Connie's 3 NDEs - Met Jesus: "I Knew He Knew Me"

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From the time that they pronounced me dead was

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a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then

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they paddled my heart, my heart stopped and I

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could see people screaming and crying but I didn't

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realize that was actually my physical body because

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I was somewhere else. The only thing that I could

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feel if you could imagine absolute love and peace,

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there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was

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greeted by people I'd known in the past. I'm

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back home again. Incredibly safe and felt at

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home. Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.

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And hey, we have a special guest here today,

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Connie Fusela. How are you this morning, Connie?

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I'm doing great, thanks. You and I have not had

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much chance to chat. I usually know somebody's

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story from start to finish. before we get to

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this point, but that's not the case today. So

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I'm going to be as surprised as everybody. So

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I'm really looking forward to hearing about your

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near -death experiences and what you've done

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with them. But first, tell us a little bit about

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you. Who's Connie? Sure. So my name is Connie

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Fussella. I am an evidential certified psychic

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medium. I am certified with both the Forever

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Family Foundation, which has been featured on

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the Netflix series, Surviving Death, and also

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the Helping Parents Heal organization. I have

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had three mere death experiences, each of them

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different. Each of them were very spiritually

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transformative and each of them tried to awaken

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my natural born gifts of becoming a psychic medium

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to realize my soul's purpose of being that bridge

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between the spiritual and physical realms. I'm

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also an award -winning author. My book, Shameless

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Plug, You Are So Beautiful, a unique perspective

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into the soul's quest for its destiny, which

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kind of tells my story and talks about solitudes,

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and I'm a teacher and public speaker as well.

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Man, that is a lot. Try to keep it short. Well,

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and by the way, we'll put a link to your site

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in the show notes if anybody wants to look you

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up or check out your book. But what do you think?

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Should we take the NDEs in order from the first

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one to the last one? Do you have a preference?

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Sounds like a plan, no? Let's jump in. How old

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were you when the first one happened? Sure so

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the first one i was in my early twenties it was

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an allergic reaction to medication actually all

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of them were allergic or adverse reactions to

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medication. And i ended up in a state of anaphylaxis

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and rushed to the hospital and then the next

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thing i remember you know i was in this white

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space. There were no wall ceilings floors windows

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just a vast white space very very bright. I was

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sitting in the space with my legs crossed in

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front of me. And then all of a sudden I sense

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the presence and this non human being very tall.

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Walk towards me and place this very big book

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on my lap and as i look down at this book pages

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were glowing so it was like white space white

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everything glowing you know glowing coming out

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of the pages. The pages started to turn by themselves

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and i could see from the time that i was born

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until present day i saw images and people and

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felt the emotions that you know i had experience

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during those times. So eventually i came came

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out of it and. I was discharged the next day

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and I went home and I told my mom about this

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incredible dream that I had had. And I was describing

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for her, you know, the people that I saw, the

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images, like, you know, what kind of decorations

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were on the table or, you know, paintings on

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the wall, very specific details. And I was describing

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events that happened like under the age of three

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with very good detail. So my mom confirmed all

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these events had happened. And so my first near

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-death experience was what's termed a life review.

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Of course, this was the early, well, actually

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mid -80s at the time. So, you know, none of this

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was talked about back then. So I had no idea

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what happened to me. Again, I just thought it

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was a cool dream. Well, I was just going to ask,

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would you call it a life review? So thank you

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for being ahead of me. I find it interesting,

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some of the detail in how people leave. their

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body and go to the other side. So let me ask

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you a little bit of detail here. With this anaphylaxis,

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I can't imagine, I would guess that it's a very

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panicky kind of feeling because you get to where

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you just can't breathe, right? Did you go from

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that to being unconscious and then feeling like

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you left your body or were you kind of saved

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from having to go through that deep panic? Yeah.

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So that's a good question. So I was in that state

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of panic while I was at my workplace. And then,

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uh, you know, because I could feel my throat

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constricting and I was, you know, trying to gasp

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for air. And then once the, uh, the paramedics

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came, you know, whatever they gave me, you know,

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kind of, you know, allowed my breathing to continue

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normally, but then I was unconscious and that's,

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and then after that, I went into that state.

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Okay. Tell me about the life review do you remember

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any of the details how you felt what things you

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saw yeah so i remember specifically like this

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long dining room table with this wooden centerpiece

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and like those fake fake fruits like plastic

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fruits but i remember that they were sparkly.

