May 18, 2026

13 Near Death Experiences (NDEs) - Greg Halpern's Journey

13 Near Death Experiences (NDEs) - Greg Halpern's Journey
13 Near Death Experiences (NDEs) - Greg Halpern's Journey
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"Go Back, Your Work's Not Done!"

What would it take for you to die — not once, not twice, but thirteen times — and come back with something to show for it?

In this electrifying episode, host Eric Bennett sits down with Greg Halpern, a Chicago-based judo world champion turned serial entrepreneur who has survived 13 Near Death Experiences that would have broken — or simply ended — anyone else.

It starts at age five (NDE #1), when a post-tonsillectomy hemorrhage sends young Greg bleeding into the night and straight into a boundless space of warm, infinite light, where a deep, commanding voice tells him to go back because there's work to do.

Each successive NDE Experience, he explains, felt less like a brush with death and more like a controlled transmission — the universe systematically clearing his mind to receive something extraordinary.

By the time his 12th NDE hits in 2005 — a lungful of chlorine gas from a pool canister that felt like a blowtorch down his throat — Halpern had long stopped expecting to die.

Then came Near Death Experience number thirteen — a ruptured appendix, three days of misdiagnosed food poisoning, a six-hour surgery for full-blown peritonitis, and a fatal over-medication that flatlined him in his hospital bed. What he saw in that darkness was chilling: a vision of global destruction centered on 2023, and an urgent message that he had been sitting on world-changing information for too long.

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From the time that they pronounced me that was

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a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then

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they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I

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could see people screaming and crying But I didn't

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realize that was actually my physical body because

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I was somewhere else The only thing that I could

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feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace

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there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was

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greeted by people I'd known in the past I'm back

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home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.

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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody,

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and a warm welcome to our special guest today,

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Greg Halpern. How are you, Greg? I'm doing great.

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Thanks so much for asking. This is going to be

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so amazing today talking about 13 NDEs. Before

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we jump into it, one minute, we want to get to

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know Greg. Who are you? Well, I'm gonna be 68

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in June and I've been born and raised in the

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Chicago Midwest area and spent about two decades

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in San Diego was my dream But I returned back

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to my roots in Chicago where I was the little

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kid who got picked on story got into martial

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arts Kept struggling to be able to defend myself

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finally My mid teens, I became a national champion,

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and then in late teens, I became an international

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champion in judo and wanted to qualify for the

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Olympics in 80, but that got called off. So I

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got involved in business. Business was of great

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interest to me. In fact, I've become a serial

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entrepreneur, invented crowdfunding in 1998,

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and I've always been intrigued with how things

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work. As early as my second grade teacher's letter

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to my parents said that It actually sounded kind

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of like a referral for a CEO job. And so I was

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always very intrigued with how things work and

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how to make things work in a manner that would

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make lives better, namely my life better first,

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because one of the things that always bothered

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me about people trying to improve life, whether

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it be health, happiness, wealth, or purpose,

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that they didn't always walk the walk the walk

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and talk the talk. They you know what say do

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this but they were doing something different

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so i tried to perfect being good at living if

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you will and that's been my moniker ever since

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is trying to do things that uplift people uplift

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me uplift my family my friends my environment

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and then naturally if you become abundant you

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want to help those around you so that's become

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essentially i will call it philanthropy i'll

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just call it the goodwill of getting so much

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and receiving so many gifts that i could pass

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that back to the world in some meaningful way

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and that's pretty much why i think i've been

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put here and why i had these experiences kind

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of like your mission in life well i i just have

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to throw out the thing that i think is the elephant

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in the room and i hope you don't mind i don't

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mean to be offensive but 13 nd ease i mean come

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on well it's it's been my journey regardless

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I didn't plan that to be my journey. In fact,

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when I was a little kid and I would get a near

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-death experience, I always thought I was going

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to get to check out. I didn't like the energy

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on earth. I didn't like the people were very

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disagreeable and argumentative, it seemed to

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me. And I didn't think I really belonged here.

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And that went on for a long time until finally,

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not only did I think I belonged here, I could

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see the purpose to all that. You know, sometimes

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people will say, Well, you know, Greg, can you

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tell me about your background? And I'll say,

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well, that's, you know, kind of where to start.

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I mean, I've been able to create and lead several

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industries where I have no training. So how would

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that happen? The purpose to me then became of

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my near -death experiences to receive these different

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gifts or essentially ways to live best for me

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and that I could transfer that into successful.

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business ventures first and then successfully

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living a good life. Yeah I think we can all receive

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some kind of spiritual direction in our lives

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and yours seem to come through the near -death

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experiences. All right we're not going to be

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able to get to all 13 but there's a couple that

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stand out that are sort of unusually interesting

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or different or whatever you want to call it.

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I want to start with number 12. We're talking

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about the chlorine here. Would you just give

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us some background and take us right through

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that story? Sure. So I was pretty sure by the

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time I had that experience, which was around

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2005, that I would not have a near -death experience,

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that I was done with having near -death experiences.

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I had nine before I was 20, and then I had two

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more in my 20s, and now this takes me to my 40s.

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And I'm living a great life and I'm living in

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Chicago and a suburb called Vernon Hills. I have

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probably the nicest house in Vernon Hills. I

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have a pool in my backyard and I was very obsessive

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about keeping it clean and keeping the floating

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device in the pool that chlorinated it and had

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the little machine that went around and cleaned

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the bottom of the pool with a vacuum. And it

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was a hot August morning, I'll never forget it.

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And I was in the backyard and I saw the chlorine

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canister floating in the pool with a little frog's

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head on top. I don't know if you've ever seen

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this, Eric, but I was putting it up here because

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the top wouldn't come off. It was like the plastic

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had melted it on and it wasn't coming off no

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matter what I did. So I was wrestling and wrestling.

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And finally, after, I don't know, maybe two minutes,

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three minutes, it just tore off. What I didn't

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know was the chlorine tab. hadn't completely

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been used up in the water and it evaporated and

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mixed with the Chicago humidity, the hot August

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humidity and turned to a gas, a chlorine gas.

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So when I pulled it off, I breathed it in and

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instantly I felt like somebody put a blowtorch

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right here in my esophagus. Now I marched straight

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up this long deck into my back of my house, to

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my kitchen. And my dogs were all barking and

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my wife came out over this balcony and she said,

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can't you shut the dogs up? I'm trying to sleep.

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And I said, well, I could try, but I said, I'm

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probably going to be dead in three minutes. Literally.

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That's what I said. And I knew right away what

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had happened, but I made an emergency trip where

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she called nine one one. And it was a paramedic

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driving a mile away down Butterfield road. And

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as he drove by, I guess he just made a turn and

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came right into the development to try to rescue

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me. But I went straight to this drawer where

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there was a bottle like this, and on there I

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had a mock -up label called Oral Saver. An oral

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saver was something I had developed. You know

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when you get like you bite your cheek or you

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burn your mouth on a hot soup or pizza cheese

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or whatever or you know if you get hit in the

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mouth and you bite your tongue or you get a cold

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sore. I was always obsessed that this has to

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be fixed and I was always inventing things. I

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had patents going back to the 80s in electronic

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anesthesia and all kinds of stuff. So I had spent

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about two months developing this solution. that

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you could put in your mouth if you had any of

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these oral ailments. And it had 13 separate homeopathic

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ingredients that were for anti -burn situations.

