addition to what you saw in this first major NDE or

580
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:31,920
just anything else that you learned?

581
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,920
Yes.

582
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:40,320
Actually, my third one, I went, I was in, it was in November of 2016 and I had about

583
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,320
blockage and went into surgery.

584
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:52,640
And during the surgery, I died from the breathing tube I aspirated.

585
00:42:52,640 --> 00:43:00,560
And so I left my body and I go up in the corner of the room because I, well, first I hovered

586
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,400
over and saw what they were doing.

587
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,680
And I just thought that was the grossest thing because I saw their hands and it was like,

588
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,740
okay, that's, I'm done.

589
00:43:10,740 --> 00:43:14,360
So I went into the corner of the room and I sat there for a few minutes and then there

590
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:20,240
was this rainbow colored, looked like a whirlpool going the other direction.

591
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:25,680
So I just went right up inside of that and I ended up back in heaven and the same place

592
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,880
I was before.

593
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,600
And I noticed the landmarks.

594
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,000
I remembered the golden wall.

595
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,040
There was a field stone wall that had pink roses growing up and over it.

596
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,960
And I saw it.

597
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Now the vantage point that I was standing this time, I was not in the garden, but I

598
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,080
could see where the garden was.

599
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,520
And there were people pouring out of this garden where I had been before.

600
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:57,520
This time I'm standing next to the golden wall and it's so big and so tall that there

601
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,140
was no way I could jump it or get through it.

602
00:44:01,140 --> 00:44:06,480
And it didn't dawn on me just to walk a couple steps down to my left and there's the gates

603
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,420
and they're open wide.

604
00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:16,640
And there was this little brown and white beagle puppy and he was jumping at my feet

605
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,520
and he wanted me to play with them.

606
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,380
So I leaned down and I'm playing with this little beagle.

607
00:44:22,380 --> 00:44:25,960
And I didn't, you know, he was so cute.

608
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,760
So there was, you know, a lot of interaction between me and him.

609
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:38,280
But at the same time I look up and I see these people coming through this beautiful meadow,

610
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:43,040
tall grass and wildflowers from the garden.

611
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,440
They're walking through the meadow and then they go into the gates that are open and they

612
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,760
go inside.

613
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:55,920
Now as I'm standing there, I'm hearing dishes clanging and people talking and there was

614
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:02,160
music playing and it sounds like somebody's getting ready to have a big party of some

615
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,160
sort.

616
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:12,920
Two particular, I saw men, women, children, all ages, sizes, races, traditions, whatever.

617
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,480
And they were all going in there into the gates.

618
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:26,280
And I saw specifically, I saw two Arab men and they were wearing their, the robes and

619
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,440
the, I don't know what you call the things on their heads.

620
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,960
And they were laughing with each other.

621
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,720
And I noticed that everybody that was walking through the field had angels with them who

622
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:41,200
were taller and more illuminated than they were.

623
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,680
So everybody had their own angel.

624
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:53,960
And then I saw a man who looked like he was from New York or a big city and he was a construction

625
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,960
worker.

626
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,400
He still had his helmet on and tool belt that had tools tucked down in it.

627
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,880
And he walked past me.

628
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:09,960
And then there was two people that I actually knew, well, one of them I knew.

629
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,720
And that kind of surprised me.

630
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:17,960
It was a younger man who had died years ago, who was the son of a friend of mine.

631
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:27,720
And he was accompanying an older gentleman that I knew was his father.

632
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:33,440
And as he, when he walked up to me with his dad, I smiled at him and I said, oh my God,

633
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,920
I know you.

634
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,640
And he just grinned at me and nodded and he and his dad walked in through the gates

635
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,280
into the city.

636
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:55,080
And now there was more to this, but to keep it short, what was important was that I, first

637
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,640
of all, recognized everything that I had seen because I'd seen it in my second one.

638
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,960
My spirit went back into my body.

639
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,320
I am laying there on a breathing machine.

640
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:11,400
And when I start to come to the nurse who was beside me, unhooked all the machines and

641
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,560
whatever.

642
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:22,560
And once I was well enough to go to my room, I pick up my phone to give a message to someone.

643
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,480
And I see that there has been a message from a joint friend of me and the woman who lost

644
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,600
her son years ago.

645
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:35,160
And apparently she had lost her husband that day while I was in surgery.

646
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:42,280
And I said, I know, because I saw him with his son and they were together and they went

647
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,640
into the city together and he's okay.

648
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:52,840
And when I told my daughter, when she came to see me in the hospital, I told her about

649
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,800
this puppy that I saw.

650
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:03,120
And she was like, mom, we had to call the police on this guy that lives down the street

651
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:09,200
from us who we saw him beating his beagle puppy to death.

652
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,320
And the man did get arrested.

653
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,680
But I told her, and I knew nothing about the beagle because I didn't have a beagle puppy.

654
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,080
I didn't know anybody that did.

655
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,480
So when I told her, it made perfect sense.

656
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,240
And I told her, I said, the beagle, the puppy's fine.

657
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:25,240
He's happy.

658
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:26,240
He's fine.

