April 6, 2026

"I'm Home" - Jason's NDE Due To Covid - "You Are Loved"

"I'm Home" - Jason's NDE Due To Covid - "You Are Loved"
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**CONTROVERSY ALERT: If you listen to the end of this NDE, you might be surprised (maybe even offended) at some of the things that Jason has to say about religion and the Bible *

Jason Janis shares his near-death experience (NDE) from April 2020, when rapidly growing tumors burst in his lungs and filled them with 2.8 liters of blood.

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Pronounced dead and resuscitated after his heart stopped, Jason spent a month in the ICU — and during that time had a profound out-of-body experience (OBE) in which he felt he merged with God and encountered Jesus.

A lifelong skeptic who had abandoned God at age nine after a violent, abusive childhood, Jason returned from his NDE transformed. He now speaks about unconditional love, the absence of judgment on the other side, spirit guides, life contracts, reincarnation, and the ongoing spiritual odyssey — including homelessness, angelic encounters, and quantum timeline shifts — that has defined his post-NDE years.

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From the time that they pronounced me that was

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a good 45 minutes They cut my clothes and then

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they paddled my heart my heart stopped and I

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could see people screaming and crying But I didn't

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realize that was actually my physical body because

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I was somewhere else The only thing that I could

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feel if you can imagine Absolute love and peace

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there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was

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greeted by people I'd known in the past I'm back

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home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.

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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody

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and our very special guest today, Jason Janis.

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Hey, I'm so grateful you're with me this morning.

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How are you? I'm doing fantastic. Thank you for

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having me. I'm honored. Thank you. I'm going

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to give sort of a brief outline for everybody.

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We're going to hear Jason's beautiful NDE. And

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then we're going to talk about a whole bunch

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of things he's learned since then. And then I'm

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going to put on kind of my devil's advocate hat

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and ask some hard questions. Jason has agreed

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to that already upfront, and he's in fact happy

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about it. So we're going to get into some of

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the things that maybe you are wondering about

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when we get to that point. But first, hey, Jason,

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tell us a little bit about you. Yeah, my name

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is Jason Janis. I was born April 28, 1970 in

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a Midwestern town in Illinois. You know, a Gen

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-Xer, but it was the 70s. Again, I'm just a Midwestern

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town. But from an early age, I just never fit

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in. I was very, very deeply loving little boy.

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Didn't understand it. I always got my feelings

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hurt. Didn't really fit in with a lot of the

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kids, even though I did have some friends. But

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I always felt left out, right? Nobody wanted

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to be a really close friend or school was tough.

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Finding schoolmates was tough growing up. When

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I went into fifth and sixth grade, I got pulled

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out of public school and shoved into a Christian

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school for two years. So I had that atmosphere

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shoved down my throat. I grew up Catholic and

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Christian. So that was the only language that

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I knew getting thrown into that school. really

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ram rotted that bad information down. Again,

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and I moved to Wisconsin in 1980. I got more

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friends and stuff, but it was always, I always

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felt left out. I've always felt like I didn't

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belong here. And I still feel that way to this

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day, very strongly, even more so now. But it

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was a very difficult childhood, right? I grew

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up with a very abusive parents, mostly my mother.

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My parents got divorced very early on seven years

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seven years old I think it was my mother was

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not a fun alcoholic very abusive I mean mentally

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abusive. I was physically beaten very beaten

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I tried to save my sister from the beating so

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I learned very early on to get her up get her

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dressed when she was three years old and You

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didn't make a sound if you made a sound. I don't

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care if you pooped the bed wet the bed She walked

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down you got beat beat so we'd sit inches from

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the TV with that volume down and I would make

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her her breakfast and cereal get her dressed

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and we'd go outside and play that was the kind

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of Early childhood that I grew up in then as

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a teenager I went to live with my father that

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really stopped but it was you know in the formative

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years So it was a very abusive household I learned

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how to take care of myself, basically, in other

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words, right? Get up, get dressed, cook. When

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I'd go visit my grandparents, my grandmother

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especially adored me. She, from an early age,

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five years old, I remember learning how to cook.

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Cook, clean, vacuum, do all of these things,

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right? So I was very independent. Then I had

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my first marriage, my first child. I thought

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I was doing what I should have done, right? But

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nothing made sense in my life and nothing just

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felt right. I got divorced, my first wife died,

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got married again, had another child, got divorced

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again. Just love never seemed to find me. It

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was always just a hard, brutal life. Jason, do

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you think some of those scars from childhood

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had something to do with that? I always felt

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unworthy from, you know, when you're being beaten,

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and I'm talking, it didn't mean with a hand fist,

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belt buckles, belts. It didn't matter. And this

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is where I began to hate God. I was such a loving

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little boy. And that was because I was an empath

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and I didn't know it at the time, a deep empath.

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And I'm still that way to this day. So those

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beatings really took a toll on me. I thought

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God didn't love me. And so I began to resent

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him. So when I went to Catholic Church, I had

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some bisexual experiences when I was younger.

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in those formative years. So when I got went

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to Catholic Church and had all of this shoved

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down my throat, I knew I was doomed. I knew there

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was no saving me. There was no chance. God, and

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it was shown. That's why I was being beaten.

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That's why I was hated by him. And that's when

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I quit having a relationship. I was about nine

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or 10 years old when my grandmother went to wake

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me up to go to church. Come on, Jace, let's go

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to church. And I remember kicking her. Hard and

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I sat up and I said, don't you ever wake me up

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to go to church? Don't you ever? Wake me up.

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God hates me. He hates me. I said, so I'll take

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care of myself. Don't you ever wake me up and

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She was just stunned Like Jase and I said I'll

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take care of myself That was the last time I

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ever spoke to God until my death when I was dying.

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And that was over 40 years later. Now, did I

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ever stop believing in Him? No, but I stopped

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having a relationship with Him and with Jesus.

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Should we fast forward to that point? Let's go

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to 2020, early in the days of COVID. Wow, what

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happened to you? How'd you get sick? Well, I

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was waking up, so this is like end of March,

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2020, and I started being very, very tired, waking

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up with blood in my mouth, like, You know, when

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you taste blood, it's got that coppery taste,

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right? I'm like, did I bite my tongue or lip

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or something? You know, and I'm like, nothing.

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But as the days wore on, you know, we, I was

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just tired, like physically tired. One day I

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came home from work, April 2nd. Wasn't happy

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with my life, didn't like my job, didn't like

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the situation I was in. But I came home, sat

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down. I had my dinner. I made a bagel sandwich.

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Just really wasn't in the mood to eat. And I

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began, I took a bite. Took a second bite and

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I'm just watching TV and then went to take another

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bite night. I cough or I've worked and I'm like,

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and I swallowed him like, Oh God, that was horrible.

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It's just a wretched taste. Then I went to take

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another bite. Now up. I coughed bright red blood.

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I mean, it was pink. I mean, it was a handful.

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Okay. It wasn't like a dime or a spot. It was

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a couple of silver dollars. And I freaked. I

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was like, what was, you know, and then I coughed

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again. bright red blood. I mean, not dark red

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when you cut your finger. This is bright pink.

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Now I'm starting to wheeze and I'm trying to

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breathe and I just keep coughing up this blood.

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Now my whole plate is full of blood. So I get

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up and I just remember looking out the patio

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door in my apartment in Wisconsin and I'm watching

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life just take place and I know that I'm dying.

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I can't breathe. Something is massively wrong

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with me and I'm dying. I knew it and I'm watching

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people walk down the sidewalk and cars go by

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like nothing's going on in here in this apartment

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I'm dying I grab my phone I get to the the sink

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and throw my stuff out and I I'm coughing constant

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I can't breathe and I'm frantically trying to

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call my ex -wife because I'm divorced and She

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was an RN and that's the only thing I could think

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of at that time Panicking, you know I'm starting

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to panic a little bit as I truly am really struggling

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to breathe and the blood is just I'm coughing

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it up. And I'm frantically trying over and over,

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started FaceTime her over and over. And then

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finally she answered the, you know, she answered

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the FaceTime and she's like, what do you want?

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Right. And I tried to speak to her and I coughed

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and blood just went all over the phone and she

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saw it. She goes, and she's ran to, she goes,

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Jason. And I said, I don't feel good. I'm trying

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to breathe and I'm wheezing, you know? And I

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said, coughing. And I said, I'm sorry, I'm going

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to go lay down. I'm tired. I don't feel good.

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and I'm coughing she goes Jason Jason listen

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to me Jason Jason and I'm coughing I said I'm

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tired I'm gonna go lay down she goes Jason if

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you lay down you're going to die please don't

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lay down Jason listen to me I said I'm coughing

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up more and more blood she goes Jason honey Jason

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and I said I'm sorry and the phone went dead

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and I was like wow why couldn't our marriage

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be like that Simple and I and that's all I remember

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next thing. I know I wake up in What I assumed

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was the ICU My hands and feet were strapped to

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the bed when I mean strapped I couldn't move

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them more than a sixteenth of an inch up or down

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Okay, I had a two down my throat stuff in my

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nose and an IV in my carotid artery here And

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I was in incredible pain. I mean it was mind

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-altering pain Mean I had a myriad of machines

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keeping me alive. I can feel the ventilator going

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Doctors all over the place and now it's dark

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and they like Jason, you know, do you know your

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name? You know who you are and I can't speak

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so I'm saying yes Do you know where you are?