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It had chlorophyll. It had food -grade hydrogen

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peroxide. It had all kinds of neat things, astringents.

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And so I just subconsciously said, I got to have

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that. So I went to the drawer. Not knowing the

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profoundness of it. I took the bottle out and

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I drank about half the bottle and then I could

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drink anymore because my throat was closing up.

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I went upstairs. I sat down on this massage chair

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that we had and a minute later there was a paramedic

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sticking a tube down my throat and taking me

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to the Condell Hospital. Then it gradually opened

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up and everything went back to somewhat normal,

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but it felt like I'd been blowtorched. There

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was no real big deal there except that I was

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sure that this was it. I was gonna die because

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my esophagus was going to burn up and it felt

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like that. But anyway, I finally, I said to the

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doctor who came and examined me, they said, well,

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you're in great shape. We've done this, you know,

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all these tests and EKG and echo and chest x

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-rays and all this. And normally what happens

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is when somebody has this kind of severe injury,

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you get a collapsed lung and then you have a

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stroke and then you die. or you become brain

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dead. And so we'll watch you for a couple of

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days. And I said, no, I got to get to a meeting.

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She said, well, I won't sign you out and insurance

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won't pay if you don't promise me that you'll

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come right back from the side of the road. You'll

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call if there's any problem. So I did. And I

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left. Now that night I went home and fell asleep

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at my desk at home about 11 o 'clock at night.

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And then I woke up to this information. You know,

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you get an idea. Eric, you're hearing this would

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be a great little invention. So you start writing

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and I'm sure this has happened to a lot of the

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listeners. You don't want to forget this idea.

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So I'm writing the purpose of life is to create

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positive increase in all things good. So I was

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like, okay, great. You know, that sounds really

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good. And, but usually when people get what they

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want, like in love, They start to see its limitations

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after a period of time, whether it be days, weeks,

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months. It could be a relationship. It could

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be that new house. It could be, you know, a trip

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you're going to take something amazing. But after

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a period of time, they start to see its limitations

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rather than the positive desire and love wanting

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and things that they had for whatever that was.

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And then it starts to break down. That was just

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very profound. I'm writing, writing, writing.

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So now I'm at a page. And I'm like, well, this

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isn't going to do because the information is

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still coming. So I start typing and I'm typing

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and typing and typing. And like an hour's passed

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and I've got principle one, principle two, principle

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three. And so I keep doing this. And with the

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exception of nodding off a few times and waking

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up drooling on myself and having a couple of

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snacks, you know, going to the bathroom so often,

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I had this giant library of information and I'd

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always thought I lived well. And I always thought

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I had great information and I always thought

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it came in from the ether as a result of these

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experiences. But this time it was different because

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now I had this gigantic library of things that

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you could literally follow it. And that became

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this giant inventory of information that apparently

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from what I learned in my 13th near -death experience,

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I was to be conditioned over the course of years

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and receive all these near -death experiences

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to essentially take out of my way out of my mind,

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you know, all the elements that are going on

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on Earth on a typical day and clear the path,

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if you will, to receive this information to where

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I can just receive it exactly as it was designed

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to do. And if somebody believes, as I do, in

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a spiritual force, you know, a supreme being,

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I call it God, but, you know, people might have

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all different views. And I wouldn't call myself

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religious more than I would call myself spiritual.

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But you believe that that good things are supposed

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to come to you and it comes through this supreme

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power, this universal consciousness or collective

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consciousness, you know, we're all one mind.

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And I was receiving all this great information

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and then I had to know what to do with it. Of

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course, it took until years later and took till

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2016 and then 2020 and now to have three different

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iterations of the same material that's been epically

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transforming people all around the world for

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for a long time it's very gratifying but anyway

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that's a summary of this unique experience that

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i had very cool and yeah i would call it unique

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a lot of regular nds they have some time where

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the person feels like they left their body and

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either looked down on themselves or went someplace

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else there's tunnels sometimes there's not some

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other times in any of your experiences did you

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have something like that happen Well, my experience

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was always, it seems now and looking back at

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it at the time didn't seem so, but at five from

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five years old on very controlled into a space

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of light. I can't even call it a room. I couldn't

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say there were boundaries, just being stuck in

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a space of light with a voice saying, you got

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to go back. There's things to do. You know, you're

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on the right path, but you have to do this and

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you have to do that. And so this was always.

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I thought I was going to get to check out then

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later when I learned to fight and beat up a lot

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of bullies and things and became a world -level

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champion. I thought that was my purpose. And

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then later when I got into business and created

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crowdfunding and did all these things that don't

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seem to go with no training. He has no training,

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but he's a speaker at the Academy of General

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Dentistry, the only non -degraded speaker, speaking

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about his invention, electronic anesthesia, and

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getting dentists for four hours where they get

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Master's fellowship credit for attending his

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seminar. I mean, these things don't, they're

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not logical. If somebody says, well, yeah, but

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13, it sounds ridiculous. Or, you know, tell

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me about your life. I guess I can only say after

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13 near -death experiences and all the gifts

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that I've received, Eric, as a result. I can

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only say that it's, you know, I sort of recognize

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an absurdity to my own existence, if you will.

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Yeah. Tell me a little bit about this bright

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place that you tend to go to. You said it has

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no boundaries, so it's not like a room. What

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is it like? Well, it's like a giant space of

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like, like, let's say the sun was ultra bright

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and it lit up the space with warm light. You're

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just in the space. You're aware that you're in

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the space. You don't see yourself. I didn't see

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myself Anyway, some people say they see themselves

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in this kind of transition to an afterlife I

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never really felt it was a transition. I felt

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for a long time for the first several near -death

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experiences i thought i was getting to check

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out which was my kind of my goal then later i

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thought well you know maybe there's a lot more

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to this that i'm supposed to be doing because

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i keep getting told to go back there's work to

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do i'm not being told what the work is but then

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i'm kind of being shown it and i'm receiving

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information that tells me exactly what to do

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so i feel like i became a vessel i mean that's

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kind of a corny word but you know i'll use that

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word a vessel to receive this information because

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when you look back on it uh I've had a lot of

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what I'll call thought leaders or people involved

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in the mind fields or mindfulness fields, I guess

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they call it now. And I was mentored by some

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of these Zig Ziggler or Nightingale W. Comet

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Stone. They always said you are what you think

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about you become your thoughts and thoughts are

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things, but I always felt it in the heart. So

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when i'm in the space i feel something changing

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in the heart i feel instant manifestation and

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i'm receiving this so people over the years that

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have sort of reviewed my background of said.

