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May 9, 2023

#323 - Robyn Peterson Explains How To Process NDE's

#323 - Robyn Peterson Explains How To Process NDE's
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Robyn Peterson has extensive experience with Near Death Experiences and other spiritual experiences. In this episode she explains ways for experiencers, both old and young, to process their NDE's. We discuss people who want to have an NDE and alternative safe ways to have spiritual experiences. Learn about how these experiences are in harmony with the quantum realm, quantum physics, quantum entanglement, string theory and more. How science and spiritualism interact in harmony with each other. Lastly, we discuss the spiritual awakening that seems to be happening worldwide. AmazingRobyn.com RoundTripDeath.com Donate to the show @ https://www.roundtripdeath.com/support/

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I had intense fear and panic because we were obviously crashing.

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Out of my heart came the thought, oh, God help, I'm going to die.

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From the time that they pronounced me dead was a good 45 minutes.

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It's determined that I was not breathing for 20 minutes.

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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart.

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My heart had stopped and I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize

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that was actually my physical body because I was somewhere else.

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About 20 past four in the afternoon, by half past seven I was dead.

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Clinically dead, four minutes.

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And they were crying because I was dead and I was trying to tell them, no, I'm not dead,

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I'm just fine, I'm okay.

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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.

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I started to feel like I was surrounded by all this warm, loving, beautiful, soothing,

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loving energy.

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I'm back with God again.

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I just felt this almighty release like, wow, I'm back, I'm back home again.

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Incredibly safe and felt at home.

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I'd come back home.

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It was a very strong feeling, I've come back home.

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The only thing that I could feel, if you can imagine absolute love and peace, there wasn't

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anything else to be felt.

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And light is literally emitting from him.

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And I could feel that that tremendous amount of love was coming through him as well.

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They were brighter than everybody else.

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And I just knew who they were.

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We would like to welcome onto the show with us today, Robin Peterson, who's over in the

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beautiful mountains of Colorado.

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Robin, how are you today?

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I am doing so fantastic.

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I'm so excited about all the things we're going to talk about today.

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And it happens to be beautiful up, which is fantastic too.

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It is beautiful here too.

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It is just a absolutely glorious morning today.

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Before we get started, I think I'll warn our listeners just a little bit.

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This is going to be an unusual interview today.

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Normally, we are digging deep into people's near death experiences and talking about all

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the little details and that kind of thing.

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Today is going to be much more about how to interpret those.

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And for people that have had NDEs and don't know how to process what they've been through,

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that's much of what we're going to be talking about with Robin.

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And would you mind giving us a little bit of your background?

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Absolutely.

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So how I kind of gained a lot of traction was years ago, right before the Japan earthquake

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and tsunami, I had predicted that and positioned myself.

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And because of that, people were starting to inquire certain abilities, capabilities,

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and gifts that I had.

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Because of that, I was being featured all over Discovery, CNN, National Geographic.

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I was in every type of documentary about the second coming, Armageddon, the Mayan calendar.

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And I became kind of an expert in that, mainly because I had some seer capabilities, meaning

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I could see things from the past, current, and future, especially if I hyper-focused

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on that.

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And then I also had a lot of training.

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So I'm a holistic doctor.

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I'm a homeopathic.

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I have a specialty in quantum physics.

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I'm a survival instructor.

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I'm a firearm instructor.

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I have extensive training and sniper training and all kinds of things.

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I would prepare people for catastrophic events.

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But as I was doing all of that kind of behind the scenes with the government and large organizations,

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people would hyper-focus on the doom side, not the doom and gloom, and never wanted to

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hear about the beauty and the miracles and the blessings that I would see with all of

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these experiences.

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So I kind of got out of that industry and started to focus more on the healing side

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and focusing on the miracles.

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And through that, which was in the last 10 years, I really started to develop a capability

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and spiritual protocols so that people could have the same experiences, the same gifts,

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the same visions, the same ability to see in past, current, and future.

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So I started training people on how to open up their third eye to be able to have revelation,

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visions, dreams, prophecies, and then go into spiritual gifts.

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If people want to have face-to-face contact with their heavenly family or what we call

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God, things like that so that they could.

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Because I always believed that there was nothing special about me, I think that everybody is

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capable and deserving, and it is something that is bestowed upon them if they invoke

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it.

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So I've had some very sacred, very deep, profound spiritual experiences, especially in the last

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15 years when I started to really inquire of these profound, above-us, higher things

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that we're talking about.

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And so as I was having my own experiences, I started to develop in a way where I wanted

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it on demand.

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And so that's when I started to create the protocols, how we could get there, how I could

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get there, how I could train others to get there.

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So that's kind of that in a nutshell.

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Thank you.

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And by the way, there's way more than we can talk about today, and we will put links in

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our show notes of how people can get a hold of you and find further information on some

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of these things.

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I'd like to start with people that have had a near-death experience specifically, since

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that's what mostly is on our show here.

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And one of the things that I find as I'm talking with these wonderful people who are sharing

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with us is that it's very difficult to process what they've been through.

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There are a really high number of divorces, for example, with people that have had NDEs.

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I don't know the reasons why.

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I don't know that anybody has really studied that specific thing.

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But I know that people are often changed.

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And so let's talk a little bit, Robin, about how do people process a wonderful experience

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like this that they have had?

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Well, I think where the challenge is, is when you've had a spiritual experience like this,

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which I can understand because I've had them too, is what happens is everything that was

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in your core belief, whether that was as an atheist or Christian or any type of religion,

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it doesn't matter.

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Now it just got shaken at its core.

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Everything you thought you knew, everything you thought you believed is now different

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in seconds.

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And on top of that, you have this profound information that is now you're unrelatable

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to the rest of the world, including your partner, which is isolating, scary, and lonely.

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And then you have nobody to talk to about it because they can't relate.

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And some of the things that you might say will also shake someone at their core of their

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foundation.

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So you have to be very selective.

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You have to be able to explain it.

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You want someone to connect with you on that level, or you're going to feel alone and reject

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it.

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Especially if the first people that you share with call you crazy and tell you to just be

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quiet.

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Oh, absolutely.

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And the only reason they're doing that is because they don't want to be shaken at their

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core.

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Especially like if somebody believes in God, and they're a Christian or they're LDS or

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whatever it is, and they really feel that they know God, and you're telling them something

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different, they have to reject that for their own sanity, their own core beliefs.

