Tammy is "Freaked Out" by NDE (Near Death Experience)

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Since the dawn of time, man's deepest questions

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have revolved around the reality of an afterlife.

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Of course, there's never been a way to know until

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now. Witnesses of the world beyond, hope in a

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better existence, overwhelming, unconditional

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love, real people, real experiences and a glimpse

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into the eternities. This is Round Trip Death.

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I am super happy to welcome to the show today

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Tammy Chaney. Tammy, how are you? Very good,

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thank you. It's a good day today. It's a fantastic

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day. And we were just chatting about all your

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travels. And one thing that I love to do before

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we talk about somebody's near -death experiences

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is to get to know them just a little bit. So

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if you wouldn't mind taking one minute and tell

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us a little bit about, well, whatever you feel

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like so we can get to know you. But I think the

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traveling is really interesting. OK, so I've

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been traveling. Well, it's 11 years in February.

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This year will be 11 years. I'm originally from

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Southwest Florida, Naples, Fort Myers area, born

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on the East Coast of Florida. I just came to

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a place where, see my issue was as I kept moving

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from place to place to place because I needed

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to change my scenery. So when I went on the road

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and I started traveling and my scenery was changing

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all the time, I felt like I felt peace for the

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first time ever in my life. So that became my

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life and I've traveled all over the United States,

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pretty much every state except I think there's

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about four or five states, the upper like North

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Dakota, South Dakota, Michigan, all that upper

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area I have not done yet. But other than that,

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I've done them all and I've done them all multiple

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times, multiple, multiple times. What are a couple

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of your favorites? Well, Colorado is by far my

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favorite state. Arizona, where I'm at now, I'm

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in Phoenix. Phoenix isn't where I love in Arizona.

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Flagstaff or Lake Havasu or Sedona. I love those

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areas of Arizona. So Arizona is definitely my

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second favorite and then New Mexico. So I love

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the West and I love that whole duo of all three

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of those states together. Many states are beautiful.

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It's just just something about the energy is

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the only way I can describe it for New Mexico

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Arizona and Colorado. The energy is just it's

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off the charts Okay, well we're gonna jump right

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into some of your experiences and I don't mind

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warning the audience We're gonna be all over

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the place today. This isn't gonna go necessarily

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exactly chronologically But why don't you jump

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in and tell us what happened with your head injury

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and we'll kind of go from there Okay, so so that

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was my near -death like experience. It's exactly

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like a near -death I was living in a home that

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was for Women that were pregnant that had had

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some sort of injury you know, regardless of how

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it came and they needed to be in a place that

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was like a protective home, I guess you could

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say. At that time, I started going to church

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because it was a church -based home, and so I

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started going to church for pretty much the first

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time in my life. I did go to Sunday school here

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and there when I was a kid because a bus would

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come and pick us up, but the only thing I remember

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about that was the juice and the snacks that

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they would give us. And so actually going to

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church and now at this time I'm 24 years old,

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I'm pregnant and I have a almost three year old

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son at that time. I go to this church and after

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about the third time going there, I had an experience

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which was, I don't know, I think people call

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it like a Kundalini awakening. All I know is

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my eyes couldn't see clearly is the only way

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I can describe it metaphorically speaking and

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when I went through this experience and I can

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go into detail if you want but when I had this

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experience I all of a sudden could see everything

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crystal clear completely different from the way

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that I was seen and I mean like the people around

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me the world like everything in the world that

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experience in itself had already it was a full

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-blown I was completely a different person at

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that time. So exactly two weeks later after that

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experience. Now I'm going to go back just a little

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tiny bit before I tell about this experience.

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I had a head injury. Where I was blacking out

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for about 10 seconds every day like throughout

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the day Because of my head injury and and it

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would just be I would be out for 10 seconds And

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I'd come back to and how the neurologist said

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this to me is he said I was having non epileptic

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seizures and what happens is the brain shuts

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down just for seconds and then Reboots back online.