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You know do you ever feel like you're getting

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your information from the ether from the universe

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or just coming into you nice about the only way

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i feel like i've ever received any information

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at all and this is cause me some frustration

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in that when i've. Early on would see people

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doing something i would say. Have you thought

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of doing it like this or something? And thinking

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to myself, isn't it obvious? You could do so

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much better if you were just doing this and this,

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but you couldn't really say that because people

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are like, well, how do you know? I guess I could

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just look at it and see clearly. So that's what

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I think these transmissions were about to me

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because later I don't say I look forward to it,

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but I look forward to kind of proving that I

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would just die and then I wouldn't die anyway.

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So until... Now, you have to fast forward to

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that 12th near -death experience because I think

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it's very significant that I wasn't actually

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going to, in my mind, have any more near -death

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experiences when the 12th came. It was more than

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15 years after my last near -death experience.

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So I just thought I was done with that and then

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I find out that I'm going to get all this information

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and that's the whole point of that. Now, I always

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had that light. except on my twelfth and my thirteenth.

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And on the thirteenth I just had darkness sort

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of end of the world gloom and doom because I

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was I had a ruptured appendix I don't know should

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I tell you something about that what happened

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on my thirteenth. Well yeah and tell us about

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the doom and gloom that you experienced. Well

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that was different than all the others and I

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guess that was my proverbial kick in the pants

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from the source You know from the source of where

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I'm getting this information and I can't tell

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you this is God or God's helpers or angels or

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you know people sent to tell me stuff what I

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can tell you is that After I receive all that

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information. I think okay now what I'm supposed

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to do with it now fast forward I've written a

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book called a message from the source I put it

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out under a different title. I won't say much

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about that now because I'm going to re -release

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it. But it was the core information put into

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about a hundred page book that taught people

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seven blessings of meditation to receive essentially

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clarity, health, happiness, purpose, awareness,

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and abundance. I put it out there, but I think

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in 2009, I was being Rolfed. If you don't know

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what Rolfing is for the audience, it's deep tissue

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work. And most people after one Rolfing session

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cry and leave and they don't ever go back because

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they, Rolfers, which named after Ida Rolf, the

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inventor, this physicist in the 1920s, has a

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whole global institution I'll call the Rolfing

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Institute. And they are trained to dig deep into

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the body with their hands and stretch the muscle

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from the fascia and the bone. And it's very painful

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for somebody that just goes to get, maybe they

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think they're getting a massage. And it's designed

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to elongate the spine and take away the injuries

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from compression and just getting older. This

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Rolfer was doing my 189th Rolfing session. And

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I used to sleep through Rolfing, which you don't

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do because people can't sleep because it's too,

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but I would give into the process and it would

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help me deal with well over a hundred severe

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injuries I've had from being a fighting martial

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artist. And what I didn't know was on the 10th,

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this was her 10th session for me, or my 189th

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time I've been Ralphed, and she was doing the,

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they do the middle of the body in that session.

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And since I was sleeping, she always lamented

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that I didn't give feedback as I was sleeping,

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and that's not normal during Ralphing, and sleeping

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is not normal. But she manually ruptured my appendix.

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Now it's 2009, and I was at home with it for

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three days. I thought it was food poisoning.

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By the time I went to the hospital, I said, you're

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gonna have to catheter me because I haven't been

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able to pee for six hours. So in the middle of

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the emergency room on a Friday night with my

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family standing around, they just cathetered

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me and I peed two gallons. And they said, now

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you need to take out my appendix. And they said.

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Why do you say that?" I said, "'Cause Rolfer

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was Rolfering me. You probably don't know what

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that is." And she manually ruptured my appendix.

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And I'd been sitting at home with it thinking

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it was food poisoning. I only came to the hospital

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because I couldn't be for six hours, but now

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I can tell you it's my appendix. And they said,

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we don't think so because you couldn't talk right

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now if it was your appendix ruptured three days

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ago. And I said, well, I have a very high pain

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threshold. But that's a different story for another

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time. They came back with the iron test and said,

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okay, it is ruptured, but we think it's a minor

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clean out. That half hour clean out that they

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projected was a six hour clean out of full blown

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peritonitis. And on the third day of recovery,

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they medicated me and I flatlined. They over

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medicated me basically. And I had a premonition

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they were going to and they did. And then I flatlined

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and then in that space, I basically saw the end

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of the world in 2023. This was 2009. And I see

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this end of the world and it basically I get

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a message, you know at that time It's either

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gonna be the end of all things as you know it

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or a new beginning that's gonna be grand to the

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world you've been given this information to do

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a lot more with it and you're just sitting on

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your Your backside waiting for something to happen.

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You're gonna have to get out there now and make

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this happen. So that was 2009 after that I was

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told in dreams and so forth that i'll not have

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anymore near death experiences this time to just

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take this information and make sure i get the

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masses so that became source living. Add a test

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market app that was on apple and android for

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about a year. Put all my own money into it put

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it out there and it was there was over a hundred

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thousand sign ups in three months and i couldn't

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maintain it because you need a whole team you

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need to be like. prepared to be like a Silicon

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Valley company and I wasn't, that was a one -man

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show with a hired team. So I brought it out as

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Source Living and it was, people were epically

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transforming for just watching and listening

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to these videos. That 3000 principles from 12

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near -death experience turned into this app,

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which turned into 300 principles because even

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that wasn't manageable. And I couldn't manage

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the app company, although it was doing very well.

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I closed it in 2018. In 2019, I reopened it as

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Formula 4 protocol. That had the same level of

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success, but it had scaled down to only 100 principles

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of this core information that I was living off

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of. And I say living off it, the thing that always

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distresses me about people giving ideas, information,

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advice, input on self -help, self -improvement,

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mindfulness, near -death experiences, whatever,

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was that they couldn't walk the same talk. And

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that really bothered me. But I was applying all

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these principles, and my life was exponentially

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moving upward. And everybody that was getting

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it was having these epic transformations. And

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they could make videos and talk about it. And

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those videos are now... on the internet so that's

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something of great gratification but it's also

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reinforcement of me having to accelerate my purposes

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which is why i'm now doing this circuit of great

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shows like yourself. Okay i want to hear more

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about your childhood indies but i had just one

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quick question first what happened when in twenty

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twenty three the earth didn't end or the world

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didn't end like you had the premonition of. Well,

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the premonition wasn't that the world would end

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the premonition was actually a full blown I've

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actually Drawn out what it looked like the the

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world Basically a lot of destruction in the world.

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It said it's clear It says you and people like

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you with information like this we'll have to

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go out and do this work now because at 2023 will

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be this inflection where it will be the end of

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all things as we know it or the beginning of

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a great new world, which I think we hit in 2023.

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And it just, if you look at the transitions of

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things that are happening now, there's a lot

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of battling going on, but there's also a lot

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of great things happening as well. And I think

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that's going to result in. just a better world.

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So I wasn't given the responsibility of preventing

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the world from destroying itself. Those wheels

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have been set in motion by much more powerful

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forces than, you know, lowly Greg Halpern. Well,

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and you had said that it was going to be one

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or the other, the end or this new beginning.

