#219 - I Was Run Over By A Navy Ship! - Greg's Near Death Experience

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One of life's greatest questions is what happens to us after we die?

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Is death the end or a new beginning?

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Welcome to the Round Trip Death Podcast.

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In this show, we listen to first-hand accounts of people who have gone beyond the veil and

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return to talk about it.

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Today our featured guests not only had an interesting near-death experience, but one

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of the most spectacular accidents you will ever hear, as he was actually run over by

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a large Navy ship in the freezing Antarctic Ocean.

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How did it happen?

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And how did he make it back?

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We are about to find out.

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So we are honored to have with us today on the podcast, Greg Keely from Australia.

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Greg, how are you?

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Absolutely fantastic, Eric.

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Thank you for the opportunity.

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I'm looking forward to sharing my experience and hopefully it might help some people get

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through some struggles that they have been as I did from mine.

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Would you mind giving us, before you tell us what led up to your near-death experience,

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tell us just a little bit about you and your background so we can get to know you some?

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Yeah, fantastic.

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All right.

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So I was born in Sydney, Australia back in 1968 and grew up a child of the 80s in Australia,

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which was pretty cool.

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You know, normal sort of a family.

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It wasn't until much later in adult life that I found out that I had what was called a narcissistic

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father.

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However, that led to pretty much the NDE that we'll talk about and my careers, many, many

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careers.

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I ended up having about 41 career changes in my life through this self-sabotage, one

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of them which was in the military, which we'll talk about and where the NDE occurred.

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I've moved all the way up the East Coast of Australia, up and back, and now I live in

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a place called the Sunshine Coast, which is, I suppose, similar to the Florida sort of

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a weather, but it's got lots of lovely surf beaches and I surf every single day for my

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own mental health and absolutely love it.

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I've got a very patient wife of 25 years who went through all my thermals of self-sabotage

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and she's still there, which is fantastic.

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I've got two boys, one's 21 and the other one's 18.

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Wow, surfing every day, that's not a bad life.

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It's winter down there right now, so does that mean you have bigger waves?

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We do have bigger waves and we get to wear a wetsuit, but this is why I moved here.

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I've moved all the way up and down the East Coast of Australia.

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I've been over to the West Coast a couple of times and that's where this NDE took place,

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but it is bigger waves in the winter and I absolutely just love it.

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It helps me be grounded and it's something I think everyone should do is find something

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that they love and be able to do it as much as they can because it's amazing how much

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more happier life becomes.

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I could not agree more.

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That's fantastic.

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Before you get into the lead up to your NDE, would you mind just almost giving us a little

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teaser, just a teeny glint as to what you saw or experienced in your NDE without telling

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us the whole story?

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Then we're going to get to the lead up because the lead up is absolutely amazing.

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For people that haven't heard your story, you are going to be blown away with what happened

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to Greg.

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Tease us first.

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All right.

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Actually, I ended up having two in the one evening and you'll understand it when I go

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into more depth.

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I did see and feel other entities, but they weren't from this life.

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It must have been from another time, another place.

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The biggest thing that I took away from it was the love that I felt there.

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I was sort of torn.

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I had absolutely no control of which direction I was going, but the lead up to it will definitely

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allow me to explain it in much more detail.

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Okay.

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I'll let you fill in more details in a few minutes.

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You were in the Royal Australian Navy.

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Set the stage.

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What in the world happened?

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All right.

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I joined the Royal Australian Navy as a clearance diver.

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It's similar to your Navy SEALs over there and we did a lot of underwater ship attacks.

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We did deep water mine clearances, explosives.

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We did a lot of dry land explosive, ordnance disposal.

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We've got a couple of different ranks and different entities in different militaries.

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I suppose the clearance diver is classified as a special forces in the Navy.

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I got to work with some of the most amazing men in the Army.

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They have what was called the SAS Regiment, Special Air Service Regiment, that are the

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elite of Australia's military.

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I managed to work with them for six months over in Western Australia, the other side.

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We went over there, did a lot of work ups, jumping out of helicopters, a lot of ship

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sporting.

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Our task was to head down from Western Australia all the way down to the Antarctic Ocean because

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Australia's waters, Australian waters down there in the Antarctic Ocean.

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There's a lot of illegal vessels down there trafficking, fishing, doing things that they

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shouldn't.

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We were the first mission to go down there with a combined Army and Navy.

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I'll set the scene for you.

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It's 2 a.m. in the morning.

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The seas are huge.

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I believe I was told they were 17-meter seas, so they were much higher than the ship.

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It was so cold that when the waves would hit the side of the hull of the ship, the water

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would instantly freeze.

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It looked like it was snowing upwards.

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It was quite a bizarre event and an experience.

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Now, at 2 a.m., we get the call that we have to get to boarding stations.

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Because it was so cold, we couldn't go by helicopter because the rotors were all frosted

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up.

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What we would do is they would launch a boat off the Navy frigate of the ship.

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It was called a rigid inflatable boat, a RIB.

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They would lower it down.

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It was probably about 20-foot long.

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It had these seats in it that everyone sat behind each other.

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Basically, we would end up going from the top of the Navy ship down into the boat.

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They'd lower the boat into the water by a crane.

