Lynda Sees The Throne of God During 2nd NDE (Near Death Experience)

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From the time that they pronounced me dead was

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a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then

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they paddled my heart, my heart stopped and I

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could see people screaming and crying but I didn't

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realize that was actually my physical body because

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I was somewhere else. The only thing that I could

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feel if you could imagine absolute love and peace

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there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was

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greeted by people I'd known in the past. I'm

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back home again. Incredibly safe and felt at

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home. Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.

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And a very warm welcome to our special guest

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today, Linda Flagler. How are you, Linda? I'm

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great. Thank you, Eric. Good. You're up there

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in Canada. Tell us what's around you. Give us

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a little geography. Well, I'm in a city called

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Cambridge, Ontario. There's like three cities,

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Cambridge, Kitchener, and Waterloo. They're almost

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like connected, kind of go from one street and

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then you're in the next town sort of thing. And

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I really like it. It's a beautiful area. I know

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you're not right on one of the Great Lakes, but

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you're sort of surrounded by them, aren't you?

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Yes, I've been here just five years. I moved

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up here to be close to my daughters. I have twin

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daughters. They live one in Kitchener, one in

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Braslaw, which is also very close to here. And

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I was from Peterborough, and that's connected

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directly to the Great Lakes. Okay. Well, I've

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already kind of coerced you into telling us a

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little bit about yourself, but that's our first

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order of business each week. So tell us, who

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is Linda? Well, I have an honours degree from

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Trent University in Peterborough, Ontario. I

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went back to school after 10 years. And after

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finishing school, I worked for two and a half

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years with developmentally delayed adults and

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Down syndrome and adults with autism. After that,

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I went to work with YWCA Crossroads Women's Shelter,

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working with abused women and children. Well,

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you're one of those good people. Thank you. You

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know what I mean. There's some people that just

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make money in business all their career and others

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that just do good. So anyway, thank you for all

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you do. But let's jump into it. You've had a

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couple of near -death experiences and they're

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different from each other and they were spread

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out of ways. Let's talk about the first one first.

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And this one is not a really traditional near

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-death experience, shall we say. The second one

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is a little bit more down those lines, but tell

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us about the car wreck a few years back. Well,

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what happened is I worked a lot of midnights

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at the shelter because I was what is called relief

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stop. So when you're hired there, you start at

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the bottom and then you work as relief, then

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you go to part -time and full -time as a counselor.

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I was relieved, so I get all the really if the

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midnight. And so I was coming home in the morning,

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and my car hit black ice. And when it did, I

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lost total control of my car. It spun in circles

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one direction, and it spun in circles the other

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direction. And it just kept spinning. No matter

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what I did, I could not get it out of this spin.

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I thought, this is it. I'm going to get hit.

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Somebody is going to hit me. And I thought, if

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they do, that's it. I'm dead. And so I said a

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prayer to God. I said, if I'm going to die, please

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don't let it be too painful. And immediately

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after I said that prayer, my car filled up with

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white light to the point I could no longer see

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the road. I couldn't see out the windows. I couldn't

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see my rear view mirror. It was like it was gone.

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All I could see was white light. It was like

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I was sitting in a real white cloud. And at that

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moment, I heard a voice say, stop steering. And

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without even thinking why, I would hear a voice.

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I said, but I kind of got to get the car through,

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and somebody's going to hit me. So I was like

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steering for a second, even though I could not

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see the road. And then I realized I can't see.

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And then I heard the voice even louder. Again,

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say, stop steering. And I said in my mind, OK,

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this is it. Took my hands off the wheel completely.

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I put off the gas, and I think it was on the

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right, too. I'm not sure. I was so panicked.

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Then the car slowed itself down and backed itself

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across the highway into a shallow ditch. I came

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out without a scratch, so did the car. A family

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in a van driving by saw me in the ditch. They

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picked me up and took me home. But the weird

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part about this, if this isn't weird enough,

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the night before that I always had a couple hours

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not before I went in to work. And when I went

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to go upstairs to bed, I looked out the front

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door and I could see that it was starting to

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snow out. And I thought, oh no, another slippery

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winter drive. And I thought I might be okay because

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it's just starting to snow. So I went up to bed,

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but I was tossing and turning like, what's it

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going to be like in the morning? I know it's

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okay now. What's it going to be like in the morning?

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What's it going to be like? And all of a sudden

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I saw myself in a vision in my car spinning.