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Our core beliefs is our programming.

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That's like our core processor in our computer.

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We can't work that out and still go on every day.

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But for a person who has an NDE, that's what's happened to them.

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Their whole core processor of their computer has been ripped out, but they're supposed

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to just keep living, keep processing, keep going and computing, and they can't.

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And then for their closest friends and family, or even their minister, their bishop, their

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priest, to back off and then again isolate them, that's a crisis.

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So now they just had this incredible, beautiful experience typically.

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Some of them had to go a little dark for a minute, but usually it's always a beautiful

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experience one way or another.

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Then they go into this darkness of the world of the rejection and non-relating and isolation.

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It's almost, and I could see where some people can go into this place like, God, why have

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you done this to me?

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Why have you shown me all these things with no interpretation, no understanding?

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I can't talk to anybody about it.

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Now I'm alone and you're not giving me the multiple confirmations of what I'm interpreting.

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But there is a way.

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There is a way and unfortunately it's just not being trained or taught to the world.

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Nat.

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So what are some of the tools that might help them?

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Well, first, I think that there's this misconception, especially if you're a believer, that we've

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been taught to be humble, content and praise for what we have and what we've received instead

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of inquiring, almost demanding more, asking for more and seeking more.

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So there's a big difference there because humble means like you're not inquiring in

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a way, you're not seeking, you're not asking more of God or the world or whatever.

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It's kind of like waiting upon the Lord kind of feeling.

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But humbleness is really about being teachable.

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And when you're teachable, so for instance, everybody has dreams.

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There's normal dreams and then there's a dream that you have that's just different.

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You know it's different.

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It's almost like a warning, it's kind of prophetic, it's showing you something that's a little

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supernatural.

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Now everybody has those that most majority of the population you would say, but I don't

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know what it means.

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Very similar to what a near-death experience is.

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So whether it's a 10-point magnitude and a near-death experiences or two or three and

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a prophetic dream, they still don't have the understanding.

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Very similar.

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But this is how God and the universe or your heavenly family or whatever you want to call

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it, we all have these different titles.

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Okay, but this is how it works.

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We get something and then they see how we react to it.

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Are we inquiring of it?

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Do we want more or did it overwhelm us?

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Did we dismiss it?

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Did we just say, hey, cool, thank you, that was an awesome dream.

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And then we moved on and didn't think about it again.

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That's the difference.

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So when you have an experience, it's an opportunity.

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It's like a door being opened up to you to inquire.

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But what's cool about God and our whole heavenly family is what some people label as our spiritual

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teams or spirit guides, all of it.

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They're all in a delegation team together.

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When that door is open, we have an opportunity to inquire, to seek, to ask, to get revelation,

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to ask for the capacity for our brains to expand so that we can understand.

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We can ask about very specific symbols, lights, things that we saw, things that we experienced,

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things that we felt individually one by one what they mean and then ask for more, ask

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for more understanding.

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But it needs to be line upon line.

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And most people believe that they'll never get the answers.

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They'll ask God maybe one time and if those answers aren't coming, then they kind of just

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give up and feel like it's going to be a mystery of their life.

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And then on top of that, if you are religious and you go and talk to a minister or bishop

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or your preacher, they don't have the answers for you either.

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So you'll typically hear things like, you know what, it doesn't pertain to your salvation,

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does it?

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So it really doesn't matter.

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Let's just focus on what really matters.

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And that's a way of justification or a blow off to you because they don't have the answers

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either.

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And then you give up again.

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So I would say it all starts with believing that you can inquire and get more.

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You don't have to have a near death experience to have that same experience again.

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And the cool thing about a near death experience is it's now just open something up in the

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brain physically to where you can now produce higher levels of DMT in the brain, which is

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in the pineal gland.

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And in that capability, you can now learn how to produce even more levels of TMT instead

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of dying to do it.

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And so there are some spiritual protocols that you can do that take some practice.

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You know, the more you put into it, the better it's going to be.

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But really, everybody has that capacity, but not everybody's willing to put in the work

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and experiment.

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And if I may just add something to this, I think sometimes it's beneficial to just be

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able to discuss this with somebody that can relate to it and be completely nonjudgmental

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about it.

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And a good place to find others like that is on the IANS groups, the International Association

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for Near Death Studies.

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And they have groups all over the country.

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And most of these, I've been to some of them, are just wonderful, again, very nonjudgmental

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people, that it's good, you know, it's kind of a shoulder to cry on type thing.

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And I think that can be helpful emotionally, as well as the spiritual side that you're

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talking about.

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Dr. Ketchum Absolutely, I was just going to say that all

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of my clients who do like my spiritual awakening classes that are trained to have these experiences

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or get confirmation about those experiences, I always put them on to group chats.

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And they all have each other's contacts.

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I have group chats going on still to this day from over 10 years ago, because they have

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all become best friends.

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They can talk about things with each other that they can never talk about with their

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spouse because they are now relating, they're bonded together.

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And they can give multiple confirmations to each other.

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Now that's the key.

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Confirmations are way more important than even the experience itself.

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And I'll give you an example.

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If God comes to me face to face, that is a pretty profound experience.

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Like almost everybody in the world would love that.

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But a month later, my human self is going to go into doubt.

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I'm going to question it.

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I'm going to wonder if I was hallucinating.

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I'm going to wonder if I am being deceived.

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I'm going to wonder if I have a mental illness.

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If I made the whole thing up, was it just a dream?

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Or maybe I had a fever.

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All that stuff is going to come into play and you're going to doubt.

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So this is why the scriptures say that we need a first, second, and third witness.

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So let's just look at witnesses more of a confirmation.

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I need multiple confirmations that that was real, that that was true, that what I saw,

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what I felt was real.

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And that's why it's so important that people in those groups connect because A, they can

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confirm, B, they can share a little missing piece of the puzzle.

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In my spiritual awakening classes, when I'm teaching this how to open up the third eye

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and expand your levels of DMT in the brain, I teach them how to test things in the quantum

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field.

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So teaching how to test things that they're of truth and light.

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Are they real?

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Are they up to serments?

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Are they of 100% truth?

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Am I asking the right questions?

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Things like that so that you can get one form of confirmation and then you can get a confirmation

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from God, you're having a family or others, that kind of thing.