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The guys would drive it to the side of the ship, and then they would lower a line to

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the front of the boat.

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They had a bowman, a guy at the front.

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He would clip on the rope, and then the guy that was driving the boat would take the accelerator

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off the engine, and the boat would pull up alongside the ship because the ship was still

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doing about 10 knots, which is about 10 miles per hour through this massive sea.

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So, if you can imagine the ships going at 10 knots and this small boat being pulled

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alongside, does that make sense?

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Yes, but I cannot imagine them doing this in, you said 17-meter waves, so that's like

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50 feet, if my math is right.

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50-foot waves in a little tiny, what we call a zodiac kind of boat.

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Yeah, it could take probably about 11 or 12 people sitting back to front or front to back,

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and there's a center console where a guy would be driving it.

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It had two big engines on the back.

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That's insane.

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They couldn't wait for it to calm down a little bit.

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I don't know what happened up at the top there with the decisions.

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I was just one of the fellows that had to do the job.

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But I do understand what you're saying.

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It's a fair question to ask.

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I get it.

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That's just crazy.

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We think of these super tough Australian guys and there you were.

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I mean, you're probably eating snakes for dinner and stuff.

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It was definitely a challenge.

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Like anyone that might be ex-military or emergency services, police, or paramedics or fire, when

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you're trained to do something, you just do it.

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You don't sit there and try and rationalize.

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You just have to do it.

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So anyway, what we would do is we had to get from the top of the Navy ship, the frigate,

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down into the boat that's being towed alongside.

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It's going up and down with the big waves, obviously.

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But the rope that it's attached to is pulling it alongside the ship.

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So it's sort of sucked in alongside the ship as the ship's going forward.

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Now usually, you see people that would climb down a ladder to a boat that's being towed

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alongside, but it takes too long.

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And of course, with the boat going up and down so much, we had to compromise and get

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into the boat as fast as possible.

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So you may have seen on the news or with the military throwing out of a helicopter.

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It's called a fast rope.

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It's a really thick, fluffy rope.

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And they throw it down.

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So we've got it from the top of the Navy frigate going down the side of the ship.

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And the end of the rope sits in the boat that's being towed alongside.

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So we would jump off the side of the ship and fly down, almost like a controlled or

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a directional descent.

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And we would land at the bottom of the boat.

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And then that person would move to the back.

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And then the next guy would jump down.

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So it was like they call it a stick, a stick of guys just flying down.

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And so you go from it was about 30 feet drop.

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And you couldn't stop because the ropes went, but it's guides you instead of jumping overboard.

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It guides you into the boat that's being towed alongside.

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You're following?

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Yeah, I was wondering, I was going to ask you how high that was.

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But you told us that's 30 feet now.

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Of course, when the waves go down, that's probably even a little bit higher.

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But OK, so you've got it.

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How cold is the water, by the way?

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I don't know, but it was it was it was probably around the zero temperature, around the zero

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to two degrees, maybe to combat the weather.

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We had to wear big snow suits.

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So we had a big snow suits on big heavy boots.

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We had automatic weapons in a rifle format.

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Plus I had pistols, a few quite a lot of ammunition.

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I also had a backpack on which had three days ration.

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So when we took the ship, we could stay on it.

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And then I also had a large sledgehammer strapped to my back to bash indoors in case we had

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to get into locked compartments and commandeer the ship to take control of it and then guide

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it back to Australia, to Australia, the land.

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So I was very heavily laden with equipment.

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Yeah.

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How much does all that weigh, would you say?

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I don't.

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If I had to guess, it would probably be around 20 to 30 kilos on top of my my body weight.

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OK, so another 50, 60 pounds.

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OK, plus the big suit you're wearing.

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Yeah.

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So you'll understand why this all happened with this big suit that I was wearing when

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I go into my store a bit more.

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So you're about to jump, grab a rope that's wet, icy and just very gradually go down to

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the nice little boat.

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Yeah, it sounds good.

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So there was two boats.

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So the first lot of guys, about seven of them or eight of them, they jump into the first

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boat and then the guy on the sailor on the helm that's driving it would motor it forward

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and the guy at the front, the bow would unclip the hook that's hooked onto the boat and they

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then would pull away from the ship and then go to the rear and sit behind the back of

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the ship on the stern, right, and follow behind it.

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Then they lowered a second boat, which would do the same.

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They drove up alongside it, hooked on the shackle at the front, and then they sort of

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they just called sweating back.

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They just take the the throttle off and it pulls the boat alongside.

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And as luck would have it, I'm the first man down that rope into the second boat.

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So I look at the guy next to me who's in charge.

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He gives me a chop with his hand.

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He goes, right, go, Greg.

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So I jump out overboard and start flying down this road.

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Now the universe works in mysterious ways.

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So the side of the ship was struck by an incredibly large wave, which hit the boat that was being

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towed alongside and pushed it outwards as I was sliding down the road and the shackle

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that was pulling that small boat alongside snapped.

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So it started going backwards and my the rope then was went out of the boat into the water.

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And so I flew all the way from the top 30 foot down straight into the Antarctic Ocean.

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And I was hanging on the side of the rope, getting towed alongside the ship at 10 miles

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an hour.