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And I'm like, what is going on? And they always

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say, you're having a car accident. I've never

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had a vision before. So I pick up any kind. It

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scared me because I could feel the fear of that

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actually happening. And I kind of pulled myself

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out of it. And I'm like, what was that? I went

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running downstairs. I wanted to phone in to work

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and say, I can't come in. Well, what could I

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say? I had a vision, and if I drive to work,

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I'm going to have a car accident. That's really

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not a good excuse for calling in on your shift

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at 10 o 'clock at night when you're supposed

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to start at 11. So I went to work hardly believing

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what had happened, and I got there fine. It was

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slippery, but on the way home, that's when my

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car hit black heights. All right. I want to play

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devil's advocate for a second because This is

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the kind of thing that I usually don't call a

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near -death experience. I call it just sort of

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a brush with death, right? But there's some differences

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here, and that is the bright light. Can you explain

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to me the bright light? Was this headlights from

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a semi -truck, or was this a light from something

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else? It was a day light. Headlights still flashing

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in your eyes. I know that experience since I

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drove a lot at night. I know what that feels

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like. This was completely... surrounded by white

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light, and I could not see my rear view mirror,

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and I could not look out and see the road. It

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was not headlights, Eric, I assure you. Okay,

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you've had a few years to think about this. Can

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you explain the white light? Do you have any

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thoughts as to what it was or represented? Well,

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I would say I very much believe in the power

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of prayer. My whole life I've had great faith

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in God and I believe I called out and I feel

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like it could have been an angel, a divine presence.

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I can't fully explain it myself, but I know,

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say you say it could have been headlights, right?

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Well then explain to me that voice that said

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stop steering twice. Well that's my next question

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because I'm just asking your opinion. Who do

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you think that voice was? Well, I would say the

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voice was like either a spirit guide or a guardian

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angel. Well, those would be my guesses too. I

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just was hoping that maybe you had come up with

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something. One or the other. Yeah. Those are

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pretty closely related anyway, aren't they? They

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are. Yeah, I've seen both. And then how your

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car did what it did to keep you safe. Would you

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attribute that to this guardian angel as well?

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I would because it was the way, see, not only

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did it, it took itself under the spin, the ditch

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could have went close to the ditch where I decided

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I was on. it was closer, like it marked itself

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across the whole highway, which was farther than

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the other side was closer. I'm going to give

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our audience what I call a woo -woo alert, because

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there are some times that we were very serious

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about Everything and very calm and still and

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there's other times where people would say what

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you're talking about kind of woo -woo Whatever

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woo -woo means we're jumping into that now. So

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here's the woo -woo alert everybody now when

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people have had a near -death experience They

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often come back and have some kind of a spiritual

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gift whether that is being spiritually connected

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with angels or people who have died or or talents

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like playing the piano or had someone on the

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show that after her NDE, she could understand

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animals' thoughts, things like that. So tell

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me what happened to you shortly after this experience.

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Well, within three days after that happened,

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at night I started seeing people standing beside

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my bed. At first, I thought it was my imagination.

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And the reason why I did it was because they

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all appeared to be from different centuries,

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like period clothing of centuries going back

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to, I'd say, the 12th century, approximately.

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I thought, well, why is your imagination doing

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that? I didn't think, at first, it was dead people.

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And I would lay in bed and go, what did you watch

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on TV? And I would go, friends, Fraser? comedies,

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because that's what I like to watch. Until one

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night, I was by myself in the house. They weren't

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talking to me. They were just standing there

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looking at me. And then one night, I was by myself.

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My boyfriend was on midnights in the factory

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where he worked. My daughters were on a sleepover.

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They were 10 years old at the time. And I was

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laying up in bed thinking about what I had to

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do the next day, that the shelter was going to

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call me. I got to do laundry. I got to do groceries.

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You know, just general stuff. And all of a sudden

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I heard what sounded, and I was laying north

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of my eyes closed, all of a sudden I heard what

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sounded like a real old man's voice go, I beg

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your pardon. And I thought, oh my God, there's

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an old man in my bed. How did he get in here?