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I guess that's what a non epileptic seizure is

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So I'm not sure if that's what happened but basically

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what I did is I went into my room and I did nothing

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more than I sat on my bed and I leaned back onto

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the backboard that was behind me I didn't lay

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down I was sitting up but leaned back on the

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backboard and Instantaneously, I was not where

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I was when I sat down anymore. I was in a whole

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other place and now this place Would appear like

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earth only because it had a dirt road. It had

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trees that have flowers It had this very ancient

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looking building off to the to the right so it

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kind of looked like earth, but What I was seeing

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is I was seeing the most beautiful Flowers that

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I had ever seen Was seeing grass that was the

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most beautiful grass that I had ever seen the

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trees were like Like everything was so vibrant

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everything was in such beautiful colors Colors

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that I would never be able to describe here.

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They were not colors that exist here in this

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time frame Next to me was this being On this

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side and another being on this side and now they

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looked humanoid But there there was this aura

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I guess on them they were shiny it's the only

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way I can describe it or bright bright I guess

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bright would be a better word. They had this

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brightness about them and so I'm walking with

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these two beings and I'm I'm freaking out like

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I'm literally like running over to the flowers

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and and just looking at the beauty of them and

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running back to them and we're walking ahead

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I'm like and the trees look at the you know I'm

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literally freaking out probably like a child

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in a candy store at what I was seeing and the

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trees the the leaves on the trees were this just

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most Beautiful green that I can't even explain,

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but it was almost like it was translucent is

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the only way I can describe it. They were like

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they were just this beautiful translucent green.

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And of course, I'm running back and forth. I'm

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freaking out. I'm like, I can't believe this.

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And as we're walking down this road, what was

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so what was so specific about the flowers is

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as you're walking, the beauty of the flower.

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is like every time you look at the flowers, they're

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always facing you is the only way I can describe

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it. You never see the back of the flowers. In

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fact, I didn't see the back of the tree either,

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but I didn't go behind the tree. I was seeing

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it from this angle, but you never saw the back

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of the flower. So as you're passing them, every

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time you look at them, they're always facing

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you is the only way that I could describe it.

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So you're just continually seeing the beauty

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of this flower there was also a the only way

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I can describe it is it was a tone there was

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this tone in the air as well as this smell that

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was it was just there's no way to describe the

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smell that I smelled I don't even know any example

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Like maybe it would be every single flower that

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exists on the face of the earth that gives smell

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was all combined together in this amazing like

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smell. I hate to interrupt. I have so many questions

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at this point and I want to hear all the details.

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So I promise we're going to come back. We left

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off on the smell. I just want to fill in a few

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blanks. That's all. One is Did you feel like

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you like your spirit left your body? Did you

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feel like it was a dream? What did you feel like

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was going on? No, I was definitely 100 % Transported

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from one place to the other and that place was

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more real than than the earth place and The reason

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why I say that I did not it wasn't like an out

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-of -body experience because for me personally

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I started having out -of -body experiences when

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I was five years old and when you have an out

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-of -body experience you feel well I did I felt

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the feeling of like it would be like is the only

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way I can describe it and as a five -year -old

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It was extremely scary. I was scared to death.

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Like, I didn't know the name out of body, nor

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did I know that what was happening to me was

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not normal. I thought that was normal human things,

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so it wasn't even anything to even talk about.

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And when you go back into the body, there is

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still some sort of an effect that you feel when

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you go back into the body. And that was scary

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to me as well because there's an experience that

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you have in both of those transactions. In this

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experience that I had, it was instantaneously.

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There was no me popping out of my body or even

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popping back in. I was instantaneously somewhere

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else. It was so real. It was more real than here

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is the only way I can describe. Like it was I

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knew that was home. Actually, I knew that was

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my home. And that's part of what I'm trying to

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figure out is how are you transported from here

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to here if your body was still here? Help me

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understand. I have absolutely no idea. But my

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body was definitely still sitting on that bed.

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in the exact same position that I was in when

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I left. Okay. Thank you for the honesty. I appreciate

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that. I'm wondering when all this is going on

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and the beautiful flowers and the smell and the

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two beings and everything, what are you feeling?

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Is there fear? No. I instantaneously, from the

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moment I was there, I instantaneously felt what

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true unconditional love is. There's really no

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like perfect human word to put to it. I knew

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instantaneously that was my home and I knew instantaneously

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that I was being flooded with this pure unconditional

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love is the only way I can describe it. That's

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why it was more real than here. You don't feel

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those things here. Even just that word love,

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L -O -V -E, is such a tiny minute little word

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compared to actually what love feels like. Did

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you feel like that love was coming from the beings

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or from the place? I felt like it was in everything.

