Pedestrian Hit By Truck Leads To NDE, Life Review, Angel

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Since the dawn of time, man's deepest questions

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have revolved around the reality of an afterlife.

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Of course, there's never been a way to know until

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now. Witnesses of the world beyond, hope in a

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better existence, overwhelming, unconditional

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love, real people, real experiences and a glimpse

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into the eternities. This is Round Trip Death.

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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody

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and we have a fun guest coming to us today. All

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the way from Northern California, Trent John

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Miller. How are you Trent? Good morning Noah,

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I'm doing great, thank you. I appreciate you

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being on the show. You've had an amazing experience

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that people are going to love hearing about.

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Before we jump into it, let's let people get

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to know who you are. So give us a couple of minutes

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on your background. Okay, awesome. Kind of a

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mid -rostering transplant. I enjoyed being outdoors,

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hanging out with my friends. I was very athletic,

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involved in swimming, lifeguard, all that. A

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swimming instructor. I at one point in my life

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got involved in the film industry and that's

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an interesting story in itself and I'll be sure

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to bring that up. But all in all, I'm just a

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fun -loving guy and now California good and that's

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about it. You're being very modest. 30 plus years

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in the film industry you've been in front of

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the camera a lot. Your IMDB looks pretty cool

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and that's another time for a whole other podcast

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though. Give me an idea, how long ago was it

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that your NDE happened and what led up to it?

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It was about 20 years ago, almost exactly really,

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2000. I had some interesting premonitions right

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prior to the accident itself. One thing was waking

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up from a dream, a very clear dream of running

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into a white wall. And I remember waking up and

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saying, I'm going to live. And I knew I was going

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to live. but I realized that my DNA was scrambled

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and that I was going to be somewhat of a different

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person. That later came into fruition and there

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are other things, premonitions that I had when

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I was younger and things that as I led up to

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the actual accident, they now make sense. Why

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do you think you had a premonition? Did it somehow

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help you through the experience? Yeah, in a way

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it kind of in reverse it helped explain what

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I was experiencing and why I was going through

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some of the unusual steps in the process after

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a near -death experience. There were even times

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where I was living my life in reverse where I

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had already been provided insight into my future

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with clarity and then being able to relive it

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in the physical world. that people distinguish

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as maybe daydreaming or dreams, premonitions.

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In a lot of cases, sometimes there's more behind

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those than just a possibility. Sometimes they

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become a reality. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry that

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yours did, I guess, because it sounded pretty

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horrific. Tell us what happened with the truck.

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Well, the day started off great. We had been

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filming out in the desert. This is at Stu Siegel

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Productions on Ruffin Road. And it was a career

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choice to be there because I really enjoyed working

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as a body double, stand in actor and stuntman.

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And every day was different. You never know what

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to expect, especially even when you know on the

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call sheet what you're going to be doing. Actors

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sometimes wouldn't show up or stuntmen wouldn't

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show up. And I was always the go to guy for for

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the show. And I never know when I was going to

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either be shot at or shoot at somebody or crash

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a car or jump in, roll a wig and jump off a roof

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and fight somebody. You know, always in an adrenaline

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rush and that I was able to do it for 30 years

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really made it exciting that every day was always

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a gift and something to be truly appreciated.

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It really wasn't to have happened being in Ohio

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because there was just no filming there. And

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I was given the opportunity from another Eric,

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Eric Chabot. who was going to school in San Diego,

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and he allowed me the opportunity to go out to

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California. He invited me to stay with him to

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get my footing. I had always wanted to be out

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there by the ocean, out by the beach, and enjoying

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the beautiful weather that California's known

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for, and also the excitement of being in the

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film industry. As not to jump... too far back,

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but I would have never gotten into the film industry

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if it wasn't for a really kind down in Kim that

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I was dating at the time who wanted to be a model.

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And she had set up an appointment with Betty

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McCormick and it was a creative talent management

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in Columbus, Ohio. So I said, I'll drive you.

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And I had a trans am at the time, a fibered formula

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and drove to drove her to the to this audition.

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And when I got there, Betty says, is this the

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young man? And I said, oh, no, no, no. This is

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for Kim. And Kim said, well, I kind of pulled

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a fast one on you, John. This is for you. I think

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you should be modeling and acting. And I told

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her, absolutely not. That's not a career choice

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for me. And Betty immediately said, well, how

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does $1 ,500 a day sound, John? And my jaw kind

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of opened up and I went, well. that I could get

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the new headers on my Firebird and I had all

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these ideas and plans. And I'm like, yeah, I

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could do this. So she said, well, we'll just

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get a headshot and I'll send you to auditions.

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It's that simple. Well, I did that. And pretty

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soon I'm doing Burger King commercials and I'm

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doing commercials for Shell Oil and Lazarus,

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which was a local department store. And every

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time I'd show up at the audition, I would get

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the job. And so doors were opening, unconventionally

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were opening for me. left and right. And I found

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that kind of interesting where you're always

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battling it out in an audition. And it seemed

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like every time if I just showed up, I got the

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job. Getting back to Eric and him inviting me

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out to California, I didn't really have a lot

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of money to make this move to California, but

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I kind of sold everything and I had a bug convertible

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at the time. And I put together a meager amount,

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$452, $51 in my pocket. and prepared to make

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the drive. Most people were laughing at me. My

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friends were making fun of me and my family.

