#219 - I Was Run Over By A Navy Ship! - Greg's Near Death Experience

0:00 One of life's greatest questions is what happens to us after we die? Is death the end or a new beginning? Welcome to the Round Trip Death Podcast. In this show, we listen to first-hand accounts of people who have gone beyond the veil and return to talk about it. Today our featured guests not only had an interesting near-death experience, but one of the most spectacular accidents you will ever hear, as he was actually run over by a large Navy ship in the freezing Antarctic Ocean. How did it happen? And how did he make it back? We are about to find out.

0:47 So we are honored to have with us today on the podcast, Greg Keely from Australia. Greg, how are you? Absolutely fantastic, Eric. Thank you for the opportunity. I'm looking forward to sharing my experience and hopefully it might help some people get through some struggles that they have been as I did from mine. Would you mind giving us, before you tell us what led up to your near-death experience, tell us just a little bit about you and your background so we can get to know you some? Yeah, fantastic. All right. So I was born in Sydney, Australia back in 1968 and grew up a child of the 80s in Australia, which was pretty cool.

1:31 You know, normal sort of a family. It wasn't until much later in adult life that I found out that I had what was called a narcissistic father. However, that led to pretty much the NDE that we'll talk about and my careers, many, many careers. I ended up having about 41 career changes in my life through this self-sabotage, one of them which was in the military, which we'll talk about and where the NDE occurred. I've moved all the way up the East Coast of Australia, up and back, and now I live in a place called the Sunshine Coast, which is, I suppose, similar to the Florida sort of a weather, but it's got lots of lovely surf beaches and I surf every single day for my own mental health and absolutely love it.

2:26 I've got a very patient wife of 25 years who went through all my thermals of self-sabotage and she's still there, which is fantastic. I've got two boys, one's 21 and the other one's 18. Wow, surfing every day, that's not a bad life. It's winter down there right now, so does that mean you have bigger waves? We do have bigger waves and we get to wear a wetsuit, but this is why I moved here. I've moved all the way up and down the East Coast of Australia. I've been over to the West Coast a couple of times and that's where this NDE took place, but it is bigger waves in the winter and I absolutely just love it.

3:13 It helps me be grounded and it's something I think everyone should do is find something that they love and be able to do it as much as they can because it's amazing how much more happier life becomes. I could not agree more. That's fantastic. Before you get into the lead up to your NDE, would you mind just almost giving us a little teaser, just a teeny glint as to what you saw or experienced in your NDE without telling us the whole story? Then we're going to get to the lead up because the lead up is absolutely amazing. For people that haven't heard your story, you are going to be blown away with what happened to Greg.

3:54 Tease us first. All right. Actually, I ended up having two in the one evening and you'll understand it when I go into more depth. I did see and feel other entities, but they weren't from this life. It must have been from another time, another place. The biggest thing that I took away from it was the love that I felt there. I was sort of torn. I had absolutely no control of which direction I was going, but the lead up to it will definitely allow me to explain it in much more detail.

4:38 Okay. I'll let you fill in more details in a few minutes. You were in the Royal Australian Navy. Set the stage. What in the world happened? All right. I joined the Royal Australian Navy as a clearance diver. It's similar to your Navy SEALs over there and we did a lot of underwater ship attacks. We did deep water mine clearances, explosives. We did a lot of dry land explosive, ordnance disposal.

5:19 We've got a couple of different ranks and different entities in different militaries. I suppose the clearance diver is classified as a special forces in the Navy. I got to work with some of the most amazing men in the Army. They have what was called the SAS Regiment, Special Air Service Regiment, that are the elite of Australia's military. I managed to work with them for six months over in Western Australia, the other side.

6:02 We went over there, did a lot of work ups, jumping out of helicopters, a lot of ship sporting. Our task was to head down from Western Australia all the way down to the Antarctic Ocean because Australia's waters, Australian waters down there in the Antarctic Ocean. There's a lot of illegal vessels down there trafficking, fishing, doing things that they shouldn't. We were the first mission to go down there with a combined Army and Navy. I'll set the scene for you. It's 2 a.m. in the morning. The seas are huge.