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But it's really, really important to get those confirmations.

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And I think if people would learn how to get those in multiple ways, they would be better

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off because even if their spouse or their minister is telling them, no, that's crazy,

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you were dead, how do you even know?

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Or maybe that was just something you saw in your mind or whatever, then you would back

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off.

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Whereas you could get multiple confirmations and you don't need their confirmation because

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they're not aligning to you and they can't relate to you.

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That makes sense.

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Tell me about children.

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Is it any different with how we can help them process what they've experienced?

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I think that children don't have a difficulty processing the way that adults do because

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they don't have all of the baggage, the trauma, the belief systems of the world, of their

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schools, of religion, their trauma and defeat from their parents, things like that, that

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are restricting parts of the brain.

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So they can interpret things very basically, very simply.

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Whereas an adult's wanting it to be complex, they're wanting it to just be this Big Bang

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kind of story, whereas a child can interpret it very easily and simply.

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So I think that they're pretty well.

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But also I think if they need companionship in that, especially as they get a little bit

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older, then again, I would connect them to people that were in that age group that got

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a little bit older as well so that they have a different friend group.

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And this is what I call our tribe.

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These are our tribe.

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So we have friends and family that not necessarily are in our tribe and people need to be very

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clear about that.

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We love them, but they're not our tribe sometimes.

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It's definitely spiritually and intellectually.

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And so we have to find our tribe.

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Even if we had one or two in our tribe that we felt bonded with and connected with in

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these spiritual experiences, we will be okay.

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We can process.

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So it's not any different from an adult or a child.

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And one of the things also that I hear from people who had an experience as a child is

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back then, I just assume this was normal.

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Like everybody has an out of body experience and goes to heaven and comes back and like

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no big deal.

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But then if they tell it to a parent or a teacher that says that basically tells them

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they were crazy and that didn't even happen, now there's a little bit of damage that can

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be done.

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Oh, absolutely.

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When people are having these profound spiritual experiences, what happens is some of the things

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that you're going to see and feel and experience is completely opposite of what this world

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is teaching, the evidence, the tangible evidence that this world is showing you.

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And then on top of that, it's going to be opposite of what religion is also teaching

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you.

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And so at your core of who you are, you know this is true.

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And then when somebody like a teacher or a confidant or a parent or a minister is saying

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no because they can't relate and they believe they're right, then you now question everything

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at the core of what you know to be true.

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So let me just interject.

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You said this is going to be, you're going to learn things at the opposite of religion.

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Aren't there some things that are harmonious?

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You know, the fact that there is a God in an afterlife, things like that.

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Oh, absolutely.

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But think about the definition, okay, because the majority of, if you talk to a Christian,

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they'll say, I'm a God-fearing man.

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I'm waiting for the Lord's will.

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I'm waiting upon the Lord.

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I'm servant.

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I'm obedient to God.

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You know, words like that, okay, for instance, or God is judging.

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He knows every sin, every goodness, every bad thing you've ever thought, even just language

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like that, and then you go and experience God, it's going to be completely opposite

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because you're going to feel the most neutral, loving energy that is contradicting to that

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definition of God that the world is teaching.

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That's the problem.

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But I also want to say this, depending on what your belief system is, what you've been

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taught, you will experience a level of that so that your brain doesn't go on overload.

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So for instance, if I believe that God is on a golden throne and there's all these angels

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and what heaven kind of looks like, my NDE might start there, this white light, and I

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see God on a throne.

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So because my brain has to be able to conceive what's happening.

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And then all of a sudden, once I'm there and I understand what's happening, I'm connected,

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God might come off that throne and have a one-on-one experience with me.

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But you couldn't start with that one-on-one experience because your brain needed to say

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this is where I'm at first.

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This is what it looks like for me.

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This is what it would feel like.

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And then once you're there, He'll take you to a different level.

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And then that's when you feel all the stuff.

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That's when you can see other themes.

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But all of that is going to change your definition of what God is and what the world is teaching

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that God is because of the feelings you're getting, which is non-judgmental, which is

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very neutral.

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He's not a guru that needs to be praised and worshiped.

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He's so relatable with you.

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It's almost like you guys are partners in such this knowing of a relationship.

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And that's very casual and very neutral, which is a hard thing to comprehend.

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And it's a hard thing to explain to other people.

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Okay.

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I have a couple more questions.

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This one I think you've touched on just a little bit already.

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But I want to ask it in a different way, and that is for someone who has not had a near-death

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experience but thinks, oh, that would be so cool.

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I need to have that.

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I need those gifts.

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But they may not have that opportunity anytime soon.

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What do you say to them?

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You know, this is a dangerous game.

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I have a lot of clients who have said to me recently that they wish or they've been praying

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for a near-death experience so that they could have these similar experiences.

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And I also see a huge influx of people that are going to do DMT, ayahuasca, shrooms, microdosing,

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which means that people are desperate for a spiritual connection.

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And what I want to say is that an NDE or an ayahuasca journey is not going to make you

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interpret.

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It's not going to make you understand.

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It's not going to establish that spiritual connection because you can't just go do ayahuasca

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for eight hours in a village somewhere with some shaman and think that you've established

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connection or that your brain's going to be able to have the capacity to understand what

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you saw and what you experienced, just like an NDE.

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They can't process it.

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They don't understand.

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They can't explain everything.

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So what the real moral of the story is, is that people need to learn.

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This is a muscle.

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And if I go to the gym and I've never worked out before, I need to learn good form.

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I need to learn how my muscles work.

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I need to learn the way that each muscle group and what exercises.

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I need to eat right.

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I need to train.

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I need to dedicate to this.

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And my muscles will grow and develop.

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They'll become tone and strong.

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So this is the way that people need to be looking at the spiritual connection that they're

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so desperately seeking.

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And what's also interesting about that is that it's always evolving, meaning we should

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be looking for upgrades in our religious beliefs, our communication with God, our definition

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of God, because you're always going to start out on the lowest level.

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And that level sometimes you think is all enough.

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And then one day your prayers, your scripture, your church isn't cutting it anymore.

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It's not feeding you anymore.

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And because you're taught to be complacent, you're taught to be humble, to stick it out,

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you know, all those things, people get kind of stuck there because it once worked for

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them.

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It once was true.

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But you have to look for those cues when you're no longer spiritually growing or being fed.