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And I was scared to open my eyes for a couple

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of minutes, but then I thought I got a deal with

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this man in my bed. I opened my eyes and there

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was nobody there. And that's when I realized

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that was a dead person. So were the other people

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that for several weeks were standing beside my

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bed every night. So to make a long story short,

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after that, I became a medium with the ability,

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because once I heard that one person, I started

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to be able to connect. Like, I'm leaving a lot

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out here, but people started calling me for readings,

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and I realized I then had the ability. to communicate

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with people that have the height. Okay. Certainly

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not expected. Was that really scary at first,

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to see these people? Well, just that particular

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night when I was by myself, I nearly ran downstairs,

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lit up a cigarette because I smoked at the time.

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I don't anymore. Plugged in my tea kettle and

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waited for all the dead people to call the police

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because I thought that was what was going to

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happen. And at that point, I heard a thought

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to me, which I now know is a spirit guy say,

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look, Linda, you can choose to be afraid of this

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or you can develop a sense of humor. So that

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was like a ray of hope. I said, I can do the

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hat. So I stood in my kitchen all by myself and

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said, look, I don't know what all you dead people

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do for sleep, but I'm going to get something.

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I'm going to bed, leave me alone. So I marched

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up, see I was going to bed. They left me alone

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for about three or four days and then they all

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started coming back. and I've been seeing them

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and hearing them ever since. You know what this

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reminds me of? Have you seen the TV show called

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Ghosts? I love that. Jennifer loved Hewitt. I

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used to watch it all the time. And the show Medium.

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No, there's a new show out called Ghosts. It's

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more of a comedy. Oh, the new one? I know the

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new one, yeah. Yeah, it's about a couple that

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have this old house and it came with Ghosts.

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The woman had an accident, if I remember right,

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bonked her head or something and and sees these

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ghosts all the time now that nobody else can

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see and she can hear them. And that's what I'm

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picturing. And I don't mean that in any kind

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of a making fun of way. But that's what I'm picturing.

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Is it anything like that for you? Oh, it is,

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Eric, because I never know who I'm going to see.

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Like I can be sound asleep in my bed. Like, I

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mean, I sleep and I'll hear Linda. Linda, Linda.

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I'm so used to it. Now I go, what, what? And

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I'll roll around and be somebody standing beside

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my bed or sitting on it. And they'll say what

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they want to say. And I'll say, OK, I'll tell

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them. And then they go. Are they always friendly

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ghosts or spirits? Mostly. Some aren't. The ones

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that seem to be, I would say, more angry is murder

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victims. because they have lost their lives.

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Somebody just took their life. And after, this

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is a whole other story too, so we could talk

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for hours, but I became a licensed private investigator

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because I did start to see spirits of murder

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victims wanting my help. So they had you help

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solve the crime? Well, in some cases, it's hard

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for the police to recognize it, but... When I

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do call in, I have been right a great deal of

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times. It's something over the years I kind of

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pull back a little from because it's the images

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are very almost traumatic to see because I'll

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see what's happening with that person, how their

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death occurred, why, you know, it's especially

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difficult in the case of children. Okay, I'm

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not sure what to do with that, but we're going

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to move on. I want to fast forward to your more

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recent, more traditional near -death experience.

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Would you tell us what led up to that? I was

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in a relationship that became very difficult

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and abusive, and the doctor put me on a set of

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colchonazepam. I was supposed to take one or

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two a day. I was taking like six or seven. The

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drugstore was closed at Christmas time. I went

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to get my prescription, and it was closed for

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two weeks. So I ended up withdrawing off that

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drug, which I didn't know how strong it actually

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was. And after three days, I started having,

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like, seizures. And I was feeling really ill,

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and I realized it was too bad. I was lying on

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my right side. I went to roll over on my left

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side, and I didn't make it that far. I left my

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body and started floating up. And the first thing

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I saw... was my guides sitting in a church praying

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for me. And then I floated higher, and then I

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saw Mother Teresa. And I'm not Catholic, but

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that's who I saw. And she said, I'm praying for

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you. Then I floated higher. Then I saw Edgar

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Cayce, who was a prominent psychic in like the

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1940s, who did over 15 ,000 medical readings

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for people while in a deep state of sleep. and

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it could never be proven wrong by doctors, although

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they tried. I said to him, what are you doing?

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He said, I'm talking to you. And he just sat

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and smiled at me. And I floated higher. Then

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I saw St. Peter. He was standing. It looked like

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a speaker's podium. And he said, we're going

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to put back everything the way it was. I floated

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a little bit higher past him. And I saw what

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looked like a throne. And somehow I felt it to

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be the throne of God. And at that moment, I heard

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a voice say to me, you have been chosen to sit

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at the right hand of God. And for some reason

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unknown to me, I said, I can't sit there. That's

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Jesus' place. And as soon as I said that, I felt

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myself falling and falling and falling. I felt

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like from a very high distance. And I started

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to get scared, but I was going to hit and boom,

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and back in my bed. But then after that, I don't

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think I fully realized what had happened. But

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after that, I started flying out of my body.