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You know, I'm looking around and I'm like, you

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know, who's the president? Who cares? You know,

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how do you want me to answer that? I You know,

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I have a two inch tube down my throat, right?

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But from the moment I awoke through the myriad

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of doctors, now this room was big, okay? And

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I found out later why I was in the infectious

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disease ward because the actual ICU and where

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I was were dying people, right? So this room

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was big, but up in the left -hand corner, there

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was a TV. Somebody was standing there. I mean,

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I couldn't see it, but I could feel it. There

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was somebody there. I was being drawn towards

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that area. It was a very comforting feeling,

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a very knowing feeling, right? I've sensed this

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feeling before. And I just trying to see through

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the doctors and I couldn't. So they gave me more

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pain and I fell back, I mean meds. So I fell

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back to sleep and they're waking me up like every

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10 minutes and making me cough up this blood.

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they're getting all of this blood out and come

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to find out later afterwards that they pumped

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out 2 .8 liters of blood, equivalent to 12 cups

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of blood from my lungs. So my cause of death

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was acute respiratory failure hypoxia. I basically

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drowned in my own blood. And why they ventilated

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me, because later I found out why the IV was

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there, was they flushed the medicines directly

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into my heart to restart the heart. I wake up,

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And I'm, if you imagine when you get an itch,

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you've got to scratch it. Right. My whole body

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itched uncontrollably from the meds. Uh, I was

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on a fentanyl and my body was itching and I tried

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to eat my hands from street. I couldn't move.

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Right. And I'm like, I get my hand out of it.

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You want to write. And they finally said, you're

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not going to take, you're not right. And I said,

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I'm not sure. So they let go of the straps and

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they're all there. and they got me a piece of

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paper. They said, you itch? And so they let me

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so I could scratch, you know, and itch. But in

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the meantime, I'm still looking towards the left

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because somebody's standing there. Now, mind

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you, I was in the ICU for a month. I lost 75

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pounds, right? I was extremely lethargic. And

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at the very end, within the last day or two,

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they took the tube out. They took the, you know,

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all the stuff out. They found out what it was.

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They said, Jason, we have no cause or reason

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for this. You don't drink, you don't smoke, you

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don't do drugs, you exercise. All they could

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do was blame it on COVID. They said, what we

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found in your lungs were rapidly growing tumors

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and they burst and they filled your lungs with

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blood. And if we don't get these removed quickly,

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you're going to die. Okay. And I'm like, okay.

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As time goes by, you know, I'm staring at that

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and the nurse walks in one day and is like Jason

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Do you want to turn on the TV? And this is someone

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still when I had the tube in my mouth, but I

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could move my hands How do you tell somebody

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somebody standing there's somebody right there?

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They're gonna think I'm nuts, right? Cuz all

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you see is a TV, but there was somebody there

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and I'm like, you know, I just just So as time

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goes on I'm just staring and staring and it's

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getting time for me to go and again, they had

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pulled out the tube and all that and You know

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when you know, you're dying and you're on the

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verge of death This was the first time that I

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called out to God in over 40 years and I had

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no business calling out to him none. I abandoned

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him I told him to F off. I told him he could

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go to hell. He hated me clearly, but I got up

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on my elbows and I was shaking uncontrollably

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because I had no strength, none. I couldn't talk.

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So when I was crying out to God, it was hoarse

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like, right? And I called out to God. I said,

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please, please don't let me die. Please. And

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now I'm sobbing uncontrollably. I feel a love.

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Within me that I had not felt since I was a little

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boy It had just overcome me and I was like, please

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please don't let me die I'm sorry. I abandoned

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you and I'm sorry. I abandoned Jesus. I said

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I quit having a relationship with you and I said,

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I'm sorry I Said I never stopped believing in

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you, but I I did quit having a relationship with

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you I said, I'm sorry. I said, please don't take

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my children away from me. Please. Please don't

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take my children from me. And there was somebody

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that I loved very much. I won't mention her name,

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but I said, please don't take her from me. Please.

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I love her. Please. I want to hold her hand.

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I want to kiss her. I want to smell her breath.

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I want to make love to her. The moment I said

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that, I was looking at my body laying on a bed.

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I saw everything around me. I was at the top

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of the ceiling. All pain was gone. I felt energized.

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I mean, I was juiced. I mean, I was like, and

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I was in constant in this unimaginable most beautiful

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love and light. This love flowed through me.

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It was as warm as the sun. It encapsulated me

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in it. And I became it. I became the light. I

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saw everything. I could see through the wall.

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I could see all the patients dying. I could see

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the nurses' stations, the uniforms they were

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wearing, the colors. And I can see outside the

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window what, and for the first time, because

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when I was looking out my window, all I could

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see was the sky and the top of a tree. Now I'm

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looking out through, I'm seeing through the wall,

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right? Well, I have 360 degrees. I'm seeing everything

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behind me, everything. But now I'm looking out

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into this field. I could see every blade of grass.

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Every blade of grass. I could see the serrations

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in the grass. I could see the veins in the grass.

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I could see the colors moving in the grass. It

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was the most magnificent green I had ever seen.

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The tree was the same way. I could see the souls.

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The tree looked like Obi -Wan Kenobi in Star

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Wars, right? When you see him at the end, right?

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And he had the halo around him. That's exactly

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what the souls I saw of the trees, the grass,

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the clouds, everything. I could see every soul.

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And it was just the most beautiful thing. And

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I knew where I was. I said it. I was like, I'm

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home. I'm home. And it was a thought. I mean,

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I'm looking at a body. So this is all telepathically

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I'm speaking. Right? Because I'm looking at this

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thing laying on the bed and I had no love of

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it. None. none at all. The next thought that

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crept into my mind was, what a beautiful day

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to die. Not only did I know where I was, I realized

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that I had died numerous times. This was nothing

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new, right? It was just normal would be the thing.

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It was comforting. I was home. But in the same

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aspect, I said it with a little bit of trepidation

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was like, I'm not supposed to be here yet. Now,

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how long all of this took? I have no idea. Now,

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like I said, I'm seeing everything through the

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walls. I'm at the top of the ceiling now, so

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I'm even with the TV. What time? I don't know.

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This could have been five seconds, five hours,

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50 years. Who knows? There is no such thing as

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time. It ceased to exist, right? I was just simply

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home. Now, this other presence showed up, and

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this would be more like 12 o 'clock. It's hard

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to describe when you have 360 -degree vision.

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I just began to focus more at 12, but I'm still

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paying attention to the 10 o 'clock, 11 o 'clock

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situation. That presence, I knew instantly, too,

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that was Yeshua, without question, or to those

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that don't know Jesus Christ. And more love was

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bestowed upon me. This love that was bestowed

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upon me is inconceivable to any of you. It was

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almost stifling, like somebody, you know, covering

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your mouth and nose and barely letting enough

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air to come in to breathe. It was just the most

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magnificent and beautiful love. And it was as

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warm as the sun. And it just never stopped. It

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never altered. It never wavered. It was just

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the most unconditional love. I was at peace.

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I was home. And I had no desire to ever come

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back. I know I was begging not to die, but that

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was immaterial. Can I just ask you a couple of

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questions? I hate to interrupt and I can't wait

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to hear the rest of the story, but I don't want

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to get too far down the road before I ask a few

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questions about this. One is, how did you know

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that it was Jesus? I recognized His energy instantaneously.

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Just like I knew who was, once I left my body,

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who was standing in the corner was God. So when

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I merged with the light and that love, I became

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the light and the love. I became one with the

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Father. And when that other energy showed, that

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vibrational frequency was instantly known. It

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was Yeshua. I didn't need to see a body or a

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face. I just instantly recognized it without

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question. And that brings up the other question,

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which is, you saw this being in your room, this

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is before you left your body, you saw this being

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up by the TV. And did you feel like that was

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God the whole time? I didn't know it at the time,

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but there was nobody there. I felt this energy.

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I felt this love connection is what I'm trying

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to say, right? I never did I see anybody except

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when I left my body. Then I saw the love. I felt

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the love and the light and that I knew was Father

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or God. But prior to that, I had no idea. It

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was just this recognizable feeling, right? Just

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this absolute knowing that I recognized it, just

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like I knew somebody was there. So it's just,

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it was there. It's very hard to describe. So

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when I was out of my body and I was in constant

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the light and the love, then I knew without question,

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it was my father, it was God, it was father.

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And I call God father because in that moment

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of my transition out of my body into being home

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and feeling this love, The love that was bestowed

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upon me, mind you, the things that I have done

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in my life were subject from what I was taught

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was hell, where I was going to go. There was

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no question about it through the violence that

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I inflicted on other people and it was inflicted

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on me, the abuse that I went through, the drug

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abuse, the bisexuality that I had early on, the

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alcohol, the drugs, the unforgivable sin as a

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Christian, it was the outright rejection of the

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Holy Spirit. Needless to say, I was, when I came

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back, I was shocked. But that energy that I realized

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was Jesus. We don't exist as a body, and we can

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get into this later. The body's meaningless.