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And you're not even going to make it, let alone

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survive in California. But I was really determined

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to make this happen. So I drove out. I was working

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at a record store at the time as a manager. And

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I had to let the owner know that I was going

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to walk away. I started the journey. I knew that

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time was not in my favor. So I needed to get

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to California as soon as possible and start working

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as soon as possible. I drove out. It kind of

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went pretty good. There was a problem in the

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desert. My bug overheated and I had to pull over

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by a cactus and hide and shade until it cooled

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down that night. But I did make it the following

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day into San Diego and met up with Eric. And

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I mean, they went to a mall bullocks men's store

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in San Diego. There's a. department store and

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got a job as a men's clothing salesman. So at

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least I had a job there to get started. And the

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following day I drove out to Stu Siegel Productions

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on Ruffin Road and they had a casting and I told

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them that I'd like to be in film. And in most

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cases they would just laugh at you because I

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had no resume other than some of the commercials

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I did in Ohio. The casting agent there I said,

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hey, you look a lot like Anthony Perkins. He's

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the gentleman from Psycho. He needs a body double

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for Monday and I need you to be there if you

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can start and be his body double. And I thought,

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oh my gosh, I'll leg up. And I didn't even know

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what a body double was, but I said, yeah, I will

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be there and I'll do it. So I showed up early

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that day and we filmed at the same bar that Top

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Gun was filmed at, all the bar scenes. And it

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was so interesting to be there around the camera

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and all the equipment and the people and the

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actors. I was so excited. I was hooked. And I

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knew that, you know, this was going to be like

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a short term, month long opportunity. And I wanted

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to make as many friends as possible. So I always

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showed up early. I was willing to help everybody

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and did so. I'd help pull cable. I'd help with

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the camera crew and haul the big lens packages,

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whatever it took. Made my friends. And long story

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short, I ended up parlaying that opportunity

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into a 30 -year career. I'm very lucky to have

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enjoyed an extended career working with some

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of the biggest names like Burt Reynolds and Chuck

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Norris. I got to fight with him in a movie called

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Top Dog. Burt Reynolds, Jerry Lewis, Rick Springfield.

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I was his body double. Rob Estes on Silk Stockings.

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That was a great group of individuals to work

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with. Pensacola, High Tide. All these shows were

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shows that were filmed at the studio. And so

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we were filming on this show called Manhattan

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Maze. And we had spent the week in the desert.

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We were back at the studio this day. And we had

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a whole bunch of animals that were being filmed

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inside the studio, including a large elephant,

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which was never that's the largest pachyderm

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largest animal living soul that had ever gone

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in the studio. And I happened to catch a photo

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of the elephant exiting. through the extras or

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the stage front and took a photograph which ended

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up being used for the studios advertising. And

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I was awful proud of that. So we get about a

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45 minute, for me 45 minute break, the whole

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crew gets an hour, but I need to be back a couple

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of minutes early to work with the camera crew

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to set up for the next shot, for the next scene.

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And this was a Friday right before 4th of July

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weekend. So I went out for a jog. I had my check

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in my pocket. I took off my shirt and I was a

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bodybuilder, so I wasn't bashful. And I did think

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it was just wearing my shorts and my tennis shoes.

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And I started to go for my run down to Claremont

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Mesa Boulevard and Ruffin Road. And at this time,

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there was no stoplights. Well, there was stoplights,

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but there was no traffic lights to allow you

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to cross at a safe point. You just pretty much

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made a beeline and hopefully nothing hits you.

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The weekend before 4th of July was I'm awful

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busy. So I'm going to make the move and I stopped

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and I went back and I'm, okay, hold on a minute.

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And I'm looking at the light and this Honda Accord

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pulls up with a bunch of young kids having a

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blast inside and they put their food all over

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the dash. I could see glasses and cups and straws.

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And I'm thinking these people aren't even looking

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over to see I'm gonna go behind them just outside

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the crosswalk and continue my walk. And as I

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did that, I noticed a flash out of the corner

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of my left eye. and a white Ford pickup truck

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struck me going about 40 miles an hour and my

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body went through the windshield, my face lacerating.

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I had never been hit so hard and that is where

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I understand where the premonition of being hit

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by a white wall came into play because it was

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a white truck. It was a wall of energy and It

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did scramble me. It scrambled me so much. I went

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flying through the air, through the intersection.

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People that were there, the witnesses and the

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police reports said that I went flying about

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20 feet in the air. And as I was flying through

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the air, I was just above the middle of the intersection.

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I saw my perspective change from my eyes to an

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overview of me flying through the air. I could

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see myself upside down. with my head facing the

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pavement, about 20 feet up in the air, looking

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down at the gentleman and his windshield knocked

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out on his phone. So you're looking down on the

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scene of what's happening to you? Yes, sir. Yes,

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sir. Looking down at the actual scene and out

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of body perspective. When that happens, does

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the pain and the shock automatically go away?

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I never had pain. I never took any medications.

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I was prescribed all these pain relievers. I

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think it was something immaculate. I definitely

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had some angelic or God's hand in on my accident

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because there was a immaculate healing that occurred.

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My bones were mending at an incredible rate.

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The doctors wanted to interview me after I was

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run over. was quite embarrassed being a body

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double and stuff. I didn't really, I was embarrassed

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about the whole incident that occurred. Little

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did I know how much it would change my life and

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my perspective on life itself. But at the time

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you had to have felt that truck, right? And that

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impact. So there should be immediate pain from

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that, you would think. And then as you're looking

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down, is that all gone? That was what I was referring

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to. It was calming. It was as if I had entered

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a meditative state, yet I was completely aware

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of what was going on around me at a broader sense,

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not just through my human vision, but from a

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perspective outside of my body of everything

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around that it was all of a sudden I went from

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my point of view to a worldly point of view of

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everything that was going around and I was no

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longer directly connected to my physical body,

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I was a free soul. I was outside my body, having

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an outer body experience. And as I was looking

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down, I just went up higher and higher until

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my perspective went to this white, mid white

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cloud. It was like a white room, white cloud

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that I was moving towards. As I was doing that,

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I could feel and see the darkness behind me.