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This is the only way I can describe it, okay?

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Everything there was this love. It was Everything

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is the only way I can describe it. It was everything

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that love was everything Okay, tell me a little

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bit more about the beings. You said that they

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were shiny and humanoid looking Right. Do you

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think they had names? Did you know who they were?

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Give me some more idea Yeah, no, I never asked

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their names. I'll be I'll be completely honest

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with you the only thing that was coming out of

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my mouth towards these beings was the words of

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me freaking out about what I was seeing. The

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beings actually never even spoke a word to me.

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It was like they were leading me up this street

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and they were not dressed like, you know, how

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we dress now. They were definitely something

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from an older time frame is the only way I can

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describe it. They weren't dressed like us. They

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dressed like ancient is the only way I can describe

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it. And they never spoke to me. They never said

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nothing to me. Everything that was happening

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there, it was coming from me. You know, I was

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speaking. You're freaked out. Words are coming

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out of your mouth. What kinds of things are you

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saying? I'm saying, oh my gosh, look at the flower.

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I'm like, you know, and I'm going to the net

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and I'm like, and this one, and this one, and

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the grass. Oh my gosh, look at the grass. You

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know, I'm like, I'm just Freaking out about what

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I'm saying. It was just me Almost being the me

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that is normal me You know, it's just my normal

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me was there a really good kind of freak out

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not a scared kind of freak out Right, right.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was instantaneous.

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I knew this was my home and instantaneously it

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was The pure, unconditional love. That's the

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only way I can describe it. Pure, unconditional

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love. There is no word for the feeling that you

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feel there. It is just so pure is the only way

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I can describe it. Just complete pureness. Have

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you ever felt anything even remotely close to

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that in this world? Never. No. I don't think

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that can exist here. I just don't believe it

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can exist here. It's not something that is...

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It just can't. It can't exist here. It's not

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human. Whatever it is, it's not human. Tell me

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more about this tone. Was this like a musical

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note or what was it? Okay, so it was almost like

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it was music, but it wasn't, okay? It was like,

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it's nothing I've ever heard here on Earth. So

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to put it into words, it was like energy. With

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lots of beautiful lights, but I didn't see energy

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and I didn't see a bunch of lights But what my

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head's telling me right now the only way that

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I can try to describe it is it's all these beautiful

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colors and it's Moving is the only way I can

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describe it. Nobody's ever asked me that before

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I'm like, wow, I don't know how to describe that

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It wasn't music like we hear here. It's not like

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that It was different. It sounds very multi -sensory,

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like seeing, feeling, hearing, maybe some sensories

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that we just don't have here. I mean, we don't

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really have words for this, so we're trying to

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figure out how to say and express this. It almost

00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:05.319
sounds like more than multi -sensory kind of

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experience, more than seeing, hearing, feeling,

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like maybe you had more centuries than you do

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here. Yeah, I was definitely like, that's how

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I used to explain it. I'm like, this was me up

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there. I was because it really was like it was

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I can't use the word intense because that almost

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seems like a negative there was nothing negative

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about it at all. I just I knew I was home and

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I knew that I was obviously somewhere else and

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and the overwhelming feeling of love was just

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no words can describe it. When you say home,

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does that mean this is a place where you feel

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like you have been before? That I can't answer,

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but what I mean by home is I know that this is

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only temporary and not that I knew anything about

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I didn't know nothing at that time about nothing.

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I'm going to be completely honest with you. I

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knew that that was a place where I must have

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been before. There was no I did not have to contemplate

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anything in my head. There was no there was no

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remembering that I had been there before. There

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was no other thought other than I knew that was

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my home. That's the only way I can describe it.