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It's of such littleness, we'll just leave it

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there. Yeah, we'll get to that in a few minutes.

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Go ahead and finish with the experience itself.

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So this is the end of it. I was just engulfed

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in the love of Yeshua and Father. And then I

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felt two hands on my soul, right? And it gently

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glided me back to my body and our souls aren't

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in our body, but I felt his two hands on my chest

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and they were huge and they were warm. They were

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so warm, gently laid me my soul back around my

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body and then laid me back down on the bed and

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I was out. How long? I don't know, but I woke

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up again to doctors frantically shaking me, trying

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to get me up. And I look around and I'm like,

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What was that? And I looked to the left and it

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was gone. That presence was gone. And I was like,

00:22:49.849 --> 00:22:51.650
what just happened? Jay, are you okay? And I'm

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like, everybody out of the room. Oh, you need

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But I was like, what was that? Nobody's going

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to believe me. Nobody's going to believe me.

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They're going to think I'm nuts if I try to describe

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that I was just with God and Jesus, right? They're

00:24:51.579 --> 00:24:54.420
going to think I'm nuts. So that was basically

00:24:54.420 --> 00:24:59.319
my near -death experience in the ICU. And since

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then, I've had profound spiritual experiences

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over these. It's going to be, wow, coming up.

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six years in a few days, a couple days. A couple

00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.940
other questions about when you were out of body.

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I assume that all the pain that you had been

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feeling and all the itching, I assume all that

00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:21.299
was gone? Instantaneously, gone. It's interesting

00:25:21.299 --> 00:25:25.119
to hear that you went from begging to not die

00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:30.480
to being home. Did you feel like you, how do

00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.990
I put this? Did you feel like you still wanted

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to come back or maybe didn't so much? No, I had

00:25:36.430 --> 00:25:39.569
no desire to come back because in that moment

00:25:39.569 --> 00:25:42.630
of my transition I knew everything there was

00:25:42.630 --> 00:25:45.609
to ever know in a trillionth of a second. Everything.

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From whatever you want to know, I knew. I knew

00:25:49.450 --> 00:25:51.549
that everybody and everything in the world that

00:25:51.549 --> 00:25:53.710
was taking place was right where it was needed

00:25:53.710 --> 00:25:56.269
to be. Everything and every person was right

00:25:56.269 --> 00:25:58.849
where they needed to be. Perfect. Even those

00:25:58.849 --> 00:26:02.299
people dying. They were dying on cue. That's

00:26:02.299 --> 00:26:05.700
how they chose to die. So No, I did not want

00:26:05.700 --> 00:26:08.440
to come back at all. I was home. I wanted to

00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:11.079
stay there It was the most profound experience

00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:13.819
of my life I have never even with my own children

00:26:13.819 --> 00:26:15.519
watching them come into the earth coming into

00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:18.460
this world I have never felt a love like that.

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I was for the first time at my life. I was at

00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:24.079
peace There was no internal war. There was no

00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:28.059
struggle. There was no pain It was just love

00:26:28.059 --> 00:26:31.960
and peace For those that maybe haven't felt that

00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:34.839
love, how could you describe it? How could you

00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.319
relate it to something here on earth that maybe

00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:44.039
we have felt? Wow, maybe, maybe in the slightest

00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:47.640
way. You've seen parents, I don't want to use

00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:50.880
that analogy because that's horrific. Just take

00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.019
every parent, like every mother, right? When

00:26:53.019 --> 00:26:57.079
that child is born and that bond is there, you

00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.029
take every mother or every parent. mother and

00:27:00.029 --> 00:27:02.470
father, right? And you take that love of that

00:27:02.470 --> 00:27:07.049
child and then you multiply it by a billion.

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That's what it would feel like. But our language,

00:27:11.930 --> 00:27:15.609
which is archaic and barbaric to say the least,

00:27:16.269 --> 00:27:19.630
is there's just no words to describe or put that

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love into existence. But what I was going to

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say is you've seen parents when you've seen school

00:27:24.630 --> 00:27:26.430
shootings take place and you see them frantically

00:27:26.430 --> 00:27:29.309
running down the road. tears streaming down their

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eyes. Now take that feeling of absolute love

00:27:33.109 --> 00:27:36.789
and multiply it by a billion. And that would

00:27:36.789 --> 00:27:41.089
still equal an F to the love that Father has

00:27:41.089 --> 00:27:47.890
of you. It is profound. It is profound. And it,

00:27:47.910 --> 00:27:51.309
again, it has changed my life. That's the kind

00:27:51.309 --> 00:27:52.690
of love we're talking about here. And that's

00:27:52.690 --> 00:27:55.569
why I call God Father. because in that moment

00:27:55.569 --> 00:27:58.289
of my transition, I felt like I was his one and

00:27:58.289 --> 00:28:04.029
only son. The love bestowed upon me was, again,

00:28:04.309 --> 00:28:07.210
nothing that I can ever put into words. And no

00:28:07.210 --> 00:28:09.009
near -death experiencer is, and I've watched

00:28:09.009 --> 00:28:11.690
thousands of NDEs. They all describe the same

00:28:11.690 --> 00:28:13.369
thing. I know what they're talking about, right?

00:28:13.750 --> 00:28:16.269
When they say that the love, you guys have no

00:28:16.269 --> 00:28:19.210
idea what that love is. If you could even experience

00:28:19.210 --> 00:28:21.980
it for a tenth of a second, there would be no

00:28:21.980 --> 00:28:23.960
wars, there would be no famine, there would be

00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:26.900
no homelessness, there would be no drug or alcohol

00:28:26.900 --> 00:28:30.440
abuse, or you know, children dying of starvation.

00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:33.240
That's the kind of love that I'm talking about.

00:28:33.619 --> 00:28:35.980
Thank you for trying to explain all that. You

00:28:35.980 --> 00:28:39.160
did a good job. I know it's not perfect, but

00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:41.500
I guess we just don't have the words for it.

00:28:42.539 --> 00:28:45.960
I'm wondering another thing, that is, it seems

00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:50.210
like Prior to this happening, you were very aware

00:28:50.210 --> 00:28:53.230
of your own weaknesses. You mentioned some of

00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:55.950
the things that you had done that you didn't

00:28:55.950 --> 00:28:59.329
feel good about in your life. When you went to

00:28:59.329 --> 00:29:02.369
the other side, was there any time that you felt

00:29:02.369 --> 00:29:05.190
guilt, that you felt pain, that you felt like,

00:29:05.190 --> 00:29:08.509
man, did I ever screw up? There is absolutely

00:29:08.509 --> 00:29:13.109
no judgment. None. None. There is no judgment.

00:29:13.810 --> 00:29:17.009
coming from Christianity, I would, I, you know,

00:29:17.029 --> 00:29:20.529
that's not what I expected. You know of a vindictive

00:29:20.529 --> 00:29:23.529
God, a hateful God, a vengeful God, an angry

00:29:23.529 --> 00:29:32.450
God. You've all been taught wrong. Your father

00:29:32.450 --> 00:29:38.029
loves you. There is no judgment upon you with

00:29:38.029 --> 00:29:43.269
anything that you have done. Your father is love.

00:29:43.900 --> 00:29:47.720
A love that can never be put into words. It's

00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:51.019
what we're made out of. It's where we come from.

00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.920
And it's who we are. We are all unconditional

00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:59.119
love. We are all that of Father. And on the other

00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:01.339
side, there was no judgment. In the moment, I

00:30:01.339 --> 00:30:04.119
began to feel guilty for the things that I've

00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.460
done. More love was bestowed upon me. And I knew

00:30:08.460 --> 00:30:10.819
at that moment in time that I had done absolutely

00:30:10.819 --> 00:30:15.049
nothing wrong. Nothing wrong. And I was to not

00:30:15.049 --> 00:30:20.609
feel guilty. There was no judgment upon me. Ever.

00:30:21.910 --> 00:30:25.809
Ever. It took me a while when I came back to

00:30:25.809 --> 00:30:29.809
to let go of that guilt. And to forgive myself

00:30:29.809 --> 00:30:33.450
for the things that I have done in my life. But

00:30:33.450 --> 00:30:35.529
there is no judgment and anybody that's going

00:30:35.529 --> 00:30:38.109
to see this understand this now that your father

00:30:38.109 --> 00:30:42.859
loves you unconditionally without question or

00:30:42.859 --> 00:30:45.960
art fault. Just know that. Just know that you

00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.319
are loved and that there will be and there never

00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:53.440
has been any judgment held upon you. Sorry about

00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.160
that, I got emotional. Thank you very much for

00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:58.819
sharing that. I appreciate it. Before we move

00:30:58.819 --> 00:31:01.160
on and talk more about the spiritual things that

00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:04.039
you've learned during the experience and since

00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:07.490
then, Can you just give us a very brief wrap

00:31:07.490 --> 00:31:10.329
-up of physically what happened to you? How did

00:31:10.329 --> 00:31:14.789
you recover? Did it take very long? It was a

00:31:14.789 --> 00:31:17.210
long road to recovery. I had to learn how to

00:31:17.210 --> 00:31:19.349
walk. I had to learn how to talk. I had to learn

00:31:19.349 --> 00:31:23.509
how to feed myself. I checked myself out of the

00:31:23.509 --> 00:31:25.769
hospital. I had no business doing that because

00:31:25.769 --> 00:31:29.069
of those said effects. It took me a long time

00:31:29.069 --> 00:31:33.210
to get back on my feet. Then my company fired

00:31:33.210 --> 00:31:37.680
me. So I lost my job. I got my vehicle repossessed.