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So I'm hanging on this rope and I'm looking up at this massive gray wall in front of me,

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which is the side of the ship, and I'm seeing all these bodies up there starting to panic

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because I've gone overboard.

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And I'm hanging on to the rope, getting towed alongside with the with all that weight, the

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snowsuit filling up with water, all the boots and all that sort of stuff.

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And the guy that was in the little boat that was being towed alongside, he's seen what's

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happened.

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So he accelerates and brings the boat up right next to me as I'm being towed alongside the

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ship.

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And the bowman who's at the front of the boat is yelling at me to let go of the rope I'm

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hanging on to and hang on to the side of the boat.

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So I did that because my I was slowly going under.

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And so I let go of that and I hung on to the side of the boat.

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Now what he should have done, the guy that was driving it is stop.

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Right.

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But he didn't.

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He was going forwards, and in which case I was getting towed along the front of the boat

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and my body was going under the boat.

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Does that make sense?

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It's terrifying.

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So I'm looking at yes, I'm looking up at this guy and he says, he's saying, don't let go.

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He's screaming at me, don't let go.

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But I'm weighted down.

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We're doing 10 knots.

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And I'm getting dragged under the boat.

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My fingers slowly start prying open.

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And I'm looking up at this guy and my last ditch hope and my fingers just let go and

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I go underwater.

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So I remember going underwater and it was so cold that I sort of my body automatically

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just gasped and I sucked in a lot of freezing cold water, which which felt like it was freezing

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my throat.

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And I popped up on the surface coughing up all the water that I swallowed by that time.

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And I looked around and the boat that I went under was gone.

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He bugged out.

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And I was alongside the ship.

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So the ship's sailing along and there's me sitting in the water next to it.

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And I remember seeing this massive gray wall in front of me.

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And I've looked down the side of it and I saw this this huge churning of foam at the

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back of the ship where the propellers are turning.

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So the propellers rotate outside in and I'm going towards it.

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I'm trying to push myself out panic starting to come into my my thought process here that

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I'm about to get chopped up by the propellers.

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So I'm wearing all this gear.

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I'm pushing away from the ship.

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But because it's moving forward, the wake, the wave of the ship is just sucking me into

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the side of the hull.

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Yeah, sure.

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So I'm getting quite close to this foaming at the back of the ship, the stern there.

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And I'm in the panic starting to really take me.

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And all of a sudden I get sucked underwater by the propellers.

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So instant blackness because it's nighttime.

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My eyeballs were freezing.

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I was sucking in a lot of water and I was thrashing my arms and legs as hard as and

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fast as I could.

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As we do through that, you know, we went through the go through the fight, the flight or the

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freeze.

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I was fighting for my life at this stage.

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I get sucked under the ship and my right, the ball of my right foot hits something hard.

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So it must have been the hull.

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And I pushed off with all my might.

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And all of a sudden I felt this freedom like there was I was no longer getting turned around

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like I was in a washing machine.

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And so I started struggling with my arms upwards to the top of the surface of the water.

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And I popped up on the surface in at 2am in 17 meter squeeze.

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And I remember seeing the back of the Navy ship slowly leaving me.

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And I felt this relief because I hadn't been chopped up by the propellers.

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Yeah, I have a feeling I know what's coming next.

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Yeah.

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So so you're going to may I was all of a sudden I was I felt quite free of that.

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And I felt quite relieved.

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And then reality came back with how am I going to stay up on the surface here?

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So I start trying to tread water with my arms and my legs.

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I've got my weapons, my backpack, my sledgehammer, my suit, which is really heavy.

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And I had communications in my ear.

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And I could hear the panic on all the people on the ship saying man overboard.

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And they were talking to the guys in the small boats that they'd left behind.

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And I heard them saying we can see him, we can see him.

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We've got we've identified him.

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And I'm and I'm turning around on the top of the water trying to stay above it, but

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trying to see them.

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And then I've seen them in the distance.

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This boat.

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And it's full of the first boats full of the guys that were in it.

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And they they come flying towards me.

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They're going to rescue me.

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Okay.

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However, the swell the seas are so big.

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He's surfing down the side of this wave totally uncontrolled, uncontrollable.

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And he's run straight over the top of me.

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And I had on like a little state a preschooler pro tech helmets, a little bit of foam helmet.

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He's hit that and pushed me underwater.

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And the propellers gone over and quit the top of the helmet there.

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And it's probably pushed me a couple of meters, which is, I don't know, I don't know what

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about five, six feet underwater.

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And I started sucking in a lot of water, struggling to get back to the surface.

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So I got back to the surface.

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Panic was just, you know, it was uncontrollable.

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The panic is just the fight, fight for your life sort of mode.

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I got back up to the surface.

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I was coughing and spluttering.

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And I heard on this, this communications in my ear, the boat I was supposed to get in,

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they've now seen me and they say we can get him.

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Same things happen.

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They've run straight over me and pushed me under.

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So I've been done.

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I'm like a tea bag getting done underneath the Antarctic Ocean here in the cold water.

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And I struggled back up to the surface, found my way up to the top there.

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And I've seen the two boats just circling me now trying to do the best they can in this

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uncontrollable water to get to me.

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And I'm looking at them going around in circles myself trying to keep an eye on them.