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I hadn't personally seen the new beginning, so

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I assumed the other, but you have. And that's

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super interesting. And I love that positive outlook

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because it seems like there's so much bad news

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out there today. So the fact that we are headed

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in a newer, maybe more right direction, that's

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great news. I don't want to stick there, though.

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I want to go back to your first NDE when you

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were five years old. Tell us a little bit about

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that. I was the beneficiary of a tonsillectomy.

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At that time, you go to the doctor with a sore

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throat for more than three or four times. They

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say time to get those tonsils out and the adenoids

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too. I guess I don't know if that's the same

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thing or part of the same assembly. Anyway, I

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got the tonsils out and the second night at home

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at midnight, I remember my mom would start shaking

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me and I remember really well. I mean, the thing

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about my whole life is very profound. I have

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this Some people call this a photographic memory.

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I just call it a permanent memory of all the

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things that I experienced in my life. Well, I

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remember my mom shaking me like this by my upper

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body, Greg, Greg, get up. And I was thinking,

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no, no, I don't want to get up. This is going

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to work. And what she was referring to is she

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came on to check me for a second time that night

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before she went to bed and my whole pillow was

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red and blood was coming out. So it was just

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rolling out and She started screaming for my

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father and then a heartbeat. I'm in his car eight

00:25:44.220 --> 00:25:47.259
minutes to the hospital by a normal ride to the

00:25:47.259 --> 00:25:48.839
Highland Park hospital, but he probably got there

00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:53.420
in four. I had a bowl on my lap and I was just

00:25:53.420 --> 00:25:56.299
like this and the blood was just coming out.

00:25:56.740 --> 00:26:00.339
And I had about maybe three cups. They said three

00:26:00.339 --> 00:26:02.799
cups of blood. And it was going like waves back

00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:04.380
and forth. Cause you know, we just sat in the

00:26:04.380 --> 00:26:06.730
seat. We didn't have belts or anything. So we

00:26:06.730 --> 00:26:08.730
get to the hospital now we're talking about this

00:26:08.730 --> 00:26:12.769
is 1963 and The doctor meets us at the emergency

00:26:12.769 --> 00:26:16.789
exit and he rushes me in from a chair to a gurney

00:26:16.789 --> 00:26:19.809
into an operating room Sticks me on the gurney

00:26:19.809 --> 00:26:22.589
and wraps me up like a mummy with this sheet

00:26:22.589 --> 00:26:24.809
on a roll never seen anything like it before

00:26:24.809 --> 00:26:27.950
or since a sheet on a roll he goes like this

00:26:27.950 --> 00:26:30.230
and I'm like this and all the sticking out of

00:26:30.230 --> 00:26:33.789
my head He takes now keep in mind all I can smell

00:26:33.789 --> 00:26:37.579
is iron from blood He takes what looks like a

00:26:37.579 --> 00:26:39.220
paint roller's pen, sticks it right next to my

00:26:39.220 --> 00:26:42.240
head, dumps a giant bottle of iodine solution

00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.119
in it, empties the whole bottle, then takes a

00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:47.180
sponge that I can only describe as a loofah,

00:26:47.180 --> 00:26:49.460
puts it in there, then takes the tongs like you

00:26:49.460 --> 00:26:51.599
flip a burger on a grill and he's playing with

00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.720
it, getting it nice and soaked up. Then he tells

00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:55.720
my dad it looks like he's about to pass out because

00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:58.319
my dad did not like the sight of blood. And I

00:26:58.319 --> 00:26:59.700
was like, if you guys will just leave me alone,

00:26:59.700 --> 00:27:01.880
this is going to work, I can check out now, you

00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.299
know? And that's what I was thinking of myself.

00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.079
But by this time I was so far past it, you know,

00:27:07.140 --> 00:27:09.859
just the smells were making me nauseous. He takes

00:27:09.859 --> 00:27:12.559
the sponge and he tells my dad, hold his mouth

00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.039
open and don't let him move. So he sticks this

00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:16.519
giant sponge down my throat and he says, you

00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:18.680
can count sheep if you want. So I started counting.

00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:21.920
I remember getting to 14 in my head at least.

00:27:22.700 --> 00:27:27.420
And that was it. I went to completely fade out,

00:27:27.420 --> 00:27:30.319
you know, like in a movie fade to black. And

00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.759
then there's this light. and it's this room of

00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:36.700
light or the space of light. I could call it

00:27:36.700 --> 00:27:38.680
a room, but there was no boundaries on it. So

00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:41.599
I'm just sitting there and I'm aware that I'm

00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.700
in the light. And I get a voice talking to me,

00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.779
you know, a low voice, my imaginary vision of

00:27:48.779 --> 00:27:52.039
God maybe. And the voice says, you got to go

00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.460
back and don't be coming around here anymore

00:27:55.460 --> 00:27:59.579
because there's work to do. And he's like, work?

00:27:59.900 --> 00:28:03.549
What work? And I wake up and it's two days later

00:28:03.549 --> 00:28:05.829
and I'm in my bed and there's a stack of cards

00:28:05.829 --> 00:28:08.690
from my kindergarten classmates, apparently wishing

00:28:08.690 --> 00:28:12.349
me to get well, but I still have. And my mom

00:28:12.349 --> 00:28:14.349
is waiting there, apparently been waiting for

00:28:14.349 --> 00:28:17.089
hours for me to wake up. And she said, do you

00:28:17.089 --> 00:28:19.930
want jello or ice cream? And that was so funny

00:28:19.930 --> 00:28:24.410
to me. I just started laughing. And I couldn't

00:28:24.410 --> 00:28:28.140
laugh too loud because it hurt my throat. I just

00:28:28.140 --> 00:28:29.599
thought that was so funny, and what I didn't

00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.759
realize was I had just received this gift of

00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:35.279
a sense of humor. It was so extreme that everything

00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:37.299
that people would say, I would find humor in

00:28:37.299 --> 00:28:40.559
it, even no matter how dark it was or negative

00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:43.859
or positive. It didn't matter. Going a week forward

00:28:43.859 --> 00:28:46.180
after that, when I went back to school finally,

00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:52.279
if I had any friends around, I'd just break into

00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.890
faces. until they were in hysterics. I was like

00:28:55.890 --> 00:28:58.009
Jim Carrey, you know, like imagine Jim Carrey

00:28:58.009 --> 00:29:00.789
as a child making faces. So I was like that and

00:29:00.789 --> 00:29:03.650
I would just go on and on and on and once I got

00:29:03.650 --> 00:29:07.569
people into the laugh, I would just keep going,

00:29:07.910 --> 00:29:09.970
you know, and this would go on forever. And I

00:29:09.970 --> 00:29:12.720
became this, like he's the funniest kid. There's

00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:14.640
no reason why he's the funniest kid, he's just

00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:16.799
funny. Just watch him, listen to him. And I'd

00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:19.119
become clever and I would say funny things and

00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:21.240
I would twist words around and make new languages

00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:24.099
and people would, you know, find this amusing.