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There was no thought. I don't know if you have

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thought on the other side or not because there

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was no thought. It was just, it just was, is

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the only way I can describe it. It wasn't in

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any of my out -of -body experiences at five and

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six and seven and eight years old. I never have

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been there before. I never went there. I didn't

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out -of -body and go to some other realm like

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that. It was, in my opinion, in my human self,

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here being on Earth, I'd never seen that place

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before in my life. In my now brain. You know

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what I mean? But when I was there, immediately,

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it was just 100 % complete knowing. I knew that

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was my home. I was feeling the most amazing unconditional

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love 2 .0 I mean. Thank you for answering all

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those questions for me. Let's jump back to where

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we were. You were talking about the smell and

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I want to hear more about that and then I want

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you to keep going on from there. The smell sounds

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like if you could figure out how to bottle that

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you'd be rich making perfume. Oh yeah so the

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smell was well like I said before it's almost

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like It would be a combination of like roses

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and gardenions and lilac and violet, like all

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these smells you're smelling, but it's like it's

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all one smell. It's like it's only one smell,

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but you're smelling all of these like together,

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all at once. It would be like having, I guess,

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guess a good explanation would be like having

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a bouquet of flowers and having all the flowers

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that give off beautiful scent or herbs, you know,

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because I because I do remember it being Like

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there had to have been sage or lilac. I don't

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know other plants other than flowers because

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the smells it was like you could smell every

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single smell but it was all happening at the

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exact same time. That's the only way I can describe

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it. OK, what happened next? OK, so as I'm like

00:21:01.769 --> 00:21:04.150
freaking out and everything about the flowers

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and I'm running back to the beings, we're walking

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again down this dirt road, I all of a sudden

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have the thought, I guess, or not the thought,

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just my body just automatically did it. I look

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over my shoulder. to see what's behind me because

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at this point even though I was running around

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like a maniac I didn't see anything behind me

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my focus was always only on the two men and my

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focus was always on just the flowers and the

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trees and the grass so I looked over my shoulder

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like this and when I looked over my shoulder

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back behind me going as far as the eye can see

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there were these beings that were humanoid shaped.

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Okay, that's the only way I can describe it.

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They were shaped like a human, but there was

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no clothes, no face, no skin, no nothing. They

00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:06.599
were pure light beings, and they were as far

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as the eye can see. And as soon as I saw those

00:22:10.859 --> 00:22:14.740
light beings, I turned my head back to the front

00:22:14.740 --> 00:22:19.339
of me. And now in front of me, instantaneously,

00:22:19.420 --> 00:22:23.960
there's this big, gigantic, huge light. It wasn't

00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:28.940
there before. It was a light similar to the sun,

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but it would be like, you know how when you're

00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.500
watching a sunset at the beach and the sun comes

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down and it's resting on the water? Well, picture

00:22:36.660 --> 00:22:41.240
it taking up the whole line of the water instead

00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:44.220
of just that small section. The whole front of

00:22:44.220 --> 00:22:47.410
me was taken up by this light. that was like

00:22:47.410 --> 00:22:51.829
the sun. Instantaneously, I knew that light was

00:22:51.829 --> 00:22:56.450
God. I don't know how to put that in any other

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words other than I knew that light was God and

00:23:02.769 --> 00:23:05.809
that is who I had been speaking to, communicating

00:23:05.809 --> 00:23:09.970
with since I was three years old. Once I saw

00:23:09.970 --> 00:23:15.019
that light, Once I knew that was God and that

00:23:15.019 --> 00:23:17.180
that was who I'd been speaking to since I was

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three years old I turned my head over to the

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one of the I don't know if I turned from the

00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:25.140
right or the left I don't remember which way

00:23:25.140 --> 00:23:28.319
I turned but I turned my head and looked at the

00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:32.460
being and I said I can't wait to go back and

00:23:32.460 --> 00:23:38.000
tell everyone and Instantaneously, I was right

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there on my bed just like that instantaneously

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I was on my bed so immediately the first thing

00:23:45.970 --> 00:23:49.190
that I wanted to do as soon as I realized I was

00:23:49.190 --> 00:23:52.309
now back in my bed is I wanted to jump up and

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I wanted to go tell all the other girls in the

00:23:54.809 --> 00:23:58.930
house what just happened to me so I jump up just

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like my thought was Ran out into the hallway

00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:05.259
area. You got to understand at this place that

00:24:05.259 --> 00:24:07.180
I was at it was like a four -bedroom house You

00:24:07.180 --> 00:24:09.759
had a master bedroom on one side and then you

00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:12.259
had four bedrooms on the other side It was it

00:24:12.259 --> 00:24:14.380
was just a regular house that you would never

00:24:14.380 --> 00:24:18.380
know was a safe house. I Go out into the hallway

00:24:18.380 --> 00:24:21.680
and every time we would see each other. We would

00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:26.619
always speak Anytime we saw each other walk wherever