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And it was like it was everything just started slowing down.

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My arms became very heavy because of the cold and all my joints started stiffening up.

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Because what tends to happen is when we go and are submerged into extreme cold, the blood

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leaves our extremities and congregates around our organs to try and protect us.

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So all of a sudden, I feel that it's very difficult to tread water.

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And my head keeps going underwater.

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I'm drinking a lot of water.

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I'm struggling to get back up.

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This lasted what seemed to be 10 weeks, right?

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But it was only about four or five minutes, I believe.

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Kept going on.

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And then I just couldn't get back up to the surface.

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It was as if I could see the reflection on the water.

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It was like the moon or something was up there.

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And it was just beyond reach.

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It was like I was struggling to get above the water.

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And it was a different world up there.

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So and my joints had just stopped working.

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So I started sinking.

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Don't you have some kind of a life jacket on?

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I did.

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I had what's called a special forces life jacket on.

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And it only works if you pull the toggle.

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So during my time, good question, that actually, during my time of struggling up the top, I

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was trying to find the toggle.

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But when I had got sucked under the ship, it had all ripped.

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So it just it wasn't, it was all torn anyway.

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And I couldn't find that.

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So as yeah, good question, because it was going through my mind, where is this bloody

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jacket?

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Right?

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So so anyway, I'm sinking and I'm sucking in a lot of water.

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My eyes are open blackness because of the water.

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And I remember my throat.

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It was as if I was sucking in this freezing cold liquid that was freezing my throat.

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And the panic, the panic was was extreme.

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It was the worst it obviously it could ever be.

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And then this was my first trip to the quantum side was I found this calmness come over me.

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And it was as if I had been all of a sudden wrapped in this warm blanket.

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And I felt this warmth and this comfort that the panic, there's no need panicking anymore.

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It's just everything's okay.

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And so as I was sinking down, I felt as if this black liquid like this, it came over

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my eyes as if it went from the blackness of the water to a much deeper darkness.

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But the calmness throughout that as well.

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And I went to a place that I can only describe as being a transitional place between life

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and quantum or death, whatever you want to call it.

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And it was calm.

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It was just so calm.

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Blackness I didn't see any lights or anything like that.

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It was just this calmness and this relief and release.

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And what I felt at that stage and I only started understanding this when I started telling

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the story many years later, I started to understand that I didn't actually exist as Greg Keighley.

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I'd had experienced things and I had appreciated them in my life, but it's as if Greg Keighley

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didn't exist.

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Does that make sense?

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It's like I went to the, I was going to this other side and I didn't have any thoughts

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of family, friends or me or what I looked like or anything.

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It was just experiences in life.

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So that seemed to have lasted a long time.

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That blackness.

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And then almost as if someone shone a light in my eyes, I'm on the boat, the first boat

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of guys and they're all standing above me and I've come to, I've come back to life wherever

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I was.

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Right.

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How did you get to the boat, onto the boat?

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So here's the, they're going around me and I start sinking, going off on my own journey.

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They jump in the water, two of them jump in the water.

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They create what's like a human chain arm to leg and they've created this chain underneath

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the water and they're thrashing around in the blackness.

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And one of the guys whose name was Matt, he grabs the back of my backpack in the blackness,

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grabs it, pulls himself up to the next guy and they pull the, all of them back up onto

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the surface.

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The boat stopped and they, there's seven or eight of them, they lift me out of the water,

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I'm unconscious wherever I am, into the boat.

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And then they all get back in the boat and I come back.

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So all of a sudden I'm back on the boat and it's as if where I'd just been and what had

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just happened didn't happen.

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It was, okay, here we are, let's go and let's go on the mission.

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Let's get this boat.

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I'm saying to the other guys, okay, let's go.

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What's going on?

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Not knowing what just happened.

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So I didn't really acknowledge what had happened.

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And they're talking saying to the Bain frigate, the ship, to the officers saying he wants

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to continue on the mission.

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Can we keep going?

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And they said, no, no, no, you bring him back.

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So my boat comes alongside the one I missed.

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I stand up, get over from this boat onto the other one, which apparently you shouldn't

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do and I'll talk to that, talk to you about that in a second.

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Because remembering that all my blood had left my extremities and gathered around my

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organs to try and keep them going for as long as possible.

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So when you have what's called hypothermia and your body temperature drops, this is what

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your blood does.

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So getting up, moving around creates the blood to leave the organs and get back to the extremities,

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your hands and your feet, and usually you would drop dead from shock because the blood

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then leaves it.

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Your body goes into shock and you die.

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However, this didn't happen to me.

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I was totally oblivious to all the safety procedures.

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And I'm let's go get this ship because that's how you're trained.

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I didn't even know that I'd screwed up the mission, which I suffered for later.

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I got ridiculed for many years after that.

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But I just thought, OK, we've got to keep going.

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So the boat comes alongside, they launch, they winch it back up to the ship.

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I climb over the side and there's all these officers there, male and female, and they

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throw me into the wardroom, which is their main room, like their lounge, and they've

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created an emergency area there.

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And they've taken my temperature and my body temperature was 34 degrees Celsius.

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Now normally we sit at 37 degrees Celsius.