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there was like a sparkly coating on them and

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my mother said that that was like a great aunt

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of mine and you know went to her house and you

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know strange things like that very vivid details

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about you know silly nonsensical things right

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but like you know pictures on the wall and just

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you know also one of the memories that I saw

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was of my grandmother and I was like you know

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maybe seven eight months old and she was holding

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me up and there was a baby block on the Christmas

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tree. You know, with the letters A, B, C, like

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an ornament, a baby block, and I was touching

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it and my mother was like, yeah, that was the

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ornament she bought you when you were born and

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she was holding you up to the tree. So, you know,

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she was, you know, confirming all of these things

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that happened. But I remember feeling, you know,

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the love and, you know, of the people that I

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interacted with. I, you know, being young at

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the time, you know, in my early twenties, I hadn't

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had a lot of experiences where I would have felt

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sadness or regret or mixed emotions still at

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this point in my life. I was, I was pretty blessed.

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I would say where, you know, I had good experiences.

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So that's, you know, pretty much what I felt.

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Yeah. So not much regret or learn from something

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that you did to somebody or something like that.

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Correct. That's very pleasant. That's nice. Do

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you remember the actually coming back into your

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body or did you just wake up? I just woke up.

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I just woke up. Alright, then you told your mom

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all about it. She confirmed things Okay, was

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there anything else before we move on to number

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two? Well, the thing that started happening is

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after this first NDE is I started having frequent

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occurrences of sleep paralysis And if anybody

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doesn't know what that is it's your kind of trapped

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between the dream and wakening stay in your frozen

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you can't move you can't scream and it can be

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terrifying you can be like a very you know terrifying

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sensation but for me these all came with a similar

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format and that i would be laying in my bed on

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my back and then all of a sudden this would come

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over me and i would hear this. like white humming

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vibration sound, like white noise kind of sensation

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fill, you know, my head. And then I would see

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myself come out of my body in spirit form and

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try to lift myself up. And all the while I kept

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hearing this voice repeating over and over again.

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You need to raise yourself up. You need to raise

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yourself up. You need to raise yourself up. It

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just kept repeating. And then of course i come

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out of it and i think to myself yeah you know

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i need to raise myself up i can't move i need

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to get out of bed and this is what i'm thinking

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and i never understood it until many many many

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years later probably over twenty something years

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later when i became a medium because as a medium

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you have to raise yourself up your vibration

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your energy to communicate to the other side.

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I probably should have prefaced with, I was a

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natural, I am a natural born medium and I had

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awareness of spirit at the age of four. But then

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I forgot who I was. So these near death experiences

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were trying to wake me up. And what these sleep

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paralysis episodes, it was like the other side,

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my team of light were literally giving me the

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keys to the afterlife. Like, you know, Connie,

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all you have to do is raise your vibration and

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be able to connect again, right? But I had no

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idea because I didn't come. from a background

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of, you know, psychics or mediums or anything

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metaphysical. So this did not resonate with me.

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So it fell on deaf ears. And so a couple of years

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later, near -death experience number two happens.

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This one was more medically intensive, another

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allergic reaction to medication or adverse, you

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know, reaction actually. And what was happening

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is that my heart was was beating really fast

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and i was sweaty and i just felt awful and i

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was working in new york city at the time and

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when i got to my place you know in my office

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my co -workers said oh my gosh you look awful

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like i don't feel well at all and she called

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the manager who made the decision to get me to

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a hospital. Luckily, he had on -call car service

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because in Midtown Manhattan in the morning,

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it probably would have been very difficult for

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the ambulance to get to me. So there was car

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service right outside the building. They literally

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wheeled me in my office chair, pushed me down

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the elevator, out to the sidewalk, into the car,

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and there I went to the hospital. I remember

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being wheeled out of the hospital and emergency

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personnel coming with a stretcher and getting

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transferred to the stretcher. Into the hospital

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and then you know of course it to the emergency

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room where you know just hear all beeping and

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noises and people talking and then the next thing

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i remember is i'm floating on the ceiling and

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i'm looking down at my body on the stretcher

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watching the you know doctor and emergency personnel

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work on me. And as i'm watching i see the doctor

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grab the defibrillators. put them on me and I

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see my body like jumping, you know, off the stretcher.

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And then all of a sudden I find myself in a tunnel.

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It was a very, very bright tunnel. I describe

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it as if anybody's had a closed MRI. That's about

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the size that I felt I was in, you know, this

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tunnel. I would describe the sensation of moving

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through it i was on my back feet first as if

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any if anybody's ever bet on a simulation ride

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like a disney you know where you're kind of going

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fast but slow at the same time so that's what

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it felt like and it was just these bright lights

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all around me and i remember thinking like i

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was excited and then again i heard that bright.