6:42 I believe I was told they were 17-meter seas, so they were much higher than the ship. It was so cold that when the waves would hit the side of the hull of the ship, the water would instantly freeze. It looked like it was snowing upwards. It was quite a bizarre event and an experience. Now, at 2 a.m., we get the call that we have to get to boarding stations. Because it was so cold, we couldn't go by helicopter because the rotors were all frosted up. What we would do is they would launch a boat off the Navy frigate of the ship.

7:28 It was called a rigid inflatable boat, a RIB. They would lower it down. It was probably about 20-foot long. It had these seats in it that everyone sat behind each other. Basically, we would end up going from the top of the Navy ship down into the boat. They'd lower the boat into the water by a crane. The guys would drive it to the side of the ship, and then they would lower a line to the front of the boat. They had a bowman, a guy at the front. He would clip on the rope, and then the guy that was driving the boat would take the accelerator off the engine, and the boat would pull up alongside the ship because the ship was still doing about 10 knots, which is about 10 miles per hour through this massive sea.

8:21 So, if you can imagine the ships going at 10 knots and this small boat being pulled alongside, does that make sense? Yes, but I cannot imagine them doing this in, you said 17-meter waves, so that's like 50 feet, if my math is right. 50-foot waves in a little tiny, what we call a zodiac kind of boat. Yeah, it could take probably about 11 or 12 people sitting back to front or front to back, and there's a center console where a guy would be driving it.

9:04 It had two big engines on the back. That's insane. They couldn't wait for it to calm down a little bit. I don't know what happened up at the top there with the decisions. I was just one of the fellows that had to do the job. But I do understand what you're saying. It's a fair question to ask. I get it. That's just crazy. We think of these super tough Australian guys and there you were. I mean, you're probably eating snakes for dinner and stuff. It was definitely a challenge. Like anyone that might be ex-military or emergency services, police, or paramedics or fire, when you're trained to do something, you just do it.

9:53 You don't sit there and try and rationalize. You just have to do it. So anyway, what we would do is we had to get from the top of the Navy ship, the frigate, down into the boat that's being towed alongside. It's going up and down with the big waves, obviously. But the rope that it's attached to is pulling it alongside the ship. So it's sort of sucked in alongside the ship as the ship's going forward. Now usually, you see people that would climb down a ladder to a boat that's being towed alongside, but it takes too long. And of course, with the boat going up and down so much, we had to compromise and get into the boat as fast as possible.

10:39 So you may have seen on the news or with the military throwing out of a helicopter. It's called a fast rope. It's a really thick, fluffy rope. And they throw it down. So we've got it from the top of the Navy frigate going down the side of the ship. And the end of the rope sits in the boat that's being towed alongside. So we would jump off the side of the ship and fly down, almost like a controlled or a directional descent. And we would land at the bottom of the boat. And then that person would move to the back. And then the next guy would jump down. So it was like they call it a stick, a stick of guys just flying down.

11:20 And so you go from it was about 30 feet drop. And you couldn't stop because the ropes went, but it's guides you instead of jumping overboard. It guides you into the boat that's being towed alongside. You're following? Yeah, I was wondering, I was going to ask you how high that was. But you told us that's 30 feet now. Of course, when the waves go down, that's probably even a little bit higher. But OK, so you've got it. How cold is the water, by the way? I don't know, but it was it was it was probably around the zero temperature, around the zero to two degrees, maybe to combat the weather.

12:06 We had to wear big snow suits. So we had a big snow suits on big heavy boots. We had automatic weapons in a rifle format. Plus I had pistols, a few quite a lot of ammunition. I also had a backpack on which had three days ration. So when we took the ship, we could stay on it. And then I also had a large sledgehammer strapped to my back to bash indoors in case we had to get into locked compartments and commandeer the ship to take control of it and then guide it back to Australia, to Australia, the land. So I was very heavily laden with equipment.

12:50 Yeah. How much does all that weigh, would you say? I don't. If I had to guess, it would probably be around 20 to 30 kilos on top of my my body weight. OK, so another 50, 60 pounds. OK, plus the big suit you're wearing. Yeah. So you'll understand why this all happened with this big suit that I was wearing when I go into my store a bit more. So you're about to jump, grab a rope that's wet, icy and just very gradually go down to the nice little boat.