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And for the next two, three hours, I kept flying

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out of my body, eating my body, and going to

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different places all over the world. I forgot

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most of them now, but the only one I really remember

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was Egypt. And when I ended up in Egypt, I ended

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up in a pyramid. There was like an outer wall

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and an inner wall. I could see myself traveling

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down between the two walls. and started to feel

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claustrophobic. So I say, I want out of here.

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Soon as I said that, I was in the main part of

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the pyramid. It was big and open. And at that

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point, I saw Cleopatra. And I saw her as clear

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as I'm seeing you now, perhaps clearer. And she

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spoke to me what I don't remember what message

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she gave me, something about eternal life. And

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then I was back after that, and just the result,

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like you said, the after -effects of that was

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just my abilities as a medium thought even a

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lot stronger. And I began to physically feel

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it, if a spirit would touch me, grab me or poke

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me, as if that person was alive. So you had not

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felt the spirits previously, but you do now sometimes.

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Not to touch me. Before previously, I could feel

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strongly how a person died. I can honestly say

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I know what it's like to be shot, stabbed in

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the back, and drowned. And the sensations, you

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know, people, you hear mediums talk, and they'll

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say, I feel pressure in my chest or whatever.

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It's like, oh, no, no, no. I can tell you what

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it really feels like. And I asked my wife to

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take that away because I felt it too strong.

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So for a number of years, that kind of stopped,

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where I don't feel that anymore the way I did.

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You know, you can tell me how you died, but don't

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make me feel that. That's great that you have

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some control over it. And frankly, I'm glad I

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don't have your gift. That doesn't sound fun

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to me. You know what, dear? A lot of people say

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that to me. Yeah. Again, going back to that time

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in the kitchen, my guys had even developed a

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sense of humour. That's what I do. I laugh and

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I joke and I joke about what I do. I'm being

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pretty serious now, I know. But you speak to

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me and when I do a reading for people and to

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connect with their loved ones, I like to make

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them laugh so that they know they don't have

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to be afraid of death. Okay, I want to go back

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and ask some questions. This drug interaction,

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I wasn't clear. Did you have some kind of an

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interaction or a withdrawal or an accidental

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overdose? Exactly, what was it? It was more of

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an overdose, taking too much and then cutting

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off of it. I mean, they told me later at the

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hospital that I could have died. Yeah, I did.

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Yeah, because even though it's a tiny pill, it's

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very, very, very strong. There's a lot of damage

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if you misuse it. I have to play devil's advocate

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again just for a second. I'm not trying to give

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you a hard time, I promise, Linda. But there's

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got to be some people that say, oh it was a drug

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overdose and so you saw all these things. What

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do you say to that? The thing is I had been off

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the drug for several days. It had almost been

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out of my system by that point. I was not hosting

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or anything like that, and I had been off of

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it for several days before that happened. I also

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find really interesting the fact that you saw

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these Catholic figures, Mother Teresa, Saint

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Peter, a throne, which I guess would be kind

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of a Christian thing. Then you saw Cleopatra.

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I don't get it. Well, I can tell you, dear, I

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don't get it either. OK. Even initially, when

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I saw those people staying beside my bed, why?

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I can ask myself this question as much as you.

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Why was I seeing people from different time periods

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in the beginning instead of people that died,

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say, 10 years ago? Why was I seeing people going

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back to the 8th, 9th, 10th century? I can tell

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you why, but that's a whole other show. Because

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I don't know why, but at the time, I didn't.

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It's a very good question. And you know, at that

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time, why did I see Cleopatra? Well, again, I

00:22:05.339 --> 00:22:07.319
can answer that, but how many times do you want

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me to be on your show? I just want a 30 -second

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answer, that's all. Well, I believe I never used

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you. but I believe wholeheartedly now in reincarnation.

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And I believe that was a past life experience.

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Okay. How did you know who these people were?

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Did they introduce themselves or did you just

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for some reason know them? The people from the

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different time periods I didn't know. The people

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that come now, mostly they'll tell me their names.