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You know that sound that humming vibration sound

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and I could see the light really bright at the

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you know towards the end of the tunnel i'm going

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towards and i'm excited i feel like i'm going

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home i'm really looking forward to this as i

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get to the end my feet touch the end of the tunnel

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where the lights the brightest and they sink

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into this light it was almost like is if your

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feet went into jello is how i would describe

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it. and I call that the glow. So my feet went

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into that glow and then all of a sudden it was

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like, the only way I could describe it is it's

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something that you literally would see in a movie.

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Like I was in the space and it was like zip,

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you know, something you'd see like in a space

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movie or something. I was like pulled right out

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like back. And that's when I woke up. And of

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course I'm in the hospital room and I have no

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idea what happened to me and my, my wrists are

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all bandaged and because they were testing for

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arterial blood gases. So I'm like, what the heck

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happened to me, right? And the doctors told me

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I had gone into ventricular cardiac arrest. I

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was very fortunate that they, you know, that

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I got to the hospital in time. I think you ought

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to be glad that that time you were out of your

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body when they were hitting you with a defibrillator.

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Yeah, it didn't look pleasant. No. You know,

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not everybody has an experience going through

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a tunnel and everybody that does describes it

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completely differently. What do you make of that?

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Why do you think it's different for everybody?

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a lot of it has to do with people's perception.

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Honestly, I think people's acceptance of what's

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going on and maybe even some religious beliefs

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that maybe factor into it. I haven't studied

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a lot of what other people experience. I know

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there's like a tunnel. I know some people describe

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it as vast. I felt it as a smaller space for

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me, but I really feel it has to do with how people

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maybe perceive or against their sense of faith.

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I don't know. I always had a strong sense of

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faith. I was raised Catholic. I always believed

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there was an afterlife, a heaven or something.

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And I don't know if that made a difference. But

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you know, I know for sure as I was going through

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this, I didn't sense any fear at all. In fact,

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I was looking forward to it's nothing but joy

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and love and light. And I was looking forward

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to getting work wherever I was going. So it's

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almost like you Got their incomes came straight

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back before you had a chance to really experience

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it is that how you felt yes yes. Yeah, did you

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feel a little bit robbed as a whole thing? You

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know, again, now I still didn't realize that

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this was an NDE, right? I'm still thinking, oh,

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another cool dream under, you know, the effects

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of medication. But they made up for it with my

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third near -death experience because I did get

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to visit the other side. So they did give me

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a chance. All right. We've been putting off saving

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the best for last. Go ahead and jump into number

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three. Yeah. So what happened, you know, just

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that I should also say right after the second

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one, something changed in me and that as I was

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commuting, I had a two hour commute. It was pretty

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miserable from upstate New York to New York city

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at the time. So I had gone back to work after

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a few weeks of recuperating. But as I came close

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to people, whether it was sitting on the train

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or taking a bus or walking next to them, I started

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to hear names and I started to get little visions.

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So now, you know, I'm starting to remember that

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this happened, you know, when I was a child,

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right? So things are starting to come back to

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me and I'm like, what is going on? So of course

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I had to try to find a way to figure out what

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this was without coming across as a really, a

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weirdo, right? So I would, you know, if I sat

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next to somebody and I hear Frank, Frank, like

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this name, I'd say to them, it was a male. I'd

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say, oh, is she? Frank, you look very familiar,

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you know? And they would say no. Then they would

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say, oh, but my dad's name was Frank and he's

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passed. So things like this was happening where

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I see a vision and it would be like somehow whatever

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I saw the name would either be like a restaurant

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or they go to our own or street they lived out

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there was some correlation to the person sitting

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next to me so this was happening okay after the

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second near -death experience and also let me

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one day to randomly walk in a different direction

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on my lunch hour to a psychic shop. Where i started

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going for readings because i was drawn to it

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and in nineteen ninety one i bought my first

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deck of tarot cards from this place yeah so then

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what happened is is i get the tarot cards i hope

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you know read the meaning nothing resonates with

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me. Which is strange and i put them away and

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i don't touch them for over ten years okay so

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they're in the bottom of a box in my closet.

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During those 10 years a lot was going on with

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me I had to do a lot of soul Evolution and it's

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things that I write about in my book There's

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different levels of soul progression that I had

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to move through To find myself again and my soul

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street purpose. So this entailed getting rid

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of people getting rid of negative things negative

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people negative places so ten years of this this

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is what i was doing during those ten years i

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wasn't hearing or seeing anything because i was

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closed off from it. because of this negativity

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that was around me. So after I made changes,

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my third near -death experience happens. And

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this is in the form of, well, it was a reaction

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after surgery and medication. Again, another

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adverse reaction to medication and the anesthesia

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and all of that. And then all of a sudden, as

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I'm laying there recuperating in bed, I find

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myself in the space of rolling beautiful clouds.