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And darkness not as in like shaded darkness,

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but black, like void of love, void of all energy,

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the exact yin and yang, yin and yang of light

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versus darkness. And I could feel the presence

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behind me, though I was moving towards the light.

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And that was my primary focus, though I had no

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choice of the direction I was going. I was moving

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towards the light. without any control or condition.

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It was just inevitable. And as I entered inside

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this white room, kind of felt like I was in a

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cloud because there was no floor, there was no

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ceiling. I could not see any definition beyond

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this wonderful, warm, loving light that was surrounding

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me. And then I noticed an angel standing directly

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to my right who was no further than six feet,

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like the most eight feet. from me and she was

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looking at me and she was somewhat transparent,

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yet she was glowing with light and I could see

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all of her features. She was pretty and she was

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about maybe five feet tall and I could not see

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her feet. She was floating and cloaked with like

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a transparent veil. and yet I could see her hair.

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And again, she calmed me down immediately from

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the anxiousness that occurs when you're hit by

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a truck. She calmed me down and I immediately

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was comfortable in my surroundings and was able

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to start taking note of everything around me.

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And being that I was not unconscious and I was

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not on any medication of any type, I wasn't in

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the hospital, I was completely aware of everything

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around me. I was thinking, oh my goodness, I

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can hear her talking to me, her words. And I

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realized we were talking telepathically. And

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then I immediately thought, well, how am I doing

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this? No one taught me how to speak or how to

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hear telepathically. It just happened naturally

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once I was in heaven. She asked me to look and

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to watch this, and she turned. So I looked the

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same direction as she and I started to see visions

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from the right side of my life. And it started

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with a vision of me at Christmas time with my

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family. And I was a young boy, eight years old,

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maybe younger, with my brother and sister and

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mom and dad opening Christmas gifts around the

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Christmas tree. I could hear the wrapping opening

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up and I could smell the Christmas tree and the

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pine and even if you had bacon that morning,

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bacon and eggs, so you could smell the bacon.

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And it was surreal to see myself and be a spectator

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on this dimensional level of my experience, being

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so vivid and being exactly as I remembered it,

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yet not being a dream, but literally re -experiencing

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it, feelings and the memories, all very, very

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sharp and accurate to the way I remember it to

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be. And these visions continued on. It would

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fade into another vision in memory, all pleasant,

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all very positive. And I was always in attendance.

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I could see myself there in these visions and

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all the fun experiences in school, the girls

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I dated, the friendships I had, the exciting

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experiences and adventures. And each one had

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no time, had no limitations other than I was

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completely absorbed into the moments, both with

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emotion and all my senses. And the interesting

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thing was when she kind of faded, the angel faded

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to the background as I was watching these because

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it was so enthralling to see these memories coming

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forward and feeling them and experiencing them

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once again. It was a wonderful experience that

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I was involved and so enthralled by them that

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There's a misnomer in regards to you go to heaven

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and all of a sudden there's a disconnection to

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your worldly life that you just experienced in

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your physical body. All these things were vivid

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and accurate in my mind though I was in heaven

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and I was experiencing this new experience which

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was with this angel and having telepathy and

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having a conversation where there's no confusion

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or misunderstandings where your words have expression

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behind them. What you say and what you're experiencing

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and you're conveying with telepathy cannot be

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misunderstood. And it's always encapsulated with

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love. Up in heaven, you're surrounded by love

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and warmth and kindness. It felt like a comfortable,

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like you were wrapped in a warm blanket and everything

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is fine and there's no anxiety. If I could just

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interject a couple of questions, because I don't

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want to miss any of this detail. But I don't

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want to get so far down the road that we forget

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about some of these things that I'm really curious

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about. This going back and living some of these

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experiences, a lot of people have what we call

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a life review. And during the life review, there's

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usually a lot of these different circumstances

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and something to be learned from it. Yours, I

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don't know if you would classify it as that.

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I'm asking you. or if it's more like you are

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just reminiscing on all these wonderful happy

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memories, or if those things are even different,

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and they can be different. What do you think?

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That's a very good question, Eric. To me, it

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appeared to be somewhat of a life review, but

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that I didn't experience any negative or anything

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that I was ashamed of or anything that I saw

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that I felt as if I had made a mistake in my

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choices. They were all positive experiences.

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And one thing I can tell you this much, Eric,

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is that at no point did she interject or was

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there any form of judgment. It was me judging

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my experience on Earth and what all the different

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chapters that I had gone through and experienced.

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And at no point did I feel like there was any

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judgment other than my perception of what I was

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seeing. And at no point did I ever feel ashamed

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or negative or felt as if I had failed or made

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a mistake. It was all love and light and kindness

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and merely an encapsulation of the bright spots

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of like if you were to look at a diamond and

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see the beautiful shimmers and glimmering colors,

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that's kind of how it was. It was all beautiful.

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I love that. That is really beautiful. In a life

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review, there's always something to be learned.

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Did you feel like, and I appreciate you saying

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there wasn't shame and guilt and judgment. Everybody

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tells me that same thing. And that is a relief

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because we're all going to take some baggage

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with us that we could feel some of those feelings.

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But when you're feeling pure love, those kinds

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of negative feelings tend to go away. So I'm

00:23:47.420 --> 00:23:51.140
glad you got to experience that. At the same

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time, you can also learn from those things. Do

00:23:53.500 --> 00:23:55.680
you feel like you learned little lessons as you

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were going through those reviews? Most definitely.