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Well, I was asking about during the NDE when

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you saw St. Peter Cleopatra, Mother Teresa. As

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he sat and I recognized him. He said, of course,

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I've seen pictures of him. But one night after

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my first near -death experience with the car,

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I woke up to see him, a man walking through my

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bedroom, walking in front of my bed wearing a

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three -piece suit. I saw him from kind of the

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back and the side. the spirit. And I said, excuse

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me. I said, who are you? And he said, I'm Edgar

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Cayce, dear. And he just proceeded to walk through

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the door and out. But Saint Peter, how did you

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know that that was him? I don't know, Eric. I

00:23:25.579 --> 00:23:29.559
don't have an answer for that. People in Christianity

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tend to believe there is a Saint Peter who will

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stand at the gates of heaven and kind of direct

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track it, right? And I don't have an explanation

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as to why. is certainly something I didn't create

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in my mind. This is there he was standing at

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what looked like some sort of a podium. And he

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said, we are going to put things back the way

00:23:52.809 --> 00:23:56.230
they were. That's OK. I'm just asking all the

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hard questions today. That's all. The other thing

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that I found interesting about that is it seems

00:24:01.829 --> 00:24:07.089
that a lot of people during their NDE see people

00:24:07.450 --> 00:24:11.930
or angels that they are familiar with. Christians

00:24:11.930 --> 00:24:16.930
often see Jesus or somebody else through that

00:24:16.930 --> 00:24:20.410
religion. Buddhists sometimes see Buddha, et

00:24:20.410 --> 00:24:24.329
cetera, et cetera. And you're not Catholic, yet

00:24:24.329 --> 00:24:27.190
you saw Catholic figures. And that's unusual.

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I think it's interesting. It's interesting. So

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I've read about in your death experiences and

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that people do see Jesus in angels. I didn't

00:24:37.940 --> 00:24:43.059
at that time, but guess what? Now I do. Now I

00:24:43.059 --> 00:24:47.160
do. Just within the last year, I started to see

00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:51.099
angels that I've never seen before, images of

00:24:51.099 --> 00:24:55.059
Jesus coming to me that I've never seen before.

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And over time, since the second near death experience,

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it's like my abilities get stronger and stronger.

00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.599
I call these almost like after effects. And if

00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:09.599
you look to people like study these after effects.

00:25:10.420 --> 00:25:13.400
Well, one of mine era was that I began to speak

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different languages. The first one, I was actually

00:25:17.539 --> 00:25:20.359
sitting on my toilet. I was feeling pretty down.

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You're allowed to say toilet on this show. It's

00:25:22.900 --> 00:25:26.940
OK. Thank you. So I thought if I said a prayer,

00:25:27.220 --> 00:25:29.420
it would cheer me up. So I started trying to

00:25:29.420 --> 00:25:31.559
say a prayer out loud and instead came out these

00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.390
different words that I didn't understand. So

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I said, oh, stop babbling. Just pray. So I tried

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to pray again, and it came these words. So I

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made a recording on cassette tape and took it

00:25:45.430 --> 00:25:47.970
to a counselor I was seeing at the time. And

00:25:47.970 --> 00:25:50.970
she said, I think that sounds like Hebrew. She

00:25:50.970 --> 00:25:52.690
said, I have a friend that's a professor at the

00:25:52.690 --> 00:25:55.430
University of Toronto. I'll tape the tape to

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her and see what she thinks. So when I come back

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to her the next week, she said, well, She says

00:26:01.430 --> 00:26:04.750
it is Hebrew. It's ancient Hebrew. And at the

00:26:04.750 --> 00:26:07.769
time, I didn't follow up on it. But then years

00:26:07.769 --> 00:26:10.829
later, within the last few years, I decided one

00:26:10.829 --> 00:26:15.750
day just to try to speak Hebrew in. And I did,

00:26:16.089 --> 00:26:18.269
because I sent my phone for Google Translate.