13:32 Yeah, it sounds good. So there was two boats. So the first lot of guys, about seven of them or eight of them, they jump into the first boat and then the guy on the sailor on the helm that's driving it would motor it forward and the guy at the front, the bow would unclip the hook that's hooked onto the boat and they then would pull away from the ship and then go to the rear and sit behind the back of the ship on the stern, right, and follow behind it. Then they lowered a second boat, which would do the same. They drove up alongside it, hooked on the shackle at the front, and then they sort of they just called sweating back.

14:19 They just take the the throttle off and it pulls the boat alongside. And as luck would have it, I'm the first man down that rope into the second boat. So I look at the guy next to me who's in charge. He gives me a chop with his hand. He goes, right, go, Greg. So I jump out overboard and start flying down this road. Now the universe works in mysterious ways. So the side of the ship was struck by an incredibly large wave, which hit the boat that was being towed alongside and pushed it outwards as I was sliding down the road and the shackle that was pulling that small boat alongside snapped.

15:04 So it started going backwards and my the rope then was went out of the boat into the water. And so I flew all the way from the top 30 foot down straight into the Antarctic Ocean. And I was hanging on the side of the rope, getting towed alongside the ship at 10 miles an hour. So I'm hanging on this rope and I'm looking up at this massive gray wall in front of me, which is the side of the ship, and I'm seeing all these bodies up there starting to panic because I've gone overboard. And I'm hanging on to the rope, getting towed alongside with the with all that weight, the snowsuit filling up with water, all the boots and all that sort of stuff.

15:46 And the guy that was in the little boat that was being towed alongside, he's seen what's happened. So he accelerates and brings the boat up right next to me as I'm being towed alongside the ship. And the bowman who's at the front of the boat is yelling at me to let go of the rope I'm hanging on to and hang on to the side of the boat. So I did that because my I was slowly going under. And so I let go of that and I hung on to the side of the boat. Now what he should have done, the guy that was driving it is stop. Right.

16:27 But he didn't. He was going forwards, and in which case I was getting towed along the front of the boat and my body was going under the boat. Does that make sense? It's terrifying. So I'm looking at yes, I'm looking up at this guy and he says, he's saying, don't let go. He's screaming at me, don't let go. But I'm weighted down. We're doing 10 knots. And I'm getting dragged under the boat. My fingers slowly start prying open. And I'm looking up at this guy and my last ditch hope and my fingers just let go and I go underwater. So I remember going underwater and it was so cold that I sort of my body automatically just gasped and I sucked in a lot of freezing cold water, which which felt like it was freezing my throat.

17:17 And I popped up on the surface coughing up all the water that I swallowed by that time. And I looked around and the boat that I went under was gone. He bugged out. And I was alongside the ship. So the ship's sailing along and there's me sitting in the water next to it. And I remember seeing this massive gray wall in front of me. And I've looked down the side of it and I saw this this huge churning of foam at the back of the ship where the propellers are turning. So the propellers rotate outside in and I'm going towards it.

18:02 I'm trying to push myself out panic starting to come into my my thought process here that I'm about to get chopped up by the propellers. So I'm wearing all this gear. I'm pushing away from the ship. But because it's moving forward, the wake, the wave of the ship is just sucking me into the side of the hull. Yeah, sure. So I'm getting quite close to this foaming at the back of the ship, the stern there. And I'm in the panic starting to really take me. And all of a sudden I get sucked underwater by the propellers. So instant blackness because it's nighttime.

18:43 My eyeballs were freezing. I was sucking in a lot of water and I was thrashing my arms and legs as hard as and fast as I could. As we do through that, you know, we went through the go through the fight, the flight or the freeze. I was fighting for my life at this stage. I get sucked under the ship and my right, the ball of my right foot hits something hard. So it must have been the hull. And I pushed off with all my might. And all of a sudden I felt this freedom like there was I was no longer getting turned around like I was in a washing machine. And so I started struggling with my arms upwards to the top of the surface of the water.