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And as the clouds kind of part, then I'm in this

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beautiful meadow, golden sun and beautiful flowers

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and green grass. It's just lush. It's beautiful.

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vibrant and then these little children running

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towards me like kindergarten age and they grab

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my hands on either side and we start singing

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and dancing in a circle kind of like a ring around

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the rosy type of situation and we're singing

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this song that i know but it's not in any earthbound

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language okay but i know it. and I'm singing

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and I'm so happy and I'm joyful and so this goes

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on for a bit and then the children stop suddenly

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and they kind of part and on either side of me

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and they look you know in front of them and I

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see a man walking towards us and to me this man

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it all respects from my Catholic upbringing every

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picture that I've seen looks exactly as I would

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picture Jesus and I know him on a soul level

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as Jesus okay. And so he comes up to me, he says,

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do you like it here? And I say, of course, I

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love it here. But then at this point in my life,

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I now a single mom with two young boys under

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the age of two, I'm sorry, under the age of six.

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And so I look around and I say, but where are

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my children? Jesus says, well, it's not their

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time yet. And I'm like, okay. And so the little

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children that are around me grab my hands and

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then we do some more singing and dancing, right?

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And then they stop again and Jesus looks at me

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again. And the one thing that stands out about

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this NDE that was so impactful for me is the

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way that Jesus looked at me because his eyes

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changed colors like the ocean. So they were like

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green and gold and blue and brown and they were

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like moving. And when he looked at me, it wasn't

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like he was looking at me or through me. It was

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like I knew he knew me, all of me, this life,

00:20:01.869 --> 00:20:05.369
past lives, future lives. Like he knew all of

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me and I was loved and I was accepted. And it

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was such an incredible feeling to feel that,

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like just kind of emanate and fill me. But he

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asked me again, do you like it here? And of course

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again said, yeah, I love it here, but where are

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my children? And he said, it's not their time

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and it's not your time either. You have yet to

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become who you were meant to be. And with that,

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I wake up thinking, yeah, another cool dream.

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And who am I supposed to be? What does that mean?

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Wow. Can you describe the children any more than

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that? They were very, I guess the word I would

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use is like sort of rosy cherub looking. They

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were like, you know, beautiful pink, soft skin,

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rosy cheeks, their eyes, you know, bright and

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glowing. And most of them for some reason had

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like curly hair. That's what I remember. They

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had like some wave or curl to the hair, full

00:21:04.849 --> 00:21:08.319
hair, right? They were just. grinning happy.

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I wouldn't say, I don't want to say chubby, but

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they were, you know, meaty, I guess is a good

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word, right? They weren't little thin scrawny

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kids. They were, they were, you know, they would

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just were like, you just want to like squeeze.

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Yeah. Really adorable, cute kids. Well, and you

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mentioned that you recognize Jesus immediately

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because he, what he looked like the pictures

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you had grown up with in church. Absolutely.

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Yep. Absolutely yep. And you described his eyes

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which was really interesting but how did you

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feel around him i just was filled with love and

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enjoy like i can't. I can't really you can't

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really put words to the the feeling because it's

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um it's complete it's whole it's safe it's it's

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light I guess um it's it just was an incredible

00:22:02.500 --> 00:22:06.039
feeling I've never felt anything like that since

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I mean it's it's uh I really you can't put words

00:22:09.339 --> 00:22:12.680
to that feeling it just just filled your whole

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being with just like lightness like as if you

00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.059
could just float you felt so light What else

00:22:19.059 --> 00:22:20.779
did you experience there that you haven't told

00:22:20.779 --> 00:22:24.420
me yet? I also felt when I was there, it was

00:22:24.420 --> 00:22:28.059
interesting because he kept asking, do you like

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it here? And I kept answering, yes. And I knew

00:22:32.660 --> 00:22:36.720
somehow that I was going to come here again.

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And I knew somehow that after this experience,

00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:44.140
when he said you have yet to become who you were

00:22:44.140 --> 00:22:47.259
meant to be, I knew that I was going to find

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out what that meant. And I knew that I had like

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a long journey ahead of me to make it happen.

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But it was interesting because I remember that

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feeling. But then I remember when I woke up,

00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:04.380
I was like, well, I really didn't know on a human

00:23:04.380 --> 00:23:06.839
level when I woke up, like who I was supposed

00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:09.819
to be. But I remember feeling on a soul level,

00:23:10.019 --> 00:23:12.759
I'm going to remember. I'm going to remember.