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There was a certain level of... Well, let's just

00:24:02.380 --> 00:24:05.019
say that if positive energies can get into your

00:24:05.019 --> 00:24:09.339
mind and show you and you can experience love

00:24:09.339 --> 00:24:12.220
and kindness and generosity and connections,

00:24:12.380 --> 00:24:14.519
there's also negative energies that can come

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into your mind and... I don't know if they have

00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:20.799
a name for those, but like demonic energies that

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can come in. I think it's important that humans

00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:26.599
can discern on earth when you're hearing voices

00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:28.380
and things that are not of a healthy nature.

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In heaven, there were no dark voices that was

00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:36.500
all very positive, very loving, and full of bright

00:24:36.500 --> 00:24:40.859
light. But on earth, you can hear voices that

00:24:40.859 --> 00:24:42.619
will say, well, go for it. No one's watching.

00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:44.640
Take that piece of candy. No one's going to notice.

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In heaven, it is all noticed. And it's when you

00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:50.799
don't think that you're being noticed, as I took

00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:54.680
a collection of, is when you're noticed the most,

00:24:54.740 --> 00:24:56.660
is when you don't think you're being watched.

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That's when God and angels are monitoring you

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closer, because your mind is functioning in an

00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:07.099
undeterred state. It's just you. So I highly

00:25:07.099 --> 00:25:09.799
recommend that you do your best to listen to

00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:12.779
the voices that, because there is no getting

00:25:12.779 --> 00:25:15.289
away with anything in life. And I think that

00:25:15.289 --> 00:25:18.210
I always had a healthy angel and a healthy, positive

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outlook in my voices, in my mind that I would

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always defer from going and doing anything negative.

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And I was lucky enough to follow that rules and

00:25:28.730 --> 00:25:32.690
that law of life in my mind growing up. So I

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did not have anything to regret. And any moments

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in my life or in my life review as you speak

00:25:39.910 --> 00:25:44.170
that I was ashamed of. Okay, let's jump back

00:25:44.170 --> 00:25:46.809
to where we were before I so rudely interrupted

00:25:46.809 --> 00:25:52.630
you. You were talking about this beautiful angel

00:25:52.630 --> 00:25:55.849
and the pure communication and the love that

00:25:55.849 --> 00:25:57.890
you were feeling. Why don't you continue there?

00:25:58.529 --> 00:26:02.549
So as I look at her and we're having these conversations,

00:26:02.950 --> 00:26:07.450
I was thinking in my mind, if I hear her, she's

00:26:07.450 --> 00:26:10.380
hearing me. And so I was very cognizant of what

00:26:10.380 --> 00:26:13.460
I was thinking when I was speaking with her as

00:26:13.460 --> 00:26:16.539
to the incredible, magnificent moment that I

00:26:16.539 --> 00:26:19.819
was sharing and communicating with the angel.

00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:23.079
She again is guiding me. And I was thinking in

00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:27.420
my mind that just 10 seconds ago, it seemed like

00:26:27.420 --> 00:26:31.440
it was hours ago, though in heaven, there is

00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:35.619
no time. We perceive time here on Earth as our

00:26:35.619 --> 00:26:42.259
linear way to to justify these experiences. But

00:26:42.259 --> 00:26:45.460
in heaven, it's all happening simultaneously,

00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:50.039
the past, the future, the present. And there's

00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:54.700
nothing more important or anything more significant

00:26:54.700 --> 00:26:57.700
than living in the present moment. That's the

00:26:57.700 --> 00:27:01.039
closest thing you'll get to heaven is when you

00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:04.900
are here on earth. And if it's during a conversation

00:27:04.900 --> 00:27:08.670
or sharing a moment with an animal or a person

00:27:08.670 --> 00:27:12.430
that you love and touching them and sharing this

00:27:12.430 --> 00:27:17.309
energy, that the present moment is the significant

00:27:17.309 --> 00:27:21.009
component that allows you to make these differences,

00:27:21.450 --> 00:27:25.509
to make movements on this physical plane that

00:27:25.509 --> 00:27:28.210
you're experiencing in the earthly realm with

00:27:28.210 --> 00:27:31.390
your physical body. So I can never stress enough

00:27:31.390 --> 00:27:35.140
to anyone that I speak to or speak with. that

00:27:35.140 --> 00:27:38.640
you need to be completely present to put the

00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.200
phone down, not to be distracted by anything

00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.619
other than the gift of love and the gift of that

00:27:45.619 --> 00:27:48.339
moment that you're sharing with others. And it

00:27:48.339 --> 00:27:51.640
could be with a cat or a dog or anyone it is,

00:27:51.779 --> 00:27:55.799
but that I really find that to be a significant

00:27:55.799 --> 00:28:02.440
component of extending your moments into a history

00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:07.109
of love, kindness and positive experience that

00:28:07.109 --> 00:28:09.250
you can look back on and it can only be done

00:28:09.250 --> 00:28:12.490
in the present moment when you are here and aware.

00:28:13.130 --> 00:28:15.450
So getting back to that wonderful angel and sharing

00:28:15.450 --> 00:28:18.569
that moment with her, I thought that the experience,

00:28:18.869 --> 00:28:22.569
this life experience, had completed itself because

00:28:22.569 --> 00:28:24.470
the last thing I remember is flying through the

00:28:24.470 --> 00:28:28.250
air and that's where I turned to look at her

00:28:28.250 --> 00:28:33.460
and wait for the next guidance from her. And

00:28:33.460 --> 00:28:35.359
she said, hold on, there's something else I need

00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:39.259
to show you. So I went back, I looked where I

00:28:39.259 --> 00:28:42.940
was watching my life experience, and I saw this

00:28:42.940 --> 00:28:46.799
green, beautiful grassy knoll, a woman standing

00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.759
there with her back to me playing baseball with