00:31:38.019 --> 00:31:39.960
Nobody would hire me because, again, it was in

00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:42.619
the midst of COVID pandemic. Unemployment wouldn't

00:31:42.619 --> 00:31:46.359
pay me. So I had eviction notices. I had no money

00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:49.759
coming in. So it was a very long road to recovery.

00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:54.519
But thank goodness I still had that feeling of

00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.579
being in there. I still had that unconditional

00:31:57.579 --> 00:32:00.339
love feeling. And I knew I was being taken care

00:32:00.339 --> 00:32:02.700
of, watched over. because you're never alone.

00:32:02.900 --> 00:32:04.940
That's something I wanted to say too. I haven't

00:32:04.940 --> 00:32:08.579
said this in a while. You are never alone. You

00:32:08.579 --> 00:32:11.180
have your guides with you. You have your archangel

00:32:11.180 --> 00:32:13.640
with you. Your father not only hears you, sees

00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.839
you, but he also feels you. Everything you're

00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.079
going through, he is going through. It may seem

00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.660
like you're alone. It may like seem you're abandoned,

00:32:22.700 --> 00:32:26.779
but you are not. You are alone. I felt my guides

00:32:26.779 --> 00:32:30.769
with me. I remember one morning I woke up and

00:32:30.769 --> 00:32:32.710
I moved and I felt somebody get off the side

00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:34.750
of my bed and I learned looked over there was

00:32:34.750 --> 00:32:38.170
nobody there but I felt somebody get off my bed

00:32:38.170 --> 00:32:41.410
and I was being taken care of and I was you know

00:32:41.410 --> 00:32:43.769
I was just never alone throughout that whole

00:32:43.769 --> 00:32:47.990
period and it was such a comforting feeling even

00:32:47.990 --> 00:32:50.210
though I was struggling physically in the body

00:32:50.210 --> 00:32:54.289
again to get up and get things going but eventually

00:32:54.289 --> 00:32:58.430
I did but it was very hard and I fell into depression

00:32:59.910 --> 00:33:02.910
because you began once again to feel the hate,

00:33:03.450 --> 00:33:06.769
the anger, the rage of the earth, of society.

00:33:07.369 --> 00:33:10.609
I was picking up on that and that was very difficult

00:33:10.609 --> 00:33:13.349
to have to deal with when I was still feeling

00:33:13.349 --> 00:33:16.990
that unconditional love of home. So it was a

00:33:16.990 --> 00:33:20.009
very, very difficult transition for me. I fell

00:33:20.009 --> 00:33:23.009
for probably two years into a depression. And

00:33:23.009 --> 00:33:24.930
now in those two years, I've had some profound

00:33:24.930 --> 00:33:28.200
spiritual experiences after that. But it was

00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.039
very difficult. People always say, I want a near

00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:34.319
-death experience. No, you don't. No, no, you

00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.680
don't. No. No, be careful what you wish for.

00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.660
Can you tell me any more about these angels and

00:33:40.660 --> 00:33:44.819
guides that we all have? Yes, I met my guide,

00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.480
not physically didn't see him, but recognized

00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:50.140
his presence. And I think I saw another one of

00:33:50.140 --> 00:33:53.220
my relatives or guides. I had an out -of -body

00:33:53.220 --> 00:33:56.839
experience in, was it 2020? I don't know if you're

00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.400
a football fan or not. Oh, it was the night Devar

00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.559
Hamelin died on the football field. It was the

00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:03.960
last time I watched TV. I had an out of body

00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.839
experience. Our guides are with us in the same

00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:08.860
room with you. They're watching you. They watch

00:34:08.860 --> 00:34:11.199
you take a shower, take a poop, make dinner,

00:34:11.219 --> 00:34:13.800
eat, go out with friends. They are around you.

00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.940
Your archangel or your protector. That is your

00:34:16.940 --> 00:34:19.300
intuition that tells you when something, hey,

00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.139
don't go there. Don't do this. Or you get that

00:34:22.139 --> 00:34:25.170
sixth sense, that gut feeling. that's your archangel,

00:34:25.329 --> 00:34:28.070
that's your guide, talking to you. They're always

00:34:28.070 --> 00:34:29.869
with you. They never leave. From the time you

00:34:29.869 --> 00:34:31.610
were created, they've been with you and they

00:34:31.610 --> 00:34:34.909
will never leave you for eternity. Did you learn

00:34:34.909 --> 00:34:37.909
anything about who they are? For example, is

00:34:37.909 --> 00:34:40.909
there some kind of relationship? Were they ancestors

00:34:40.909 --> 00:34:43.849
or were they just some sort of other angels that

00:34:43.849 --> 00:34:47.550
God created or who are they? They are generally

00:34:48.730 --> 00:34:51.250
Past relatives or relations most of them that

00:34:51.250 --> 00:34:53.690
you've never met like a great great great great

00:34:53.690 --> 00:34:56.710
great grandfather or uncle or cousin Who has

00:34:56.710 --> 00:34:59.670
just a fond affection for you and decided that

00:34:59.670 --> 00:35:02.590
they would take on that role as your guardians

00:35:02.590 --> 00:35:05.849
So whatever lifetime you've gone into they're

00:35:05.849 --> 00:35:08.809
always there with you They take part in you creating

00:35:08.809 --> 00:35:12.090
your life and so on so forth. But yeah, they're

00:35:12.090 --> 00:35:15.190
generally family members as you said ancestors

00:35:15.550 --> 00:35:18.949
So now your archangel that's with you, your protector,

00:35:19.030 --> 00:35:22.110
whatever, we all have them. Now they were created

00:35:22.110 --> 00:35:25.170
when Father created the angels. So each of us

00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:28.489
have an archangel attached to us. And again,

00:35:28.630 --> 00:35:33.510
they will never leave you. Ever. Never. In all

00:35:33.510 --> 00:35:36.650
of eternity. They are with you for eternity.

00:35:37.670 --> 00:35:41.610
Do you feel like these angels, these who are

00:35:41.610 --> 00:35:44.170
probably ancestors, as you put it, and that makes

00:35:44.170 --> 00:35:47.679
sense to me? Do you feel like we knew them before

00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:51.579
we came here to this earth? Oh, yeah Without

00:35:51.579 --> 00:35:55.380
question without question See the thing is is

00:35:55.380 --> 00:35:58.300
we put ourselves into a deep sleep or what we

00:35:58.300 --> 00:36:01.360
call amnesia We've when we come here and we incarnate

00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:05.099
when when you Start to create life or what we

00:36:05.099 --> 00:36:07.360
call the physical body. We vibrate at such a

00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.000
high frequency I mean, it's it's unbelievable

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:13.019
how we vibrate when I told you I was juiced right

00:36:13.019 --> 00:36:16.639
house I was vibrating at my natural frequency,

00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.199
which was because I was out of the body. I was

00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:23.239
at the home. But when we choose to incarnate,

00:36:23.500 --> 00:36:26.239
when we get mom and dad to mate and create a

00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.300
baby, right? Well, we create the baby or the

00:36:29.300 --> 00:36:33.039
ego does. We begin to lower our vibration to

00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.960
come into this three dimensional world. Therefore,

00:36:36.019 --> 00:36:39.280
what happens is we begin to condense matter.

00:36:39.900 --> 00:36:43.260
And when that happens. you know it as a baby

00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:47.880
is formed. So we lower our vibration and therefore

00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.739
we create the body. We look exactly the way we

00:36:50.739 --> 00:36:52.619
want to look because that's the way our ego wants

00:36:52.619 --> 00:36:55.179
us to look. You look the way you look, I look

00:36:55.179 --> 00:36:58.619
the way I look. That is how the baby is formed,

00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.500
is we begin to lower that vibration when we go

00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:04.420
into mom and so we take over the creation of

00:37:04.420 --> 00:37:07.179
our body. How we want it to look, so on so forth,

00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:11.090
eyes, whatever. And then while that baby is being

00:37:11.090 --> 00:37:13.510
formed, or what we call the fetus in this world,

00:37:14.010 --> 00:37:17.210
is that soul will come in and out of that body

00:37:17.210 --> 00:37:22.530
many, many, many times, right? Because once again,

00:37:22.550 --> 00:37:25.349
it's leaving everything that's ever known. That's

00:37:25.349 --> 00:37:27.670
fearful. The soul comes in and out of the fetus

00:37:27.670 --> 00:37:29.829
many, many times, and then finally father says,

00:37:29.889 --> 00:37:32.510
okay, this is the last time. So each time the

00:37:32.510 --> 00:37:34.650
baby would go home, it gets knowledge, it gets

00:37:34.650 --> 00:37:38.070
the wisdom, hey, you're talking with our overlord.