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If that makes any sense. Yeah. So what did you

00:23:16.380 --> 00:23:18.599
have to do to remember and to figure out what

00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:21.680
you were supposed to be? So a few weeks after

00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:25.319
this, you know, NDE, I got a random call from

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a lady that was coordinating a psychic fair in

00:23:28.740 --> 00:23:32.180
South Florida. And she was short some readers

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and she wanted to know if I would be a tarot

00:23:35.259 --> 00:23:38.180
card reader at this fair. Now, I don't know how

00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:41.019
she got my name, my number. I have never done

00:23:41.019 --> 00:23:44.680
readings. Okay. But I said, hold on a second,

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and I ran to my bedroom. Now, this is over 10

00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:50.220
years later since I bought that deck of tarot

00:23:50.220 --> 00:23:53.500
cards in 1991 from that psychic shop in New York

00:23:53.500 --> 00:23:57.400
City. But I still had that box in my closet after

00:23:57.400 --> 00:23:59.500
moving several times. And I went through that

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box. And of course, there's the tarot cards there

00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:04.640
at the bottom. And I ran back to the phone and

00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:08.140
I said, yes, I'll do it. So this was a Thursday

00:24:08.140 --> 00:24:11.220
afternoon and the fair was Saturday afternoon.

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Saturday morning rolls around and it was like

00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:19.480
reality just sunk in and hit me like wham, right?

00:24:19.859 --> 00:24:24.839
And I said to myself, oh my God, what are you

00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:27.519
thinking? What are you doing? Like, how are you

00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.900
going to go do these readings? You've never done

00:24:29.900 --> 00:24:32.079
a reading. I have no idea what the cards mean.

00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:35.140
I don't know what I'm going to do. Anybody that

00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:37.720
knows me, I never stand anybody up. Okay, if

00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.119
I commit to something, I'm gonna come to that

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unless there's something, you know, really life

00:24:42.779 --> 00:24:44.660
-threatening that's keeping me from doing it.

00:24:44.779 --> 00:24:47.940
So my plan was is I would show up and tell this

00:24:47.940 --> 00:24:50.759
lady, I can't do readings, but I'll help you,

00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:53.180
I'll greet you. customers, I'll, you know, serve

00:24:53.180 --> 00:24:55.740
coffee, I'll do something. So this was my plan.

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So I show up there. She's very frazzled. She

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like drags me down this long corridor. This is

00:25:01.980 --> 00:25:04.400
your place. This is your table, two chairs, blah,

00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:06.599
blah, blah, blah. And I said, hold on, sorry,

00:25:06.740 --> 00:25:08.910
I have to tell you something. I'm not going to

00:25:08.910 --> 00:25:11.569
be able to do this. I'm very sorry." And she

00:25:11.569 --> 00:25:15.309
cut me right off. She said, no, I'm sure I need

00:25:15.309 --> 00:25:17.589
you to do reading. She said you would. And she

00:25:17.589 --> 00:25:20.190
was like really agitated. I was kind of a little

00:25:20.190 --> 00:25:24.410
afraid. So I said, okay, okay, okay. So I sat

00:25:24.410 --> 00:25:27.009
there praying that nobody would show up. And

00:25:27.009 --> 00:25:29.589
then about 15 minutes or so later, a lady showed

00:25:29.589 --> 00:25:32.740
up in her mid fifties. And she wanted a reading.

00:25:33.180 --> 00:25:35.480
So I said, okay, I don't know what I'm doing.

00:25:35.660 --> 00:25:38.039
I grabbed those cards and so they pulled them

00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.240
pulled out one time, right? And so it was painful

00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.279
because she sees me struggling to get the cards.

00:25:42.380 --> 00:25:44.319
It's a new card deck, right? And so she's already

00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.819
kind of like, I don't know about this one. So

00:25:46.819 --> 00:25:49.539
I start putting the cards down nervously in this

00:25:49.539 --> 00:25:51.539
big circle. And I don't know what I'm doing.

00:25:51.579 --> 00:25:53.500
I see the space in the middle. I put some more

00:25:53.500 --> 00:25:55.480
in the middle and I keep going, going, going.

00:25:55.539 --> 00:25:58.160
And I use all 76 cards without saying a word.

00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:01.759
So she says are you ever gonna say anything?