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And so that's when you keep seeking and you go to a different level and you keep going

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and going and going.

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Now I can teach someone how to get there in four days.

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Absolutely, I can.

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Four weeks.

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Absolutely.

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As much time as you'll give me, I will give it to you as fast as possible.

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Because where that came to be for me is when I had my first face to face encounter with

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what we call God and what we call Christ, two separate beings.

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Everything about me would do anything to get it back.

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Anything.

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I was almost addicted to it.

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I wanted anything I could do to feel that presence, to feel that energy, to see that

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knowledge for my mind to be in awe again.

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To have 100% confidence in myself was the most profound thing.

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To have that neutral energy with God was profound.

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And so I kept trying to duplicate it.

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So I can totally understand why an NDE is just wishing and wanting to have a similar

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experience and people who have never had it are doing the desperate measures because I

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was there too.

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I kept demanding, I kept trying to duplicate.

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Was it my positioning?

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Was it this?

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Was it the words I said?

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I mean, anything to try to get it on demand.

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And so I was seeking, seeking.

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I was going into the woods.

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I was fasting and praying by myself, camping in high mountains, almost demanding of God

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to show me more, to get me more, to interpret these things.

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Let me have this another experience.

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Why are you giving me this one time and then you're not going to give it to me again?

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It's almost like dangling a carrot in front of my face and saying, haha, don't you wish

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you could have that again?

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But you won't.

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And so this anger starts to drive in you because you don't understand but you want more.

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This is a powerful place to be.

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And people often feel almost, gee, almost a mourning.

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Like I felt this amazing love and now it's gone and I miss that so horribly.

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And that's not easy to deal with either.

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It is.

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It's a loss and a longing.

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And most people, and again, it goes back to the humbleness, you know, like we don't know

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God's will, you know, we don't know why God takes lives.

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We don't know this.

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And it's because people don't have answers.

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So it's a justification.

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So you are trained to kind of give up when you can't get the answers to wait upon the

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Lord.

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It'll be revealed to you.

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Just be patient.

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But what I want to say is in that moment of longing, when you start to feel the anger

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of the loss, that is a moment that can propel you forward.

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It's an energy and a frequency where you can seek more if you don't give up.

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So I finally had it out with God about this.

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And I'm a brat with God, just so you know.

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I'm never complacent.

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I'm always kind of demanding.

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I'm very direct.

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And when I'm angry, I let it be known.

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And so for me personally, the most revelation I've ever received was when I have it out.

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When I have it out, when I'm yelling, I'm demanding, I'm questioning everything.

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That's when profound channels can actually open up, because your frequency, your intention,

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your momentum in that energy of your frequency is propelling you to receive.

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After I had these experiences, I want to be clear, I was able to continue to hear God

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audibly.

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But I couldn't demand or duplicate having the face-to-face encounter.

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That's where I was frustrated.

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So yes, I should be lucky and count my blessings that I could still have audible connection.

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Sure.

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But I wasn't, because I'm a brat.

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I wanted more.

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So I'm having it out with God and audibly, he says to me, Robin, a lot of people feel

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this way.

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A lot of people.

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A lot of people are asking and seeking the exact same thing.

466
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I'm going to teach you some spiritual protocols and you're going to create the spiritual awakening

467
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,000
class.

468
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,640
I'm going to show you how to increase your levels of DMT in the brain and we're going

469
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,280
to experiment.

470
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,040
And so that's kind of where it all came to be.

471
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:16,200
I did like three experiment trials with a bunch of people to see if it was legit, because

472
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,680
I'm a brat and I test God all the time.

473
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,720
And the scriptures tell you, you should, you know.

474
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,400
Well, yeah, is that really a test of God or a test of our own faith?

475
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:33,320
Well, it's both because you're trying to discern that I'm not being deceived.

476
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:39,040
And when you think like when the world is telling you, A, that's not God or, you know,

477
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:45,080
I didn't interpret it correctly or the minister or the prophet or the apostles have more revelation

478
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,560
than me, then I have to test God.

479
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:55,060
And in testing God, I'm testing my own discernment, my own spiritual connection.

480
00:29:55,060 --> 00:29:58,640
And this is the dangerous ground that we're taught not to do.

481
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:04,000
But for our own survival with having these NDEs and having these spiritual experiences,

482
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,360
these outer body experiences, we have to do that.

483
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,920
But this world is teaching you not to.

484
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:16,240
So questioning, you know, even what he's saying to me, I was still wondering in my own self

485
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,680
doubt, my human doubt that maybe I was making all this up.

486
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,560
Maybe I didn't really even have this experience.

487
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,800
So I had to push that boundary of what my definition of God was, because now it was

488
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:35,160
so different from what me as a gospel teacher, I was a gospel teacher for 15 years.

489
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:41,720
And having an experience face to face with God in two minutes, just in two seconds, everything

490
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,620
I'd been teaching and everything I thought I knew about God had changed.

491
00:30:45,620 --> 00:30:47,560
So yeah, I had to test God.

492
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,560
Absolutely.

493
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:54,240
Well, and I think when we do that, whether you call it testing God or testing ourselves

494
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,800
or whatever we want to call that, I think one of the reasons it works so well is because

495
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:05,160
our mind is now open, because we are saying teach me versus I know everything, I'm prideful

496
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,120
and shut down.

497
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,760
We're in a place to be teachable.

498
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:17,080
But there's one thing to be taught, because I can show someone something, right?

499
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:23,360
But if they don't know how to trust what I'm saying to them is true, if they don't know

500
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,140
how to discern, then there becomes a bigger issue.

501
00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:35,160
And if God is showing us something, no matter how big of a truth it is, we have to learn

502
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,480
it's not just him teaching us something, it's us learning of the confirmations that it's

503
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440
true that this is actually God, I'm not being deceived.

504
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,200
That's the biggest, the biggest hang up for people.

505
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,280
Yeah, that's a very good point.

506
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,240
Okay, let's go in a little bit different direction.

507
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,360
I may need you to speculate just a little bit, but it does feel like there is sort of

508
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,320
a spiritual awakening going on around the world.

509
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:07,360
We have people in over 70 countries listening to this podcast, for example, and you mentioned

510
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:13,680
people, you know, doing mushrooms or, gee, I read Steve Jobs biography a little while

511
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:19,880
ago, and he said, everybody should do LSD once in their life to have the spiritual awakening.