00:37:38.219 --> 00:37:41.840
and he's strictly in charge of our growth, spiritual

00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:44.579
growth in these incarnations, like a supervisor

00:37:44.579 --> 00:37:49.019
at work, basically, and a great deal goes into

00:37:49.019 --> 00:37:51.480
creating a life. There isn't just a, you know,

00:37:51.579 --> 00:37:55.440
wham -bam, thank you ma 'am, right? It's with

00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.059
your overlord, you're with your archangel, you're

00:37:58.059 --> 00:38:01.300
with your guides, and you create this experience

00:38:01.300 --> 00:38:03.599
that you want to experience. Then you bring it

00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.179
before Father, like a piece of paper, a contract,

00:38:06.780 --> 00:38:09.469
say, This is what I want to father agrees to

00:38:09.469 --> 00:38:13.630
it. Or you may say you need to change some things,

00:38:13.650 --> 00:38:16.110
right? Because I think you're taking on too much

00:38:16.110 --> 00:38:18.610
and go back and redo it. And it's like walking

00:38:18.610 --> 00:38:20.969
into a buffet, a restaurant that you've never

00:38:20.969 --> 00:38:23.090
walked into, but this huge buffet. So you're

00:38:23.090 --> 00:38:24.989
going down this buffet line and you're picking

00:38:24.989 --> 00:38:27.150
out. So, oh, I want to try cancer. Oh, what does

00:38:27.150 --> 00:38:29.230
it look like with my arm lopped off? What about

00:38:29.230 --> 00:38:31.610
a leg? Oh, how about blind? How about being raped?

00:38:31.630 --> 00:38:33.949
How about right? So you're picking what you want

00:38:33.949 --> 00:38:36.489
to experience. Just like that. It's exactly what

00:38:36.489 --> 00:38:39.349
it is. Oh, I want to be raped. Oh, I want my

00:38:39.349 --> 00:38:41.449
child to die at this age. Oh, I want, you know,

00:38:41.690 --> 00:38:43.989
I want cancer, you know, so you pick out what

00:38:43.989 --> 00:38:46.369
you want. And then again, you bring before father

00:38:46.369 --> 00:38:48.489
and father will agree to it. There's no way you

00:38:48.489 --> 00:38:51.789
can come here without his saying so. End of subject.

00:38:52.210 --> 00:38:54.369
Then you get your contract or what you it's a

00:38:54.369 --> 00:38:56.630
life contract. Right. So you're just not going

00:38:56.630 --> 00:38:58.849
to complete it in one lifetime. It's going to

00:38:58.849 --> 00:39:01.130
take hundreds and hundreds, if not, you know,

00:39:01.250 --> 00:39:04.869
maybe twelve hundred. lifetimes for you to finish

00:39:04.869 --> 00:39:06.710
what you wanted to start, and Father would say,

00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:10.489
okay, and then the journey begins. Okay, a couple

00:39:10.489 --> 00:39:15.230
of questions here. Yeah. It's easy for us, while

00:39:15.230 --> 00:39:17.909
we're here in this life, to realize how hard

00:39:17.909 --> 00:39:20.989
those things are if we chose some of those really

00:39:20.989 --> 00:39:24.849
tough things. Why did we choose them? Did we

00:39:24.849 --> 00:39:27.969
just not understand previously before we came

00:39:27.969 --> 00:39:31.110
how hard it would be to get you used examples

00:39:31.110 --> 00:39:34.849
of losing a limb or being raped or some other

00:39:34.849 --> 00:39:37.909
horrible thing? Did we just not get it? Why would

00:39:37.909 --> 00:39:40.829
we choose stuff like that? See, when you're on

00:39:40.829 --> 00:39:43.349
the other side or when you're home, when you

00:39:43.349 --> 00:39:46.610
are in oneness with the father, when you're in

00:39:46.610 --> 00:39:49.210
all this, when you're in this unconditional love,

00:39:50.150 --> 00:39:55.909
you don't grow through love and Easy. Where do

00:39:55.909 --> 00:40:00.170
you gain your most knowledge from the most difficult

00:40:00.170 --> 00:40:03.050
parts of your life, don't you? Whether you've

00:40:03.050 --> 00:40:05.130
gone through a divorce, the death of a child,

00:40:05.550 --> 00:40:08.409
death of a parent, whatever it may be, almost

00:40:08.409 --> 00:40:12.309
drowning in a lake, you grow through pain. You

00:40:12.309 --> 00:40:15.849
grow through suffering. It's not meant to destroy

00:40:15.849 --> 00:40:18.170
you, it's meant for you to grow from. But what

00:40:18.170 --> 00:40:20.889
does this human species do? We get caught up

00:40:20.889 --> 00:40:23.670
in the pain. Well, you cheated on me. God doesn't

00:40:23.670 --> 00:40:25.550
care about your marriage. Marriage means nothing

00:40:25.550 --> 00:40:27.949
to God. But you get caught up in, I hate you

00:40:27.949 --> 00:40:30.789
now, right? You get caught up in that moment.

00:40:31.230 --> 00:40:34.909
But it's a spiritual growth moment. It's not

00:40:34.909 --> 00:40:37.929
meant to cripple you. But we have a tendency,

00:40:38.090 --> 00:40:41.349
this species does, to hold onto that pain, hold

00:40:41.349 --> 00:40:43.710
onto that grief, hold onto that sorrow and not

00:40:43.710 --> 00:40:46.769
let it go. Then we carry that darkness and that

00:40:46.769 --> 00:40:49.550
fear within us. We're not to fear anything. Fear

00:40:49.550 --> 00:40:52.530
is an illusion. So we grow through these things.

00:40:53.750 --> 00:40:57.210
Absolutely. Those are growth opportunities. They

00:40:57.210 --> 00:40:59.630
are not fun, but that's what they're here for.

00:41:00.250 --> 00:41:02.610
But a lot of people are going to argue with you.

00:41:02.809 --> 00:41:04.530
This is where I'm going to get into some of the

00:41:04.530 --> 00:41:07.070
hard questions, Jason. A lot of people are going

00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:09.590
to argue with you and say, I would have never

00:41:09.590 --> 00:41:14.130
chosen that. And right. Well, unfortunately you

00:41:14.130 --> 00:41:17.909
did. Why? Because you want to grow from it. And

00:41:17.909 --> 00:41:20.880
the reason you can't remember what you chose.

00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.000
The reason you can't remember that you put yourself

00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:27.679
into a sleep or an amnesia is because if you

00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:29.480
knew what you were about to go through, would

00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.719
you go through it? Now if I told you tomorrow

00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:33.679
you're going to your son is going to die and

00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:36.039
then two years after that your wife is going

00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:38.619
to die and then your company is going to fold

00:41:38.619 --> 00:41:42.679
and now you've just lost your entire 401k. You're

00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:44.059
going to go through with it? You're going to

00:41:44.059 --> 00:41:48.219
go, hell no, no, no. Nope, I choose something

00:41:48.219 --> 00:41:51.300
different. Unfortunately, I would choose the

00:41:51.300 --> 00:41:54.440
easy path, which I'm not going to learn anything

00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:57.019
from, right? Then we might as well just stay

00:41:57.019 --> 00:41:59.820
at home because that's what home is like. Home,

00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.559
the best way to describe home is like the best

00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.380
orgasm you have ever had when you are at the

00:42:07.380 --> 00:42:10.940
pinnacle of it, right? Of this feeling, right?

00:42:10.940 --> 00:42:14.239
Of this orgasm and now multiply it by a billion.

00:42:14.900 --> 00:42:19.340
That is what it's like to be at home. That feeling

00:42:19.340 --> 00:42:23.920
of pure ecstasy of pure love of pure everything

00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:28.039
in that moment before it all Just that trillions

00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:31.460
of a second before the climax explodes that right

00:42:31.460 --> 00:42:34.820
there is what home is like You're not gonna grow

00:42:34.820 --> 00:42:37.539
at home. You're not gonna grow in all this So

00:42:37.539 --> 00:42:39.719
you come down here to experience getting hit

00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:43.239
by a car experience getting stabbed Experience

00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:47.409
what I'm going through right now, right? Let's

00:42:47.409 --> 00:42:49.769
talk about that for a second. Do you mind Jason?

00:42:50.170 --> 00:42:53.809
No, go ahead. Are you okay with Being vulnerable

00:42:53.809 --> 00:42:56.210
enough to tell everybody what you're going through

00:42:56.210 --> 00:42:58.250
right now because it's a good example of this

00:42:58.250 --> 00:43:01.829
whole principle Yeah, I mean I've been if people

00:43:01.829 --> 00:43:04.170
go to my channel and we can talk about that later

00:43:04.170 --> 00:43:07.269
I've never held anything back from anybody. So

00:43:07.269 --> 00:43:10.349
my near -death happened in 2020 I'll just go

00:43:10.349 --> 00:43:12.010
through some brief moments. If you want to cover

00:43:12.010 --> 00:43:15.880
them later, that's fine 2022, I had a profound

00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.179
out -of -body experience, which was phenomenal.