19:25 And I popped up on the surface in at 2am in 17 meter squeeze. And I remember seeing the back of the Navy ship slowly leaving me. And I felt this relief because I hadn't been chopped up by the propellers. Yeah, I have a feeling I know what's coming next. Yeah. So so you're going to may I was all of a sudden I was I felt quite free of that. And I felt quite relieved. And then reality came back with how am I going to stay up on the surface here? So I start trying to tread water with my arms and my legs.

20:05 I've got my weapons, my backpack, my sledgehammer, my suit, which is really heavy. And I had communications in my ear. And I could hear the panic on all the people on the ship saying man overboard. And they were talking to the guys in the small boats that they'd left behind. And I heard them saying we can see him, we can see him. We've got we've identified him. And I'm and I'm turning around on the top of the water trying to stay above it, but trying to see them. And then I've seen them in the distance. This boat. And it's full of the first boats full of the guys that were in it. And they they come flying towards me.

20:47 They're going to rescue me. Okay. However, the swell the seas are so big. He's surfing down the side of this wave totally uncontrolled, uncontrollable. And he's run straight over the top of me. And I had on like a little state a preschooler pro tech helmets, a little bit of foam helmet. He's hit that and pushed me underwater. And the propellers gone over and quit the top of the helmet there. And it's probably pushed me a couple of meters, which is, I don't know, I don't know what about five, six feet underwater. And I started sucking in a lot of water, struggling to get back to the surface.

21:29 So I got back to the surface. Panic was just, you know, it was uncontrollable. The panic is just the fight, fight for your life sort of mode. I got back up to the surface. I was coughing and spluttering. And I heard on this, this communications in my ear, the boat I was supposed to get in, they've now seen me and they say we can get him. Same things happen. They've run straight over me and pushed me under. So I've been done. I'm like a tea bag getting done underneath the Antarctic Ocean here in the cold water. And I struggled back up to the surface, found my way up to the top there. And I've seen the two boats just circling me now trying to do the best they can in this uncontrollable water to get to me.

22:15 And I'm looking at them going around in circles myself trying to keep an eye on them. And it was like it was everything just started slowing down. My arms became very heavy because of the cold and all my joints started stiffening up. Because what tends to happen is when we go and are submerged into extreme cold, the blood leaves our extremities and congregates around our organs to try and protect us. So all of a sudden, I feel that it's very difficult to tread water. And my head keeps going underwater.

22:56 I'm drinking a lot of water. I'm struggling to get back up. This lasted what seemed to be 10 weeks, right? But it was only about four or five minutes, I believe. Kept going on. And then I just couldn't get back up to the surface. It was as if I could see the reflection on the water. It was like the moon or something was up there. And it was just beyond reach. It was like I was struggling to get above the water. And it was a different world up there. So and my joints had just stopped working. So I started sinking. Don't you have some kind of a life jacket on? I did. I had what's called a special forces life jacket on.

23:37 And it only works if you pull the toggle. So during my time, good question, that actually, during my time of struggling up the top, I was trying to find the toggle. But when I had got sucked under the ship, it had all ripped. So it just it wasn't, it was all torn anyway. And I couldn't find that. So as yeah, good question, because it was going through my mind, where is this bloody jacket? Right? So so anyway, I'm sinking and I'm sucking in a lot of water. My eyes are open blackness because of the water. And I remember my throat. It was as if I was sucking in this freezing cold liquid that was freezing my throat.

24:23 And the panic, the panic was was extreme. It was the worst it obviously it could ever be. And then this was my first trip to the quantum side was I found this calmness come over me. And it was as if I had been all of a sudden wrapped in this warm blanket. And I felt this warmth and this comfort that the panic, there's no need panicking anymore. It's just everything's okay. And so as I was sinking down, I felt as if this black liquid like this, it came over my eyes as if it went from the blackness of the water to a much deeper darkness.

25:13 But the calmness throughout that as well. And I went to a place that I can only describe as being a transitional place between life and quantum or death, whatever you want to call it. And it was calm. It was just so calm. Blackness I didn't see any lights or anything like that. It was just this calmness and this relief and release. And what I felt at that stage and I only started understanding this when I started telling the story many years later, I started to understand that I didn't actually exist as Greg Keighley.