659
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:27,240
He's not hurting.

660
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:28,240
He's okay.

661
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:29,240
Yeah.

662
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:30,240
Lots of comforting messages there.

663
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:31,240
Right.

664
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:32,880
Yeah.

665
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,800
Anything new from experience number four?

666
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,480
Well, that was a void experience.

667
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:48,000
And I had, I was always afraid of that particular place because I'd been on the different groups

668
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,880
on Facebook and whatever.

669
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,240
And people talk about it all the time.

670
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:53,240
And it scared me.

671
00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:55,320
And I thought, I don't ever want to go there.

672
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,440
But I ended up there.

673
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,320
And to me, it was not scary.

674
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:06,800
I knew there were other souls there, but what they were doing was their business, not mine.

675
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:16,720
And I, at the time, I just, I was so tired and I was very depressed and I just needed

676
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:17,960
time to rest.

677
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:26,040
And what I was wrapped in this, I'd fallen asleep after they gave me the medicine.

678
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:31,480
And the next thing I know, I'm rising up, up, up, three ups.

679
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:38,200
And then it's like, I feel like I'm a helium balloon and I'm floating and I'm up, up, up.

680
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,360
But I'm wrapped in this beautiful black velvet blanket.

681
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:52,880
And I'm encased in this safety, comforting, dark, restful, whatever this was.

682
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,840
And occasionally I could peek through the blanket and I could see this brilliant light

683
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,800
and it looked like stars.

684
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,280
But I thought, no, I'd rather stay in the blanket.

685
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,120
I like it here better.

686
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,360
It was so comforting and so soothing.

687
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,600
And I was just suspended there for a while.

688
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:18,640
And then when I talk about that huge, loving presence, the huge, loving presence was standing

689
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:23,560
over me and I could see who it was and it was God again.

690
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,120
And He was huge, huge, huge, huge.

691
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:33,120
And He was talking about, He was either talking to my soul or He was talking to another individual

692
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,240
about me.

693
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:40,280
I could hear the conversation, but it was like I was not a part of the conversation.

694
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:46,360
I was just in this blanket and I was being held in God's huge hands and He was just holding

695
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,280
me suspended there in comfort and love.

696
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:55,640
And I heard Him say, let's not make a hasty decision.

697
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,760
Let's think about this for a little while.

698
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,480
You're tired.

699
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:00,680
You're sad.

700
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:01,960
Just let me hold you.

701
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,160
I'll hold you.

702
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,160
We'll think about this.

703
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,840
Because if it was left up to me, I would have gone right then.

704
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,800
But that's not what He wanted.

705
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,480
He wanted me to think about it.

706
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:20,480
And after He said that, it was, I felt like a vacuum was sucking me back down, down, down,

707
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,240
three downs.

708
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:27,760
And I was back in the hospital room and I had a non-breather oxygen mask on my face

709
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:33,120
and the lights were so bright and the nurses, the doctors were standing next to my bed screaming

710
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,120
at me.

711
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,840
And there were nurses everywhere.

712
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:42,220
And it was like, oh my word, let me go back where it was dark and quiet and peaceful and

713
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loving and I'm back here now.

714
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Oh my gosh.

715
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So that's that.

716
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,440
Well, Sharon, that's a lot of experiences.

717
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,760
That's amazing.

718
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Most people that you're sharing this earth with have not been struck by lightning even

719
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once.

720
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Most people have not had a near death experience, even one of them.

721
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You've had four of each.

722
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Here's my last question for you.

723
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Why?

724
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Why do you think you've had these experiences?

725
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:27,160
I don't know why me, but I'm using the opportunity to tell people about God and about His love

726
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:35,120
that there is no death, that only the physical body dies, but the part of you that makes

727
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,840
you who you are does not die.

728
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:49,720
Every single person that's ever been created is loved so much that we are so, so important

729
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to all of creation.

730
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And if we weren't here anymore, then creation changes.

731
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And because everything is connected and everything is dependent upon everything else.

732
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:11,360
And I also tell people that God loves us so much that if He stopped thinking about us,

733
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He thinks about us 24-7 every day.

734
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,740
And if He stopped, even for an instant, we would just no longer be.

735
00:53:18,740 --> 00:53:27,040
So we know that we are loved continuously, no matter what, we are loved and that we are

736
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important.

737
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And I just, I do it for His glory, not mine.

738
00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:38,600
And I don't know why it happened to me four times.

739
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:43,120
Maybe I just needed to learn and it took four times for me to learn or maybe even more.

740
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,600
I don't know.

741
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,640
Well, thanks for being with us today and sharing.

742
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:49,640
Thank you for having me.

743
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:50,640
It was an honor.

744
00:53:50,640 --> 00:54:01,920
If you have had a round trip death experience, we would love to hear about it.

745
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,600
Send an email to eric at roundtripdeath.com.

746
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,940
And lastly, if you have found this program uplifting, if it's given you just a little

747
00:54:09,940 --> 00:54:15,140
more hope in the future, share it with a friend, hit that follow button and take a few seconds

748
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to write us a review.

749
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Until next time, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and

750
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the next.