00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:52.359
this little boy. And the boy's about eight years

00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:55.619
old. And I knew who they were, though I had not

00:28:55.619 --> 00:29:00.160
experienced this yet. This was something in the

00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.700
physical world to be my future. But I was not

00:29:03.700 --> 00:29:06.839
there, and I was very aware of that, that I was

00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:09.200
not present, yet I'm watching this beautiful

00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:12.259
woman and this boy play baseball. I turned to

00:29:12.259 --> 00:29:15.559
her, and I knew who they were, that it was my

00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:19.920
future wife and my future son. And I turned to

00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:22.880
her, and I asked her, where am I? And she told

00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:27.640
me that I no longer exist, and that it's usually

00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:34.769
difficult to think of this moment. Yeah. She

00:29:34.769 --> 00:29:38.609
said, you no longer exist and that I wanted to

00:29:38.609 --> 00:29:41.150
be there so much. This was the most significant

00:29:41.150 --> 00:29:44.730
point of the whole black experience. And I asked

00:29:44.730 --> 00:29:48.450
her, well, I need to be there. And you gave me

00:29:48.450 --> 00:29:51.789
the opportunity to see this possibility. And

00:29:51.789 --> 00:29:53.869
I always wanted to be married and I always wanted

00:29:53.869 --> 00:29:58.049
a child. She turned and looked right in my eyes

00:29:58.049 --> 00:30:01.329
and asked me if this was my choice. And I said,

00:30:01.410 --> 00:30:03.990
yes, this is my choice. And the next thing I

00:30:03.990 --> 00:30:07.210
know, I'm back in my physical body on earth.

00:30:08.390 --> 00:30:12.490
And I realized that you have free choice in life

00:30:12.490 --> 00:30:16.869
and in heaven, that you're not just taken and

00:30:16.869 --> 00:30:21.029
placed places and moved about like a figure on

00:30:21.029 --> 00:30:24.690
a chessboard, that you honestly can, you have

00:30:24.690 --> 00:30:27.309
choices that you can make yourself and that you

00:30:27.309 --> 00:30:30.970
are in control of your destiny. So choose wisely

00:30:30.970 --> 00:30:35.430
on how you interact with others and especially

00:30:35.430 --> 00:30:38.210
during the present moment. And again, the next

00:30:38.210 --> 00:30:41.190
thing I know, I'm back in my physical body exactly

00:30:41.190 --> 00:30:45.569
where I left it and gone into heaven and realizing

00:30:45.569 --> 00:30:48.430
that I was upside down and that my head was facing

00:30:48.430 --> 00:30:51.170
the pavement and that I'd better be very careful

00:30:51.170 --> 00:30:54.950
in the next split second to get my hands behind

00:30:54.950 --> 00:30:56.750
me or I'm going to crack my head open on the

00:30:56.750 --> 00:31:01.369
pavement. And I did so and I ended up fracturing

00:31:01.369 --> 00:31:05.869
both my wrists on impact and whipping a lot of

00:31:05.869 --> 00:31:09.009
the flesh from my palms of my hand on impact.

00:31:09.549 --> 00:31:12.869
But I immediately jumped up and was elated that

00:31:12.869 --> 00:31:16.049
I was alive and that I was back on earth. I had

00:31:16.049 --> 00:31:18.410
so much going through my mind and through my

00:31:18.410 --> 00:31:21.250
heart. Most of it was just an appreciation and

00:31:21.250 --> 00:31:26.430
an incredible love for life and for being here.

00:31:26.490 --> 00:31:29.210
being surrounded by all these souls. My perspective

00:31:29.210 --> 00:31:32.230
had completely changed from the moment before

00:31:32.230 --> 00:31:35.210
when I was in my physical body having my life

00:31:35.210 --> 00:31:38.210
experience with this angel and then coming back

00:31:38.210 --> 00:31:41.430
to earth. And it's kind of like the scenario

00:31:41.430 --> 00:31:43.410
where someone said, if you knew that you only

00:31:43.410 --> 00:31:47.150
had one day to live, how would you live that

00:31:47.150 --> 00:31:50.529
day? And I have been living my life ever since

00:31:50.529 --> 00:31:55.329
as if it is one day that I have to live. And

00:31:55.329 --> 00:31:58.529
I am so appreciative to have been back and allowed

00:31:58.529 --> 00:32:02.829
to come back to earth and to help others, guide

00:32:02.829 --> 00:32:06.269
others through the process, which is beautiful.

00:32:06.369 --> 00:32:10.049
The process of passing and moving on and that

00:32:10.049 --> 00:32:12.289
I was able to come back and be a voice for God

00:32:12.289 --> 00:32:16.029
and be a voice for heaven and for the angelic

00:32:16.029 --> 00:32:19.589
realm is an honor and a gift. And I'm very lucky.

00:32:20.309 --> 00:32:23.519
So every day I wake up as if it's my last. And

00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:27.200
it's my first. And I will always do nothing but

00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.980
lead with love and kindness and appreciation

00:32:30.980 --> 00:32:35.160
and also the humility of we are all here doing

00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:39.119
our best as spirits and human bodies to have

00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.460
a wonderful and having positive experience. And

00:32:41.460 --> 00:32:45.500
it's up to us. We have a responsibility to each

00:32:45.500 --> 00:32:48.420
other, to all the animals on this planet and

00:32:48.420 --> 00:32:51.420
to the planet itself to treat it with respect

00:32:51.420 --> 00:32:55.440
and love. and kindness. Anything outside of that,

00:32:55.500 --> 00:32:58.299
politics and religion, none of those were there

00:32:58.299 --> 00:33:01.160
in heaven. I didn't experience any of that materialism.