00:24:26.619 --> 00:24:28.579
we were at in the kitchen. We'd say hey, what's

00:24:28.579 --> 00:24:31.180
up or whatever? You know what I mean? We we'd

00:24:31.180 --> 00:24:33.839
speak Well, I went into the hallway and started

00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:36.480
walking and the girls started walking past me

00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:40.559
and I went to go speak and I I could not even

00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:45.400
get a Not even a noise out of my my mouth. Okay,

00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:48.319
I didn't know what was going on. But at the same

00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:53.359
time I could still feel that light that I had

00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:58.019
just left. It was like I came back here and there

00:24:58.019 --> 00:25:03.019
was this bubble around me of that light, okay?

00:25:03.900 --> 00:25:07.019
When I realized I couldn't speak, I immediately

00:25:07.019 --> 00:25:08.920
turned back around and I went back to my room

00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.460
and I sat on my bed. And I said to myself, I'm

00:25:11.460 --> 00:25:14.339
just gonna sit here until whatever this is leaves

00:25:14.339 --> 00:25:17.710
me, and then I'll get up. and I literally sat

00:25:17.710 --> 00:25:20.450
there for about 45 minutes and after about 45

00:25:20.450 --> 00:25:23.349
minutes I thought in my head I wonder if I can

00:25:23.349 --> 00:25:25.829
speak yet and I literally just said like three

00:25:25.829 --> 00:25:28.049
simple words and the words came out and I jumped

00:25:28.049 --> 00:25:31.410
up and I instantly went out there and started

00:25:31.410 --> 00:25:35.390
telling the girls what had happened to me. Whoever

00:25:35.390 --> 00:25:38.130
I was before that experience I don't know who

00:25:38.130 --> 00:25:40.529
I was before that experience But I had had that

00:25:40.529 --> 00:25:42.670
experience the other experience at the church

00:25:42.670 --> 00:25:45.250
two weeks earlier So there was already something

00:25:45.250 --> 00:25:48.630
happening with me, but whoever I was before that

00:25:48.630 --> 00:25:51.730
experience It wasn't who I was after the experience

00:25:51.730 --> 00:25:54.269
So I'm telling these girls what happened to me

00:25:54.269 --> 00:25:56.730
and I'm like, you know, cuz in my head I'm thinking

00:25:56.730 --> 00:25:59.630
all I got to do is tell them about this experience

00:25:59.630 --> 00:26:02.500
and then they'll know And the same thing that

00:26:02.500 --> 00:26:04.339
happened to me will happen to them, you know,

00:26:04.339 --> 00:26:07.980
I had no, I just automatically assumed that.

00:26:08.500 --> 00:26:11.220
Well, that wasn't the response I got. In fact,

00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:14.180
these girls thought I lost my mind. They could

00:26:14.180 --> 00:26:17.960
not believe how I was talking. I don't know how

00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:20.859
I talked before, but they could not believe how

00:26:20.859 --> 00:26:24.799
I was talking. I immediately became somebody

00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:28.160
in the house that was the girls began to start

00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:31.619
feeling a little bit standoffish too. Because

00:26:31.619 --> 00:26:34.380
once that experience happened to me, I couldn't

00:26:34.380 --> 00:26:38.099
keep my mouth shut I could not stop talking about

00:26:38.099 --> 00:26:41.680
it Like it was day and night any person that

00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.339
would allow me to speak to them That is all I

00:26:45.339 --> 00:26:49.400
had to talk about because it was that Extreme

00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:52.859
for me nothing else in the whole entire world

00:26:52.859 --> 00:26:55.740
mattered anymore Except for that experience that

00:26:55.740 --> 00:26:58.670
I had and I needed to tell the whole world I

00:26:58.670 --> 00:27:01.829
actually ended up losing, I only had a handful

00:27:01.829 --> 00:27:03.990
of people that were in my life that I wouldn't

00:27:03.990 --> 00:27:06.869
necessarily would say friends, but they were

00:27:06.869 --> 00:27:10.390
people in my life. And they all cut me out of

00:27:10.390 --> 00:27:13.710
their life. Like literally, they cut me out of

00:27:13.710 --> 00:27:17.650
their life. I did not have one friend left of

00:27:17.650 --> 00:27:20.029
whoever was in my life before that experience.