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I don't know what temperature that is in Fahrenheit.

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To Fahrenheit is 93.2 degrees.

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So you were a good five plus degrees in Fahrenheit lower than you should be.

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So they're obviously stressing about this.

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And so they start taking off all my gear.

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And then comes my next experience where I just drop to the ground and become unresponsive.

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So that's what they see.

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What happened with me is I don't remember falling to the ground.

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All of a sudden I transitioned straight back to where I was in that blackness.

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But this time I see, I feel, I didn't really, yeah, I could see silhouettes.

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I close my eyes, I can go back there because this is what I do now.

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I do a lot of hypnotherapy and unconscious coaching.

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So I can close my eyes and go back there.

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And I see the silhouettes of a lot of figures and they may have been 12 or 13 of them, almost

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in a line.

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And they're pointing away from me toward, past them, towards this other dark darkness.

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And I could feel what they were saying.

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They were so excited.

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There was such excitement there as if I was coming back from being away.

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And I felt this overwhelming love of just, it's hard to explain, but I felt this overwhelming

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love that I'm finally back where I should be.

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You know what I mean?

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It's like, thank you, Greg didn't exist.

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It was like I said before, same thing.

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I didn't exist in this life.

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I didn't see my body.

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I didn't see the people in it.

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I just felt these entities, they're very big, very tall.

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And they were from somewhere else, not from this life.

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I just had no connection with this life at all.

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I started getting, like I was drifting towards them.

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There was no control, as I mentioned at the start of this.

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I was just going towards them.

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And there was just such intense love.

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It wasn't inside me.

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It was sort of all around me.

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It was everywhere.

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And it was like they were applauding and clapping and saying, yeah, come with us, come back,

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come back.

471
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,280
And I was just going in that direction.

472
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Then I start hearing a voice.

473
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,300
And the voice was so soothing.

474
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:09,200
And I might get a bit emotional here every time I talk about this voice.

475
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:16,600
It was a voice that was saying, it's OK, you can come back now.

476
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,640
Sorry, I get a bit emotional.

477
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,800
So every time I talk about it, I can hear it.

478
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,640
And it's, you can come back to us now, come back.

479
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,880
And it was so soft and so much love in this voice.

480
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,640
But it wasn't in the direction that they were leading me.

481
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:44,080
It was in over mountains and mountains and mountains of distance away.

482
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,080
And there wasn't mountains.

483
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,080
There wasn't light.

484
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,660
There was just darkness.

485
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:51,160
And I felt myself pause.

486
00:33:51,160 --> 00:34:03,600
And that voice just was so amazingly attractive to me and loving to me that it just got louder

487
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,600
and closer.

488
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,680
And it kept repeating over and over.

489
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,160
It's OK, darling was coming in.

490
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:15,520
Darling, it's OK, you can come back.

491
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,440
And sorry, I'm about to cry as I'm saying this.

492
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,600
And it was so intense.

493
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:30,360
And all of a sudden, I start feeling some things in my body.

494
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,080
And I'm feeling a stroking on my right hand, and that voice was just over and over.

495
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:42,480
And it actually was a female officer that was talking to me and guiding me back.

496
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,320
It was just amazing.

497
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:52,040
And as I felt her, it was almost as if it was on my right side because she was holding

498
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,080
my right hand.

499
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,280
And I looked over to the other side of my left and I saw all those entities there, the

500
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,480
figures.

501
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:09,920
And they were just standing there, not disappointed, but almost as if they just understood it's

502
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,400
OK.

503
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:17,680
And so I come back and I open my eyes and there's this lady where she's got a mask over

504
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,680
her face.

505
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,160
She had a hat on.

506
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:29,200
She was dressed in scrubs, like blue sort of, I don't know what they wear in theatres

507
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,520
and stuff, but she wore in the Navy ship.

508
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,560
And she's kept saying to me, it's OK, darling, you're here now, you're here, you're back.

509
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:45,840
And slowly, when I regained consciousness and could understand where I was, I was actually

510
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:52,680
lying on the floor and they put over a plastic blanket on me that was pumping in warm air

511
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,040
to try and bring my body temperature back.

512
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:02,960
And so this took a while and my body temperature came back and they said, are you OK?

513
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,960
And I said, yeah, yeah, I'm fine.

514
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:12,160
So I went back down to my rack, my bed, my bunk and lay down.

515
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,000
I just strapped yourself in because the ship was going up so high with the waves and then

516
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,880
come crashing down that you had to strap yourself into the bunk.

517
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,520
And I remember thinking what just happened?

518
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,200
Like that was quite bizarre.

519
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,500
What was all that about?

520
00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:35,320
And it was as if it was something I'd read in a book or maybe watched on a movie very

521
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,320
briefly.

522
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,120
But it seemed to have lasted a long time.

523
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,760
OK, let me ask you a couple of questions and we'll go on to what happened after this voice

524
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:51,440
that you heard that you described is really calm and soothing.

525
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,920
Was that the woman's voice the whole time or was it more of like a voice from God at

526
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,800
some point or was it her just coming through to wherever you were?

527
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,640
Yeah, perfect question.

528
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,360
So that was her coming through.

529
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:11,560
I felt there was no voices in that transition stage.