00:33:01.180 --> 00:33:04.000
None of that existed. None of that was even shown

00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.680
to me during my life experience. It was only

00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.380
the moments shared with other living souls that

00:33:09.380 --> 00:33:12.400
had any significance or any meaning. In high

00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.380
regard, I really want people to understand that

00:33:15.380 --> 00:33:18.519
that is why we're here and that that is the purpose

00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:22.000
is to love each other. and to treat each other

00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:26.180
with understanding and kindness. Thank you. What

00:33:26.180 --> 00:33:28.920
a beautiful philosophy. I have a few more questions

00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.160
for you, but before I move on to those, were

00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:36.559
there any other details of this experience out

00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.819
of body that you remember that you'd like to

00:33:38.819 --> 00:33:42.599
share? It's important to understand that the

00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:44.940
out -of -body experience and the experience of

00:33:44.940 --> 00:33:48.819
passing is not like you're thrown into this world

00:33:48.819 --> 00:33:52.740
of the unknown. You have no control in what's

00:33:52.740 --> 00:33:55.400
happening. You have complete control of what

00:33:55.400 --> 00:34:00.299
is happening in the spirit realm. The distractions

00:34:00.299 --> 00:34:04.900
of materialism, the distractions of ego and the

00:34:04.900 --> 00:34:07.680
distractions of things that have absolutely no

00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:10.199
value or any meaning, which are presented here

00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:12.440
on earth, you realize none of those have any

00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.280
value. and that when you have the outer body

00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.480
experience, it's almost a clarity of what truly

00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.500
matters and what truly is a reason for being

00:34:22.500 --> 00:34:26.760
here. And it's so simple. It's a single focus

00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:31.639
of love, which encapsulates compassion and understanding.

00:34:31.860 --> 00:34:36.440
And all of that is clearly presented and clearly

00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:41.000
defined the moment that you leave your physical

00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:44.260
body and the earthly realm all the distractions

00:34:44.260 --> 00:34:49.300
dissipate and go away. Yeah. So I'm really curious.

00:34:49.780 --> 00:34:53.380
You saw while you were there, your future wife

00:34:53.380 --> 00:34:57.460
and child. When you finally met your wife, did

00:34:57.460 --> 00:35:01.380
you recognize her? Yes, I did. I knew who she

00:35:01.380 --> 00:35:04.920
was. I was working out at the at the club at

00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.920
the. For fitness at the time, I used to work

00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.869
hard every day because that was my job. She was

00:35:10.869 --> 00:35:14.429
there working out and she had a complete purple

00:35:14.429 --> 00:35:19.329
hue around her. It was like an unbelievable purple

00:35:19.329 --> 00:35:23.610
like glow around her and something inside my

00:35:23.610 --> 00:35:26.809
mind said approach her and I don't even know

00:35:26.809 --> 00:35:29.010
why or the reasoning behind it other than I was

00:35:29.010 --> 00:35:32.010
overwhelmed and I just got up and walked right

00:35:32.010 --> 00:35:37.420
over to her and Said hello. My name is John And

00:35:37.420 --> 00:35:39.159
I said, you need to hold it down, because you're

00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:41.659
making us guys look bad over here. Because she

00:35:41.659 --> 00:35:45.300
was exercising, and she was so focused. And she

00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:47.460
started laughing. And I thought to myself, oh

00:35:47.460 --> 00:35:49.519
my gosh, that has got to be the dumbest thing

00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.320
I've ever said. And I was almost somewhat embarrassed.

00:35:53.300 --> 00:35:56.179
In the moment, it was that I was to approach

00:35:56.179 --> 00:35:59.260
her. I was to acknowledge her. It's funny how

00:35:59.260 --> 00:36:03.599
the spirit world and the angels and God take

00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:07.219
control of the important things. And all you

00:36:07.219 --> 00:36:09.920
need to do is trust that everything will work

00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:13.460
out. And in that moment, I learned to trust in

00:36:13.460 --> 00:36:16.139
love. I just wondered if you had walked up and

00:36:16.139 --> 00:36:21.360
said, by the way, I had this experience and you're

00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.900
going to be my future wife. Yeah, probably better

00:36:23.900 --> 00:36:26.280
to hold off on that for a bit. That one was going

00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:29.619
to hold off on a little bit. It all came together

00:36:29.619 --> 00:36:31.840
in a way. But can you imagine Eric having this

00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.510
experience knowing the significance of of you

00:36:36.510 --> 00:36:39.829
marrying this woman. And all of these thoughts

00:36:39.829 --> 00:36:42.789
are going through my mind and it was so overwhelming

00:36:42.789 --> 00:36:46.150
that everything in that moment was tied to me

00:36:46.150 --> 00:36:49.750
being able to have a child, having my son, Dylan,

00:36:50.230 --> 00:36:54.150
who is a gift in my life. Her name was Gina Geese

00:36:54.150 --> 00:36:57.050
at the time, was a gift in my life and a chapter

00:36:57.050 --> 00:37:00.739
that I am so blessed to have experienced. that

00:37:00.739 --> 00:37:03.940
love and the opportunity to have a child with

00:37:03.940 --> 00:37:06.659
her. We ended up living up on that ranch and

00:37:06.659 --> 00:37:09.840
I ended up playing baseball with my son and this

00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:13.019
woman that I married up on that ranch. And everything

00:37:13.019 --> 00:37:16.699
came through exactly as I had dreamt or as I

00:37:16.699 --> 00:37:20.400
had experienced in heaven. But I had to live

00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:24.440
for a year or so knowing the future and living

00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.300
it backwards. And I was so concerned that I would

00:37:27.300 --> 00:37:30.090
do the wrong thing or say the wrong thing. that

00:37:30.090 --> 00:37:32.809
she would not want to marry me and that all this

00:37:32.809 --> 00:37:35.789
opportunity would have never come into fruition.