512
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,720
We're not condoning that what the question is, why do you think this is going on?

513
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,720
And what's happening?

514
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,920
Well, I think first, it's become trendy.

515
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,080
And when more people are speaking about it, and plus we have more, you know, social media

516
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,640
platforms and podcasts talking about it.

517
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,040
I mean, Joe Rogan is one of the number one podcasts.

518
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,560
He's amazing, but he talks about it a lot.

519
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,240
So you're hearing it.

520
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,040
And they're talking about these profound experiences.

521
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:55,240
Now I, you know, I'm not going to preach that those things are bad.

522
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:04,280
But what I will say this is that every single person that I've helped in those experiences

523
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:11,800
afterwards during whatever, what I want to say is that they are so far out there that

524
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:19,320
they have reached a level of sight or an experience, but it never established the connection that

525
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,840
they were seeking.

526
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,160
So it's really about what is your intentions?

527
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,160
What's your intentions?

528
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,000
Do you want to just have this amazing experience, just like going on a vacation, and then you

529
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,320
come home and you go back to your normal life?

530
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,200
Then sure, I can understand that.

531
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,640
But if your intention was, I want to know what's beyond this world, I want to know what's

532
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,920
beyond this dimension.

533
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,840
I want to know truth.

534
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:47,800
I want to feel if God is real and the connection that God has to all things.

535
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,760
That's a different intention.

536
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:55,360
And you're not going to get that from ayahuasca, DMT, shrooms, you might get a feeling, but

537
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,680
it's just like going on a vacation and then you come home and you go back to your normal

538
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,840
life.

539
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,840
So what's the intention?

540
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,520
Are you looking for something that's life altering that is now a part of your practice,

541
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:13,000
a part of your memory, a part of your programming, a part of your now way of life?

542
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,520
Then there's better ways of doing that.

543
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,200
So let's just say I reach a level of enlightenment.

544
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,720
I had this profound experience.

545
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:27,600
I saw God, I saw the heavens, I saw the eternities, and then I got to go back to my normal life.

546
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,600
But I'm in this enlightenment now.

547
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,920
Okay, great.

548
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,360
Now you're alone.

549
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,120
What does that serve?

550
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,000
You want to stay in your meditation and in your spiritual awakening and your enlightenment?

551
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,560
Well, nobody can relate to that.

552
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,560
You're now alone.

553
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,080
Your friends don't want to talk to you about it because it's too woo woo.

554
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,980
So what did that do for you?

555
00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:54,560
How are you serving yourself, your family or the world in any capacity when nobody can

556
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,960
relate to you or want to talk to you about this?

557
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,760
Because the things you're saying sounds cool.

558
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,800
And that's what people like when they do these mushrooms and they do all this meditation

559
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,520
to get really woo woo far out there, but they're not grounded.

560
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,000
And they want to stay in that energy.

561
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,920
But it's like, what did that do for you?

562
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,280
So again, it has to be all integrated.

563
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,360
We live in this world.

564
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,960
And this world is not up there in those higher dimensions.

565
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,560
So you have to take that knowledge of what you got in higher dimensions, what you got

566
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,000
with God, which is a higher dimension, and then be able to live in the world.

567
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000
Does that make sense?

568
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,280
And most people can't.

569
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,720
Yeah, it's something that we need to learn how to do.

570
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,760
And it's something that we just, you know, it's going to happen to us whether we figure

571
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,000
out a good way to do it or not.

572
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,960
Okay, let's take an even bigger shift now.

573
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,320
Okay, you promised we could talk about this.

574
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,320
Let's talk science.

575
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,680
Oh, I love science.

576
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Okay.

577
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,160
I've had multiple people that have been on this show talk about when they were in the

578
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:03,280
spirit world, they learned quantum physics from start to finish.

579
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,440
They understood the universe and vibrations and all of these things.

580
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,920
And when they came back, they knew that they had learned it, they couldn't really remember

581
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,920
it.

582
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,680
Now they may have picked up a book on the topic and learned it quickly again.

583
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:24,480
How does quantum physics, the quantum field, the quantum realm, I don't know, use your

584
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,920
terminology.

585
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,080
How does that fit into all of this?

586
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,040
And what the heck is it?

587
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,600
I always say quantum physics, it's for smart people to know how God does it.

588
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,320
Okay, I want to know that.

589
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,560
Okay, I don't know if I'm smart, but I want to know that.

590
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:48,040
Well, people who are very analytical, engineers, people who have a little bit of autism, who

591
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,200
are very brilliant in their minds, don't under, because the things of religion that they're

592
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,880
teaching about God doesn't make sense to them, the order of how things are taking place.

593
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,800
So that's why we say like quantum physics is a way for really brilliant people to know

594
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,200
that God is real and how he does it.

595
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,200
Okay.

596
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,200
Or they do it.

597
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,240
So I'll explain it like this.

598
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:09,240
Okay.

599
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:14,680
Let's just say that the quantum realm or the quantum field is what Christians call God's

600
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,680
eye.

601
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,720
Everything exists, all the knowledge.

602
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,040
He knows everything.

603
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,320
It's the knowing.

604
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,320
Okay.

605
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,440
Now, in that realm, we'll call it the quantum realm, everything is floating around like

606
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,920
wave particles.

607
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,600
That's what they are, they're wave particles.

608
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,760
Everything's a wave.

609
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:37,120
And in that, it's what the scriptures call matter, matter unorganized.

610
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,120
Okay.

611
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:44,280
So when, let's just say I'm trying to manifest something, like I want a new truck.

612
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,560
I want that truck to look a certain way.

613
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,560
I'm thinking about it.

614
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,120
I'm like, Oh, I really want that new Bronco that just came out.

615
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,120
Okay.

616
00:37:52,120 --> 00:38:00,720
So in the quantum field, if I hold that thought for 16 to 18 seconds, that's the key 16 to

617
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:05,400
18 seconds, those wave particles start to wave around even more.

618
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,900
Their momentum speeds up.

619
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:10,080
And so they start to vibrate.

620
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:17,180
And then other wave particles that are in that same alignment will now join the momentum.

621
00:38:17,180 --> 00:38:21,120
Now some wave particles don't align to that new truck.

622
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,960
And they're not even in that frequency.