530
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:18,880
It was just feelings, feelings of welcome home, feelings of excitement.

531
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,720
Yes, you know, we can be together again.

532
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:27,640
And it was all of the entities there, but it was something so much bigger as well.

533
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:35,040
So it felt like I had returned home to a massive family gathering and they were all excited.

534
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:41,680
And it was like the big grandpa at the top of the head of the table was there and everyone

535
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,680
else.

536
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,760
But it was there was no it wasn't language.

537
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:55,200
It was just this feeling of absolute acceptance and her voice pierced through.

538
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,800
And did you recognize any of those beings or was it all through this feeling?

539
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:06,160
All through this feeling and the beings were not from this life.

540
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:13,240
It just it was as if it may have been some of them may have been because I do past life

541
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:14,440
regression with clients now.

542
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,520
So I understand that it may have been from different times on this planet, but it was

543
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,160
also from other places.

544
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:30,080
So if we understand that that Hubble telescope takes photographs of hundreds of billions

545
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:36,800
of galaxies around us, you can understand that we've been other places as well.

546
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:44,100
And I felt that I could connect with them and they were from other places.

547
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:45,100
Not here.

548
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:46,440
Does that make sense?

549
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,980
Yes, it does.

550
00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:49,960
And were they did they fit?

551
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:55,140
And I know you're trying to figure out how to interpret all these feelings, but you said

552
00:38:55,140 --> 00:38:56,760
it felt like coming home.

553
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:03,840
So did they feel like family or like some kind of angelic beings that you didn't know

554
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,520
or you somehow knew them?

555
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,520
Definitely.

556
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,520
I definitely knew them.

557
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,520
I definitely knew them.

558
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,520
Okay.

559
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,520
I definitely knew them.

560
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,160
It was and it was from other times that I knew them from, but not this life.

561
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:22,760
So it was other planets, other beings wherever, but it was definitely a connection there.

562
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,240
But it wasn't only the connection with those ones there.

563
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:26,880
Do you know what I mean?

564
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,600
I felt like I was connected to everything.

565
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,160
Much bigger than them.

566
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:39,360
Much but they were there as like the welcoming party at the start.

567
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:48,520
And it gave me huge calmness, huge understanding and acceptance.

568
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:55,280
And many of us can become fearful of death or transitioning to that other side.

569
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:01,960
But after that experience, I understood that there's just no hatred there.

570
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,960
There's no ego.

571
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,960
There's nothing.

572
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,680
There's just intense love.

573
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:15,720
And so I've become quite calm with everything now and understand that this experience and

574
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:24,320
so many others after that was all happened for a reason, which is my purpose to understand.

575
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,080
And now I do what I do.

576
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,520
But it was there was no voices.

577
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:43,240
It was much it was much more sophisticated and complex on all feeling and emotion.

578
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:51,520
The voice that I heard was her cutting through all of that coming from a different direction.

579
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,800
And I suppose if just talking about it now, because we're talking about putting a fair

580
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:03,720
bit of energy into this, it was as if that's all I because I spent because I'm 54.

581
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:10,720
At the time this happened, which was quite 20 years ago, I'd say I was 34 years old.

582
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:16,200
At the time it happened, all I knew was language so I could relate to it.

583
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:22,880
And it was as if, oh, OK, there's something I can relate to.

584
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:29,000
And so I sort of felt like I was following what I already knew instead of what's all

585
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,000
this feeling stuff.

586
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,000
You know what I mean?

587
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,320
And so it probably gave me more confidence to come back to her voice rather than going

588
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,240
where I was going.

589
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,480
So I think you might have answered something there for me.

590
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,520
I felt like I wasn't in control at all.

591
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,560
But just talking about it, maybe this is that's what brought me back was the fact that I felt

592
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,520
familiar with a voice.

593
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,920
And that's why I chose to come back.

594
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,400
That's a that's really opened my mind up to something there.

595
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,160
Well, I think that's so beautiful.

596
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,080
The feelings of welcome home.

597
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,320
And that means something different to everybody.

598
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:15,120
But let's picture what the very best meaning of that could be.

599
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,600
And that was all that was.

600
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:23,920
It was just all the very best of everything that you haven't even experienced happiness

601
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,920
in this life.

602
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,880
The experience of joy and happiness and such intense love.

603
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,440
And you know, when you think of someone that you could not live without and you have that

604
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:41,200
swelling in your heart, it was like that, but magnified a million times more because

605
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,240
I felt I was connected with everything out there that felt like that.

606
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:54,440
So it's wherever it is and whether we all go out there together and hang around the

607
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,880
same area, I don't know.

608
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:01,240
But it's nothing to be afraid of.

609
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:02,560
But we're here for a purpose.

610
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,640
We're here for a reason, and it's what I found after all of this.

611
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,360
And we'll talk about it in a second if we've got time, if we still got some time on what

612
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:19,360
our purpose is and why we go through such significant challenges, depression, anxiety,

613
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:27,480
happiness is because that part of us outside of this is my understanding anyway, outside

614
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:34,360
of this life is this is what we want us to experience.

615
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,340
And it all started making sense after that.

616
00:43:37,340 --> 00:43:42,720
So if you could encapsulate it into a nutshell, a one or two sentences, why would you say

617
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,160
we are here on earth?