00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:24.320
Then a year later, I had two visitations with

00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:28.380
angels. Then I had another out -of -body experience.

00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:34.119
And in 2024, I had, was it Easter of 2024? Yep.

00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:38.280
I had another meeting with an angel in the physical.

00:43:38.739 --> 00:43:47.019
Then I came home mid -summer. 2024 or 25 and

00:43:47.019 --> 00:43:50.400
my whole apartment was ransacked. But yet my

00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.480
doors were locked and I can get into this later.

00:43:52.699 --> 00:43:57.119
Then I had another profound experience in 2025.

00:43:57.500 --> 00:44:01.159
But what had happened is my life came to a crashing

00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:06.099
halt in Wisconsin. Meaning they raised my rent.

00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.380
I was not happy at the job. That ended up collapsing.

00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.289
I ended up quitting there. And the reason I'm

00:44:12.289 --> 00:44:15.650
in the predicament is now because in April of

00:44:15.650 --> 00:44:19.429
2023, or no, March of 2023, one of the meetings

00:44:19.429 --> 00:44:23.369
I had with an angel led me to this part of what

00:44:23.369 --> 00:44:26.429
I'm going through now. And I came out of sushi

00:44:26.429 --> 00:44:28.969
with a woman I was trying to date, which was

00:44:28.969 --> 00:44:31.409
a bad idea. That was not meant to happen. It

00:44:31.409 --> 00:44:34.949
was clear. But I had this profound meeting, this

00:44:34.949 --> 00:44:37.179
person. who I thought was a person at the time,

00:44:37.300 --> 00:44:39.480
was sitting at the very back of my Jeep, dressed

00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:43.239
like a bum, bag, cane, ratty clothes, but his

00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.739
face looked very familiar. And it was the second

00:44:45.739 --> 00:44:49.480
time I saw this angel. This time his clothing

00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.800
and his physical appearance was changed, meaning

00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.420
his hair color was changed, same haircut style,

00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.880
and beard color was changed from a brunette to

00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:01.880
a red, not light red, but a darker red. He goes,

00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.880
hi, how are you? and I'm smiling and I'm feeling

00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:10.940
this energy draw and I want to explain to you

00:45:10.940 --> 00:45:12.760
why I'm here going through this and I have to

00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:16.300
explain this so he's like you like video games

00:45:16.300 --> 00:45:19.219
and I'm like I'm trying to put two and two together

00:45:19.219 --> 00:45:22.500
I just can't the woman that I was with she's

00:45:22.500 --> 00:45:25.559
getting freaked out he goes oh I'm here in Wisconsin

00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:27.980
because I'm helping helping somebody here get

00:45:27.980 --> 00:45:30.880
a divorce I'm gonna be going up to a Conama walk

00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:34.710
long story short She was going through a divorce

00:45:34.710 --> 00:45:38.010
and he was like she looked at me freaked out

00:45:38.010 --> 00:45:40.590
because Basically, he was telling us our entire

00:45:40.590 --> 00:45:44.449
story without even she freaked out ran into the

00:45:44.449 --> 00:45:49.409
van and he goes, you know It's really about love

00:45:49.409 --> 00:45:52.349
And he tried to give me a fist bump. I'm feeling

00:45:52.349 --> 00:45:56.050
this energy and he goes, you know It's really

00:45:56.050 --> 00:45:58.530
about the love and he tried to give me a fist

00:45:58.530 --> 00:46:01.449
bump And third time he goes, you know, love is

00:46:01.449 --> 00:46:04.010
really everything. It's all there is. And I gave

00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:06.969
him a fist bump and I go, yes, you're right.

00:46:07.030 --> 00:46:09.889
It is. Love is the only thing that matters. I

00:46:09.889 --> 00:46:12.730
said, I had a near death experience three years

00:46:12.730 --> 00:46:15.210
ago. And he sat up and he looked at me and he

00:46:15.210 --> 00:46:19.050
turned his head sideways. I know you did. And

00:46:19.050 --> 00:46:22.230
I'm like, whoa, whoa. So I turned around to make

00:46:22.230 --> 00:46:24.760
sure she's okay over my shoulder. And I turned

00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:26.679
around, because he was sitting over this way.

00:46:26.820 --> 00:46:28.780
So I turned around, and now he's standing in

00:46:28.780 --> 00:46:33.300
front of me. And I'm like, whoa, no sound, nothing.

00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:39.059
And he goes, your name is Jason, right? I was

00:46:39.059 --> 00:46:43.639
like, I never told you my name, man. And he goes,

00:46:43.739 --> 00:46:47.480
I didn't mean to scare her. And he said, would

00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:50.619
you walk with me? He said, I'm grabbing my bag.

00:46:50.619 --> 00:46:53.079
So I grabbed his bag. And he says, you know,

00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:57.159
I'm an alcoholic. And he says, you know, he said,

00:46:57.219 --> 00:47:01.000
you know, last month I drank 110. He said, you

00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:05.300
drank $110 ,000 worth of alcohol. I said, wow,

00:47:05.420 --> 00:47:08.440
you don't stink. And on top of that, you have

00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:10.639
no, your hand is cold. There was no blood in

00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.760
it. Like when you touch a dead body, that coldness.

00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:14.599
So when I gave him a fist bump, there was that,

00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:16.559
with that kind of feeling, right? And I'm like,

00:47:16.940 --> 00:47:18.579
and he says, you know, you're kind of scraping

00:47:18.579 --> 00:47:22.679
the bottom of the barrel. Oh, I said, oh. Thanks.

00:47:22.780 --> 00:47:24.920
Thanks for rubbing some salt into an old wound."

00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.539
I said, yeah, I spent my whole life. Money has

00:47:28.539 --> 00:47:31.519
never been my... Now he's walking in front of

00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.000
me. Wasn't walking beside me anymore. He's walking

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.940
in front of me. He really wasn't walking very

00:47:36.940 --> 00:47:39.539
much with a limp anymore. That kind of went away.

00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:43.539
So he said, would you be okay with that? And

00:47:43.539 --> 00:47:47.780
I'm like, okay with what? Making $110 ,000? I'm

00:47:47.780 --> 00:47:51.659
barely making $30 ,000 a year. Yeah. Yeah, I'd

00:47:51.659 --> 00:47:56.199
be okay with that. He goes, great. And he's walking

00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.539
a little bit. He goes, would you be willing to

00:47:58.539 --> 00:48:03.960
relocate? I said, relocate? Yeah, where? And

00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:09.400
he goes, hmm. How about Sacramento? California?

00:48:10.260 --> 00:48:12.480
I said, for that kind of money, sure. Great,

00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.380
he could walk with me. So I walk him into the

00:48:15.380 --> 00:48:18.960
bar, which was a steakhouse. He goes, Jason?

00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.440
And again, I didn't tell him my name. He goes,

00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.019
it was a pleasure and honor speaking with you.

00:48:24.139 --> 00:48:27.619
And he said, you'll hear from me again. And I

00:48:27.619 --> 00:48:31.639
said, OK. Said, you know, it's nice meeting you.

00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.320
And I said, you know, good luck. And I start

00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.139
leaving the restaurant. And I said, no, I got

00:48:37.139 --> 00:48:39.679
to turn around. And I turn around. The restaurant's

00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:43.159
full. He's nowhere to be seen. Ran back to the

00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:47.219
Jeep. Long story short, that is why when my life

00:48:47.219 --> 00:48:54.099
collapsed in 2025 in July, I knew I had to go

00:48:54.099 --> 00:48:57.559
to Sacramento. So I took my whole life. I saved

00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.420
my couch, my bed, and a few other things in a

00:49:00.420 --> 00:49:03.579
U -Haul crate, packed it to the brim and everything

00:49:03.579 --> 00:49:05.980
else. I was trying to get everything. What can

00:49:05.980 --> 00:49:08.519
I do? I heard purge. So I took my whole life

00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:11.400
and I threw it all in the dumpster, locked it

00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:15.519
up, got in my car. and I started driving to California.

00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:18.300
Not only did I not have a job, I was out of money

00:49:18.300 --> 00:49:22.460
and I have no family out in California. I slept

00:49:22.460 --> 00:49:25.219
in my car at rest stops the entire way there.

00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:28.639
I had saved a bunch of canned food, two boxes,

00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.320
so I would eat a can of green beans or a can

00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:34.219
of corn or a can of mixed fruit. That's what

00:49:34.219 --> 00:49:37.000
I would eat all day. I would have a can of that.

00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:41.059
Got to California. I got to Sacramento. I was

00:49:41.059 --> 00:49:42.659
kicked out of there. I tried to sleep, but a

00:49:42.659 --> 00:49:45.599
truck stop was kicked out, ran down, slept in

00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.199
my car for two months. Then I had another profound

00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:51.980
angel experience. And these events just keep

00:49:51.980 --> 00:49:54.760
coming. So when I was sitting there, a person

00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.579
saw me in the rest area, followed me back to

00:49:57.579 --> 00:50:00.980
my car, and he says, you don't mind if I... I

00:50:00.980 --> 00:50:03.159
parked over there. It says no parking. So I said,

00:50:03.739 --> 00:50:06.500
pal, I've been here for two months. No, nobody

00:50:06.500 --> 00:50:09.780
cares. And he's looking around and he goes...