00:27:20.690 --> 00:27:23.509
Now I know that I can be a little bit dramatic.

00:27:23.710 --> 00:27:27.089
and very pushy when i'm trying to like you know

00:27:27.089 --> 00:27:30.829
i'm like don't you see what i'm saying it was

00:27:30.829 --> 00:27:34.089
that extreme for me i left that place saying

00:27:34.089 --> 00:27:37.690
i can't wait to go back and tell everybody i

00:27:37.690 --> 00:27:40.250
i wasn't lying when i said that and that was

00:27:40.250 --> 00:27:43.690
all that came out of my mouth to anybody that

00:27:43.690 --> 00:27:46.789
i saw or talked to because i couldn't stop it

00:27:46.789 --> 00:27:52.230
was that powerful whatever that was so yeah that

00:27:52.230 --> 00:27:55.990
was my experience With that anyways, I've had

00:27:55.990 --> 00:27:58.849
so many. We'll talk about a couple other things,

00:27:59.710 --> 00:28:03.190
but do you, and I'm asking you to speculate here

00:28:03.190 --> 00:28:06.750
or just tell me your feelings. Do you feel like

00:28:06.750 --> 00:28:09.430
that is the place you are going back to after

00:28:09.430 --> 00:28:12.049
you die someday? I'm just going to be honest

00:28:12.049 --> 00:28:15.210
with you. I don't necessarily think that the

00:28:15.210 --> 00:28:19.710
trees, the flowers, the road, The grass, the

00:28:19.710 --> 00:28:22.730
building, the beings behind me, I don't think

00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:27.410
that that was necessarily a place. It was more

00:28:27.410 --> 00:28:31.150
of the feeling of that unconditional love. I

00:28:31.150 --> 00:28:35.329
knew that that's what I, I knew that was the

00:28:35.329 --> 00:28:39.890
home. It was more of what I was experiencing

00:28:39.890 --> 00:28:43.089
there rather than what I was seeing. In my own

00:28:43.089 --> 00:28:47.190
opinion, whatever that visual that I had of trees

00:28:47.190 --> 00:28:51.789
and flowers, that may exist somewhere, possibly,

00:28:52.490 --> 00:28:58.950
but I don't think that that is an actual physical

00:28:58.950 --> 00:29:03.180
place, I guess. I just know that that feeling

00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:06.539
of that unconditional love that permeated the

00:29:06.539 --> 00:29:09.720
place, the tones that were going on, the colors

00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:13.140
of the flowers, all of that, it was all one.

00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.900
It was all, everything was just one. I was one

00:29:16.900 --> 00:29:20.099
with it. It was one with me. It was all one together.

00:29:20.140 --> 00:29:25.119
It was just all one. And when I say that I knew

00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:30.200
that that was home, I don't mean the place itself.

00:29:30.490 --> 00:29:35.009
If that makes sense. It was the feeling of it.

00:29:35.190 --> 00:29:39.130
Yeah, it was just a feeling. So let me ask the

00:29:39.130 --> 00:29:42.349
question a different way then. Do you think that

00:29:42.349 --> 00:29:46.529
after you're done with this life, that you are

00:29:46.529 --> 00:29:50.130
going someplace where that's what you will feel

00:29:50.130 --> 00:29:53.130
again, that place you felt was home? Is that

00:29:53.130 --> 00:29:55.950
where you feel like you're going back to? 100%.

00:29:55.950 --> 00:30:00.130
I already know that. I 100 % know that. So you

00:30:00.130 --> 00:30:03.369
have no fear of death and obviously I don't have

00:30:03.369 --> 00:30:06.390
fear of actually dying I don't want to leave

00:30:06.390 --> 00:30:10.529
my children in a Devastated state that they lost

00:30:10.529 --> 00:30:13.150
their mother the feeling of knowing what it feels

00:30:13.150 --> 00:30:16.430
like to lose somebody That's what I fear. I'm

00:30:16.430 --> 00:30:18.650
like I have to be here for as long as I well

00:30:18.650 --> 00:30:20.390
I already know I'm gonna live to be at least

00:30:20.390 --> 00:30:22.829
a hundred I've always known that I've always

00:30:22.829 --> 00:30:25.630
said that I don't know how I know that but I'm

00:30:25.630 --> 00:30:28.190
gonna live to be at least a hundred so I I'm

00:30:28.190 --> 00:30:31.109
not really fully worried about it, but I do think

00:30:31.109 --> 00:30:33.930
about it from time to time. What if I was wrong

00:30:33.930 --> 00:30:36.930
my whole life? What if I do leave early? I'm

00:30:36.930 --> 00:30:39.690
like, oh my gosh, I just I don't ever want my

00:30:39.690 --> 00:30:42.069
children to ever have to feel that kind of pain.