00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:05.059
So I was so nervous. I was nauseous I was sweating

00:26:05.059 --> 00:26:08.480
so I just looked down at this mess that I made

00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:12.099
on the table and then all of a sudden The strangest

00:26:12.099 --> 00:26:15.519
thing happened. It was like a pulse of electricity

00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:19.119
came into the top of my head and just like Reverberated

00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.099
through my body and when I looked down at the

00:26:22.099 --> 00:26:24.519
cards, it was all these like pictures. It's all

00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:28.150
I saw I just started talking and i said to her

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there's something about like a secret of family

00:26:31.910 --> 00:26:34.950
secret that was kept hidden for many years that

00:26:34.950 --> 00:26:38.150
just you know came out in the open it has to

00:26:38.150 --> 00:26:41.190
do with somebody passing and then i see something

00:26:41.190 --> 00:26:44.210
about legal papers communication from a lawyer

00:26:44.210 --> 00:26:47.109
and then there's a trip to a foreign country

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into the. two weeks, two months, and then there's

00:26:50.059 --> 00:26:53.059
all this money that comes to you, this big windfall

00:26:53.059 --> 00:26:57.220
of money. Do you understand any of this? So the

00:26:57.220 --> 00:27:01.240
lady says, I just found out a few weeks ago that

00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:05.400
I was adopted because my biological father who

00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:08.839
lives in Europe passed away and his attorney

00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:12.500
contacted me because I'm the sole beneficiary

00:27:12.500 --> 00:27:15.500
to his estate and I'm leaving in two weeks to

00:27:15.500 --> 00:27:20.680
collect my vast inheritance. So somehow I knew

00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:24.900
things without knowing how I knew them just by

00:27:24.900 --> 00:27:26.980
looking at those cards. I don't know, didn't

00:27:26.980 --> 00:27:29.640
know the meanings of the cards, anything. And

00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:32.779
that's how it started. Yeah, so let me ask you

00:27:32.779 --> 00:27:35.900
this. So a lot of people come back after their

00:27:35.900 --> 00:27:39.200
NDEs with some kind of what I like to call spiritual

00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:41.599
gifts. And you've heard about these and they're

00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:43.940
like what you experienced. There's all kinds

00:27:43.940 --> 00:27:48.130
of other things. Even some like I've met with

00:27:48.130 --> 00:27:51.509
some people that could read the thoughts of animals.

00:27:52.190 --> 00:27:53.990
You know, there's all kinds of different gifts.

00:27:54.630 --> 00:27:58.809
I guess the question that I'm getting at is for

00:27:58.809 --> 00:28:04.109
someone who's had an NDE and feels like there

00:28:04.109 --> 00:28:06.890
is something, there's some kind of a gift I have

00:28:06.890 --> 00:28:09.529
that I am different with now, but they can't

00:28:09.529 --> 00:28:11.529
figure it out. They can't really find it. What

00:28:11.529 --> 00:28:14.130
advice do you have for them? Yeah, that's a good

00:28:14.130 --> 00:28:17.240
question. You need to quiet your mind, number

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one, right? Because what happens is, and this

00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:23.279
what happened to me, I saw spirit and I heard

00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.000
spirit at the age of four, but of course I didn't

00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.539
understand it. Then, you know, go through life,

00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.140
your analytical mind takes over, things happen,

00:28:31.299 --> 00:28:34.119
you know, you go through jobs, children, helping

00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:36.059
with parents, all this kind of stuff, right?

00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:40.319
And we get distracted. So I feel that, you know,

00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:44.390
you have to... Do what i call spiritual hygiene

00:28:44.390 --> 00:28:48.130
alright and take time for yourself take time

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to quiet your mind whether it's just you know

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sitting quietly meditating reading a book walking

00:28:53.849 --> 00:28:58.009
in nature yoga painting something listening to

00:28:58.009 --> 00:29:02.349
music but take time to get in touch with your

00:29:02.349 --> 00:29:06.319
own true self with your soul. Okay, and then

00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.240
just sit there in the quiet because it's in the

00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.819
quiet that you're going to get the answers and

00:29:11.819 --> 00:29:14.180
even if you can't meditate It's very strange.