26:02 I'd had experienced things and I had appreciated them in my life, but it's as if Greg Keighley didn't exist. Does that make sense? It's like I went to the, I was going to this other side and I didn't have any thoughts of family, friends or me or what I looked like or anything. It was just experiences in life. So that seemed to have lasted a long time. That blackness. And then almost as if someone shone a light in my eyes, I'm on the boat, the first boat of guys and they're all standing above me and I've come to, I've come back to life wherever I was.

26:55 Right. How did you get to the boat, onto the boat? So here's the, they're going around me and I start sinking, going off on my own journey. They jump in the water, two of them jump in the water. They create what's like a human chain arm to leg and they've created this chain underneath the water and they're thrashing around in the blackness. And one of the guys whose name was Matt, he grabs the back of my backpack in the blackness, grabs it, pulls himself up to the next guy and they pull the, all of them back up onto the surface. The boat stopped and they, there's seven or eight of them, they lift me out of the water, I'm unconscious wherever I am, into the boat.

27:42 And then they all get back in the boat and I come back. So all of a sudden I'm back on the boat and it's as if where I'd just been and what had just happened didn't happen. It was, okay, here we are, let's go and let's go on the mission. Let's get this boat. I'm saying to the other guys, okay, let's go. What's going on? Not knowing what just happened. So I didn't really acknowledge what had happened. And they're talking saying to the Bain frigate, the ship, to the officers saying he wants to continue on the mission. Can we keep going? And they said, no, no, no, you bring him back.

28:22 So my boat comes alongside the one I missed. I stand up, get over from this boat onto the other one, which apparently you shouldn't do and I'll talk to that, talk to you about that in a second. Because remembering that all my blood had left my extremities and gathered around my organs to try and keep them going for as long as possible. So when you have what's called hypothermia and your body temperature drops, this is what your blood does. So getting up, moving around creates the blood to leave the organs and get back to the extremities, your hands and your feet, and usually you would drop dead from shock because the blood then leaves it.

29:11 Your body goes into shock and you die. However, this didn't happen to me. I was totally oblivious to all the safety procedures. And I'm let's go get this ship because that's how you're trained. I didn't even know that I'd screwed up the mission, which I suffered for later. I got ridiculed for many years after that. But I just thought, OK, we've got to keep going. So the boat comes alongside, they launch, they winch it back up to the ship. I climb over the side and there's all these officers there, male and female, and they throw me into the wardroom, which is their main room, like their lounge, and they've created an emergency area there.

29:56 And they've taken my temperature and my body temperature was 34 degrees Celsius. Now normally we sit at 37 degrees Celsius. I don't know what temperature that is in Fahrenheit. To Fahrenheit is 93.2 degrees. So you were a good five plus degrees in Fahrenheit lower than you should be. So they're obviously stressing about this. And so they start taking off all my gear. And then comes my next experience where I just drop to the ground and become unresponsive.

30:44 So that's what they see. What happened with me is I don't remember falling to the ground. All of a sudden I transitioned straight back to where I was in that blackness. But this time I see, I feel, I didn't really, yeah, I could see silhouettes. I close my eyes, I can go back there because this is what I do now. I do a lot of hypnotherapy and unconscious coaching. So I can close my eyes and go back there. And I see the silhouettes of a lot of figures and they may have been 12 or 13 of them, almost in a line.

31:28 And they're pointing away from me toward, past them, towards this other dark darkness. And I could feel what they were saying. They were so excited. There was such excitement there as if I was coming back from being away. And I felt this overwhelming love of just, it's hard to explain, but I felt this overwhelming love that I'm finally back where I should be.

32:09 You know what I mean? It's like, thank you, Greg didn't exist. It was like I said before, same thing. I didn't exist in this life. I didn't see my body. I didn't see the people in it. I just felt these entities, they're very big, very tall. And they were from somewhere else, not from this life. I just had no connection with this life at all. I started getting, like I was drifting towards them. There was no control, as I mentioned at the start of this. I was just going towards them. And there was just such intense love. It wasn't inside me. It was sort of all around me. It was everywhere. And it was like they were applauding and clapping and saying, yeah, come with us, come back, come back.