618
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,160
What's our purpose?

619
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,040
Well what I found, take a couple more than one or two sentences, but what I found was

620
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,640
that time didn't exist.

621
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,680
There was no time out there.

622
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,160
We've created time here.

623
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:03,800
Yeah, the sun, the moon, it goes around this world, but out there, there's no world that's

624
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,960
much bigger than that.

625
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,600
There's universal connection.

626
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,640
So it was if time did not exist, it was just love and happiness.

627
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:18,800
I think we come in here to experience limitations.

628
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,880
And during those limitations, or the limited time I should say, is we need to experience

629
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,960
whatever we've chosen to experience prior to coming here.

630
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:34,120
So the challenges, we say good times and bad times.

631
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,840
Now I don't see anything as being a bad.

632
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:44,160
It's just a challenge that I am here this time to try and overcome.

633
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:54,920
And then it's allowed me to turn my entire vision around on positive and negative, where

634
00:44:54,920 --> 00:45:00,560
negativity doesn't exist if I don't want it to.

635
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:08,720
I can create, and then I've studied a lot of quantum theory, quantum mechanics, where

636
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:18,880
we are creators at that state before this life.

637
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,800
The negativity comes from other people, other environments, whatever has been created by

638
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,400
man.

639
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,560
Beyond that, negativity doesn't exist.

640
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,560
They're just challenges.

641
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,120
They're things for us to learn from.

642
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:38,600
And I understand we're here to learn, we're here to love, and we're here to teach.

643
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:45,480
So to sum it up in a couple of sentences, it's a bit hard, but I just found that we've

644
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,600
chosen this.

645
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,600
This is why we're here.

646
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,560
We're here to experience it.

647
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:57,280
What we think is real is only it's like we're in a fish bowl living out the life of a fish,

648
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:06,120
where there's bigger worlds outside of it, or this bigger part of energy, universal energy,

649
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,400
and is outside of it, all looking in, just seeing what we're doing.

650
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,640
You know what I mean?

651
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:14,640
Yeah.

652
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,640
Okay.

653
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,160
Oh, I could spend a whole other hour with you, and we may come back to you in a few

654
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,640
months and do that.

655
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,040
This has been really enjoyable.

656
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,800
I want to hear just sort of the postlude on what happened.

657
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:32,660
So just for people, if they're kind of scratching their heads going, wait, did this really happen?

658
00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:38,780
So Greg's on this Navy ship, which runs over him.

659
00:46:38,780 --> 00:46:40,640
How big is this ship, roughly?

660
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,720
How many feet long, meters long?

661
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:44,720
I don't know.

662
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:46,640
Maybe 120 meters long.

663
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,120
Maybe it's like a frigate.

664
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,120
It's a Navy frigate.

665
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,600
So it's like, you know, you've got big ships.

666
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,320
It's got a big gun on the front and it's got torpedo tubes outside and all that sort of

667
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,320
stuff.

668
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,320
Yeah.

669
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,320
Yeah.

670
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,840
So like nearly 400 feet long.

671
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,600
So that runs you over and then your rescue boats decide to run you over to just for good

672
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,760
measure and you survive all that.

673
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,580
They get you on board.

674
00:47:11,580 --> 00:47:13,880
They warm you up.

675
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,180
And I would think they would keep you in some kind of a sick bay hospital on the ship thing

676
00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:19,360
and watch you all night.

677
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,840
But they just, hey, go to your bunk, strap yourself in.

678
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,940
You're good to go.

679
00:47:25,940 --> 00:47:35,000
And then the next day they probably helicoptered you back to Australia and put a drink with

680
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,600
an umbrella in it by you and said, hey, enjoy the next few weeks.

681
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,600
Right?

682
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,600
Is that what happened?

683
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,600
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

684
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,600
I'll jump in quickly there.

685
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,060
No, actually, six hours later, I was in a helicopter jumping out of the helicopter landing

686
00:47:48,060 --> 00:47:52,160
on another ship and we took that ship and we sailed it back.

687
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,440
So it was as if nothing happened.

688
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,680
It was just a story.

689
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,520
And then I went through my military career.

690
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,520
I left.

691
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,520
I joined the police.

692
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,400
I went through a lot of trauma, I suppose, as a policeman.

693
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:19,360
But what I found is what I found at that time at that NBE is that when your body goes under

694
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,760
stress, everything slowed down.

695
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:29,560
Now, whether I had experienced that and connected with it at the time of my NDE, which then

696
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:35,160
allowed me to use it as a policeman, everything would slow down.

697
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,580
And I'd be able to retain all the information, who was where, what was happening, and have

698
00:48:40,580 --> 00:48:45,620
massive descriptions on what people look like, their skin color, their eye color, whatever,

699
00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:48,480
because my world would slow down.

700
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:56,600
And I was becoming more open to perceive what was going on around me.

701
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,600
So that was OK.

702
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,600
Went through that.

703
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,600
Left police.

704
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,600
Got into real estate.

705
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,600
Did really, really well.

706
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:08,440
But then all of a sudden, I was driving into a car park, an underground car park, where

707
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,180
it gets dark.