00:37:36.429 --> 00:37:39.710
And that was the hardest year of my life because

00:37:39.710 --> 00:37:43.969
I realized the significance of my actions, though

00:37:43.969 --> 00:37:47.769
everything worked out very smoothly and that

00:37:47.769 --> 00:37:51.130
there was no need for me to have concerns as

00:37:51.130 --> 00:37:54.969
if the angels and God had taken care of this

00:37:54.969 --> 00:37:56.969
and that it was all going to work out the way

00:37:56.969 --> 00:38:00.769
I had been shown. within a year, we were engaged

00:38:00.769 --> 00:38:04.130
and married. Though, you know, we have my son

00:38:04.130 --> 00:38:07.289
now who's older and he is the gift in my life,

00:38:07.789 --> 00:38:10.110
we did not remain married, though we are best

00:38:10.110 --> 00:38:13.030
friends and we are, to this day, we talk often

00:38:13.030 --> 00:38:17.210
and our primary concerns and relationship is

00:38:17.210 --> 00:38:20.110
based on making sure that we provide for our

00:38:20.110 --> 00:38:22.449
son, right, still bounce things off of her whenever

00:38:22.449 --> 00:38:25.320
there's life changes and things in her. her opinion

00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.480
in her life means much to me, and I really wish

00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.900
her the very best, though I think God has kind

00:38:31.900 --> 00:38:35.440
of put me on a different path at this time, a

00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:40.659
very powerful spiritual path that is still, let's

00:38:40.659 --> 00:38:46.000
say, unwinding and opening as I do my best to

00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.739
follow in what I experienced in Heaven. We're

00:38:49.739 --> 00:38:52.519
all on that. But you had that couple of years,

00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.420
it was like, just don't blow it, just don't blow

00:38:54.420 --> 00:38:57.880
it. Exactly. I know what's coming if I just don't

00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:02.000
mess it up. How old is your son now? He's 22.

00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:06.659
Shout out to Dylan. Hello, Dylan. He'll greatly

00:39:06.659 --> 00:39:08.920
appreciate that. He and I have a friendship.

00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.059
I've never seen myself as a father. He never

00:39:12.059 --> 00:39:17.039
needed a dad. He just needed love. And he has

00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.829
exceeded expectations in regards to our relationship

00:39:20.829 --> 00:39:24.289
and we just have a close friendship as if he's

00:39:24.289 --> 00:39:27.309
my best buddy and that everything that we do

00:39:27.309 --> 00:39:30.929
and share together, we're always laughing and

00:39:30.929 --> 00:39:34.269
having a good time. I am so blessed with every

00:39:34.269 --> 00:39:37.570
day that I get to share with him. I'm aware of

00:39:37.570 --> 00:39:41.449
that and I never hesitate to tell him from my

00:39:41.449 --> 00:39:44.550
heart that I love him and that I appreciate him

00:39:44.550 --> 00:39:47.670
and that there was so much that I learned from

00:39:47.670 --> 00:39:51.949
him. not just as an adult bringing up a younger

00:39:51.949 --> 00:39:56.150
son, but as a friend who I've learned as much

00:39:56.150 --> 00:39:58.889
from him as I have been able to instruct from

00:39:58.889 --> 00:40:01.929
my perspective. I can so relate to all that.

00:40:02.510 --> 00:40:05.789
I mentioned to you about Will, my son, early

00:40:05.789 --> 00:40:08.809
on. He's just a little bit older than that. And

00:40:08.809 --> 00:40:11.489
here's what you have to look forward to. Dylan,

00:40:12.289 --> 00:40:16.829
his wife, partner, whatever, may have a child

00:40:16.829 --> 00:40:20.960
someday. Like wills did last summer and that's

00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.539
softly special too. So you've got that to look

00:40:23.539 --> 00:40:27.039
forward to as well Trust me. It's pretty cool.

00:40:27.300 --> 00:40:29.980
I I always say that like oh my gosh, I'm excited

00:40:29.980 --> 00:40:32.480
for the future but then I'm thinking well if

00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:38.920
I say anything that may put a Outside a pressure

00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:42.320
or premonition on on what he is to achieve because

00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.079
sometimes I wonder about the egg or the chicken

00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:48.349
what came first because Again, I learned so much

00:40:48.349 --> 00:40:51.650
from my son that I'm always thinking I don't

00:40:51.650 --> 00:40:55.050
want to change his perspective because he has

00:40:55.050 --> 00:40:58.949
gifts that amaze me to this day. And I wonder

00:40:58.949 --> 00:41:02.429
was it he or I that was meant to come back and

00:41:02.429 --> 00:41:05.989
to make a difference and to express wholeheartedly

00:41:05.989 --> 00:41:09.969
the significance of being a soul in a human body

00:41:09.969 --> 00:41:13.489
and sharing in the gift of the human experience

00:41:13.489 --> 00:41:16.090
here on Earth. Good question. Okay, a couple

00:41:16.090 --> 00:41:19.070
more quick questions. I want to hear just a little

00:41:19.070 --> 00:41:21.750
bit more about this angel. You described a little

00:41:21.750 --> 00:41:24.369
bit that she was beautiful and what she was wearing.

00:41:25.250 --> 00:41:28.630
Did you ever get a feeling like she was some

00:41:28.630 --> 00:41:32.030
kind of relation to you? She was assigned to

00:41:32.030 --> 00:41:34.909
you as a guide. What else did you feel from her?