32:54 And I was just going in that direction. Then I start hearing a voice. And the voice was so soothing. And I might get a bit emotional here every time I talk about this voice. It was a voice that was saying, it's OK, you can come back now. Sorry, I get a bit emotional. So every time I talk about it, I can hear it. And it's, you can come back to us now, come back. And it was so soft and so much love in this voice. But it wasn't in the direction that they were leading me.

33:35 It was in over mountains and mountains and mountains of distance away. And there wasn't mountains. There wasn't light. There was just darkness. And I felt myself pause. And that voice just was so amazingly attractive to me and loving to me that it just got louder and closer. And it kept repeating over and over. It's OK, darling was coming in. Darling, it's OK, you can come back. And sorry, I'm about to cry as I'm saying this.

34:19 And it was so intense. And all of a sudden, I start feeling some things in my body. And I'm feeling a stroking on my right hand, and that voice was just over and over. And it actually was a female officer that was talking to me and guiding me back. It was just amazing. And as I felt her, it was almost as if it was on my right side because she was holding my right hand. And I looked over to the other side of my left and I saw all those entities there, the figures.

35:01 And they were just standing there, not disappointed, but almost as if they just understood it's OK. And so I come back and I open my eyes and there's this lady where she's got a mask over her face. She had a hat on. She was dressed in scrubs, like blue sort of, I don't know what they wear in theatres and stuff, but she wore in the Navy ship. And she's kept saying to me, it's OK, darling, you're here now, you're here, you're back. And slowly, when I regained consciousness and could understand where I was, I was actually lying on the floor and they put over a plastic blanket on me that was pumping in warm air to try and bring my body temperature back.

35:56 And so this took a while and my body temperature came back and they said, are you OK? And I said, yeah, yeah, I'm fine. So I went back down to my rack, my bed, my bunk and lay down. I just strapped yourself in because the ship was going up so high with the waves and then come crashing down that you had to strap yourself into the bunk. And I remember thinking what just happened? Like that was quite bizarre. What was all that about? And it was as if it was something I'd read in a book or maybe watched on a movie very briefly.

36:36 But it seemed to have lasted a long time. OK, let me ask you a couple of questions and we'll go on to what happened after this voice that you heard that you described is really calm and soothing. Was that the woman's voice the whole time or was it more of like a voice from God at some point or was it her just coming through to wherever you were? Yeah, perfect question. So that was her coming through. I felt there was no voices in that transition stage. It was just feelings, feelings of welcome home, feelings of excitement.

37:18 Yes, you know, we can be together again. And it was all of the entities there, but it was something so much bigger as well. So it felt like I had returned home to a massive family gathering and they were all excited. And it was like the big grandpa at the top of the head of the table was there and everyone else. But it was there was no it wasn't language. It was just this feeling of absolute acceptance and her voice pierced through. And did you recognize any of those beings or was it all through this feeling?

38:00 All through this feeling and the beings were not from this life. It just it was as if it may have been some of them may have been because I do past life regression with clients now. So I understand that it may have been from different times on this planet, but it was also from other places. So if we understand that that Hubble telescope takes photographs of hundreds of billions of galaxies around us, you can understand that we've been other places as well. And I felt that I could connect with them and they were from other places.

38:44 Not here. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. And were they did they fit? And I know you're trying to figure out how to interpret all these feelings, but you said it felt like coming home. So did they feel like family or like some kind of angelic beings that you didn't know or you somehow knew them? Definitely. I definitely knew them. I definitely knew them. Okay. I definitely knew them. It was and it was from other times that I knew them from, but not this life. So it was other planets, other beings wherever, but it was definitely a connection there. But it wasn't only the connection with those ones there.

39:25 Do you know what I mean? I felt like I was connected to everything. Much bigger than them. Much but they were there as like the welcoming party at the start. And it gave me huge calmness, huge understanding and acceptance. And many of us can become fearful of death or transitioning to that other side. But after that experience, I understood that there's just no hatred there. There's no ego. There's nothing. There's just intense love.

40:07 And so I've become quite calm with everything now and understand that this experience and so many others after that was all happened for a reason, which is my purpose to understand. And now I do what I do. But it was there was no voices. It was much it was much more sophisticated and complex on all feeling and emotion. The voice that I heard was her cutting through all of that coming from a different direction.