00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.480
So I thought, well, this is this huge gift. I

00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:28.900
wanted to check out and now I'm just immersed

00:29:28.900 --> 00:29:31.640
in comedy. I'm funny. And everybody thinks I'm

00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:33.599
funny. And it makes me feel good to laugh and

00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:35.599
it makes me feel good to make them laugh. That

00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.579
was what the first near -death experience that

00:29:38.579 --> 00:29:41.059
I went through was all about. How strange that

00:29:41.059 --> 00:29:43.819
that voice in addition to telling you to go back

00:29:43.819 --> 00:29:46.700
said, don't come back here again. I mean, that

00:29:46.700 --> 00:29:48.920
seems kind of funny right there, especially since

00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:52.220
you did go back a number of times after you disobedient

00:29:52.220 --> 00:29:56.339
little boy. Yeah. Well, that's so true. And I

00:29:56.339 --> 00:29:58.640
got to thinking that, you know, what is that

00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.240
all about? Really? You know, if I keep coming

00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.519
back, as you say, don't come back. Well, that

00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:05.980
wore out after a while. It changed to you're

00:30:05.980 --> 00:30:09.519
doing better. Stay on track. Do more of this.

00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:12.420
It's working, even though you don't see it now.

00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.579
Like, okay, good. You know, and I really, I didn't

00:30:15.579 --> 00:30:17.839
see myself making it past 20. And then when I

00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.579
got to 20, I had my nightmare death experience.

00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:22.579
I was tackled on a flight of stairs from behind

00:30:22.579 --> 00:30:25.140
and I woke up in the hospital three days later

00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:27.839
from a coma with all the discs in my low back

00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:29.819
disintegrating over the next two years and a

00:30:29.819 --> 00:30:32.160
myriad of health problems that would make just

00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:34.480
about anybody that I've ever met pray to die

00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.079
pretty quick. So at that point, I just gave into

00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.529
it. I said well there's got to be a reason for

00:30:40.529 --> 00:30:42.990
this because nobody would go through this if

00:30:42.990 --> 00:30:45.710
there wasn't there better be a reason you know

00:30:45.710 --> 00:30:49.109
that's all I'm saying well there always is these

00:30:49.109 --> 00:30:51.869
experiences aren't for entertainment value there's

00:30:51.869 --> 00:30:54.829
always a reason I believe and always something

00:30:54.829 --> 00:30:57.730
to learn from them uh let's hear about your one

00:30:57.730 --> 00:31:01.430
at seven years old well this is of course now

00:31:01.430 --> 00:31:06.819
we're at 1965 so I'm uh really living it up.

00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:09.779
I'm in the back of my grandparents' new Sedan

00:31:09.779 --> 00:31:13.140
de Vil Cadillac and this is just a great thing.

00:31:13.299 --> 00:31:14.880
But you know we're jumping around in the backseat,

00:31:15.019 --> 00:31:16.960
me and my sister, because Rolling Stones can't

00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:19.900
get no satisfactions playing. And I think the

00:31:19.900 --> 00:31:22.400
single just came out and it was sound great.

00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.299
My grandfather would always play the good popular

00:31:25.299 --> 00:31:27.640
tunes. He got a kick out of them, especially

00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.819
the Beatles' Hello Goodbye. He liked to sing

00:31:29.819 --> 00:31:33.119
along with it because it sounds ridiculous. All

00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.559
of a sudden, they were going 75. I'm looking

00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:38.960
at the speedometer from the back seat, because

00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.779
I'm in the middle between the two seats. And

00:31:41.779 --> 00:31:43.599
then I'm sitting back, and then I'm jumping up,

00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:45.960
and then I'm doing the music. And I'm playing

00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.380
with my lap belt. The lap belt was an option.

00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:50.720
We call it a seat belt, but it was called an

00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:54.039
optional lap belt on that car. And I'm clicking

00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:57.339
it on, off, on, off. And then I believe it was

00:31:57.339 --> 00:32:02.680
right after I clicked it on the car. turned into

00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:05.039
the silver guard rail. It was very heavy traffic.

00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.279
We were driving to a pool party in the July summer

00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:12.460
of 65, and we drive into that little silver metal

00:32:12.460 --> 00:32:14.920
guard rail that was in the center, and the car

00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:19.019
goes up and over it, flips upside down, and lands

00:32:19.019 --> 00:32:21.319
upside down on the other side with the roof caving

00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.700
in, and the car being hit going round and round

00:32:24.700 --> 00:32:27.519
and round, being hit by six cars going 75 in

00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.049
the other direction. Well, what we didn't know

00:32:30.049 --> 00:32:32.789
was that a 14 year old girl, you know This comes

00:32:32.789 --> 00:32:35.210
under the category of you can't make this up,

00:32:35.210 --> 00:32:39.650
you know, a 14 year old girl had waited For her

00:32:39.650 --> 00:32:41.190
parents to go out of town and her babysitter

00:32:41.190 --> 00:32:44.670
to fall asleep from will met, Illinois To get

00:32:44.670 --> 00:32:47.549
into her father's favorite little sports car

00:32:47.549 --> 00:32:50.049
an mg midget if you don't remember this car But

00:32:50.049 --> 00:32:54.009
it was oh, yeah a go -kart with a body and she

00:32:54.009 --> 00:32:57.279
wanted to drive it and she did and she got on

00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.460
the highway somehow driving it a stick shift

00:33:00.460 --> 00:33:03.140
and had the car at full speed because she lost

00:33:03.140 --> 00:33:05.019
control of it going straight under the back end

00:33:05.019 --> 00:33:07.579
of our Cadillac now my grandmother was driving

00:33:07.579 --> 00:33:09.900
never saw it because you wouldn't see it the

00:33:09.900 --> 00:33:11.759
car is too little and too low and drove under

00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:13.759
the bit end of the biggest one of the biggest

00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:16.240
cars on the road at the time because she did

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.079
this and the car was literally crushed to a sardine

00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.279
can on the other side of the highway and when

00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.279
all this stopped i was just going through my

00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.619
light my light space and I get the voice. I told

00:33:28.619 --> 00:33:32.160
you to stop looking around in here. Don't be

00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:33.940
looking around in here. You're going to be okay,

00:33:33.940 --> 00:33:37.059
but don't come back here. Go back and do the

00:33:37.059 --> 00:33:41.019
work. And then I look to my hand. I'm starting

00:33:41.019 --> 00:33:44.259
to come to my surroundings, but I don't know

00:33:44.259 --> 00:33:47.420
that I am. And I have two lines on here on my

00:33:47.420 --> 00:33:49.160
hand. You can't barely see them anymore. But

00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.160
what was happening was there was looks like a

00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:56.940
glass dagger was stuck in my hand going in here

00:33:56.940 --> 00:33:59.759
and coming out here. It was embedded in there.