623
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,360
So they'll bounce off.

624
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,240
So now let's just say you've got a million wave particles vibrating so fastly together,

625
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:33,280
because you've been holding on to that thought for 16 to 18 seconds.

626
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,800
What happens is they wave so much that they recalibrate each other and they become a solid.

627
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,060
So wave particle now just became a solid.

628
00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:47,680
Now what happens when it creates a solid is you just now planted a seed in the quantum

629
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,200
field.

630
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,880
You just planted a seed in the all knowing of God.

631
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,440
Now what happens when you plant a seed in this world?

632
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Say I'm planting a flower and I plant a seed.

633
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,640
What do you do?

634
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,640
You water it.

635
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,480
You make sure it has sunlight, right?

636
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,480
You nurture it.

637
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,040
Good soil, nurture it.

638
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Yep.

639
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,040
Right.

640
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,800
So the way that you water and plant and nurture a seed in the quantum field is you do it

641
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,800
again tomorrow.

642
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,800
16, 18 seconds.

643
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,640
You ponder about it.

644
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,020
You get even more description.

645
00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:25,560
Now the way to speed up that planting of the seed is you can amplify it with prayer with

646
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,400
God, your heavenly family, your spirit guides, because they're of supernatural power.

647
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,600
They're an amplification to this.

648
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Okay.

649
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,600
So they can speed up the process.

650
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,120
It's kind of like giving it even more sunlight with no storms.

651
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,120
Okay.

652
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,320
So now the seed starts to sprout, starting to grow.

653
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,300
And when it sprouts, this is string theory.

654
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:52,720
So it sprouts from the seed, the solid goes wave particles solid seed gets planted.

655
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:53,720
Now it's frowning.

656
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:58,480
It's frowning from the quantum field into the physical dimension.

657
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,640
When it gets into the physical dimension, that's when you see it.

658
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,480
So people are getting really caught up in like the word manifesting, but they don't

659
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,900
know how manifesting actually works.

660
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,120
And this is the science behind that.

661
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,520
Now that is how you can manifest things in the quantum field.

662
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,360
This is just quantum physics.

663
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,720
They can see this underneath a microscope so that you can understand.

664
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:23,380
But this is the basic way.

665
00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:27,680
It's the same thing with the scriptures talking about matter unorganized when this world,

666
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,560
this earth was being created.

667
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,560
Okay.

668
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,800
It all started with the thoughts.

669
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,120
Then it went to spiritual energetic.

670
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,320
In the words verbally, then it went to the physical.

671
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,820
That was the process from quantum field to the physical manifestation of it.

672
00:40:43,820 --> 00:40:48,000
Another way of, I want to talk about quantum entanglement.

673
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:55,400
If Robin sits next to Sally for more than 20 minutes, our energetic fields are going

674
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,520
to do the exact same thing those wave particles did.

675
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,080
We're going to start to vibrate because she's a little bit different than me.

676
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,980
So it's recalibrating my energetic field and I'm recalibrating hers.

677
00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:10,720
This is why you become who you hang out with.

678
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:14,680
This is why if your friends are broke, you're broke.

679
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,880
You're not that much above them.

680
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,920
If you want to be a millionaire, you hang out with millionaires.

681
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,440
You hear stuff like that all the time, but they don't know why.

682
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,440
Okay.

683
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,800
They think it's mindset, but it's not.

684
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,160
It's quantum entanglement.

685
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:32,680
So if I sit next to Sally for 20 minutes, my vibration starts to vibrate so much and

686
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,140
hers does too, that we start to spin around each other in the quantum field.

687
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:40,720
And then we recalibrate each other.

688
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,080
So once it's recalibrated, we stop spinning.

689
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,640
She got a part of me and I got a part of her.

690
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,560
This is also why all things are connected because we're constantly recalibrating each

691
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,560
other.

692
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:57,680
Anytime we get introduced to a new quantum or an energetic field or spirit or anything,

693
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,640
it's going to recalibrate us and we're going to recalibrate it.

694
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,800
It becomes a part of me.

695
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,200
I become a part of it.

696
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,800
That's quantum entanglement.

697
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,400
That's how women's menstrual cycles get aligned.

698
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,440
If anybody has a wife and daughters, especially if they have more than one daughter, it can

699
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,120
be real tough in the household during a menstrual cycle because they're all in the same cycle.

700
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,120
I have four daughters.

701
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,640
I remember those years.

702
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,800
Yes.

703
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,960
And if you're a coach or something and you have a female team, you're like, oh my goodness,

704
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,020
how could this be?

705
00:42:28,020 --> 00:42:31,760
How could they all be on the same cycle at the same time?

706
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,560
Everybody's PMSing at the same time.

707
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,720
And it's because of this.

708
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:39,000
It's a pheromone, but it's also a quantum entanglement.

709
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,080
That's why they're aligning to each other.

710
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,140
So let me ask this question.

711
00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:46,320
We're getting away from the cycles here, if you don't mind.

712
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:52,120
But the quantum entanglement, as I'm trying to understand it, the person next to us, that

713
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:57,200
person and I are sort of recalibrating to each other.

714
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:06,760
Now, what if I want to go to the state prison and spend some time with people that are incarcerated

715
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,020
to help them to lift their spirits, whatever?

716
00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:12,960
Does that mean I'm also being drugged down to their level?

717
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,320
Well, let's not use the language drug down.

718
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,520
Okay.

719
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,080
Because that would be a judgment that you're placing that they're in a worse place than

720
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,080
you.

721
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:28,080
They really could be further along in this spiritual exaltation than you are.

722
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:35,040
So but yes, to answer your question bluntly, you will be recalibrating them and they will

723
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,680
be recalibrating you.

724
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:42,080
That doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing because everything is all connected.

725
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:48,140
If we're all connected through energetic cells, and my brother who's in prison is one of our

726
00:43:48,140 --> 00:43:50,040
weakest links in the human race.

727
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,200
Let's just look at it that way.

728
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:58,100
Okay, if he's our weakest link, I can never rise to my full potential if he doesn't.

729
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:03,960
So if he if I can even raise him to levels, then I can go to levels.

730
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:09,760
And I need to be able to recalibrate him to recalibrate me.

731
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:15,480
And also on a mental level, I need to understand where they're at.