708
00:49:11,180 --> 00:49:16,220
And we're at the little boom gate to pay your money and go in.

709
00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:18,360
And I had that same feeling.

710
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,960
I flashed back.

711
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,840
And that blackness, that black liquid starts coming over my eyes again.

712
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:31,800
And I start going through the same experience 12 years later.

713
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,720
And so I panic.

714
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:36,400
Obviously, I'm dying again.

715
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,640
And it's as if I was reliving it.

716
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,320
And I went through the fight, flight, freeze mode.

717
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,280
I thought this time I'm getting the hell out.

718
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,400
I leave my car there and I run for my life.

719
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:54,280
And then this manifested and got worse and more and happened more and more and more.

720
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,560
And it got so bad after so many years.

721
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,480
I was going to psychologists, trying to work out why I was reliving this moment and getting

722
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,480
triggered.

723
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,880
And it got so bad, I couldn't enter into shopping centers with my kids.

724
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,760
If I did not see an exit, I couldn't go.

725
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:16,480
And that would breed self-doubt, anxiety, depression, suicidal, trying to escape it.

726
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:23,080
And they'd say, oh, dad's having another incident.

727
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,080
And it was like...

728
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,080
Everything that goes with PTSD we're experiencing.

729
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,160
Yeah.

730
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:34,760
And it wasn't until I discovered unconscious mind coaching and hypnotherapy that fixed

731
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,960
it so quickly.

732
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,840
That's why I do what I do now.

733
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,240
Because I got able to fix me.

734
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:43,880
I studied intensely.

735
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,360
And now that's what I do.

736
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,280
I help...

737
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,920
Originally started with veterans, but now civilians, everyone I'm helping all around

738
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:57,680
the world, release the emotions that they attach to those events.

739
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,000
Because that's all it is.

740
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,040
Eric, there's no good and bad that happens in the world.

741
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,200
There's just things that happen.

742
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,120
We make them good or bad by the emotions we attach to them.

743
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:14,600
So if they're bad and they come back and they're haunting me, I can go back today, well after

744
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:20,840
the event, unconsciously, because it remembers everything we've been through, you're unconscious.

745
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,440
And we release the emotions attached to it and it no longer bothers us today.

746
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:33,680
PTSD, depression, anxiety, self-doubt, toxic relationships, all these things I now understand.

747
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:39,800
And so that was why I had to go through what I went through, is for me to go through the

748
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:50,040
stages and steps to now be able to assist humans release all the stuff from their past

749
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,320
so they can have a happier future.

750
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,120
So if anyone's listening to this and says, well, why am I going through all this crap?

751
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,520
Why is so many bad things happening to me?

752
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,440
That's for a reason.

753
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,520
Look at what the reason is.

754
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,920
Look at a positive.

755
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,200
Turn it into a positive.

756
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,320
And then you can start living your true purpose because everyone goes through something different,

757
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,440
don't they?

758
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:22,680
And if I could sum it up, that's what I would suggest is that everyone's here for a reason,

759
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,080
for a purpose.

760
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:29,560
If we stop looking at as bad things and negatively as if why is this happening, even after the

761
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,360
years of PTSD and all that stuff, now I can help people that are going through the same

762
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,360
thing.

763
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:41,160
So whatever you've lived, Eric, or anyone that's listening, there's a reason that's

764
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,160
happening.

765
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,160
Look for what it is and you might be able to help others that are going through worse

766
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,560
than you.

767
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,960
So I hope you enjoyed my story.

768
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,160
Oh, my goodness.

769
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,160
It was amazing.

770
00:52:55,160 --> 00:53:00,160
I was on the edge of my seat and I could literally picture what was going on.

771
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,160
You are good at telling it.

772
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,640
Thank you.

773
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:08,600
I think now because I'm so connected with that on that unconscious level, it all makes

774
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,600
sense now.

775
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:14,040
And so I can dissect it without getting too emotional about it because I release those

776
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,040
emotions.

777
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:21,200
I do remember that voice though that brought me back and that's the same thing that still

778
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,480
gets me choked up when I tell the story.

779
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:29,480
But I've so enjoyed spending time with you and your listeners.

780
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:34,040
I'm always here to help everyone if they want to reach out.

781
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:39,480
We will put in our show notes how to get a hold of you if anybody wants to.

782
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,520
And they can find those attached to this episode.

783
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:43,720
And Greg, thanks again.

784
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:45,760
I wish we had another hour to spend with you.

785
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,080
We'll do it down the road sometime.

786
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,680
But awesome time tonight.

787
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,680
Thank you.

788
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,320
Eric, it's an absolute pleasure.

789
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,320
Thank you so much.

790
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,520
Sending you lots of love, love and energy.

791
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:57,520
That's all it's about now.

792
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:58,520
And that's what I understand.

793
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,520
I love it and I need it.

794
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:07,520
Thank you.

795
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,520
If you have had a round trip death experience, we would love to hear about it.

796
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,240
Send an email to eric at roundtripdeath.com.

797
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:19,560
And lastly, if you have found this program uplifting, if it's given you just a little

798
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:24,760
more hope in the future, share it with a friend, hit that follow button and take a few seconds

799
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,920
to write us a review.

800
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Until next time, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and the

801
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next.