00:26:18.430 --> 00:26:21.390
I said, Hebrew. Around that time, I connected

00:26:21.390 --> 00:26:25.569
with a paranormal research scientist, Steven

00:26:25.569 --> 00:26:29.410
Schwartz, in the States. had many conversations

00:26:29.410 --> 00:26:33.089
over the last couple of years. He took it to

00:26:33.089 --> 00:26:36.869
one recording to a rabbi. The rabbi said it's

00:26:36.869 --> 00:26:40.769
an old -fashioned Hebrew, and he wouldn't touch

00:26:40.769 --> 00:26:43.950
it after that, because it's so big. Somebody

00:26:43.950 --> 00:26:46.990
that can do what I can do, channel different

00:26:46.990 --> 00:26:50.069
languages in that culture, thought it was being

00:26:50.069 --> 00:26:53.529
a witch. And the rabbi, and any rabbi Stephen

00:26:53.529 --> 00:26:55.890
tried to approach would not have anything to

00:26:55.890 --> 00:27:00.160
do with that. Then I sent a page of type language

00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.660
to another professor in the States, and he said,

00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.039
that's modern Hebrew. So in total, I've spoken

00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.279
three different forms of Hebrew. On top of that,

00:27:10.779 --> 00:27:14.500
83 other languages. And any languages I've tried

00:27:14.500 --> 00:27:18.019
to speak, I've been able to. But when I speak

00:27:18.019 --> 00:27:21.059
Hebrew, that's my favorite because I can get

00:27:21.059 --> 00:27:23.819
the most information. I know a great deal about

00:27:23.819 --> 00:27:27.299
Israel. present and going back centuries to the

00:27:27.299 --> 00:27:30.839
time of the Torah before. Names of towns, cities,

00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:34.240
kibbutzes that don't even exist anymore, businesses,

00:27:34.619 --> 00:27:38.819
restaurants, food, everything, as well as information

00:27:38.819 --> 00:27:43.019
about physics, advanced math, mathematics, human

00:27:43.019 --> 00:27:46.960
genealogy, ancient Greek playwrights, just a

00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:51.279
lot of stuff. So I stayed connected with Stephen

00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:55.759
Swartz. I continue to speak to him. to this a

00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.940
day. He was a creator and a pioneer of extended

00:27:58.940 --> 00:28:02.180
remote viewing. And he's worked with a number

00:28:02.180 --> 00:28:06.779
of people who are mediums over his life. Okay,

00:28:06.819 --> 00:28:09.039
I'd like to know what you've learned from all

00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:12.400
this. Seems like these experiences are always

00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:15.599
to teach the person that has the experience.

00:28:16.180 --> 00:28:19.000
Often there's a message for other people too.

00:28:19.059 --> 00:28:23.220
What do you think is yours? Well, my intention

00:28:23.690 --> 00:28:28.569
And my wish is to teach people there's nothing

00:28:28.569 --> 00:28:31.890
to fear in death. And all death is is crossing

00:28:31.890 --> 00:28:35.289
over, literally, from this life, physical life,

00:28:36.069 --> 00:28:39.069
to the other side, which is non -physical life.

00:28:39.349 --> 00:28:43.670
And by the way, it feels exactly the same as

00:28:43.670 --> 00:28:47.269
this life. And every bit is physical to those

00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:49.450
on the other side. It's not like you're living

00:28:49.450 --> 00:28:51.769
in a cloud flowing around unless you want to.

00:28:52.250 --> 00:28:56.990
It's a very physical feeling reality. And I want

00:28:56.990 --> 00:28:59.569
to teach people, you don't have to be afraid

00:28:59.569 --> 00:29:04.609
of death. I want to teach people to realize,

00:29:05.549 --> 00:29:07.170
I'm not going to sound religious here, but the

00:29:07.170 --> 00:29:10.490
kingdom of God is within you. And to have faith,

00:29:10.589 --> 00:29:12.589
you have faith in God. It's the same as having

00:29:12.589 --> 00:29:16.049
you have faith in yourself. And so I want to

00:29:16.049 --> 00:29:19.069
teach people, you need to trust in yourself.

00:29:19.269 --> 00:29:21.609
You need to trust. What would you say to somebody

00:29:21.609 --> 00:29:24.890
that's having a rough day today? Maybe lost a

00:29:24.890 --> 00:29:27.910
loved one, maybe is kind of giving up on hope.

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I would start by saying, look up, don't look

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down. Look up, look up to the sky instead of

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looking down at the ground. Look up and say,

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I will get through this because I always have.

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That's beautiful. Thank you very much for being

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with me. If anybody wants to reach out to you.

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You said that I could put your email address

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in the show notes. You still cool with that?

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If so, I'll put them in there. Yes, I am. Okay,

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I'll do that. This has been really interesting,

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Linda. I appreciate you joining me today. Thanks,

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Eric. Thanks again for listening and sharing

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this podcast. Don't forget to hit the follow

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