732
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:20,480
How did they get here so that I can understand and have neutral energy, which is really Christ

733
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:27,080
energy or God energy is that neutral energy, and how this happened, so I can relate.

734
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,480
So that's a very beautiful thing.

735
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,360
It doesn't mean that they have to pull you down and drain your energy.

736
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:39,040
Now that does happen for people, because they don't know how to a process that they'll take

737
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,280
on the burdens of others, and then they'll feel like garbage.

738
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,300
They'll fall down.

739
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:46,580
And then they'll avoid things like that.

740
00:44:46,580 --> 00:44:53,200
But I also want to mention going back to why so many NDEs have divorce is because they

741
00:44:53,200 --> 00:45:00,360
just got really high calibrated with a spiritual experience, God energy, higher dimensions.

742
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,600
And then they come back down and then they're talking to their spouse and their spouse is

743
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,280
recalibrating them.

744
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,800
And they're like, No, I can't do this.

745
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,480
I can't go back.

746
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,360
And then they go on this journey of seeking somebody that will be alignment to them.

747
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:20,640
So this whole thing of needing to recalibrate if we feel drug down being around the presence

748
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,640
of someone at this, how did you call it lower calibration?

749
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,720
Let me just use an example.

750
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:34,140
You tell me your thoughts on this that I read recently in the Bible.

751
00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:39,840
So Jesus is criticized for being around sinners.

752
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,080
But he spends time with sinners.

753
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,360
He spends time with people that are sick, healing them.

754
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,760
And then if you notice, there's kind of a pattern after he did a bunch of this, he would

755
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:58,200
then go by himself up into the mountains for a few days or a few hours anyway.

756
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:03,200
Was he doing that to recalibrate himself back to the higher level that he's comfortable

757
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,200
at?

758
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,720
Yeah, he was filling up his cup.

759
00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:06,720
Yeah.

760
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:10,520
And so maybe that's a good example of what we should be doing.

761
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,840
We shouldn't be avoiding.

762
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:18,800
And when I use the prison example, I'm sorry if that was harmful to some people.

763
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:25,560
But I just wanted an extreme example of let's say there's this horrible axe murderer and

764
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,440
I want to try to do something good and go lift him up.

765
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,200
But then afterwards, I may feel like I need to go spend some time lifting myself back

766
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,200
up.

767
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,200
Absolutely.

768
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,280
Absolutely.

769
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,760
And I want to give some examples of that.

770
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,760
Okay.

771
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,760
Yes.

772
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,560
The way that we can do that is instead of trying to manipulate, there's a different

773
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,320
forms of manipulation.

774
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,360
There's good manipulation and bad manipulation.

775
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,760
Okay, I'll give an example of good manipulation.

776
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:01,780
Let's say I'm a church member and somebody in my congregation is ill and sick.

777
00:47:01,780 --> 00:47:04,880
And they're like, hey, this person could really use some meals brought in.

778
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,160
And I'm the first to jump on it.

779
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:12,640
And I have this, let's just say a 30 40% subconscious belief.

780
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,520
Well, I'm going to prepare this amazing meal, people are going to know how righteous I am.

781
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,200
She's going to think I'm a great cook.

782
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,740
And people like, oh, Robin brought in meals for her.

783
00:47:21,740 --> 00:47:23,660
So I'm getting an ego boost.

784
00:47:23,660 --> 00:47:25,760
That's a good form of manipulation.

785
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,200
You don't have bad intentions, but you have a little bit of manipulation.

786
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,200
Okay.

787
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:37,640
Same thing if I go to a prison and I think that they're in a mind space where it's not

788
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,000
very conducive to their potential.

789
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,440
Okay.

790
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,880
And I'm trying to manipulate them to, to think the way that I think that would be a form

791
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,240
of manipulation because I want them to be better, do better, feel better.

792
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:53,240
Okay.

793
00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:59,320
Now, the better way and then you go and you experience that and a the person in the would

794
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,880
that brought the meals can now get sick.

795
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,200
The one who goes to the prison might feel drawn or dragged down.

796
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,480
Okay.

797
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:14,600
Now what you want to do is instead of that manipulation and taking it on the sickness,

798
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:19,760
taking on the low vibration, the sadness, the defeat, because what's happening is you're

799
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,240
weakening them energetically.

800
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,360
You're saying, Hey, I know you're sick.

801
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,560
I know you're not, you're not capable of providing for yourself.

802
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,920
I'm going to do this for you.

803
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,080
You go to a prison and you're saying, Hey, I know you're not capable.

804
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,060
You have, you grew up in a horrible environment.

805
00:48:35,060 --> 00:48:37,060
You're not strong enough or wise enough.

806
00:48:37,060 --> 00:48:38,680
So I'm going to do this for you.

807
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:44,840
And I'm going to take upon some of this energy for you, which is a very lovely thing to do.

808
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,640
That's a very lovely characteristic, but it weakens them.

809
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,280
So instead of taking on that energy, cause it also weakens you, what you want to do is

810
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,120
call upon everything you would want for them.

811
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:02,640
So for instance, if I was in that prison, I could see someone struggling mentally, physically,

812
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,760
spiritually.

813
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,840
What I'm going to do is call upon everything that I want them to have, everything I wish

814
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,240
somebody would have done for me in that situation.

815
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:16,760
I'm going to bless them with understanding, clarity, revelation, spiritual connection,

816
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:25,000
health, beauty, compassion, growth, motivation, the diligence to push it through that they

817
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,800
can overcome, that they can be everything that they ever were capable of being, that

818
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,800
they can reach that.

819
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:37,200
Do you see the difference from that versus me taking on their doom and gloom?

820
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,840
Yeah, absolutely.

821
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,720
So that will recalibrate me and them.

822
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:43,820
And you can do this in your mind.

823
00:49:43,820 --> 00:49:45,620
You can do this in your prayer.

824
00:49:45,620 --> 00:49:51,320
You can ask God to do this instead of taking on the woe is me.

825
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,680
Woe is me for them.

826
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,560
I feel so bad for them.

827
00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:01,080
When you are feeling bad for someone, that is never a good thing because you're taking

828
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:06,640
power away from what you really want them to have and what they're wanting to experience.

829
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:13,200
Yeah, and that's not an easy distinction to make because we want to feel empathy.

830
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,120
And empathy and feeling sorry for someone can go very hand in hand.