00:34:00.019 --> 00:34:02.180
It was longer than my hand. Of course, I had

00:34:02.180 --> 00:34:06.599
a small hand. But the light was reflecting through

00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:10.880
a crack in the summer sun through the car and

00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:13.260
was reflecting off. And it looked like the prism

00:34:13.260 --> 00:34:15.420
filter on Pink Floyd Duck's Side of the Moon,

00:34:15.619 --> 00:34:17.139
if you know what that looks like, that prism

00:34:17.139 --> 00:34:19.480
thing. And I'm thinking, wow, this is fascinating.

00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.980
But I feel like I've just been in an accident

00:34:21.980 --> 00:34:24.460
at Riverview. Now, for those that don't know,

00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:28.760
Riverview was like a great America. It was a

00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:30.260
Disneyland, if you will. But it all they had

00:34:30.260 --> 00:34:32.760
was roller coasters that had notoriously had

00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.179
accidents where people died. It was eventually

00:34:35.179 --> 00:34:37.840
closed because it was too much liability. But

00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:39.840
I thought I was on one of those roller coaster

00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.260
rides. and i'm looking at this glass with fascination

00:34:43.260 --> 00:34:45.900
but thinking man i'm really nauseous the belt

00:34:45.900 --> 00:34:48.139
was off it looked like it had either snapped

00:34:48.139 --> 00:34:51.519
off or broken off and i was laying in a crumpled

00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:55.059
ball like this you know upside kind of upside

00:34:55.059 --> 00:34:58.599
down uh that part is not as clear but what is

00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:00.519
clear is i looked through the crack where the

00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:02.920
sun was coming in and i see a head appear there

00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.519
a little head of this girl who was the one who

00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.800
caused the accident she was fine And traffic

00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.099
had stopped for apparently for miles and she

00:35:10.099 --> 00:35:12.659
looked in there and she says, is anybody okay

00:35:12.659 --> 00:35:16.179
in there? I just started laughing to myself.

00:35:16.380 --> 00:35:19.039
I didn't laugh out loud, but I, I don't know

00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:20.679
if I laughed out loud, really. I just know I

00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:22.519
was, this was really funny. Like, is anybody

00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:26.199
okay in here? Why would a little girl who I couldn't

00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.079
have imagined that she was the driver that caused

00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:30.539
the accident, but where does this little girl

00:35:30.539 --> 00:35:33.139
come from? And why is she asking if anybody's

00:35:33.139 --> 00:35:34.500
okay? So I don't say anything. And then I hear

00:35:34.500 --> 00:35:38.380
a big deep voice. A little lady stepped to the

00:35:38.380 --> 00:35:41.599
side, please. And a fireman comes in and I can

00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:43.860
see basically this part of his face. And he says,

00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.239
is there anybody in there? If you are, please

00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:50.500
call out. And I said, this is Greg and I'm calling

00:35:50.500 --> 00:35:53.619
out and I'm very nauseous. I remember that real

00:35:53.619 --> 00:35:56.579
well. I just remember the feeling of nausea.

00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.300
He said, well, I need to know if anybody else

00:35:59.300 --> 00:36:02.000
in there is hurt or okay. Can you tap anybody

00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.760
and see? I said, well, they're not really moving.

00:36:04.309 --> 00:36:06.230
He said, okay, we're gonna have to cut the car.

00:36:06.230 --> 00:36:10.170
So now keep in mind this was about a Year before

00:36:10.170 --> 00:36:12.110
they had shatter proof glass on cars where they

00:36:12.110 --> 00:36:14.750
put polycarbonate in the glass front from shattering

00:36:14.750 --> 00:36:17.829
So glass just went everywhere and I had the one

00:36:17.829 --> 00:36:20.989
piece and then this was also about three months

00:36:20.989 --> 00:36:25.969
as history tells us before they first used a

00:36:25.969 --> 00:36:30.309
jaws of life to open up a crashed car So they

00:36:30.309 --> 00:36:33.170
would use any kind of crazy tool they power tool

00:36:33.170 --> 00:36:36.710
they could find to chop open a car to get people

00:36:36.710 --> 00:36:41.610
out. Yeah I wanted to just check one quick thing

00:36:41.610 --> 00:36:44.989
for those that weren't alive back then there

00:36:44.989 --> 00:36:47.829
were lap belts in some cars there were no shoulder

00:36:47.829 --> 00:36:50.730
belts and nobody wore them there were no seat

00:36:50.730 --> 00:36:54.380
belt laws nobody wore them. So it was normal

00:36:54.380 --> 00:36:57.000
for you to just be playing around back there.

00:36:57.219 --> 00:36:59.900
We used to stand up in the front seat of the

00:36:59.900 --> 00:37:01.860
car. I mean, things like that. It's just how

00:37:01.860 --> 00:37:04.800
it was back then. That's right. And parents might

00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:06.780
say if they were really ambitious, they might

00:37:06.780 --> 00:37:10.340
say, you need to sit on and shut up now. Yeah,

00:37:10.340 --> 00:37:12.440
that'll keep you safe. But he said, you know,

00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:14.840
is there he said, I'm going to need you to cover

00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:19.119
your eyes and it might you might feel some stinging

00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.960
from the. the saw, but you need to keep them

00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.380
closed and covered. And if anybody else is there,

00:37:25.460 --> 00:37:27.579
you need to try to shield them any way you can.

00:37:27.900 --> 00:37:30.699
He said, okay, we're going to use this saw now.

00:37:30.860 --> 00:37:34.159
And then I heard a generator go on. And then

00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.639
I heard a circular saw go on. And then I heard

00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.519
metal crunching and through my hands covered

00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:43.019
like this, just kind of, you know, peeking a

00:37:43.019 --> 00:37:44.940
couple of times, sparks were flying all over

00:37:44.940 --> 00:37:47.489
the place. And that went on for. As far as I

00:37:47.489 --> 00:37:49.170
can remember, it seems like five to 10 minutes,

00:37:49.190 --> 00:37:52.070
but it was a long time. And then they were able

00:37:52.070 --> 00:37:56.289
to finally crowbar the thing space and get everybody

00:37:56.289 --> 00:37:58.389
out of there. I don't know how they did it. Now,

00:37:59.070 --> 00:38:04.769
a long time later, about a month later, my grandfather

00:38:04.769 --> 00:38:08.710
needed to get his insurance card and his license.

00:38:08.929 --> 00:38:10.389
And he had left it in the, he always had his

00:38:10.389 --> 00:38:11.710
wallet in the glove box. So we had to go to the

00:38:11.710 --> 00:38:13.570
junkyard and get it. So I have a picture of the

00:38:13.570 --> 00:38:17.820
car and it is just trash. They told us there's

00:38:17.820 --> 00:38:20.000
no way anybody's gonna live from this. When we

00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.260
approached the car, we knew everybody in there

00:38:22.260 --> 00:38:26.420
was dead. So was your family okay? They all had

00:38:26.420 --> 00:38:29.619
a fractured neck vertebrae, the three of them.