00:30:42.349 --> 00:30:45.829
That's what gets me. Not the actual transition,

00:30:45.829 --> 00:30:48.710
because you don't there is no feeling of transition

00:30:48.710 --> 00:30:51.990
when you transition to the other side. There

00:30:51.990 --> 00:30:55.329
is you're here and then you're there. And it's

00:30:55.329 --> 00:30:59.799
instantaneously there is no in between. You don't

00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:03.640
feel death. There is no feeling in death. Death,

00:31:04.140 --> 00:31:07.319
in my opinion, is an illusion. I believe death

00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.640
is a made -up word by humans, and it's not something

00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:14.799
that really exists. We go from this existence

00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.059
to that existence instantaneously, and there

00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:22.019
is no feeling. Well, and as humans, I can see

00:31:22.019 --> 00:31:24.940
why we would make up the word because there is

00:31:24.940 --> 00:31:28.150
somebody or some animal or something. that was

00:31:28.150 --> 00:31:30.190
alive and moving a minute ago and now they're

00:31:30.190 --> 00:31:33.789
not any longer and that's all we know. So hence

00:31:33.789 --> 00:31:37.710
a word like that has to come into play. I know

00:31:37.710 --> 00:31:41.430
that you mentioned that you lost your friends

00:31:41.430 --> 00:31:43.710
after this. How else did it change your life

00:31:43.710 --> 00:31:47.930
and your personality? I never turned back to

00:31:47.930 --> 00:31:51.450
be honest with you. I have been full force with

00:31:51.450 --> 00:31:56.690
and have had many many other experiences not

00:31:56.690 --> 00:32:01.049
like that, but other experiences that had continued

00:32:01.049 --> 00:32:05.069
to happen to me and still continue to this day

00:32:05.069 --> 00:32:10.809
happen to me that are definitely outside the

00:32:10.809 --> 00:32:15.829
human vessel activity. Or inside. It's inside,

00:32:15.890 --> 00:32:19.069
but it's outside. I can't explain it. It's something

00:32:19.069 --> 00:32:24.220
that I'm well aware, I guess, about myself. I

00:32:24.220 --> 00:32:27.599
know that we're, we're, we're light beings, and

00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.480
I know that this is only a meat suit. You know

00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:33.079
what I mean? Like I under, I have the knowledge

00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.940
of knowing that which is within me, which is

00:32:36.940 --> 00:32:39.519
also without me, because it's, it's everything.

00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:43.220
That's why it's in and it's out, and that's the

00:32:43.220 --> 00:32:47.539
only way I can describe it. So I, I never stopped

00:32:47.539 --> 00:32:52.059
talking, but as I went more experiences and more

00:32:52.059 --> 00:32:54.619
experiences and more experiences were happening.

00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:57.480
So it went from that to talking about this to

00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.019
talking about that and talking about this and

00:33:00.019 --> 00:33:02.400
you know if I got into a real good conversation

00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:05.019
with somebody I'd revert back to my experience

00:33:05.019 --> 00:33:07.839
you know that happened at that time and and the

00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:11.339
experience that happened at the church but I

00:33:11.339 --> 00:33:13.900
never stopped talking this is my whole life.

00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:17.660
This is all I do. Like all my kids, I only have

00:33:17.660 --> 00:33:19.640
one of my kids that travels with me. The rest

00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.200
of my kids are adults, but he's 14 years old

00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.539
and he's heard it his whole entire life. He's

00:33:25.539 --> 00:33:27.599
heard me speak to every single person I walk

00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.480
into or end up having a conversation with. He's

00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.079
heard me say it to every single person I have

00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:35.839
a conversation with. All my kids. That's all

00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.710
that comes out of my mouth. And what do you find?