40:51 And I suppose if just talking about it now, because we're talking about putting a fair bit of energy into this, it was as if that's all I because I spent because I'm 54. At the time this happened, which was quite 20 years ago, I'd say I was 34 years old. At the time it happened, all I knew was language so I could relate to it. And it was as if, oh, OK, there's something I can relate to. And so I sort of felt like I was following what I already knew instead of what's all this feeling stuff.

41:32 You know what I mean? And so it probably gave me more confidence to come back to her voice rather than going where I was going. So I think you might have answered something there for me. I felt like I wasn't in control at all. But just talking about it, maybe this is that's what brought me back was the fact that I felt familiar with a voice. And that's why I chose to come back. That's a that's really opened my mind up to something there. Well, I think that's so beautiful. The feelings of welcome home. And that means something different to everybody. But let's picture what the very best meaning of that could be.

42:15 And that was all that was. It was just all the very best of everything that you haven't even experienced happiness in this life. The experience of joy and happiness and such intense love. And you know, when you think of someone that you could not live without and you have that swelling in your heart, it was like that, but magnified a million times more because I felt I was connected with everything out there that felt like that. So it's wherever it is and whether we all go out there together and hang around the same area, I don't know.

42:55 But it's nothing to be afraid of. But we're here for a purpose. We're here for a reason, and it's what I found after all of this. And we'll talk about it in a second if we've got time, if we still got some time on what our purpose is and why we go through such significant challenges, depression, anxiety, happiness is because that part of us outside of this is my understanding anyway, outside of this life is this is what we want us to experience. And it all started making sense after that.

43:37 So if you could encapsulate it into a nutshell, a one or two sentences, why would you say we are here on earth? What's our purpose? Well what I found, take a couple more than one or two sentences, but what I found was that time didn't exist. There was no time out there. We've created time here. Yeah, the sun, the moon, it goes around this world, but out there, there's no world that's much bigger than that. There's universal connection. So it was if time did not exist, it was just love and happiness. I think we come in here to experience limitations.

44:18 And during those limitations, or the limited time I should say, is we need to experience whatever we've chosen to experience prior to coming here. So the challenges, we say good times and bad times. Now I don't see anything as being a bad. It's just a challenge that I am here this time to try and overcome. And then it's allowed me to turn my entire vision around on positive and negative, where negativity doesn't exist if I don't want it to.

45:00 I can create, and then I've studied a lot of quantum theory, quantum mechanics, where we are creators at that state before this life. The negativity comes from other people, other environments, whatever has been created by man. Beyond that, negativity doesn't exist. They're just challenges. They're things for us to learn from. And I understand we're here to learn, we're here to love, and we're here to teach. So to sum it up in a couple of sentences, it's a bit hard, but I just found that we've chosen this.

45:46 This is why we're here. We're here to experience it. What we think is real is only it's like we're in a fish bowl living out the life of a fish, where there's bigger worlds outside of it, or this bigger part of energy, universal energy, and is outside of it, all looking in, just seeing what we're doing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. Oh, I could spend a whole other hour with you, and we may come back to you in a few months and do that. This has been really enjoyable. I want to hear just sort of the postlude on what happened.

46:26 So just for people, if they're kind of scratching their heads going, wait, did this really happen? So Greg's on this Navy ship, which runs over him. How big is this ship, roughly? How many feet long, meters long? I don't know. Maybe 120 meters long. Maybe it's like a frigate. It's a Navy frigate. So it's like, you know, you've got big ships. It's got a big gun on the front and it's got torpedo tubes outside and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So like nearly 400 feet long. So that runs you over and then your rescue boats decide to run you over to just for good measure and you survive all that.

47:09 They get you on board. They warm you up. And I would think they would keep you in some kind of a sick bay hospital on the ship thing and watch you all night. But they just, hey, go to your bunk, strap yourself in. You're good to go. And then the next day they probably helicoptered you back to Australia and put a drink with an umbrella in it by you and said, hey, enjoy the next few weeks. Right? Is that what happened? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'll jump in quickly there. No, actually, six hours later, I was in a helicopter jumping out of the helicopter landing on another ship and we took that ship and we sailed it back.