00:38:30.139 --> 00:38:33.920
My sister and my friends. But they lived a normal

00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:37.079
life after that. I just had the glass in my hand.

00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.119
And it stayed there until we got to the hospital.

00:38:39.179 --> 00:38:41.900
They removed it and put in three stitches here.

00:38:42.380 --> 00:38:44.739
It's there today. It's a very clear reminder

00:38:44.739 --> 00:38:47.199
of it. something that is still very clear to

00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:50.559
me. So this voice that you heard during various

00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:54.059
NDEs, tell me about it. Was it the same voice

00:38:54.059 --> 00:38:56.940
every time and what did it sound like? Well,

00:38:56.940 --> 00:38:59.719
it sounded like how I would describe, you know,

00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:03.360
God or a supreme being or one of his helpers

00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:07.500
or, you know, as a deep voice. Something kind

00:39:07.500 --> 00:39:10.440
of like what my voice has turned into. It's not

00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:13.239
my voice for sure. It's a deeper voice, deeper

00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:18.199
throatier voice. that was somehow soothing, even

00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:21.500
though it started out disciplinary and later

00:39:21.500 --> 00:39:24.400
it fluctuated between different assignments,

00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:27.659
if you will. What emotions did it leave you with?

00:39:28.340 --> 00:39:31.420
Well, after that second experience in the car,

00:39:32.019 --> 00:39:34.519
I just received this love for all things. It

00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:38.539
was like endless gratitude. I no longer saw things

00:39:38.539 --> 00:39:41.760
just, you know, there's a car, there's my father,

00:39:42.139 --> 00:39:45.119
there's my neighbor friend, there's my teacher.

00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.260
I just had love for everybody. That and this

00:39:48.260 --> 00:39:50.260
sense of humor, all these gifts, I call them

00:39:50.260 --> 00:39:54.019
gifts, are ways that I live what I think is a

00:39:54.019 --> 00:39:56.760
great life. Years later, I wrote a book called

00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.460
Ten Days to Live about a fellow that was not

00:39:59.460 --> 00:40:01.280
supposed to make it more than 10 days because

00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.170
he had... three twenty over one ninety hypertension

00:40:04.170 --> 00:40:05.889
when there was no medicine treat the disease

00:40:05.889 --> 00:40:08.389
in forty nine it was endorsed by a guy named

00:40:08.389 --> 00:40:10.530
norman cousins he wrote a book called anatomy

00:40:10.530 --> 00:40:13.570
of an illness that i read years later and became

00:40:13.570 --> 00:40:16.110
familiar with them in the eighties. And he won

00:40:16.110 --> 00:40:19.070
a honorary medical degree from harvard for laughing

00:40:19.070 --> 00:40:23.409
himself well. You left himself well love it so

00:40:23.409 --> 00:40:26.090
that gift and the gift of having endless gratitude.

00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.860
You know, there's an old saying that if you want

00:40:29.860 --> 00:40:32.280
to be wealthy and prosperous, you have to understand

00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:35.179
how wealthy and prosperous you are already. So

00:40:35.179 --> 00:40:36.940
you have to be able to take stock and inventory

00:40:36.940 --> 00:40:39.059
of the things in your life that you wanted, liked

00:40:39.059 --> 00:40:42.019
and loved that you now have that make your life

00:40:42.019 --> 00:40:45.039
better. And you have to be able to reflect that.

00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.159
And that's what gives you hope. That's what gives

00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:49.980
you desire. That's what gives you the passion

00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:53.079
for living. But I say it all comes from the heart,

00:40:53.099 --> 00:40:55.039
which they now know is its own energy center,

00:40:55.099 --> 00:40:59.159
like the mind. The core work of what I received,

00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:03.139
this knowledge on my 12th, talks about a language

00:41:03.139 --> 00:41:06.159
called the positive affirmative language. And

00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:09.059
it says that if everything you say has only the

00:41:09.059 --> 00:41:11.500
positive elements, not the natural counterpart

00:41:11.500 --> 00:41:14.559
negative elements, and if you're thinking those

00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:18.639
things, feeling those things, believing those

00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:22.150
things, speaking those things, then you can receive

00:41:22.150 --> 00:41:25.030
those things that you want like in love. And

00:41:25.030 --> 00:41:27.969
so it's a whole body of work that becomes its

00:41:27.969 --> 00:41:31.670
own language. And I have to believe that if,

00:41:31.710 --> 00:41:34.449
you know, I'm talking to these experiences to

00:41:34.449 --> 00:41:40.070
God or God's helpers or whatever, that this body

00:41:40.070 --> 00:41:44.340
of wisdom is there and they want people on earth

00:41:44.340 --> 00:41:47.000
today to be able to get that information and

00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:50.360
use it for a better experience at a higher level,

00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:53.500
if you will, without having to learn a bunch

00:41:53.500 --> 00:41:56.400
of stuff. And that's, I think, the core of this

00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.179
information that I was receiving. I must have

00:41:58.179 --> 00:42:02.039
been receiving it having gratitude. I once thought

00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.760
that my second grade teacher in second grade

00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.380
did not like me, even though I was an A student

00:42:08.380 --> 00:42:11.860
my whole life, having seemingly done no work.

00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:16.199
and just shown up, but still got all great grades.

00:42:16.860 --> 00:42:20.119
She wrote a letter that I found about a year

00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.219
ago when I was visiting with my mom. She had

00:42:22.219 --> 00:42:25.380
saved it from second grade to my parents. And

00:42:25.380 --> 00:42:28.260
it just, it just talks about me in such a way

00:42:28.260 --> 00:42:31.300
that if you were to read it, you would say this

00:42:31.300 --> 00:42:35.340
kid is going places because he has a great attitude

00:42:35.340 --> 00:42:39.599
and he is open and he learns quickly and he's

00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:42.409
helping make everything better. So that's what

00:42:42.409 --> 00:42:46.050
I took from those experiences and it became about,

00:42:46.050 --> 00:42:49.849
you know, at 30, I stopped asking why am I here?

00:42:50.449 --> 00:42:53.769
And I started behaving why I'm here to do good

00:42:53.769 --> 00:42:56.070
things and do good work and to live a good life

00:42:56.070 --> 00:42:59.150
and to help people any way I can. So between

00:42:59.150 --> 00:43:02.909
your books, training, all kinds of other things

00:43:02.909 --> 00:43:05.289
that you've done, I'm going to just let everybody

00:43:05.289 --> 00:43:07.889
know if they want to learn more about that stuff,

00:43:08.590 --> 00:43:11.010
patriotinnercircle .com, and we'll stick that

00:43:11.010 --> 00:43:14.250
down in the show notes too. Leave us with one

00:43:14.250 --> 00:43:17.349
last thought. Why should people have hope today?