00:33:38.890 --> 00:33:41.130
Some people aren't ready to hear something like

00:33:41.130 --> 00:33:44.089
that, obviously. What kind of reactions do you

00:33:44.089 --> 00:33:47.869
get? I'll be honest with you. If I end up being

00:33:47.869 --> 00:33:50.630
in an encounter with a person, it's always for

00:33:50.630 --> 00:33:53.250
a specific reason and it has everything to do

00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:55.069
with whatever is going to come out of my mouth.

00:33:55.809 --> 00:34:00.190
Like I've never had anybody be like offended.

00:34:00.369 --> 00:34:04.470
I've never had anybody make any kind of derogatory

00:34:04.470 --> 00:34:09.829
comments. In fact, generally people are whatever

00:34:09.829 --> 00:34:14.190
it is, it goes on them, you know, just a little

00:34:14.190 --> 00:34:16.909
bit. This is strangers, okay? Not my friends,

00:34:17.130 --> 00:34:20.170
not people that knew me, whoever I was before,

00:34:20.469 --> 00:34:24.130
okay? These are complete strangers. When I went

00:34:24.130 --> 00:34:27.829
on the road, that was my main goal. Now I'm gonna

00:34:27.829 --> 00:34:31.590
reach as many people as I possibly can. And so

00:34:31.590 --> 00:34:35.079
anybody that I bumped into, it... Became like

00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:38.699
a conversation. That's what they heard and generally

00:34:38.699 --> 00:34:41.480
they're hugging me when they're leaving They're

00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:45.559
thanking me. They're gifting me. I can't I I

00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.519
don't think I've ever had a bad Encounter I'll

00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.539
be honest with you I don't think I've ever had

00:34:51.539 --> 00:34:54.059
a better bad encounter whoever I talked to they

00:34:54.059 --> 00:34:58.360
leave with something a piece a little grain sand

00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:02.099
piece of Whatever it is that I have now what

00:35:02.099 --> 00:35:05.139
they do with that is is you know I never see

00:35:05.139 --> 00:35:06.619
these people again so I don't know what they

00:35:06.619 --> 00:35:09.880
do with it but I can almost guarantee the way

00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:14.519
that they were reacting after the fact they probably

00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:16.719
will never forget about me for the rest of their

00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.619
life sounds like your mission in life is just

00:35:19.619 --> 00:35:24.460
to spread all of this all right Tammy there's

00:35:24.460 --> 00:35:27.579
actually So so so much more that we can talk

00:35:27.579 --> 00:35:29.159
about and we're gonna have you back on the show

00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:32.099
sometime To talk about some of these other things,

00:35:32.139 --> 00:35:34.159
but I feel like this is a good place to wrap

00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:36.940
this discussion But I want to give you the last

00:35:36.940 --> 00:35:39.500
word I want to give you a chance to leave everybody

00:35:39.500 --> 00:35:43.199
with a some kind of a message of hope Some positivity

00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.599
to brighten their day and their whole outlook

00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:50.119
on life right now Okay, so what I want to say

00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:55.880
is this earth supposed to be heaven on earth

00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.539
and if we can we can all just only grasp the

00:36:00.539 --> 00:36:05.159
message to love your neighbor as yourself true

00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.539
unconditional love and you ask who's your neighbor

00:36:08.539 --> 00:36:11.539
every single human being on the face of the earth

00:36:11.539 --> 00:36:14.480
that's who your neighbor is this is supposed

00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.139
to be heaven on earth right now and the earth

00:36:17.139 --> 00:36:21.630
is changing so many people are waking up So my

00:36:21.630 --> 00:36:25.469
message is wake up allow yourself to to wake

00:36:25.469 --> 00:36:28.389
up We all collectively together could change

00:36:28.389 --> 00:36:31.989
this whole planet beautiful Tammy Thank you so

00:36:31.989 --> 00:36:34.969
very much. If anybody wants to reach out to you

00:36:34.969 --> 00:36:37.949
We will stick a link to something of yours down

00:36:37.949 --> 00:36:41.170
in the show notes So that people can follow along

00:36:41.170 --> 00:36:43.150
a little bit more and we'll have you back again

00:36:43.150 --> 00:36:45.889
sometime. Thanks. All right. Perfect. Have a

00:36:45.889 --> 00:36:49.920
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