00:29:14.180 --> 00:29:17.460
I admit it. I can't meditate I'm a medium and

00:29:17.460 --> 00:29:20.059
I can't meditate my mind goes a hundred miles

00:29:20.059 --> 00:29:24.039
an hour So I listen to upbeat music upbeat music

00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.039
does it for me because I just lose myself I have

00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.579
to just get out of my you know, all my groceries

00:29:30.579 --> 00:29:33.220
my dogs, right? I have to get out of that So

00:29:33.220 --> 00:29:35.940
you have to find something that just takes you

00:29:35.940 --> 00:29:39.160
out of everyday life and lets you relax and then

00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:41.900
put your intentions out there. What am I supposed

00:29:41.900 --> 00:29:44.460
to do? What do you want me to do? You know, what

00:29:44.460 --> 00:29:47.319
direction do I need to go in? And just wait and

00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.119
listen for the answers. I don't know if it's

00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:54.039
that easy for everybody to just listen for the

00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:57.099
answers, but it sounds like at some point you're

00:29:57.099 --> 00:29:59.500
gonna feel directed and you need to take that

00:29:59.500 --> 00:30:02.690
flying leap. You went ahead and dealt those cards.

00:30:03.410 --> 00:30:05.509
Right. Even though you had no idea what was going

00:30:05.509 --> 00:30:09.130
to happen next. Right. And I was pushed. I was,

00:30:09.130 --> 00:30:11.630
you know, a little lined up, even though I was

00:30:11.630 --> 00:30:14.029
like, I tried to get out of it. Right. And it

00:30:14.029 --> 00:30:17.410
just, it just lined up and it will line up for

00:30:17.410 --> 00:30:20.509
you. You know you're in the right place the right

00:30:20.509 --> 00:30:23.009
time and of course everybody has work to do and

00:30:23.009 --> 00:30:25.509
that's what i read about in my book i talk about

00:30:25.509 --> 00:30:28.250
the soul levels that people get trapped in and

00:30:28.250 --> 00:30:30.890
they're called solitude there's five of them

00:30:30.890 --> 00:30:33.690
and so i use my life is an example how i came

00:30:33.690 --> 00:30:36.130
into this world in the clear solitude meaning

00:30:36.130 --> 00:30:38.589
i was communicating with spirit at the age of

00:30:38.589 --> 00:30:41.069
four that's what i was always meant to do but

00:30:41.069 --> 00:30:43.960
then i forgot. who I was. And I had to go through

00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.599
all these different levels, the confused, the

00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:48.779
compromised, the closed. There's five different

00:30:48.779 --> 00:30:51.420
categories till I got back to clear again, which

00:30:51.420 --> 00:30:54.079
is the goal as we take our human bodies, right?

00:30:54.299 --> 00:30:56.900
Our soul knows what our true purpose is, but

00:30:56.900 --> 00:30:59.720
then as a human, we get led astray. So there's

00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:01.720
all these things that happen in people's lives.

00:31:01.940 --> 00:31:04.160
And I always say, you know, you've heard this,

00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.240
this saying lessons are often blessings. We don't

00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:09.859
see it at the moment, but it just may be the

00:31:09.859 --> 00:31:11.779
universe, your team on the other side. by giving

00:31:11.779 --> 00:31:14.279
you a nudge to go in a different direction. So

00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.819
pay attention. Sometimes it's so easy. It simply

00:31:17.819 --> 00:31:21.339
is, is what brings you joy? Because on some level

00:31:21.339 --> 00:31:25.059
your soul knows what brings you joy. People like

00:31:25.059 --> 00:31:27.640
always ask me like, can you tell me what my soul's

00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.440
purpose is? Well, nobody can tell you, you have

00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.849
to find that out yourself, right? But. Don't

00:31:32.849 --> 00:31:35.069
over complicate it. Don't think that you had

00:31:35.069 --> 00:31:37.910
to come in to be like a neurosurgeon or something

00:31:37.910 --> 00:31:41.089
Maybe your soul's purpose in this lifetime was

00:31:41.089 --> 00:31:44.250
to be a mother Maybe your soul's purpose was

00:31:44.250 --> 00:31:47.849
to rescue a dog. It can be so simple like that

00:31:47.849 --> 00:31:50.190
because maybe in past lives You never had pets

00:31:50.190 --> 00:31:52.569
maybe in past lives. You didn't have children

00:31:52.569 --> 00:31:56.269
So it could be so simple, but people do tend

00:31:56.269 --> 00:31:59.710
to over complicate it I think for all of us part

00:31:59.710 --> 00:32:03.829
of our purpose is to find joy Period. That's

00:32:03.829 --> 00:32:06.029
what eternity is all about. We should be able

00:32:06.029 --> 00:32:10.150
to find a measure of that here as well. Speaking

00:32:10.150 --> 00:32:13.730
of eternity, from all of these experiences put

00:32:13.730 --> 00:32:16.690
together and the time that you've had to digest

00:32:16.690 --> 00:32:21.890
them, what have you learned or think you know

00:32:21.890 --> 00:32:27.049
now about the afterlife, about more than just

00:32:27.049 --> 00:32:29.609
what happens here on earth? One, it's interesting

00:32:29.609 --> 00:32:33.740
because I felt a little bit as a fraud, I guess

00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:36.920
I'll put it, as a medium because I was very qualified

00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.380
medium doing very highly evidential readings,

00:32:39.619 --> 00:32:42.599
but I hadn't lost anybody yet. that was close

00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:46.220
to me. So I didn't experience that grief, right?