47:52 So it was as if nothing happened. It was just a story. And then I went through my military career. I left. I joined the police. I went through a lot of trauma, I suppose, as a policeman. But what I found is what I found at that time at that NBE is that when your body goes under stress, everything slowed down. Now, whether I had experienced that and connected with it at the time of my NDE, which then allowed me to use it as a policeman, everything would slow down.

48:35 And I'd be able to retain all the information, who was where, what was happening, and have massive descriptions on what people look like, their skin color, their eye color, whatever, because my world would slow down. And I was becoming more open to perceive what was going on around me. So that was OK. Went through that. Left police. Got into real estate. Did really, really well. But then all of a sudden, I was driving into a car park, an underground car park, where it gets dark. And we're at the little boom gate to pay your money and go in.

49:16 And I had that same feeling. I flashed back. And that blackness, that black liquid starts coming over my eyes again. And I start going through the same experience 12 years later. And so I panic. Obviously, I'm dying again. And it's as if I was reliving it. And I went through the fight, flight, freeze mode. I thought this time I'm getting the hell out. I leave my car there and I run for my life. And then this manifested and got worse and more and happened more and more and more. And it got so bad after so many years.

49:56 I was going to psychologists, trying to work out why I was reliving this moment and getting triggered. And it got so bad, I couldn't enter into shopping centers with my kids. If I did not see an exit, I couldn't go. And that would breed self-doubt, anxiety, depression, suicidal, trying to escape it. And they'd say, oh, dad's having another incident. And it was like... Everything that goes with PTSD we're experiencing. Yeah. And it wasn't until I discovered unconscious mind coaching and hypnotherapy that fixed it so quickly.

50:36 That's why I do what I do now. Because I got able to fix me. I studied intensely. And now that's what I do. I help... Originally started with veterans, but now civilians, everyone I'm helping all around the world, release the emotions that they attach to those events. Because that's all it is. Eric, there's no good and bad that happens in the world. There's just things that happen. We make them good or bad by the emotions we attach to them. So if they're bad and they come back and they're haunting me, I can go back today, well after the event, unconsciously, because it remembers everything we've been through, you're unconscious.

51:20 And we release the emotions attached to it and it no longer bothers us today. PTSD, depression, anxiety, self-doubt, toxic relationships, all these things I now understand. And so that was why I had to go through what I went through, is for me to go through the stages and steps to now be able to assist humans release all the stuff from their past so they can have a happier future. So if anyone's listening to this and says, well, why am I going through all this crap? Why is so many bad things happening to me?

52:01 That's for a reason. Look at what the reason is. Look at a positive. Turn it into a positive. And then you can start living your true purpose because everyone goes through something different, don't they? And if I could sum it up, that's what I would suggest is that everyone's here for a reason, for a purpose. If we stop looking at as bad things and negatively as if why is this happening, even after the years of PTSD and all that stuff, now I can help people that are going through the same thing. So whatever you've lived, Eric, or anyone that's listening, there's a reason that's happening.

52:42 Look for what it is and you might be able to help others that are going through worse than you. So I hope you enjoyed my story. Oh, my goodness. It was amazing. I was on the edge of my seat and I could literally picture what was going on. You are good at telling it. Thank you. I think now because I'm so connected with that on that unconscious level, it all makes sense now. And so I can dissect it without getting too emotional about it because I release those emotions. I do remember that voice though that brought me back and that's the same thing that still gets me choked up when I tell the story.

53:23 But I've so enjoyed spending time with you and your listeners. I'm always here to help everyone if they want to reach out. We will put in our show notes how to get a hold of you if anybody wants to. And they can find those attached to this episode. And Greg, thanks again. I wish we had another hour to spend with you. We'll do it down the road sometime. But awesome time tonight. Thank you. Eric, it's an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much. Sending you lots of love, love and energy. That's all it's about now. And that's what I understand. I love it and I need it. Thank you.

54:07 If you have had a round trip death experience, we would love to hear about it. Send an email to eric at roundtripdeath.com. And lastly, if you have found this program uplifting, if it's given you just a little more hope in the future, share it with a friend, hit that follow button and take a few seconds to write us a review. Until next time, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the next.