00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:12.260
He was reading my mind, he says, you know, you're

00:50:12.260 --> 00:50:14.579
looking for a girlfriend and I have one and do

00:50:14.579 --> 00:50:17.119
you want her? And I'm like, no, I said, I love

00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:20.179
someone very much. I said, she's back in Wisconsin,

00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.480
but she'll be out here by with me. He leaned

00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.260
in, he goes, you're Jason, right? And I'm like,

00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.699
now this guy's talking with a thick European

00:50:30.699 --> 00:50:34.960
accent, older than me. I said, who are you? He

00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:39.170
goes, you put me here. How? Who are you? I said,

00:50:39.289 --> 00:50:41.630
are you a guide? I said, either that or you're

00:50:41.630 --> 00:50:44.150
ascended master. He leans in. He goes, Jason,

00:50:45.110 --> 00:50:49.710
you put me here. Jason, you're in alignment and

00:50:49.710 --> 00:50:55.190
you're powerful. You need to move now. Where?

00:50:55.849 --> 00:50:58.550
Who are you? I'm feeling this right now. I'm

00:50:58.550 --> 00:51:00.530
beginning to cry. I'm starting to talk to him.

00:51:00.550 --> 00:51:02.809
He goes, Jason, you're telling me nothing I don't

00:51:02.809 --> 00:51:06.789
already know. You're in alignment and you're

00:51:06.789 --> 00:51:10.769
powerful you need to move now And I said look

00:51:10.769 --> 00:51:12.789
out there and he's looking around I said, that's

00:51:12.789 --> 00:51:16.949
all me Everybody hears me. He goes you put me

00:51:16.949 --> 00:51:21.530
here and he goes for the interview. I Said what

00:51:21.530 --> 00:51:24.710
interview? He says you need some he's looking

00:51:24.710 --> 00:51:28.210
and he says You need some new clothes go buy

00:51:28.210 --> 00:51:30.329
a pair of pants and a nice shirt and he says

00:51:30.329 --> 00:51:33.210
don't talk about your spirituality And I knew

00:51:33.210 --> 00:51:34.769
what he meant by, you need to move. You need

00:51:34.769 --> 00:51:37.869
to go back up to Sacramento. And he said, somebody

00:51:37.869 --> 00:51:41.750
needs you. He turned around and left and disappeared.

00:51:42.590 --> 00:51:44.449
I woke up that morning. My phone wouldn't work.

00:51:44.570 --> 00:51:48.210
I couldn't text. I couldn't call. So my phone

00:51:48.210 --> 00:51:52.550
got shut down. So I packed everything up and

00:51:52.550 --> 00:51:55.050
got dressed and went to Sacramento, got a hotel.

00:51:56.150 --> 00:51:59.449
A day later, I got a call from a company. They

00:51:59.449 --> 00:52:02.329
hired me. I started it a week later. Got the

00:52:02.329 --> 00:52:06.690
job. Then I flew out to Next Level Seoul with

00:52:06.690 --> 00:52:09.730
Alex Ferrari, this house that I'm living at for

00:52:09.730 --> 00:52:12.590
now. They bought me the plane ticket and got

00:52:12.590 --> 00:52:15.530
me a hotel out in Texas, where I'm at now. Not

00:52:15.530 --> 00:52:17.909
in Sacramento anymore. I left. Didn't go to Next

00:52:17.909 --> 00:52:20.190
Level Seoul. And then on the way back, I contacted

00:52:20.190 --> 00:52:22.110
this guy at Uber. Didn't think anything about

00:52:22.110 --> 00:52:24.579
it. Do you think of your Uber ride or no? So

00:52:24.579 --> 00:52:26.760
I get in this car, and a young black lady is

00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:28.760
picking on me because of my name. She goes, what

00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:31.000
you here in Texas for? I said, oh, I just did

00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:33.820
an interview, beautiful studio about my death.

00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:36.219
And she goes, you died? So we started talking,

00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:40.539
and she just busted out bawling. And I was talking

00:52:40.539 --> 00:52:42.719
about love and how I love all of you and this

00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.780
experience that I had. And she goes, Jason, you

00:52:45.780 --> 00:52:48.900
don't know how much I needed this. I said, what

00:52:48.900 --> 00:52:52.000
did you say? I sat up. She goes, you don't know

00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.630
how much I needed this. exactly what the angel

00:52:55.630 --> 00:53:00.510
said in October. Somebody needs you. Jason, you

00:53:00.510 --> 00:53:03.590
don't understand how much I needed this. And

00:53:03.590 --> 00:53:06.489
she says, over and over, we're talking for 20

00:53:06.489 --> 00:53:09.050
minutes, 20 minute ride back to my hotel. And

00:53:09.050 --> 00:53:10.909
she said, I need to hug you. Can I please give

00:53:10.909 --> 00:53:14.389
you a hug? So I got out and I gave, I mean, she

00:53:14.389 --> 00:53:16.809
bare hugged me, this beautiful young black woman.

00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.579
probably in her early 20s as an Uber rider trying

00:53:19.579 --> 00:53:21.639
to make right. She just gave me this hug and

00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:23.400
I wiped the tears from her eyes and I said, I

00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:25.260
love you very much. And I said, you're going

00:53:25.260 --> 00:53:28.079
to be okay. Right. And then I walked away and

00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.519
I was like that. I just met the person. That

00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:33.000
angel told me that needed me. How was I supposed

00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:35.320
to know it was in Texas? Right. Get back to this

00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.079
job. Ended up losing the job a few months later.

00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:42.590
Now. Back to being homeless, right? I spent all

00:53:42.590 --> 00:53:45.389
my money I had saved in a hotel trying to thinking

00:53:45.389 --> 00:53:50.090
I needed to stay in California which Wasn't then

00:53:50.090 --> 00:53:52.409
I went to back to living in my car at a different

00:53:52.409 --> 00:53:57.570
truck stop and then lo and behold I got kicked

00:53:57.570 --> 00:54:02.349
out of there which divine timing and then I ended

00:54:02.349 --> 00:54:04.909
up driving down to Texas. They offered me this

00:54:04.909 --> 00:54:08.730
place to stay they're gonna get me a camper to

00:54:09.289 --> 00:54:11.530
travel with and to get into, you know, truck

00:54:11.530 --> 00:54:14.110
stop, not a truck stop, but a, you know, a park

00:54:14.110 --> 00:54:16.989
to RV and RV and land and stuff. And they're

00:54:16.989 --> 00:54:19.329
going to pay for things. And I'm like, I went

00:54:19.329 --> 00:54:21.750
from having what you would consider your life

00:54:21.750 --> 00:54:24.150
in order. You know, like you get up, you go to

00:54:24.150 --> 00:54:26.010
work, you pay your bills, you have a shower,

00:54:26.650 --> 00:54:30.170
make, have regular food to my life being this

00:54:30.170 --> 00:54:32.929
just utterly chaotic mess and what you would

00:54:32.929 --> 00:54:36.989
think destitute. Right. I don't have a job. Don't

00:54:36.989 --> 00:54:41.650
have a home. Went from California now I'm out

00:54:41.650 --> 00:54:44.230
here in Texas only to get this trailer in this

00:54:44.230 --> 00:54:46.949
camper to go back into the Flagstaff area where

00:54:46.949 --> 00:54:48.929
I want to be because you know I greatly enjoy

00:54:48.929 --> 00:54:51.429
Arizona in the mountains. It's just breathtakingly

00:54:51.429 --> 00:54:54.130
beautiful and These are the kind of things that

00:54:54.130 --> 00:54:56.010
I'm going through so people that want a near

00:54:56.010 --> 00:54:59.050
-death experience and you know go through this

00:54:59.050 --> 00:55:02.809
awakening in 2023 also I had my ascension into

00:55:02.809 --> 00:55:06.440
the 5d which was brutal I went from my carbon

00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:10.179
-based body into my crystalline body, which was,

00:55:10.460 --> 00:55:14.019
and I lost my job again. And then on top of all

00:55:14.019 --> 00:55:17.019
of that, you have to remind yourself, I chose

00:55:17.019 --> 00:55:21.679
this. That's it, right? I chose this. That doesn't

00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:24.760
make it any easier. And I found that out when,

00:55:25.019 --> 00:55:27.420
just before I left California, because I quantum

00:55:27.420 --> 00:55:31.179
leaked into a higher timeline, when I got out,

00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:33.639
when I... regressed and went back into the shower

00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:36.699
and I said, you know, I'm out of money. So I

00:55:36.699 --> 00:55:38.559
call God sometimes when I'm stressed, I call

00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.820
him pal. I said, listen, pal, you know, my funds,

00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.539
I'm out of money. I'm out of food. And in three

00:55:44.539 --> 00:55:46.840
days, I truly do not want to go back to living

00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:50.159
in my car. I would really prefer not to. So all

00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:53.579
the help and assistance is, is, is duly appreciated.