00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.660
And that, you know, like, oh my gosh, what happens?

00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:52.619
And then I lost my dad. And so even at that point,

00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.240
my readings just went like the quality just went

00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.700
way up because that missing piece had to come

00:32:57.700 --> 00:33:00.140
into me for me to kind of feel all sides of it,

00:33:00.140 --> 00:33:03.579
right? But what I know from my near death experiences

00:33:03.579 --> 00:33:06.140
and being able to communicate with the other

00:33:06.140 --> 00:33:10.019
side is that love never dies. Number one, it's

00:33:10.019 --> 00:33:13.440
eternal. People i would say you know when i lost

00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:18.359
my dad not that it was easy but i knew where

00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:21.619
he was going what he was going to feel and that

00:33:21.619 --> 00:33:25.059
made it so much easier for me to deal with because

00:33:25.059 --> 00:33:28.119
i think about if people don't believe in an afterlife

00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.119
right or you know if i go back to my catholic

00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:34.319
upbringing right and i say okay alright my dad's

00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:36.539
past okay he's up there with the angels having

00:33:36.539 --> 00:33:38.539
a good time that's all great for him but what

00:33:38.539 --> 00:33:42.059
does that do for me. All i have is pictures here

00:33:42.059 --> 00:33:45.200
and memories i don't. Have any way to communicate

00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.920
with him or feel his right right if i'm going

00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.299
by my the way that i was raised but now knowing

00:33:51.299 --> 00:33:54.039
you know that there is an afterlife they send

00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.940
a sign state communicate like goes on that this

00:33:57.940 --> 00:34:00.900
here. On Earth, it's just a school, it's just

00:34:00.900 --> 00:34:04.700
a learning program for us that life goes on.

00:34:05.539 --> 00:34:08.219
And having beautiful experiences, even though

00:34:08.219 --> 00:34:11.619
medically they were issues, but I never felt

00:34:11.619 --> 00:34:14.860
anything but light and love and peace and joy.

00:34:15.380 --> 00:34:19.179
I would tell anyone, keep the faith. You're just

00:34:19.179 --> 00:34:22.820
here temporary and this is nothing compared to

00:34:22.820 --> 00:34:25.280
the many lives you're going to have after this.

00:34:26.019 --> 00:34:28.159
That's such a beautiful wrap up i don't even

00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.539
know where to go from here but to say thank you

00:34:31.539 --> 00:34:35.090
connie you're welcome is my pleasure. Before

00:34:35.090 --> 00:34:37.230
we do wrap up, is there anything else that you

00:34:37.230 --> 00:34:39.130
think would be important to talk about to our

00:34:39.130 --> 00:34:42.289
audience? Try not to look too hard for solutions

00:34:42.289 --> 00:34:45.849
and let them come organically or naturally and

00:34:45.849 --> 00:34:48.670
just pay attention. Pay attention to the people

00:34:48.670 --> 00:34:52.070
that come into your life, the circumstances that

00:34:52.070 --> 00:34:55.170
happen. Again, you may have had some hard times,

00:34:55.429 --> 00:34:58.659
but where did you end up? Try to piece that together

00:34:58.659 --> 00:35:00.679
and I think that if you do that, you'll look

00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.579
back and you'll have a better understanding and

00:35:03.579 --> 00:35:06.059
maybe a better appreciation of things that happened

00:35:06.059 --> 00:35:08.760
in your life and realize, okay, that's why that

00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:11.719
happened because now I'm this person now. This

00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.960
changed me. This influenced me or this person

00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.800
influenced me. So really just take the time.

00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:21.119
They could be maybe insignificant events that

00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.719
you thought at the time, but they probably were

00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.699
very impactful if you reflect on them. I like

00:35:27.699 --> 00:35:30.019
it. Thank you. All right, if anybody wants to

00:35:30.019 --> 00:35:32.800
get a hold of Connie, it's meaningful messages

00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:35.380
dot info and it will there will be a link down

00:35:35.380 --> 00:35:38.320
in the show notes to make it easy for you. But

00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.579
thanks again, Connie. Appreciate your time today.

00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:45.869
You're welcome, Eric. It's been a pleasure. Thanks

00:35:45.869 --> 00:35:48.269
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