00:41:35.369 --> 00:41:41.230
I felt that she was the epitome of what I thought

00:41:41.230 --> 00:41:44.590
an angel would be. if I were to meet one. And

00:41:44.590 --> 00:41:47.769
so I don't know if I have a bias because what

00:41:47.769 --> 00:41:50.590
I feel comfortable and what I see or thought

00:41:50.590 --> 00:41:53.690
as a young boy going to a Lutheran church and

00:41:53.690 --> 00:41:57.409
seeing Jesus up on the cross and I always wondered

00:41:57.409 --> 00:42:01.050
what the experience would be like being crucified.

00:42:01.630 --> 00:42:04.849
I always was concerned about that and it ended

00:42:04.849 --> 00:42:08.230
up that I was, in a way, and being able to come

00:42:08.230 --> 00:42:11.559
back. and to relive and to come back from a near

00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:14.280
-death experience. That the angel was everything

00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:18.300
that I thought that she would be loving, light,

00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:24.019
and reassuring of my path, and she was everything

00:42:24.019 --> 00:42:28.719
that I envisioned her to be. And I felt so comfortable

00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:32.260
as if I had been here before, I had done this

00:42:32.260 --> 00:42:35.860
before in heaven, and that I remembered everything.

00:42:36.630 --> 00:42:39.489
that we try to experience, that we try to achieve

00:42:39.489 --> 00:42:43.289
here on Earth. Having the ability to speak with

00:42:43.289 --> 00:42:46.070
her telepathically, if we could do that here

00:42:46.070 --> 00:42:49.190
on Earth, how many things could be disregarded

00:42:49.190 --> 00:42:52.489
in the mistakes of thoughts and voices and words

00:42:52.489 --> 00:42:55.469
that people say that are misinterpreted between

00:42:55.469 --> 00:42:58.730
humans. There was no misinterpretation with the

00:42:58.730 --> 00:43:01.449
angel. She and I spoke with complete clarity,

00:43:01.730 --> 00:43:05.420
which made me feel so at ease and so loved. Well,

00:43:05.420 --> 00:43:08.460
in my understanding of that telepathic communication,

00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:12.260
as you've explained it and as other people have

00:43:12.260 --> 00:43:16.179
explained it, it may not necessarily be in words

00:43:16.179 --> 00:43:19.519
but more of a transfer of meaning, which is why

00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.820
there's no misinterpretation. I mean, in this

00:43:22.820 --> 00:43:25.079
life we often use the wrong words and a word

00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:27.440
I say to you might mean something different to

00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:32.400
somebody else. So when we can just lovingly transfer

00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.860
some kind of meaning back and forth, Perfect

00:43:35.860 --> 00:43:38.639
communication. We would have perfect marriages.

00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:41.219
We would have perfect relationships with everybody

00:43:41.219 --> 00:43:44.420
here if we could just do that. How much fear

00:43:44.420 --> 00:43:47.940
of death do you have? Absolutely none. My wife

00:43:47.940 --> 00:43:49.739
used to get so mad at me. She'd say, you are

00:43:49.739 --> 00:43:53.480
walking right in the path of that vehicle. And

00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:54.960
she grabbed me and pulled me out of the way.

00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:57.780
I have absolutely no fear of death at all. I

00:43:57.780 --> 00:44:01.019
would not ask it. because I realized the gift

00:44:01.019 --> 00:44:03.320
of me being here and that I'm making incremental

00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.840
changes in my life and in the life of others

00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.039
by even speaking with you now and expressing

00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:12.199
that the near -death experience and the death

00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:15.300
experience itself is a positive experience and

00:44:15.300 --> 00:44:18.539
in no way is it negative. Of course, it's difficult

00:44:18.539 --> 00:44:20.800
for those who are still existing when you lose

00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.199
a loved one, and that's understandable. But from

00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:28.110
the loved one's perspective, Be it heaven or

00:44:28.110 --> 00:44:31.349
hell you choose how you will live that be it

00:44:31.349 --> 00:44:33.969
in heaven or here on earth You can choose to

00:44:33.969 --> 00:44:38.510
live in heaven here on earth That that you know

00:44:38.510 --> 00:44:41.050
the significance of the present moment. I cannot

00:44:41.050 --> 00:44:45.670
express that enough that if you can take a couple

00:44:45.670 --> 00:44:48.869
deep breaths and When you get excited or you

00:44:48.869 --> 00:44:51.610
get angry or that you're ready to say something

00:44:51.610 --> 00:44:54.650
that you may regret To take a couple breaths

00:44:54.650 --> 00:45:00.440
breathe deep and allow your earthly mouth to

00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.860
say the words that are almost cannot be mistaken

00:45:04.860 --> 00:45:08.519
by anything other than love and kindness and

00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:11.639
generosity and understanding because only in

00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:14.000
the present moment can you perform miracles and

00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.780
that's what you're here to do is to experience

00:45:16.780 --> 00:45:21.300
miracles and to be a fulcrum, a pendulum of providing

00:45:21.300 --> 00:45:23.699
miracles to others but it's only done in the

00:45:23.699 --> 00:45:26.829
present moment. You can't do it in forethought

00:45:26.829 --> 00:45:30.409
or in reflection of the past. Those energies

00:45:30.409 --> 00:45:34.949
are no longer in the active realm of your ability

00:45:34.949 --> 00:45:38.010
to be in the present moment and to perform miracles.

00:45:38.710 --> 00:45:41.170
Trent John Miller, thank you for being with me

00:45:41.170 --> 00:45:43.869
today. Thank you for opening up and sharing some

00:45:43.869 --> 00:45:46.070
of these really deep things. I appreciate it.

00:45:46.489 --> 00:45:50.059
Thank you, Eric. Thanks again for listening and

00:45:50.059 --> 00:45:52.420
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