00:43:17.989 --> 00:43:20.429
Well, within the Patriot Inner Circle that you

00:43:20.429 --> 00:43:24.389
just mentioned, this is my last effort now before

00:43:24.389 --> 00:43:27.309
final retirement of You know, not living, but

00:43:27.309 --> 00:43:29.829
from just trying to pass this information on

00:43:29.829 --> 00:43:31.849
because it's been working and it's going to work

00:43:31.849 --> 00:43:34.190
better and better. But I wrote a book in there

00:43:34.190 --> 00:43:36.969
in three days, a 400 page book called semantics

00:43:36.969 --> 00:43:40.309
and mechanics. And you can read the first hundred

00:43:40.309 --> 00:43:44.030
pages, I think on Amazon Kindle and you can get

00:43:44.030 --> 00:43:46.429
the first hundred pages along with 12 other.

00:43:46.650 --> 00:43:49.829
gifts of things that are just given away freely

00:43:49.829 --> 00:43:52.409
to everybody. And I would urge anybody that is

00:43:52.409 --> 00:43:54.789
interested, really, if you're genuinely interested,

00:43:55.329 --> 00:43:58.670
just sign up with an email and get the 12 free

00:43:58.670 --> 00:44:01.590
downloads. And Semantics and Mechanics, the book

00:44:01.590 --> 00:44:03.949
I wrote, the latest book I wrote within that

00:44:03.949 --> 00:44:08.389
information, decodes everything down to what

00:44:08.389 --> 00:44:11.820
our systems... You know how are they used to

00:44:11.820 --> 00:44:14.539
keep us believing certain things and how can

00:44:14.539 --> 00:44:18.059
we use our own horsepower our own intelligence

00:44:18.059 --> 00:44:21.539
to get to the center of clarity for ourselves

00:44:21.539 --> 00:44:24.480
and then use that to the greater good of whatever

00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.199
it is we want to accomplish in our own contribution

00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.559
to our lives and the lives of those that are

00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:32.900
close to us so i guess that's that book semantics

00:44:32.900 --> 00:44:36.460
and mechanics is my final piece will be a series

00:44:36.460 --> 00:44:39.789
of those but the first book. It effectively achieves

00:44:39.789 --> 00:44:42.510
and if somebody was to read those three hundred

00:44:42.510 --> 00:44:45.369
pages on kindle around. Patriot inner circle

00:44:45.369 --> 00:44:47.789
at the patriot point of superstore they would

00:44:47.789 --> 00:44:52.269
be able to start to easily decode all what's

00:44:52.269 --> 00:44:54.929
going on around them and have a lot of hope for.

00:44:55.429 --> 00:44:57.889
The things they want to accomplish in life and

00:44:57.889 --> 00:45:01.130
the good they want to do by giving them tools.

00:45:02.110 --> 00:45:05.389
That i guess in closing i could say that i was

00:45:05.389 --> 00:45:09.219
on a show. entrepreneurs on fire about five years

00:45:09.219 --> 00:45:12.920
ago. And he has some very strange questions that

00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.679
I'd never heard. One of the questions is, what

00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:17.619
do you say to people that say, well, I didn't

00:45:17.619 --> 00:45:19.679
have this background or I didn't have that background.

00:45:19.940 --> 00:45:22.099
And this sort of thing really applies here and

00:45:22.099 --> 00:45:25.000
maybe some meaningful way to close this. And

00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:28.880
that is that I said, you know, people aren't

00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:32.460
the reason they're not successful. I think has

00:45:32.460 --> 00:45:36.000
very little to do with. Having a lot of challenges

00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.460
to overcome because although i've had a lot of

00:45:38.460 --> 00:45:41.139
challenges that's part of my journey most people.

00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:44.219
Don't have an anecdotal story you know they don't

00:45:44.219 --> 00:45:47.579
have a lot of challenges that get them. To overcome

00:45:47.579 --> 00:45:49.539
and overcome and overcome and so finally they

00:45:49.539 --> 00:45:52.019
just rise above and now they're selling that

00:45:52.019 --> 00:45:56.469
whole idea other people. I believe that the reason

00:45:56.469 --> 00:45:58.710
is, is that most people that have these challenges

00:45:58.710 --> 00:46:00.829
in life don't really overcome their challenges.

00:46:01.289 --> 00:46:03.230
They pass them on from generation to generation

00:46:03.230 --> 00:46:04.909
after saying, I won't be like my parents, or

00:46:04.909 --> 00:46:07.250
I won't make those mistakes. They tend to do

00:46:07.250 --> 00:46:10.090
much the same things, but in much the same place.

00:46:10.449 --> 00:46:12.809
And the exceptions are just at the exceptions.

00:46:13.090 --> 00:46:16.010
I think the missing element is the decoding of

00:46:16.010 --> 00:46:18.389
all information. How do things really work? The

00:46:18.389 --> 00:46:22.329
awareness and clarity to understand the... situations

00:46:22.329 --> 00:46:25.110
and the chaoses you're revolving in and have

00:46:25.110 --> 00:46:27.610
the hope but have the tools, most importantly,

00:46:27.989 --> 00:46:31.550
to rise above and project through it and do real

00:46:31.550 --> 00:46:33.849
good for yourself that you can see, as we said

00:46:33.849 --> 00:46:36.050
in one of the advertisements, there's no learning

00:46:36.050 --> 00:46:38.829
curve, just watch and listen. So in Semantics

00:46:38.829 --> 00:46:42.949
and Mechanics, my closing opus, it shows how

00:46:42.949 --> 00:46:45.809
things are worded to create chaos, to create

00:46:45.809 --> 00:46:48.929
difficulty, to create struggle for most people.

00:46:49.190 --> 00:46:52.539
And this decodes all that. so that the mechanics

00:46:52.539 --> 00:46:55.840
can be not the mechanics you live by, you can

00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.639
make your own mechanics. And the real power of

00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.699
a person is the realization that they have the

00:47:01.699 --> 00:47:04.159
power within themself. That's what wakes the

00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.280
whole thing up. Most of my information, you would

00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:08.719
hear it, you would say, well, gee, I already

00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:11.440
know that to be true, or, you know, boy, that's

00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:13.920
a great point. I've often thought that way. But

00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.860
now that you put it in those words, it's very

00:47:16.860 --> 00:47:20.190
easy to succeed. And in those words now, I can

00:47:20.190 --> 00:47:22.449
actually take it into my life and do something

00:47:22.449 --> 00:47:24.989
with it. Otherwise, why is it worth something,

00:47:24.989 --> 00:47:27.409
right? Yeah, it's great when we have those kinds

00:47:27.409 --> 00:47:29.570
of things happen. It's sort of those light bulb

00:47:29.570 --> 00:47:33.050
on moments. I think there's so much that we already

00:47:33.050 --> 00:47:35.630
know, but it doesn't come to the surface often

00:47:35.630 --> 00:47:38.349
enough. And you're helping some of that happen.

00:47:38.750 --> 00:47:41.389
Anyway, Greg, I've got to let you go. Thank you

00:47:41.389 --> 00:47:44.050
so much for your time and all your insights today.

00:47:44.309 --> 00:47:46.750
It's been a good fun. It's been my pleasure.

00:47:47.809 --> 00:47:50.730
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