00:55:54.099 --> 00:55:57.190
So I sat down on the bed, right. And I heard,

00:55:57.349 --> 00:55:59.630
get the book. So I got the book and I knew exactly

00:55:59.630 --> 00:56:01.869
what it was. Started reading. I'm like, oh my

00:56:01.869 --> 00:56:06.110
God, I did this. I chose this. I chose to be

00:56:06.110 --> 00:56:07.789
a chosen one, which is the higher frequency.

00:56:08.150 --> 00:56:11.110
I chose this life. I chose every part of it.

00:56:11.710 --> 00:56:14.070
And that is when I truly accepted it, right?

00:56:14.150 --> 00:56:16.429
In this aha moment, the light bulb went off and

00:56:16.429 --> 00:56:19.070
I felt this explosion of warmth for me. I got

00:56:19.070 --> 00:56:22.179
up. And for the first time since being in California,

00:56:22.179 --> 00:56:24.079
I opened up my hotel room and I said, I love

00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:26.159
being here. I said, it's just beautiful. Look

00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:31.000
at this, right? Things are blooming and I said,

00:56:31.059 --> 00:56:35.179
it's just beautiful. And then three days later,

00:56:35.179 --> 00:56:39.340
I was back to living in my car, but I chose to

00:56:39.340 --> 00:56:43.000
love the experience of being in my car. I said,

00:56:43.059 --> 00:56:45.699
it's like the emperor's new clothes. I've been

00:56:45.699 --> 00:56:48.320
here. I've done it before. Okay. I can handle

00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:51.179
this, I got it, no worries. And it was really

00:56:51.179 --> 00:56:55.380
the act of surrendering, really truly surrendering

00:56:55.380 --> 00:56:57.699
to the moment, knowing that I was fine, knowing

00:56:57.699 --> 00:57:02.320
that I was safe, knowing that I've done it before

00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:05.880
and everything is going to work out. After that

00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.340
aha moment, I was getting groceries at Walmart

00:57:09.340 --> 00:57:13.900
in California and I was coming back and it was

00:57:13.900 --> 00:57:16.099
after the night I said get the book and I had

00:57:16.099 --> 00:57:20.460
this beautiful moment. and began to love my new

00:57:20.460 --> 00:57:23.019
job, which is teaching. As I started my website,

00:57:23.380 --> 00:57:25.639
I started my YouTube channel, so I have two businesses.

00:57:26.079 --> 00:57:29.320
I began to love that unconditionally, like I'm

00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:33.000
feeling this warmth love. And as I was coming

00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:35.360
back from getting the groceries, I was just in

00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:39.500
a magnificent mood, just. So I came, there was

00:57:39.500 --> 00:57:41.880
a semi to my right, just a big long semi, and

00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:44.059
a car parked in front of me. This is how I know

00:57:44.059 --> 00:57:45.880
I. So I'm sitting there for a second, all of

00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:49.829
a sudden I felt myself speeding forward. So my

00:57:49.829 --> 00:57:51.510
foot is on the brake and I'm white -knuckling

00:57:51.510 --> 00:57:53.030
the steering wheel because there's a car in front

00:57:53.030 --> 00:57:54.869
of me and I'm traveling fast and I'm like, I

00:57:54.869 --> 00:57:55.989
thought I was gonna hit the car and I'm like,

00:57:56.090 --> 00:57:58.170
no, no, no, no, no. What is this? And I was like,

00:57:58.409 --> 00:58:00.369
that lasted for about five or six seconds. And

00:58:00.369 --> 00:58:03.730
I'm like, what was, what the hell was that? Right?

00:58:03.769 --> 00:58:05.889
And I'm feeling all of a sudden very lightheaded,

00:58:06.610 --> 00:58:09.630
like off in La La Land. And I feel like I got

00:58:09.630 --> 00:58:12.010
a vomit, like I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw up.

00:58:12.590 --> 00:58:14.730
And I'm like, what is this? And I'm driving like

00:58:14.730 --> 00:58:17.429
a grandpa, like. I don't want that to happen.

00:58:17.570 --> 00:58:20.510
You're like, it was so weird. I mean, I was moving

00:58:20.510 --> 00:58:23.349
rapidly, but I was standing right sitting in

00:58:23.349 --> 00:58:25.829
my Jeep. So I got back to the hotel, put the

00:58:25.829 --> 00:58:28.949
groceries away, lay down on the bed. That was

00:58:28.949 --> 00:58:32.789
a Monday. And I kept having those feelings for

00:58:32.789 --> 00:58:36.889
about an hour. And I had meditation music and

00:58:36.889 --> 00:58:39.710
what had happened as I quantum leap, I jumped

00:58:39.710 --> 00:58:42.610
into a different timeline. It's quantum physics.

00:58:42.829 --> 00:58:45.889
So I entered a higher reality, a higher version

00:58:45.889 --> 00:58:48.690
of myself. Now, Jason, you're still homeless.

00:58:49.710 --> 00:58:52.889
You have to remember that when these things happen,

00:58:54.130 --> 00:58:56.429
you kind of get put into the void. Your new life

00:58:56.429 --> 00:59:00.030
hasn't begun yet, and your old life is still

00:59:00.030 --> 00:59:02.150
ending. It's like an archer. When it draws back

00:59:02.150 --> 00:59:04.909
the bow, your elbow goes back into a part of

00:59:04.909 --> 00:59:08.110
your old life, right? So you're still living

00:59:08.110 --> 00:59:10.929
there. And then when the archer lets go of the

00:59:10.929 --> 00:59:13.050
arrow, the arrow goes forward and you move into

00:59:13.050 --> 00:59:15.630
your new timeline. So I'm kind of in the void.

00:59:16.750 --> 00:59:18.690
The new hasn't come yet and I'm experiencing

00:59:18.690 --> 00:59:22.889
the old. There are people of various religions

00:59:22.889 --> 00:59:26.429
that because of their background, because of

00:59:26.429 --> 00:59:29.570
the teachings that they grew up with, they're

00:59:29.570 --> 00:59:33.110
going to say, What in the world is this quantum

00:59:33.110 --> 00:59:37.610
leap stuff? What is this numerous lifetimes to

00:59:37.610 --> 00:59:41.250
fulfill this life contract? How are people supposed

00:59:41.250 --> 00:59:44.110
to reconcile that with what they have been taught?

00:59:44.889 --> 00:59:46.650
I'll simply say this, you've been taught horribly

00:59:46.650 --> 00:59:49.789
wrong. That's it. So now people are saying, are

00:59:49.789 --> 00:59:52.710
you saying my Bible is wrong? My scripture is

00:59:52.710 --> 00:59:56.650
wrong, Jason? Absolutely. God doesn't care about

00:59:56.650 --> 00:59:58.869
religion. God did not write the Bible. Man did.

00:59:59.130 --> 01:00:01.309
They wrote the Bible to keep you living in fear.

01:00:01.510 --> 01:00:05.190
It's a control weapon. And it's done its job

01:00:05.190 --> 01:00:08.230
for 2 ,000 years. So for those people that you

01:00:08.230 --> 01:00:11.510
just lost because of that, I know that they can

01:00:11.510 --> 01:00:14.809
learn something from you anyway. I would love

01:00:14.809 --> 01:00:16.969
for you to leave us with some kind of a message

01:00:16.969 --> 01:00:18.949
of hope. You've taught us some beautiful things,

01:00:19.090 --> 01:00:22.210
especially about God's love. Leave us with a

01:00:22.210 --> 01:00:25.010
message of hope today. Leave you with a message

01:00:25.010 --> 01:00:27.730
that you are never alone and that you are loved.

01:00:28.059 --> 01:00:32.340
That this is a non -reality. That what you're

01:00:32.340 --> 01:00:34.820
witnessing and feeling and sealing every day

01:00:34.820 --> 01:00:38.340
is simply a dream, a hallucination, a game. It's

01:00:38.340 --> 01:00:40.539
not real. And that you've never done anything

01:00:40.539 --> 01:00:43.179
wrong. And that you are, that you are loved.

01:00:43.260 --> 01:00:46.099
And you are never alone. Ever. At any point in

01:00:46.099 --> 01:00:49.679
your creation have you been left alone. And at

01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:51.900
some point in time I'm sure you have felt alone

01:00:51.900 --> 01:00:56.340
here. Lost, angry, scared. But I want you all

01:00:56.340 --> 01:00:58.980
to know that you are never alone and that you

01:00:58.980 --> 01:01:02.460
are loved unconditionally and that your Father

01:01:02.460 --> 01:01:05.719
is anxiously awaiting your arrival home. Jason

01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:09.059
Janis, I really appreciate it. All of your insights

01:01:09.059 --> 01:01:12.119
and for sharing and being so open with us. Thank

01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:14.760
you very much for your time today. Absolutely.

01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:18.409
It was a pleasure. Thank you for having me. Thanks

01:01:18.409 --> 01:01:20.829
again for listening and sharing this podcast.

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