831
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:22,920
And yes, I think we need to draw that line to keep everything moving upwards.

832
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,720
Yes.

833
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:31,040
And so, if I had an NDE and I could no longer relate, or my husband could no longer relate

834
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:39,680
to me, instead of being frustrated and being recalibrated in that, I would then call upon

835
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,840
what I would want to happen.

836
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,440
I want him to have his own spiritual experiences.

837
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:49,560
And I'm talking about this, that his mind and his imagination will tap into what I'm

838
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,240
saying, that he can see it in his mind.

839
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:57,920
I'll ask that he has his own revelation that will have profited dreams to get confirmation

840
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,400
of the things that I'm saying.

841
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:06,320
So that is a very different conversation than just being defeated and giving up.

842
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,340
So I think what you're saying is to use numbers.

843
00:51:09,340 --> 00:51:16,120
If I were a number five and this other person were a number three, and we got together,

844
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,080
we don't have to both end up being a number four.

845
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:26,880
But I can be a five or even a six and raise that person to a four or five along with me.

846
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,360
Absolutely.

847
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,080
And when people use those, like they'll say, well, I'm empathic, I'm an empath, which is

848
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,520
a spiritual gift, right?

849
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,680
I feel everybody's energy and I can't even go to the grocery store.

850
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,840
I can't watch the news because it just makes me feel horrible.

851
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:47,840
So what they're doing is allowing themselves to take it upon themselves and not stay high.

852
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:53,880
The way that happens is they're judging it instead of taking it on, seeing what can be

853
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,880
recalibrated.

854
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:01,140
They're taking all those feelings, the information, and then they're judging it like this is bad.

855
00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:02,140
This is sinful.

856
00:52:02,140 --> 00:52:03,140
This is dark.

857
00:52:03,140 --> 00:52:04,140
This is evil.

858
00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:05,340
This is wrong.

859
00:52:05,340 --> 00:52:10,200
And when we start to place labels on things like that, we cannot recalibrate ourselves

860
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,120
and stay high.

861
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:18,540
This is also why Christ hung out with all those people.

862
00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:22,320
Because he was never really preaching to them, if you notice, he wasn't trying to correct

863
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,320
them.

864
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,440
He was accepting them as they were.

865
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,780
Now some people didn't want to be healed and he didn't heal them.

866
00:52:28,780 --> 00:52:31,640
Some people didn't want to be corrected, so he didn't correct them.

867
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,720
Now if they asked them directly, if they came to him and said, you know, heal me, he offered

868
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:37,720
it.

869
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:41,480
That's that good manipulation, bad manipulation.

870
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,180
And so he never manipulated.

871
00:52:44,180 --> 00:52:45,860
And I love that about him.

872
00:52:45,860 --> 00:52:51,200
And he wasn't looking at them with judgment, label, the way that I was just saying.

873
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,780
So that's why it wasn't affecting him so much.

874
00:52:54,780 --> 00:52:59,460
And so he would go and recalibrate when he needed to fill up his cup, but also get revelation

875
00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:01,560
on what's next.

876
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,500
We are running out of time here, Robin.

877
00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:05,480
It has been such a pleasure.

878
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:11,760
Could you put a brief bow on this whole thing and leave our listeners with some kind of

879
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,840
a message that's going to uplift them today?

880
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,300
Absolutely.

881
00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:22,460
One of the things that I wish that the world knew is that we are never alone.

882
00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:30,700
Very rarely are we even in one room alone in your own house, in your office, in a store.

883
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:35,920
There are so many things that are above this world, beyond your knowledge, your capacity

884
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:42,140
to understand, that are supernatural, that are divine in nature, there to assist you

885
00:53:42,140 --> 00:53:43,780
at all times.

886
00:53:43,780 --> 00:53:46,940
But they never overwhelm you or manipulate you.

887
00:53:46,940 --> 00:53:48,800
They don't force help on you.

888
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,560
They do not force knowledge.

889
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,860
They don't even force love upon you.

890
00:53:53,860 --> 00:54:00,320
The right spirit is always waiting for the invitation because they're not manipulators.

891
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,520
And so all you have to do is invoke and ask, and they're right there to give it to you.

892
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,040
And they are in the same delegation with God.

893
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,720
God gives certain delegation powers to your loved ones that have passed, to supernatural

894
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:15,960
things like angels and messengers.

895
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,160
They're all on the same team.

896
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:25,460
And so all you have to do is inquire of this, experiment, ask more questions, seek it out.

897
00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:31,320
There is nothing special about me or somebody who has an NDE or has an experience with Christ

898
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,200
or something supernatural.

899
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:38,480
It is entitled to everybody, but not everybody has the tools or their school set, or they

900
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,400
don't believe that they can or they're worthy.

901
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,080
But I'm telling you, everybody is capable of this.

902
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,920
Everybody is capable of spiritual gifts, to receive revelation, to have prophecy, to have

903
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:54,440
dreams and visions, especially if it's about them or their families.

904
00:54:54,440 --> 00:55:00,520
So experiment with this, seek more, have more verbal, out loud conversations with God or

905
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:07,000
your spirit guides or angels, whatever it is that you believe in, just start there,

906
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,400
ask different questions, be a seeker, and you will have some profound experiences if

907
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:18,560
you just keep at it, especially if it's for 16 to 18 seconds, planting that seed, nurturing

908
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,680
it every single day.

909
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:25,960
And I promise you, you will have some spiritual experiences, especially if you've had an NDE

910
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,960
and you want confirmation, start inquiring of it, asking for more.

911
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,040
Rob, and thank you for your insights.

912
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,480
I know I've learned something today.

913
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,480
I'm sure we all have.

914
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,480
Well, thank you.

915
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,960
It's been such a pleasure.

916
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:42,080
I think you aligning and sharing the stories have a ripple effect for many people, and

917
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:49,880
I'm sure they are the utmost gratitude for you for doing so.

918
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,880
If you have had a round trip death experience, we would love to hear about it.

919
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,560
Send an email to eric at roundtripdeath.com.

920
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,900
And lastly, if you have found this program uplifting, if it's given you just a little

921
00:56:01,900 --> 00:56:07,100
more hope in the future, share it with a friend, hit that follow button and take a few seconds

922
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:08,880
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923
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,640
Until next time, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and

924
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:23,880
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